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\"zh\"}","srt":"1\n00:00:00,309 --> 00:00:20,858\n感謝主席請我們劉副長請副長先喝一口茶沒關係先喝一口茶好感謝副長我們今天要討論我們這個租房市場的問題我們租房市場的主要年齡階層都等於我們這個30歲以下左右這個年輕人近期我們這個民間\n\n2\n00:00:29,076 --> 00:00:31,318\n統計數據,在房價比較高的各國所購房屋,平均都已經到40倍,代表我們出銷的醫療超過10年,都要靠這個做出來度過,所以我們\n\n3\n00:00:44,968 --> 00:00:47,630\n這個房租是年輕人最實在的一個基礎對我們年輕人來說這個房價以外比較實在這個房租的問題但是以我們的組織總署的統計\n\n4\n00:01:01,299 --> 00:01:05,781\n出租的基礎是超過1.6%這個收益持續創下歷史新高再來看這幾年的數據出租的年增率有1.5%\n\n5\n00:01:17,247 --> 00:01:22,868\n這是連鎖19個月超過過分1年4年以來累積造福已經到過程中這個怕人的受益凸顯出這個租屋主他的壓力當然這一直攀高的租金我們來經過當過過端各項進程也都最近這幾年有開始推動這個租屋補貼或是這個高租代管或是這個社會主宰\n\n6\n00:01:46,134 --> 00:01:51,677\n顯然政府的努力要是國土租金的上漲再來眼看今年那個電價可能又要上漲今天還有一顆高峰所以今天請國長報告這個租賃市場的這個報告讓我們政府可以加強才可以真正的廣授到我們的租屋者\n\n7\n00:02:12,211 --> 00:02:13,692\n現在還是沒有辦法由行政院的公務預算來撥補\n\n8\n00:02:36,304 --> 00:02:45,873\n我想我們會非常的努力來幫忙尤其是年輕的租屋的族群跟委員報告一下像目前我們現在所核定的64萬戶裡面40歲以下的大概佔54%\n\n9\n00:02:50,717 --> 00:03:05,778\n也就是說將近有34.7萬戶的青年族群是走我們這個租金補貼的部分那也希望委員能夠多多幫忙就是租金補貼的部分在未來在山洞的部分不要再走這個山跟洞的方式\n\n10\n00:03:06,198 --> 00:03:25,893\n因為要不然到年底的時候我們會可能要減少他這個租金補貼或者會降低他租金補貼的申請戶數這是我們最大的期盼那在雲林縣雖然說雲林縣是農業大縣可是雲林縣也是有很多申請租金補貼的部分在定位碗理所服務的婚姻館裡面申請這個合併戶數已經是13,383戶裡面大概超過1億\n\n11\n00:03:36,261 --> 00:03:54,606\n需要撥款的金額是超過一億啦但是到十一月的時候會用慶米紅裡面就沒有米拜託你倒三天他還可以我們應該我們的結帳我不知道這是立法院的程序我們要尊重立法院的程序所以這可能我們來經過要跟立法院要跟我們我們現在已經跟立法院在溝通我們內政部是跟著行政院的這個政策方向來走的\n\n12\n00:04:05,769 --> 00:04:07,991\n好啦其實把我們這個與省用餘在民間用餘在民生上我們是一定都全力支持啦一定全力支持相信說我們國中你也知道說我連一戶人\n\n13\n00:04:23,643 --> 00:04:33,148\n一個人也沒有跟你們同時一個人也沒有跟你們刪除依賴的過分但是我們不能這樣用因為沒有白紙黑紙給我們行政院的公文我們不能這樣用公文我們沒辦法照顧他們的法律犯罪依賴來做這些事情這是縣跟縣溝通的部分我們是將對地方\n\n14\n00:04:48,575 --> 00:04:51,256\n的訴求來給我們鼓掌歡迎當然這個委員會前面有討論我們委員都要求來清國要強化這個資金的價格的揭露但一直以來我們政府\n\n15\n00:05:03,749 --> 00:05:09,535\n有連這個實際房東房客數量到底多少我們要求說有一個很明顯的確定沒有沒有我跟那個委員報告一下我剛才有在我們的報告裡面說到只要是公勃文裡面包括包租代管或者是我們的住宅\n\n16\n00:05:20,506 --> 00:05:46,605\n或者是我們可以有效掌握到我們已經公佈了大約六成那另外的沒有辦法公佈的部分可能譬如說他的那個他是私人跟私人之間的這個契約你要去掌握到他的契約真的是非常的不容易那現在我們就是想辦法要縮小譬如說只要能夠介入我知道財政部有要提供多少減稅措施\n\n17\n00:05:47,506 --> 00:06:03,398\n但是有些房東他可能也不願意他覺得說我如果提供我的租金的範圍之後雖然可以減稅但是大家都知道我租了多少錢還有重要的就是他提供的這個價格他提供的這個租金到底是對還是不對那我們沒有辦法公部門沒有辦法幫私人的民法契約上面的這個租賃條約跟他做這個保證說我這個保證這個要做一萬塊是一萬塊還是真的太萬二塊\n\n18\n00:06:16,428 --> 00:06:21,871\n所以事實上我們現在公佈了在公佈門能夠公佈出去的租金市場是做定貓譬如說我們在刀絡或是在粉林這個地方有某一個社宅或是某一個區域裡面我們公佈大概這個價格是多少的話其他的人可以來稍微看一下差不多這個介紹不要吵架太多了這個鄉鎮啦這個鄉鎮其實有可能因為是有很多的介紹\n\n19\n00:06:44,265 --> 00:06:53,156\n因為我們分成四分位然後根據他的房型又分了大概分成三所以其中有十二個部分是可以做處理的差不多這個區塊啦你不可能一間一間啦這個區塊如果多了這樣啦\n\n20\n00:07:00,465 --> 00:07:04,807\n他們這個廣場起來做活動對他是幾層的或是幾戶或是一戶的或是獨立套房這我們都有分區在做但是我們這個只能達到定毛的效果因為房子又有新又有古還有一間一座或是外座還有地段\n\n21\n00:07:17,532 --> 00:07:41,208\n這個博文是比較複雜,但是我們盡量朝著透明化來發展但是百分之百透明化,按照台灣是一個尊重法治跟尊重私人的個資的話是做不到的啦好,還有一項問題,就是我們這個我們這個租網站訊息的這個系統,我們現在的公告是朝日當時的半年以後,下一次什麼時候\n\n22\n00:07:45,290 --> 00:08:02,931\n我們預計我們現在已經就是去年3月去年8月跟今年1月已經公佈那我們預計在今年的6月跟今年的12月會再公佈那個新的這些租這會持續的調整應該不是公格後的最終的版本\n\n23\n00:08:04,713 --> 00:08:24,665\n每一次都會公佈出來新的就表示說我們繼續收集這個統計資料看起來我們大概是每半年會公佈一次像屋齡類型一樣一樣我們在統計上面這個很容易做得到譬如說屋齡一定是越來越老不可能越來越新這個是不可能的好感謝國定感謝朱先生謝謝好謝謝丁學忠委員的支持\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n309\t20858\t感謝主席 請我們劉副長請副長先喝一口茶沒關係先喝一口茶好 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其實把我們這個與省用餘在民間 用餘在民生上我們是一定都全力支持啦 一定全力支持 相信說我們國中你也知道說 我連一戶人\n263643\t273148\t一個人也沒有跟你們同時一個人也沒有跟你們刪除 依賴的過分但是我們不能這樣用 因為沒有白紙黑紙給我們行政院的公文 我們不能這樣用公文我們沒辦法照顧他們的法律犯罪依賴來做這些事情 這是縣跟縣溝通的部分我們是將對地方\n288575\t291256\t的訴求來給我們鼓掌歡迎當然這個委員會前面有討論我們委員都要求來清國要強化這個資金的價格的揭露但一直以來我們政府\n303749\t309535\t有連這個實際房東房客數量到底多少我們要求說有一個很明顯的確定沒有沒有 我跟那個委員報告一下我剛才有在我們的報告裡面說到只要是公勃文裡面包括包租代管或者是我們的住宅\n320506\t346605\t或者是我們可以有效掌握到我們已經公佈了大約六成那另外的沒有辦法公佈的部分可能譬如說他的那個他是私人跟私人之間的這個契約你要去掌握到他的契約真的是非常的不容易那現在我們就是想辦法要縮小譬如說只要能夠介入我知道財政部有要提供多少減稅措施\n347506\t363398\t但是有些房東他可能也不願意他覺得說我如果提供我的租金的範圍之後雖然可以減稅但是大家都知道我租了多少錢還有重要的就是他提供的這個價格他提供的這個租金到底是對還是不對那我們沒有辦法公部門沒有辦法幫私人的民法契約上面的這個租賃條約跟他做這個保證說我這個保證這個要做一萬塊是一萬塊還是真的太萬二塊\n376428\t381871\t所以事實上我們現在公佈了在公佈門能夠公佈出去的租金市場是做定貓譬如說我們在刀絡或是在粉林這個地方有某一個社宅或是某一個區域裡面我們公佈大概這個價格是多少的話其他的人可以來稍微看一下差不多這個介紹不要吵架太多了這個鄉鎮啦這個鄉鎮其實有可能因為是有很多的介紹\n404265\t413156\t因為我們分成四分位然後根據他的房型又分了大概分成三所以其中有十二個部分是可以做處理的差不多這個區塊啦你不可能一間一間啦這個區塊如果多了這樣啦\n420465\t424807\t他們這個廣場起來做活動對 他是幾層的 或是幾戶 或是一戶的 或是獨立套房這我們都有分區在做但是我們這個只能達到定毛的效果因為房子又有新又有古 還有一間一座或是外座 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02:13.692\n現在還是沒有辦法由行政院的公務預算來撥補\n\n02:36.304 --> 02:45.873\n我想我們會非常的努力來幫忙尤其是年輕的租屋的族群跟委員報告一下像目前我們現在所核定的64萬戶裡面40歲以下的大概佔54%\n\n02:50.717 --> 03:05.778\n也就是說將近有34.7萬戶的青年族群是走我們這個租金補貼的部分那也希望委員能夠多多幫忙就是租金補貼的部分在未來在山洞的部分不要再走這個山跟洞的方式\n\n03:06.198 --> 03:25.893\n因為要不然到年底的時候我們會可能要減少他這個租金補貼或者會降低他租金補貼的申請戶數這是我們最大的期盼那在雲林縣雖然說雲林縣是農業大縣可是雲林縣也是有很多申請租金補貼的部分在定位碗理所服務的婚姻館裡面申請這個合併戶數已經是13,383戶裡面大概超過1億\n\n03:36.261 --> 03:54.606\n需要撥款的金額是超過一億啦但是到十一月的時候會用慶米紅裡面就沒有米拜託你倒三天他還可以我們應該我們的結帳我不知道這是立法院的程序我們要尊重立法院的程序所以這可能我們來經過要跟立法院要跟我們我們現在已經跟立法院在溝通我們內政部是跟著行政院的這個政策方向來走的\n\n04:05.769 --> 04:07.991\n好啦其實把我們這個與省用餘在民間用餘在民生上我們是一定都全力支持啦一定全力支持相信說我們國中你也知道說我連一戶人\n\n04:23.643 --> 04:33.148\n一個人也沒有跟你們同時一個人也沒有跟你們刪除依賴的過分但是我們不能這樣用因為沒有白紙黑紙給我們行政院的公文我們不能這樣用公文我們沒辦法照顧他們的法律犯罪依賴來做這些事情這是縣跟縣溝通的部分我們是將對地方\n\n04:48.575 --> 04:51.256\n的訴求來給我們鼓掌歡迎當然這個委員會前面有討論我們委員都要求來清國要強化這個資金的價格的揭露但一直以來我們政府\n\n05:03.749 --> 05:09.535\n有連這個實際房東房客數量到底多少我們要求說有一個很明顯的確定沒有沒有我跟那個委員報告一下我剛才有在我們的報告裡面說到只要是公勃文裡面包括包租代管或者是我們的住宅\n\n05:20.506 --> 05:46.605\n或者是我們可以有效掌握到我們已經公佈了大約六成那另外的沒有辦法公佈的部分可能譬如說他的那個他是私人跟私人之間的這個契約你要去掌握到他的契約真的是非常的不容易那現在我們就是想辦法要縮小譬如說只要能夠介入我知道財政部有要提供多少減稅措施\n\n05:47.506 --> 06:03.398\n但是有些房東他可能也不願意他覺得說我如果提供我的租金的範圍之後雖然可以減稅但是大家都知道我租了多少錢還有重要的就是他提供的這個價格他提供的這個租金到底是對還是不對那我們沒有辦法公部門沒有辦法幫私人的民法契約上面的這個租賃條約跟他做這個保證說我這個保證這個要做一萬塊是一萬塊還是真的太萬二塊\n\n06:16.428 --> 06:21.871\n所以事實上我們現在公佈了在公佈門能夠公佈出去的租金市場是做定貓譬如說我們在刀絡或是在粉林這個地方有某一個社宅或是某一個區域裡面我們公佈大概這個價格是多少的話其他的人可以來稍微看一下差不多這個介紹不要吵架太多了這個鄉鎮啦這個鄉鎮其實有可能因為是有很多的介紹\n\n06:44.265 --> 06:53.156\n因為我們分成四分位然後根據他的房型又分了大概分成三所以其中有十二個部分是可以做處理的差不多這個區塊啦你不可能一間一間啦這個區塊如果多了這樣啦\n\n07:00.465 --> 07:04.807\n他們這個廣場起來做活動對他是幾層的或是幾戶或是一戶的或是獨立套房這我們都有分區在做但是我們這個只能達到定毛的效果因為房子又有新又有古還有一間一座或是外座還有地段\n\n07:17.532 --> 07:41.208\n這個博文是比較複雜,但是我們盡量朝著透明化來發展但是百分之百透明化,按照台灣是一個尊重法治跟尊重私人的個資的話是做不到的啦好,還有一項問題,就是我們這個我們這個租網站訊息的這個系統,我們現在的公告是朝日當時的半年以後,下一次什麼時候\n\n07:45.290 --> 08:02.931\n我們預計我們現在已經就是去年3月去年8月跟今年1月已經公佈那我們預計在今年的6月跟今年的12月會再公佈那個新的這些租這會持續的調整應該不是公格後的最終的版本\n\n08:04.713 --> 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