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00:02:22,402\n是的謝謝委員對於保健食品的關稅目前是30%那當然對於關稅它涉及的層面是很廣的因為它要考量到產業的發展另外也要考慮到消費者的權益之間的橫貧性那對於這個保健食品的關稅我們也多次跟產業發展署這邊還有跟經濟部這邊做密切的聯繫目前來說對於民眾比較關切像那種定季的或是那個膠囊狀的這個保健\n\n7\n00:02:25,445 --> 00:02:44,922\n產發署已經有一些相關的回應的一個意見他認為可以比如說國內業者主要生產的項目可以用分階段的分年式的來做降稅那對於就是國內比較沒有做不是國內主要生產的話或者這部分也可以直接做調降\n\n8\n00:02:45,723 --> 00:02:57,589\n但是這些項目到底它的範圍是到哪裡哪一些的項目要明確以及它分年降稅的年期跟怎麼樣的降稅這部分我們也進一步的請產發署這個部分能夠把它更細緻化那如果更細緻化更確認以後並且提出稅市支出評估的話那財政部這邊會做相應的後續的一個法制作業\n\n9\n00:03:10,031 --> 00:03:26,949\n我想跟產方署去談之外其實未來也可以跟我們的貿易談判辦公室在談這件事情因為我們主動把這一些關稅降低那就是給我們的政府有更多的談判的空間那對未來的整體的經貿的談判我認為還是有幫助的這一點也希望\n\n10\n00:03:28,130 --> 00:03:42,541\n財政部能夠來做協調把這些全部都放在我們談判的一些重要的資產跟籌碼裡面這個是我們必須要談的那再來就是說因為財化法修法的關係現在中央對地方的補助當然是會受到影響\n\n11\n00:03:43,542 --> 00:04:00,216\n那主要還是計劃性補助可是有些會暫緩那之前部長你有在記者會有提到說新版的財劃法的執行下如果在維持原來的支出那就必須要舉債有沒有這樣的打算有沒有這樣的規劃\n\n12\n00:04:02,380 --> 00:04:16,093\n這個就是說如果說新版的財化法會從中央要多釋出相當大一塊的一個財源而且又規定說一般性補助款不得低於修法前那個年度就是以114年來說是2500億\n\n13\n00:04:18,336 --> 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