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00:00:39,290\n我們更期待的是把我們的特色跟精神要在世博的展場當中凸顯我想這個更重要所以我們在展場的佈置當中我們不能把我們自己的精神跟特色然後還有文化把它\n\n3\n00:00:40,393 --> 00:00:57,244\n放棄我覺得這個部分是很重要的其實我覺得名字雖然重要但是我們的價值我們的精神我們的文化跟我們的產業更為重要所以這個部分要拜託部長這也是我們希望透過各種\n\n4\n00:00:58,004 --> 00:01:23,694\n管道能夠把台灣的量能能夠展現出去那我們也知道現在我們遇到是一個派出兵不斷的用各種方式在打壓我們可是我們不能這樣就停止不前了我們更是要利用各種方式然後把台灣的特色精神文化產業很直接的呈現出來那透過設計\n\n5\n00:01:25,834 --> 00:01:39,185\n我們的特色透過設計其實會展現不一樣的風貌所以這個部分再拜託部長是報告委員我想世博是國際合作跟這個文化交流的重要平台\n\n6\n00:01:40,066 --> 00:01:53,523\n那我們用這個TechWorld館除了向全球觀眾展示我國的科技創新實力也將豐富文化與生命活力爭取更多合作的機會謝謝委員剛才的這個勉勵所以厚色比什麼更重要\n\n7\n00:01:58,008 --> 00:02:11,582\n當我們有特色大家的目光焦點全部在我們身上的時候我們得到更多的交流機會這才是重要讓他用各種不同的方式看到我們台灣這個國家的軟實力\n\n8\n00:02:14,264 --> 00:02:43,531\n我相信這才是我們花了這20億很重要的關鍵所以我想我們必須體認我們遇到一個派出品可是我們不能停滯不前我們更應該往前走把台灣更不一樣的聲音與特色展現出來透過各種平台的交流所以再拜託部長我們希望給我們的紅人更多的鼓勵那場館的時間還有場館的特色我相信我們都要把它掌控住\n\n9\n00:02:44,112 --> 00:02:51,793\n再拜託部長部長在另外一個部分就是說我們一直圍繞在你身上的\n\n10\n00:02:52,714 --> 00:03:17,479\n尤其最近就是因為這個台積電赴美投資到底經濟部事前有沒有掌握光這個議題就連炒了好幾天部長我覺得你不可能沒有掌握啦我覺得從國安從經濟議題我們一定都要在每一個環節都掌握住可是可能有些時間點你\n\n11\n00:03:19,139 --> 00:03:44,050\n不應該也不能夠在第一時間做一個很清楚的看法跟對外的說明所以而被誤解了所以既然今天台積電赴美投資這已經很確定了我讓你一個時間你跟我們說一下到底你清不清楚這整個台積電的赴美投資案的狀況\n\n12\n00:03:45,046 --> 00:03:58,925\n報告委員我想謝謝你給我這樣的一個機會能夠在這個地方澄清這一件事情台積電到美國投資這件事情從總統開始以下經濟部我們其實都參與\n\n13\n00:04:00,366 --> 00:04:23,942\n這樣的一個過程那每一個人負擔的這個內容會不一樣經濟部呢當然是知道台積電會去投資那我們把關的地方是在投審會把關的地方在投審會那我想總統跟這個台積電的互動那麼總統我們包括我們的國安包括我們的整個行政院的長官都是一樣都參與這樣的一個討論\n\n14\n00:04:25,843 --> 00:04:52,833\n但是分工分工那经济部做什么事情经济部当然不是只有台积电投资这件事情包括美国的这些关税啊各方面的新政府他们的措施会怎么样所以经济部只扮演一个搜寻这个资讯提供正确的这个资讯给陈锋他们来做最后的判断也给台积电做一个比较完整的这个参考\n\n15\n00:04:54,478 --> 00:05:17,436\n這個大家對我的誤會說你都不知道我怎麼可能不知道我是說那一天我接受訪問的時候那個主持人問我說一千億你知不知道跟委員報告這個是我很多不能說的部分所以我想大家可以諒解這種部分其實坦白講\n\n16\n00:05:19,178 --> 00:05:34,710\n我們去的時候沒有這個數字他大概跟我們應該說大概他要設多少個幾座的晶圓廠還有這個先進的封裝設施或是研發中心他有一個範圍的金額\n\n17\n00:05:37,773 --> 00:05:38,634\n我覺得說因為一句話所以部長以後\n\n18\n00:05:54,375 --> 00:06:23,035\n我們如果說要更精準的回答問題沒錯就是說很清楚說我們知道規模可是金額我們還是要尊重台積電自己的宣布因為我們又不是台積電所以部長這個就是媒體這當中有時候就一句話就會被很多的不一樣的解讀我們就說怎麼可能會不知道而且我們所清楚的在這事前是很多不能講\n\n19\n00:06:24,335 --> 00:06:49,055\n從國安從經濟面那今天因為在這整個台積電的量能對於這個投資對我們台灣的基本面是沒有影響的因為它整個know-how跟研發的關鍵還是在台灣這才是重點所以這當中包括我們的總統包括部長包括各單位都跟台積電非常掌控所有這個訊息是所以\n\n20\n00:06:50,816 --> 00:07:07,632\n我覺得這要說清楚否則會讓我們很多的民眾會有擔憂說台積電這麼嚴重要去美國投資我們不知道不是不知道而是在每一個時間點我們該說的該做的有不一樣的分工\n\n21\n00:07:08,132 --> 00:07:32,141\n而且當台積電畢竟它還是一間上市的公司它很多的一些必須宣布的還是要由它自己來宣布不能是我們政府來宣布所以這個部分還是要很清楚去做很多的一個分頁然後再一個就是說台積電傳說要合資入股Intel這個部分\n\n22\n00:07:33,691 --> 00:07:50,057\n經濟部有掌控嗎還是你認為就像部長所說的你覺得這個訊息其實不是那麼準確報告委員這個新聞如果不是台積電自己發布出來的我們都不予評論\n\n23\n00:07:52,208 --> 00:08:06,804\n這是跟台積電的問題嘛是台積電沒有發布的訊息我們怎麼去評論這個這可能是對很多想到消息或是不一樣的解讀就像一句話會被不一樣解讀所以\n\n24\n00:08:08,346 --> 00:08:29,345\n其實台積電我們在強調它是一個在台灣上市的公司然後在國際間是一個非常重要指標性的一個大廠所以它今天要做任何的所謂的擴展或是有任何的投資基本上是要由它自己來宣布\n\n25\n00:08:29,765 --> 00:08:49,232\n對沒有錯他一定會發重訊像這種事情他一定要發重訊所以他沒有這個確認的事情我想在坊間大家的傳聞經濟部的立場就是不予評論所以部長我們還是認為這個我們不予評論但是有一個重點是我們也要準備好\n\n26\n00:08:49,992 --> 00:09:14,099\n就是說隨時如果萬一他真的對外宣布了我們有沒有準備好了我想那一天我問了相關單位基本上大家其實是準備好的我們都有非常多的simulation很多的基本假設如果這樣子我們怎麼做這樣子做怎麼做我想這麼大的一個公司對國家影響這麼大的一個作為\n\n27\n00:09:16,185 --> 00:09:42,983\n經濟部沒有基本假設沒有提早因應這個是不可能的對所以我覺得這個我們應該講出來讓民眾知道我們政府會因應各種狀況的發生是那我們前提就是不會影響到我們台灣的經濟也不會影響我們整個所謂的半導體或是我們相關產業的一個進步跟成長好這個是很重要謝謝部長謝謝好謝謝\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n4912\t8283\t谢谢赵伟后我们请部长郭部长\n21498\t39290\t我們更期待的是把我們的特色跟精神要在世博的展場當中凸顯我想這個更重要所以我們在展場的佈置當中我們不能把我們自己的精神跟特色然後還有文化把它\n40393\t57244\t放棄我覺得這個部分是很重要的其實我覺得名字雖然重要但是我們的價值我們的精神我們的文化跟我們的產業更為重要所以這個部分要拜託部長這也是我們希望透過各種\n58004\t83694\t管道能夠把台灣的量能能夠展現出去那我們也知道現在我們遇到是一個派出兵不斷的用各種方式在打壓我們可是我們不能這樣就停止不前了我們更是要利用各種方式然後把台灣的特色精神文化產業很直接的呈現出來那透過設計\n85834\t99185\t我們的特色透過設計其實會展現不一樣的風貌所以這個部分再拜託部長是 報告委員我想世博是國際合作跟這個文化交流的重要平台\n100066\t113523\t那我們用這個Tech World館除了向全球觀眾展示我國的科技創新實力也將豐富文化與生命活力爭取更多合作的機會謝謝委員剛才的這個勉勵所以厚色比什麼更重要\n118008\t131582\t當我們有特色大家的目光焦點全部在我們身上的時候我們得到更多的交流機會這才是重要讓他用各種不同的方式看到我們台灣這個國家的軟實力\n134264\t163531\t我相信這才是我們花了這20億很重要的關鍵所以我想我們必須體認我們遇到一個派出品可是我們不能停滯不前我們更應該往前走把台灣更不一樣的聲音與特色展現出來透過各種平台的交流所以再拜託部長我們希望給我們的紅人更多的鼓勵那場館的時間還有場館的特色我相信我們都要把它掌控住\n164112\t171793\t再拜託部長部長在另外一個部分就是說我們一直圍繞在你身上的\n172714\t197479\t尤其最近就是因為這個台積電赴美投資到底經濟部事前有沒有掌握光這個議題就連炒了好幾天部長我覺得你不可能沒有掌握啦我覺得從國安從經濟議題我們一定都要在每一個環節都掌握住可是可能有些時間點你\n199139\t224050\t不應該也不能夠在第一時間做一個很清楚的看法跟對外的說明所以而被誤解了所以既然今天台積電赴美投資這已經很確定了我讓你一個時間你跟我們說一下到底你清不清楚這整個台積電的赴美投資案的狀況\n225046\t238925\t報告委員我想謝謝你給我這樣的一個機會能夠在這個地方澄清這一件事情台積電到美國投資這件事情從總統開始以下經濟部我們其實都參與\n240366\t263942\t這樣的一個過程那每一個人負擔的這個內容會不一樣經濟部呢當然是知道台積電會去投資那我們把關的地方是在投審會把關的地方在投審會那我想總統跟這個台積電的互動那麼總統我們包括我們的國安包括我們的整個行政院的長官都是一樣都參與這樣的一個討論\n265843\t292833\t但是分工分工那经济部做什么事情经济部当然不是只有台积电投资这件事情包括美国的这些关税啊各方面的新政府他们的措施会怎么样所以经济部只扮演一个搜寻这个资讯提供正确的这个资讯给陈锋他们来做最后的判断也给台积电做一个比较完整的这个参考\n294478\t317436\t這個大家對我的誤會說你都不知道我怎麼可能不知道我是說那一天我接受訪問的時候那個主持人問我說一千億你知不知道跟委員報告這個是我很多不能說的部分所以我想大家可以諒解這種部分其實坦白講\n319178\t334710\t我們去的時候沒有這個數字他大概跟我們應該說大概他要設多少個幾座的晶圓廠還有這個先進的封裝設施或是研發中心他有一個範圍的金額\n337773\t338634\t我覺得說因為一句話所以部長以後\n354375\t383035\t我們如果說要更精準的回答問題沒錯就是說很清楚說我們知道規模可是金額我們還是要尊重台積電自己的宣布因為我們又不是台積電所以部長這個就是媒體這當中有時候就一句話就會被很多的不一樣的解讀我們就說怎麼可能會不知道而且我們所清楚的在這事前是很多不能講\n384335\t409055\t從國安從經濟面那今天因為在這整個台積電的量能對於這個投資對我們台灣的基本面是沒有影響的因為它整個know-how跟研發的關鍵還是在台灣這才是重點所以這當中包括我們的總統包括部長包括各單位都跟台積電非常掌控所有這個訊息是所以\n410816\t427632\t我覺得這要說清楚否則會讓我們很多的民眾會有擔憂說台積電這麼嚴重要去美國投資我們不知道不是不知道而是在每一個時間點我們該說的該做的有不一樣的分工\n428132\t452141\t而且當台積電畢竟它還是一間上市的公司它很多的一些必須宣布的還是要由它自己來宣布不能是我們政府來宣布所以這個部分還是要很清楚去做很多的一個分頁然後再一個就是說台積電傳說要合資入股Intel這個部分\n453691\t470057\t經濟部有掌控嗎還是你認為就像部長所說的你覺得這個訊息其實不是那麼準確報告委員這個新聞如果不是台積電自己發布出來的我們都不予評論\n472208\t486804\t這是跟台積電的問題嘛是台積電沒有發布的訊息我們怎麼去評論這個這可能是對很多想到消息或是不一樣的解讀就像一句話會被不一樣解讀所以\n488346\t509345\t其實台積電我們在強調它是一個在台灣上市的公司然後在國際間是一個非常重要指標性的一個大廠所以它今天要做任何的所謂的擴展或是有任何的投資基本上是要由它自己來宣布\n509765\t529232\t對沒有錯他一定會發重訊像這種事情他一定要發重訊所以他沒有這個確認的事情我想在坊間大家的傳聞經濟部的立場就是不予評論所以部長我們還是認為這個我們不予評論但是有一個重點是我們也要準備好\n529992\t554099\t就是說隨時如果萬一他真的對外宣布了我們有沒有準備好了我想那一天我問了相關單位基本上大家其實是準備好的我們都有非常多的simulation很多的基本假設如果這樣子我們怎麼做這樣子做怎麼做我想這麼大的一個公司對國家影響這麼大的一個作為\n556185\t582983\t經濟部沒有基本假設沒有提早因應這個是不可能的對所以我覺得這個我們應該講出來讓民眾知道我們政府會因應各種狀況的發生是那我們前提就是不會影響到我們台灣的經濟也不會影響我們整個所謂的半導體或是我們相關產業的一個進步跟成長好這個是很重要謝謝部長謝謝好謝謝\n","txt":"谢谢赵伟后我们请部长郭部长\n我們更期待的是把我們的特色跟精神要在世博的展場當中凸顯我想這個更重要所以我們在展場的佈置當中我們不能把我們自己的精神跟特色然後還有文化把它\n放棄我覺得這個部分是很重要的其實我覺得名字雖然重要但是我們的價值我們的精神我們的文化跟我們的產業更為重要所以這個部分要拜託部長這也是我們希望透過各種\n管道能夠把台灣的量能能夠展現出去那我們也知道現在我們遇到是一個派出兵不斷的用各種方式在打壓我們可是我們不能這樣就停止不前了我們更是要利用各種方式然後把台灣的特色精神文化產業很直接的呈現出來那透過設計\n我們的特色透過設計其實會展現不一樣的風貌所以這個部分再拜託部長是 報告委員我想世博是國際合作跟這個文化交流的重要平台\n那我們用這個Tech World館除了向全球觀眾展示我國的科技創新實力也將豐富文化與生命活力爭取更多合作的機會謝謝委員剛才的這個勉勵所以厚色比什麼更重要\n當我們有特色大家的目光焦點全部在我們身上的時候我們得到更多的交流機會這才是重要讓他用各種不同的方式看到我們台灣這個國家的軟實力\n我相信這才是我們花了這20億很重要的關鍵所以我想我們必須體認我們遇到一個派出品可是我們不能停滯不前我們更應該往前走把台灣更不一樣的聲音與特色展現出來透過各種平台的交流所以再拜託部長我們希望給我們的紅人更多的鼓勵那場館的時間還有場館的特色我相信我們都要把它掌控住\n再拜託部長部長在另外一個部分就是說我們一直圍繞在你身上的\n尤其最近就是因為這個台積電赴美投資到底經濟部事前有沒有掌握光這個議題就連炒了好幾天部長我覺得你不可能沒有掌握啦我覺得從國安從經濟議題我們一定都要在每一個環節都掌握住可是可能有些時間點你\n不應該也不能夠在第一時間做一個很清楚的看法跟對外的說明所以而被誤解了所以既然今天台積電赴美投資這已經很確定了我讓你一個時間你跟我們說一下到底你清不清楚這整個台積電的赴美投資案的狀況\n報告委員我想謝謝你給我這樣的一個機會能夠在這個地方澄清這一件事情台積電到美國投資這件事情從總統開始以下經濟部我們其實都參與\n這樣的一個過程那每一個人負擔的這個內容會不一樣經濟部呢當然是知道台積電會去投資那我們把關的地方是在投審會把關的地方在投審會那我想總統跟這個台積電的互動那麼總統我們包括我們的國安包括我們的整個行政院的長官都是一樣都參與這樣的一個討論\n但是分工分工那经济部做什么事情经济部当然不是只有台积电投资这件事情包括美国的这些关税啊各方面的新政府他们的措施会怎么样所以经济部只扮演一个搜寻这个资讯提供正确的这个资讯给陈锋他们来做最后的判断也给台积电做一个比较完整的这个参考\n這個大家對我的誤會說你都不知道我怎麼可能不知道我是說那一天我接受訪問的時候那個主持人問我說一千億你知不知道跟委員報告這個是我很多不能說的部分所以我想大家可以諒解這種部分其實坦白講\n我們去的時候沒有這個數字他大概跟我們應該說大概他要設多少個幾座的晶圓廠還有這個先進的封裝設施或是研發中心他有一個範圍的金額\n我覺得說因為一句話所以部長以後\n我們如果說要更精準的回答問題沒錯就是說很清楚說我們知道規模可是金額我們還是要尊重台積電自己的宣布因為我們又不是台積電所以部長這個就是媒體這當中有時候就一句話就會被很多的不一樣的解讀我們就說怎麼可能會不知道而且我們所清楚的在這事前是很多不能講\n從國安從經濟面那今天因為在這整個台積電的量能對於這個投資對我們台灣的基本面是沒有影響的因為它整個know-how跟研發的關鍵還是在台灣這才是重點所以這當中包括我們的總統包括部長包括各單位都跟台積電非常掌控所有這個訊息是所以\n我覺得這要說清楚否則會讓我們很多的民眾會有擔憂說台積電這麼嚴重要去美國投資我們不知道不是不知道而是在每一個時間點我們該說的該做的有不一樣的分工\n而且當台積電畢竟它還是一間上市的公司它很多的一些必須宣布的還是要由它自己來宣布不能是我們政府來宣布所以這個部分還是要很清楚去做很多的一個分頁然後再一個就是說台積電傳說要合資入股Intel這個部分\n經濟部有掌控嗎還是你認為就像部長所說的你覺得這個訊息其實不是那麼準確報告委員這個新聞如果不是台積電自己發布出來的我們都不予評論\n這是跟台積電的問題嘛是台積電沒有發布的訊息我們怎麼去評論這個這可能是對很多想到消息或是不一樣的解讀就像一句話會被不一樣解讀所以\n其實台積電我們在強調它是一個在台灣上市的公司然後在國際間是一個非常重要指標性的一個大廠所以它今天要做任何的所謂的擴展或是有任何的投資基本上是要由它自己來宣布\n對沒有錯他一定會發重訊像這種事情他一定要發重訊所以他沒有這個確認的事情我想在坊間大家的傳聞經濟部的立場就是不予評論所以部長我們還是認為這個我們不予評論但是有一個重點是我們也要準備好\n就是說隨時如果萬一他真的對外宣布了我們有沒有準備好了我想那一天我問了相關單位基本上大家其實是準備好的我們都有非常多的simulation很多的基本假設如果這樣子我們怎麼做這樣子做怎麼做我想這麼大的一個公司對國家影響這麼大的一個作為\n經濟部沒有基本假設沒有提早因應這個是不可能的對所以我覺得這個我們應該講出來讓民眾知道我們政府會因應各種狀況的發生是那我們前提就是不會影響到我們台灣的經濟也不會影響我們整個所謂的半導體或是我們相關產業的一個進步跟成長好這個是很重要謝謝部長謝謝好謝謝\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:04.912 --> 00:08.283\n谢谢赵伟后我们请部长郭部长\n\n00:21.498 --> 00:39.290\n我們更期待的是把我們的特色跟精神要在世博的展場當中凸顯我想這個更重要所以我們在展場的佈置當中我們不能把我們自己的精神跟特色然後還有文化把它\n\n00:40.393 --> 00:57.244\n放棄我覺得這個部分是很重要的其實我覺得名字雖然重要但是我們的價值我們的精神我們的文化跟我們的產業更為重要所以這個部分要拜託部長這也是我們希望透過各種\n\n00:58.004 --> 01:23.694\n管道能夠把台灣的量能能夠展現出去那我們也知道現在我們遇到是一個派出兵不斷的用各種方式在打壓我們可是我們不能這樣就停止不前了我們更是要利用各種方式然後把台灣的特色精神文化產業很直接的呈現出來那透過設計\n\n01:25.834 --> 01:39.185\n我們的特色透過設計其實會展現不一樣的風貌所以這個部分再拜託部長是報告委員我想世博是國際合作跟這個文化交流的重要平台\n\n01:40.066 --> 01:53.523\n那我們用這個TechWorld館除了向全球觀眾展示我國的科技創新實力也將豐富文化與生命活力爭取更多合作的機會謝謝委員剛才的這個勉勵所以厚色比什麼更重要\n\n01:58.008 --> 02:11.582\n當我們有特色大家的目光焦點全部在我們身上的時候我們得到更多的交流機會這才是重要讓他用各種不同的方式看到我們台灣這個國家的軟實力\n\n02:14.264 --> 02:43.531\n我相信這才是我們花了這20億很重要的關鍵所以我想我們必須體認我們遇到一個派出品可是我們不能停滯不前我們更應該往前走把台灣更不一樣的聲音與特色展現出來透過各種平台的交流所以再拜託部長我們希望給我們的紅人更多的鼓勵那場館的時間還有場館的特色我相信我們都要把它掌控住\n\n02:44.112 --> 02:51.793\n再拜託部長部長在另外一個部分就是說我們一直圍繞在你身上的\n\n02:52.714 --> 03:17.479\n尤其最近就是因為這個台積電赴美投資到底經濟部事前有沒有掌握光這個議題就連炒了好幾天部長我覺得你不可能沒有掌握啦我覺得從國安從經濟議題我們一定都要在每一個環節都掌握住可是可能有些時間點你\n\n03:19.139 --> 03:44.050\n不應該也不能夠在第一時間做一個很清楚的看法跟對外的說明所以而被誤解了所以既然今天台積電赴美投資這已經很確定了我讓你一個時間你跟我們說一下到底你清不清楚這整個台積電的赴美投資案的狀況\n\n03:45.046 --> 03:58.925\n報告委員我想謝謝你給我這樣的一個機會能夠在這個地方澄清這一件事情台積電到美國投資這件事情從總統開始以下經濟部我們其實都參與\n\n04:00.366 --> 04:23.942\n這樣的一個過程那每一個人負擔的這個內容會不一樣經濟部呢當然是知道台積電會去投資那我們把關的地方是在投審會把關的地方在投審會那我想總統跟這個台積電的互動那麼總統我們包括我們的國安包括我們的整個行政院的長官都是一樣都參與這樣的一個討論\n\n04:25.843 --> 04:52.833\n但是分工分工那经济部做什么事情经济部当然不是只有台积电投资这件事情包括美国的这些关税啊各方面的新政府他们的措施会怎么样所以经济部只扮演一个搜寻这个资讯提供正确的这个资讯给陈锋他们来做最后的判断也给台积电做一个比较完整的这个参考\n\n04:54.478 --> 05:17.436\n這個大家對我的誤會說你都不知道我怎麼可能不知道我是說那一天我接受訪問的時候那個主持人問我說一千億你知不知道跟委員報告這個是我很多不能說的部分所以我想大家可以諒解這種部分其實坦白講\n\n05:19.178 --> 05:34.710\n我們去的時候沒有這個數字他大概跟我們應該說大概他要設多少個幾座的晶圓廠還有這個先進的封裝設施或是研發中心他有一個範圍的金額\n\n05:37.773 --> 05:38.634\n我覺得說因為一句話所以部長以後\n\n05:54.375 --> 06:23.035\n我們如果說要更精準的回答問題沒錯就是說很清楚說我們知道規模可是金額我們還是要尊重台積電自己的宣布因為我們又不是台積電所以部長這個就是媒體這當中有時候就一句話就會被很多的不一樣的解讀我們就說怎麼可能會不知道而且我們所清楚的在這事前是很多不能講\n\n06:24.335 --> 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