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00:00:43,517\n因為去年11月就在我們的經濟委員會就已經質詢過同一個主題了那上次我有請標檢局能不能盤點相關法規跟配套措施跟相關部會做討論看如何怎麼做跨部會的合作\n\n3\n00:00:44,264 --> 00:00:57,816\n那也希望標準局在後續交給我們一些相關報告所以在報告裡面我們比較沒有辦法看到就是說你們盤點缺乏的法規跟開會這兩個部分我是沒有看到的想問局長說這兩個部分有做嗎\n\n4\n00:01:00,398 --> 00:01:22,671\n那為什麼報告裡面沒有呈現這兩個東西所以如果有做的話那是不是會後應該要給我因為我說從去年11月就已經諮詢了然後要請你們交報告到現在這個報告裡面還缺這個先跟口頭跟委員報告一下我們在郭部長指示下2月份由部裡頭召開一個協調會議那也把速發部主管機關找來\n\n5\n00:01:23,672 --> 00:01:41,588\n那也把那個相關的那個電商平台都找來我們就是希望進一步找出委員所提的一些問題那我們如何加強我們在會議上都有充分討論好謝謝標準局做的事情不過我們也還是要問因為從你的報告裡邊如果你講說二月份郭部長已經找相關的部會來討論的話那先來問你的報告裡邊回覆竟然寫是跨電\n\n6\n00:01:51,236 --> 00:02:11,087\n跨境電商因為我國的法令無意外的效力固難以規範這件事情想問的是說我們當時要你盤的是如果法規上不足的要去定法所以我不知道說現在如果二月份開完會之後這個解決了嗎\n\n7\n00:02:12,108 --> 00:02:41,145\n沒有因為那個跨境電商這個部分我們去了解survey一下全世界也沒有一個跨境電商的一個管理即使各國都截然那所以這一塊我們暫時沒有辦法有一個很具體的答案跟委員回報但是我們強調的是說如果東西一旦進到境內我們會加強做境內的管控那目前我們是朝這個方向在積極的一個處理那這個部分有跟委員報告過有一天也是到委員辦公室來這部分我們會持續加強做前市場跟後市場的管理\n\n8\n00:02:41,425 --> 00:02:45,521\n不過歐盟在2023年5月就正式通過一般產品的安全規範\n\n9\n00:02:47,904 --> 00:03:09,500\nGPSR這邊新規定在2024年12月也就是全面生效要求所有包含跨境電商的商品都要符合歐盟的安全標準所以你這個是不是應該要把它考量進去剛剛跟我回答說沒有可是今天歐盟他們已經做可能要去考慮這種比較積極性的做法\n\n10\n00:03:14,083 --> 00:03:26,611\n上次您提到這個GPSR我們有去了解那它現在是一個非常粗犯的一個規範事實上它真正要執行到執行端的那個細節都還沒有出來所以我們會持續挖取它的一個相關規範\n\n11\n00:03:29,173 --> 00:03:43,383\n那現在回收這一塊我想問一下就是這個發現違規是如何發現的就是是靠民眾檢舉投訴嗎然後每年回收改正的產品或兒童產品有多少\n\n12\n00:03:44,847 --> 00:04:11,140\n先跟委員報告一下我們機制上在商品檢驗法的規範下我們派員檢查有兩種一種是我們的同仁市場檢查一種是購樣檢測也就是說市場檢查是在市面上去看或者是網路上去查如果有商品檢驗法規範的它沒有陰屍檢驗的話我們就會可以依法通過是那我說你們這樣做可是大概每年回收改正的產品或兒童產品有多少\n\n13\n00:04:12,061 --> 00:04:22,941\n我舉個例子我只要知道件數你們現在做到的是我舉個例子電商這一塊我們自從開始這樣子跟他合作之後我們下架大概一年有七八萬件\n\n14\n00:04:24,209 --> 00:04:50,322\n只要他發現是沒有預購的7、8萬件7萬多件那也要再提醒就是我們一直覺得宣導非常重要可是你的小安心粉專從2012年創立到現在13年那粉絲人數在5萬5所以我認為還是要再強化因為民眾他需要有知那可是他知道你們有這樣子的一個\n\n15\n00:04:51,683 --> 00:05:08,319\n資訊平台讓他們知道嘛還有一個積極檢驗這一塊也想請美季列為我們高風險的標的商品有哪些我們會定期公告我先標檢局網站上我找不到高風險商品檢驗公開資訊\n\n16\n00:05:10,379 --> 00:05:32,388\n我們會後再跟文這邊說明一下網站查詢的方式我們再跟文這邊說明那剛剛John回答說有7萬件可是我們現在去看到的是說今天我只針對兒童產品了解下架回收的狀況結果發現我們的召回的兒童產品平均一年只有一件\n\n17\n00:05:33,653 --> 00:06:01,596\n我剛剛報告的是下架的數量是7萬件那委員說的回收我們有數字因為我現在手邊沒有我會後再提供給辦公室這是我們在你們網站上找到的只有一件可是你去看美國CPSC他們才短短的現在才3月他們已經有38件所以我覺得這是不是應該要去考慮就比較積極的做法讓台灣產品都很安全才可以保障到我們兒童\n\n18\n00:06:02,476 --> 00:06:28,982\n那再來我們看到嬰屍檢項目這一塊就是標準局在給我報告當中現在總共33項可是足夠嗎因為我們看畫面上的這個嬰兒的車的風扇還有抽屜櫃的那個仿秦島的束帶那遮光捲簾這些目前都是美國CPSC裡面他們有已經提出一些警訊\n\n19\n00:06:30,402 --> 00:06:52,683\n會造成孩子手指夾傷或者是捲到脖子產生窒息的商品所以他們都已經有一些要求所以想問標檢局這種兒童產品的因試驗項目有逐年評估嗎你們評估機制是依據什麼人家事實上是有規劃有確定然後最後去做到然後從標檢局這邊可能就會有一些要求在\n\n20\n00:06:53,243 --> 00:07:13,631\n有跟我們報告一下我們那個英式檢驗商品有一定的那個程序在走每一年如果社會分社會關切像玩具這個就是過去幾年那個社會上一致的覺得它是一個高風險商品我們就把它列主席像這些東西都有已經在如果美國他們已經有系統規劃已經知道這些商品所以對孩子產生傷害\n\n21\n00:07:14,131 --> 00:07:24,077\n是不是國內就應該要把列為英式檢驗項目可以但是我們有一個程序會走就是要看到整個社會氛圍我們也要去知道國內的一個檢驗能量還有產業從業界產業之間的一個協調才能作為英式檢驗的商品最後就是還是期待\n\n22\n00:07:32,702 --> 00:07:56,751\n趕快盤點現行法規不足當中裡面有沒有什麼可以接近其他國家的那還有兒童商品我還是期待你們事實上是如果我們這邊沒有的可是其他國外有產生對孩子傷害的應該還是列為隱私項目好我們朝這個方向再麻煩你這個可能一個月內給我相關的報告好謝謝謝謝委員辛苦了謝謝\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n8697\t13382\t好 主席想請那個陳怡伶標準局的局長好 請陳局長\n24940\t43517\t因為去年11月就在我們的經濟委員會就已經質詢過同一個主題了那上次我有請標檢局能不能盤點相關法規跟配套措施跟相關部會做討論看如何怎麼做跨部會的合作\n44264\t57816\t那也希望標準局在後續交給我們一些相關報告所以在報告裡面我們比較沒有辦法看到就是說你們盤點缺乏的法規跟開會這兩個部分我是沒有看到的想問局長說這兩個部分有做嗎\n60398\t82671\t那為什麼報告裡面沒有呈現這兩個東西所以如果有做的話那是不是會後應該要給我因為我說從去年11月就已經諮詢了然後要請你們交報告到現在這個報告裡面還缺這個先跟口頭跟委員報告一下我們在郭部長指示下2月份由部裡頭召開一個協調會議那也把速發部主管機關找來\n83672\t101588\t那也把那個相關的那個電商平台都找來我們就是希望進一步找出委員所提的一些問題那我們如何加強我們在會議上都有充分討論好謝謝標準局做的事情不過我們也還是要問因為從你的報告裡邊如果你講說二月份郭部長已經找相關的部會來討論的話那先來問你的報告裡邊回覆竟然寫是跨電\n111236\t131087\t跨境電商因為我國的法令無意外的效力固難以規範這件事情想問的是說我們當時要你盤的是如果法規上不足的要去定法所以我不知道說現在如果二月份開完會之後這個解決了嗎\n132108\t161145\t沒有 因為那個跨境電商這個部分我們去了解 survey 一下全世界也沒有一個跨境電商的一個管理即使各國都截然那所以這一塊我們暫時沒有辦法有一個很具體的答案跟委員回報但是我們強調的是說如果東西一旦進到境內我們會加強做境內的管控那目前我們是朝這個方向在積極的一個處理那這個部分有跟委員報告過有一天也是到委員辦公室來這部分我們會持續加強做前市場跟後市場的管理\n161425\t165521\t不過歐盟在2023年5月就正式通過一般產品的安全規範\n167904\t189500\tGPSR這邊新規定在2024年12月也就是全面生效要求所有包含跨境電商的商品都要符合歐盟的安全標準所以你這個是不是應該要把它考量進去剛剛跟我回答說沒有可是今天歐盟他們已經做可能要去考慮這種比較積極性的做法\n194083\t206611\t上次您提到這個GPSR我們有去了解那它現在是一個非常粗犯的一個規範事實上它真正要執行到執行端的那個細節都還沒有出來所以我們會持續挖取它的一個相關規範\n209173\t223383\t那現在回收這一塊我想問一下就是這個發現違規是如何發現的就是是靠民眾檢舉投訴嗎然後每年回收改正的產品或兒童產品有多少\n224847\t251140\t先跟委員報告一下我們機制上在商品檢驗法的規範下我們派員檢查有兩種一種是我們的同仁市場檢查一種是購樣檢測也就是說市場檢查是在市面上去看或者是網路上去查如果有商品檢驗法規範的它沒有陰屍檢驗的話我們就會可以依法通過是 那我說你們這樣做可是大概每年回收改正的產品或兒童產品有多少\n252061\t262941\t我舉個例子我只要知道件數你們現在做到的是我舉個例子電商這一塊我們自從開始這樣子跟他合作之後我們下架大概一年有七八萬件\n264209\t290322\t只要他發現是沒有預購的7、8萬件7萬多件那也要再提醒就是我們一直覺得宣導非常重要可是你的小安心粉專從2012年創立到現在13年那粉絲人數在5萬5所以我認為還是要再強化因為民眾他需要有知那可是他知道你們有這樣子的一個\n291683\t308319\t資訊平台讓他們知道嘛還有一個積極檢驗這一塊也想請美季列為我們高風險的標的商品有哪些我們會定期公告我先標檢局網站上我找不到高風險商品檢驗公開資訊\n310379\t332388\t我們會後再跟文這邊說明一下網站查詢的方式我們再跟文這邊說明那剛剛John回答說有7萬件可是我們現在去看到的是說今天我只針對兒童產品了解下架回收的狀況結果發現我們的召回的兒童產品平均一年只有一件\n333653\t361596\t我剛剛報告的是下架的數量是7萬件那委員說的回收我們有數字因為我現在手邊沒有我會後再提供給辦公室這是我們在你們網站上找到的只有一件可是你去看美國CPSC他們才短短的現在才3月他們已經有38件所以我覺得這是不是應該要去考慮就比較積極的做法讓台灣產品都很安全才可以保障到我們兒童\n362476\t388982\t那再來我們看到嬰屍檢項目這一塊就是標準局在給我報告當中現在總共33項可是足夠嗎因為我們看畫面上的這個嬰兒的車的風扇還有抽屜櫃的那個仿秦島的束帶那遮光捲簾這些目前都是美國CPSC裡面他們有已經提出一些警訊\n390402\t412683\t會造成孩子手指夾傷或者是捲到脖子產生窒息的商品所以他們都已經有一些要求所以想問標檢局這種兒童產品的因試驗項目有逐年評估嗎你們評估機制是依據什麼人家事實上是有規劃有確定然後最後去做到然後從標檢局這邊可能就會有一些要求在\n413243\t433631\t有跟我們報告一下我們那個英式檢驗商品有一定的那個程序在走每一年如果社會分社會關切像玩具這個就是過去幾年那個社會上一致的覺得它是一個高風險商品我們就把它列 主席像這些東西都有已經在如果美國他們已經有系統規劃已經知道這些商品所以對孩子產生傷害\n434131\t444077\t是不是國內就應該要把列為英式檢驗項目可以 但是我們有一個程序會走就是要看到整個社會氛圍我們也要去知道國內的一個檢驗能量還有產業 從業界產業之間的一個協調才能作為英式檢驗的商品最後就是還是期待\n452702\t476751\t趕快盤點現行法規不足當中裡面有沒有什麼可以接近其他國家的那還有兒童商品我還是期待你們事實上是如果我們這邊沒有的可是其他國外有產生對孩子傷害的應該還是列為隱私項目好我們朝這個方向再麻煩你這個可能一個月內給我相關的報告好謝謝謝謝委員辛苦了謝謝\n","txt":"好 主席想請那個陳怡伶標準局的局長好 請陳局長\n因為去年11月就在我們的經濟委員會就已經質詢過同一個主題了那上次我有請標檢局能不能盤點相關法規跟配套措施跟相關部會做討論看如何怎麼做跨部會的合作\n那也希望標準局在後續交給我們一些相關報告所以在報告裡面我們比較沒有辦法看到就是說你們盤點缺乏的法規跟開會這兩個部分我是沒有看到的想問局長說這兩個部分有做嗎\n那為什麼報告裡面沒有呈現這兩個東西所以如果有做的話那是不是會後應該要給我因為我說從去年11月就已經諮詢了然後要請你們交報告到現在這個報告裡面還缺這個先跟口頭跟委員報告一下我們在郭部長指示下2月份由部裡頭召開一個協調會議那也把速發部主管機關找來\n那也把那個相關的那個電商平台都找來我們就是希望進一步找出委員所提的一些問題那我們如何加強我們在會議上都有充分討論好謝謝標準局做的事情不過我們也還是要問因為從你的報告裡邊如果你講說二月份郭部長已經找相關的部會來討論的話那先來問你的報告裡邊回覆竟然寫是跨電\n跨境電商因為我國的法令無意外的效力固難以規範這件事情想問的是說我們當時要你盤的是如果法規上不足的要去定法所以我不知道說現在如果二月份開完會之後這個解決了嗎\n沒有 因為那個跨境電商這個部分我們去了解 survey 一下全世界也沒有一個跨境電商的一個管理即使各國都截然那所以這一塊我們暫時沒有辦法有一個很具體的答案跟委員回報但是我們強調的是說如果東西一旦進到境內我們會加強做境內的管控那目前我們是朝這個方向在積極的一個處理那這個部分有跟委員報告過有一天也是到委員辦公室來這部分我們會持續加強做前市場跟後市場的管理\n不過歐盟在2023年5月就正式通過一般產品的安全規範\nGPSR這邊新規定在2024年12月也就是全面生效要求所有包含跨境電商的商品都要符合歐盟的安全標準所以你這個是不是應該要把它考量進去剛剛跟我回答說沒有可是今天歐盟他們已經做可能要去考慮這種比較積極性的做法\n上次您提到這個GPSR我們有去了解那它現在是一個非常粗犯的一個規範事實上它真正要執行到執行端的那個細節都還沒有出來所以我們會持續挖取它的一個相關規範\n那現在回收這一塊我想問一下就是這個發現違規是如何發現的就是是靠民眾檢舉投訴嗎然後每年回收改正的產品或兒童產品有多少\n先跟委員報告一下我們機制上在商品檢驗法的規範下我們派員檢查有兩種一種是我們的同仁市場檢查一種是購樣檢測也就是說市場檢查是在市面上去看或者是網路上去查如果有商品檢驗法規範的它沒有陰屍檢驗的話我們就會可以依法通過是 那我說你們這樣做可是大概每年回收改正的產品或兒童產品有多少\n我舉個例子我只要知道件數你們現在做到的是我舉個例子電商這一塊我們自從開始這樣子跟他合作之後我們下架大概一年有七八萬件\n只要他發現是沒有預購的7、8萬件7萬多件那也要再提醒就是我們一直覺得宣導非常重要可是你的小安心粉專從2012年創立到現在13年那粉絲人數在5萬5所以我認為還是要再強化因為民眾他需要有知那可是他知道你們有這樣子的一個\n資訊平台讓他們知道嘛還有一個積極檢驗這一塊也想請美季列為我們高風險的標的商品有哪些我們會定期公告我先標檢局網站上我找不到高風險商品檢驗公開資訊\n我們會後再跟文這邊說明一下網站查詢的方式我們再跟文這邊說明那剛剛John回答說有7萬件可是我們現在去看到的是說今天我只針對兒童產品了解下架回收的狀況結果發現我們的召回的兒童產品平均一年只有一件\n我剛剛報告的是下架的數量是7萬件那委員說的回收我們有數字因為我現在手邊沒有我會後再提供給辦公室這是我們在你們網站上找到的只有一件可是你去看美國CPSC他們才短短的現在才3月他們已經有38件所以我覺得這是不是應該要去考慮就比較積極的做法讓台灣產品都很安全才可以保障到我們兒童\n那再來我們看到嬰屍檢項目這一塊就是標準局在給我報告當中現在總共33項可是足夠嗎因為我們看畫面上的這個嬰兒的車的風扇還有抽屜櫃的那個仿秦島的束帶那遮光捲簾這些目前都是美國CPSC裡面他們有已經提出一些警訊\n會造成孩子手指夾傷或者是捲到脖子產生窒息的商品所以他們都已經有一些要求所以想問標檢局這種兒童產品的因試驗項目有逐年評估嗎你們評估機制是依據什麼人家事實上是有規劃有確定然後最後去做到然後從標檢局這邊可能就會有一些要求在\n有跟我們報告一下我們那個英式檢驗商品有一定的那個程序在走每一年如果社會分社會關切像玩具這個就是過去幾年那個社會上一致的覺得它是一個高風險商品我們就把它列 主席像這些東西都有已經在如果美國他們已經有系統規劃已經知道這些商品所以對孩子產生傷害\n是不是國內就應該要把列為英式檢驗項目可以 但是我們有一個程序會走就是要看到整個社會氛圍我們也要去知道國內的一個檢驗能量還有產業 從業界產業之間的一個協調才能作為英式檢驗的商品最後就是還是期待\n趕快盤點現行法規不足當中裡面有沒有什麼可以接近其他國家的那還有兒童商品我還是期待你們事實上是如果我們這邊沒有的可是其他國外有產生對孩子傷害的應該還是列為隱私項目好我們朝這個方向再麻煩你這個可能一個月內給我相關的報告好謝謝謝謝委員辛苦了謝謝\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:08.697 --> 00:13.382\n好主席想請那個陳怡伶標準局的局長好請陳局長\n\n00:24.940 --> 00:43.517\n因為去年11月就在我們的經濟委員會就已經質詢過同一個主題了那上次我有請標檢局能不能盤點相關法規跟配套措施跟相關部會做討論看如何怎麼做跨部會的合作\n\n00:44.264 --> 00:57.816\n那也希望標準局在後續交給我們一些相關報告所以在報告裡面我們比較沒有辦法看到就是說你們盤點缺乏的法規跟開會這兩個部分我是沒有看到的想問局長說這兩個部分有做嗎\n\n01:00.398 --> 01:22.671\n那為什麼報告裡面沒有呈現這兩個東西所以如果有做的話那是不是會後應該要給我因為我說從去年11月就已經諮詢了然後要請你們交報告到現在這個報告裡面還缺這個先跟口頭跟委員報告一下我們在郭部長指示下2月份由部裡頭召開一個協調會議那也把速發部主管機關找來\n\n01:23.672 --> 01:41.588\n那也把那個相關的那個電商平台都找來我們就是希望進一步找出委員所提的一些問題那我們如何加強我們在會議上都有充分討論好謝謝標準局做的事情不過我們也還是要問因為從你的報告裡邊如果你講說二月份郭部長已經找相關的部會來討論的話那先來問你的報告裡邊回覆竟然寫是跨電\n\n01:51.236 --> 02:11.087\n跨境電商因為我國的法令無意外的效力固難以規範這件事情想問的是說我們當時要你盤的是如果法規上不足的要去定法所以我不知道說現在如果二月份開完會之後這個解決了嗎\n\n02:12.108 --> 02:41.145\n沒有因為那個跨境電商這個部分我們去了解survey一下全世界也沒有一個跨境電商的一個管理即使各國都截然那所以這一塊我們暫時沒有辦法有一個很具體的答案跟委員回報但是我們強調的是說如果東西一旦進到境內我們會加強做境內的管控那目前我們是朝這個方向在積極的一個處理那這個部分有跟委員報告過有一天也是到委員辦公室來這部分我們會持續加強做前市場跟後市場的管理\n\n02:41.425 --> 02:45.521\n不過歐盟在2023年5月就正式通過一般產品的安全規範\n\n02:47.904 --> 03:09.500\nGPSR這邊新規定在2024年12月也就是全面生效要求所有包含跨境電商的商品都要符合歐盟的安全標準所以你這個是不是應該要把它考量進去剛剛跟我回答說沒有可是今天歐盟他們已經做可能要去考慮這種比較積極性的做法\n\n03:14.083 --> 03:26.611\n上次您提到這個GPSR我們有去了解那它現在是一個非常粗犯的一個規範事實上它真正要執行到執行端的那個細節都還沒有出來所以我們會持續挖取它的一個相關規範\n\n03:29.173 --> 03:43.383\n那現在回收這一塊我想問一下就是這個發現違規是如何發現的就是是靠民眾檢舉投訴嗎然後每年回收改正的產品或兒童產品有多少\n\n03:44.847 --> 04:11.140\n先跟委員報告一下我們機制上在商品檢驗法的規範下我們派員檢查有兩種一種是我們的同仁市場檢查一種是購樣檢測也就是說市場檢查是在市面上去看或者是網路上去查如果有商品檢驗法規範的它沒有陰屍檢驗的話我們就會可以依法通過是那我說你們這樣做可是大概每年回收改正的產品或兒童產品有多少\n\n04:12.061 --> 04:22.941\n我舉個例子我只要知道件數你們現在做到的是我舉個例子電商這一塊我們自從開始這樣子跟他合作之後我們下架大概一年有七八萬件\n\n04:24.209 --> 04:50.322\n只要他發現是沒有預購的7、8萬件7萬多件那也要再提醒就是我們一直覺得宣導非常重要可是你的小安心粉專從2012年創立到現在13年那粉絲人數在5萬5所以我認為還是要再強化因為民眾他需要有知那可是他知道你們有這樣子的一個\n\n04:51.683 --> 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