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00:00:58,995\n的身體權的情況因此判定了刑事訴訟法有關強制採尿的規定是違憲的那麼因此相關機關單位呢必須要修法以符合憲法的規定那所以在這樣的情況之下在我們看到宣判違憲\n\n4\n00:01:00,396 --> 00:01:26,975\n到修法這段時間呢那麼執行的方式大概以非侵入性的方式採取尿液需要報請檢察官核發鑑定許可書後才能夠執行但是如果情況緊迫的時候呢可以依照規定以非侵入性方式來採取尿液但應於採尿後的24小時內呢呈報該這個管的檢察官來許可那檢察官如果認為不應\n\n5\n00:01:28,476 --> 00:01:43,477\n許可者應於三日內來撤銷受檢查者於受採尿液後十天之內申請該管法院來撤銷所以請教三位在這一次的修法是將上述的規範要落法\n\n6\n00:01:45,900 --> 00:02:04,518\n所以入法之後要入法所以請教司法院還有我們的警政單位那麼以及法務部在過去兩年多的執行情況究竟為何那麼對於我們整個在署務上的檢警辦案的影響是什麼因為警察機關跟法務部之間\n\n7\n00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:17,728\n的一個溝通聯繫它是否有即時因為我們認知到保障人權以及維護治安的穩定跟讓檢警辦案的一個狀態它都必須採取到一個平衡點請做說明\n\n8\n00:02:25,298 --> 00:02:47,558\n像那個委員報告齁因為在那個1111那個憲判第16號呢他在判決中其實就這個問題就已經有處理了齁就是說在那個修法之前呢從這個大法官的這個判決公告之後呢就要依這個判決他所所以這兩年多就是照這個來執行嗎是是是好那麼法務部呢\n\n9\n00:02:50,505 --> 00:03:16,168\n這兩年來我們執行就是申請檢察官許可的有一萬兩千兩百五十八件那緊急採釀以後報許可的有六千五百七十八件所以等於一半嘛對一半目前執行是這樣是一半報警檢察官許可那在最後是一半六千多件原因呢這個可能要第一線執行的好來請再說明\n\n10\n00:03:17,885 --> 00:03:36,871\n委員好,那個111年,憲判16號完了以後,警政署就已經訂出一個SOP,函令各全國警察機關按照我們憲判16號來執行也就是說如果他同意,那同意,告訴他他會拒絕,那同意了以後就直接用非侵入性的來採尿\n\n11\n00:03:37,771 --> 00:03:53,042\n那如果不同意的話,我們就報警檢察官,全體可輸那如果說因為檢警共用大概我們目前分配雖然24小時,但我們檢警共用16小時如果他真的不願意,然後時間又緊迫的話那我們就移情到檢察官,讓檢察官回到依他的職權來採尿\n\n12\n00:03:54,583 --> 00:04:14,048\n依照目前的SOP流程今天主要是討論怎麼樣的路法所以我們也希望剛剛我強調了在治安的方面的穩定性以及在執行的方面能夠達到一個平衡點接下來本席要請教上市煙彈也就是毒品問題我們來討論司法院請先回座\n\n13\n00:04:17,569 --> 00:04:35,936\n那這個喪屍煙彈依托彌子持續在國內來盛行去年政府也將它列為二級毒品但是現在的這個新型毒品我一直猖獗所以包括了鎮丙、帕子\n\n14\n00:04:36,736 --> 00:05:00,045\n也已經在流通那企圖要來規避整個法制的法律的一個制裁當然在上個月法務部也緊急召開了審議委員會經過了專家的評估也確認要認為它是高度成癮性與社會的危礙性有火速的決議要列為二級毒品據聞近期要正式公告是嗎已經公告了什麼時候公告的\n\n15\n00:05:07,327 --> 00:05:31,420\n3月24號就前幾天公告那請問市長我們現在面對這些毒販不斷地改版這些新鮮的毒品那我們要怎麼樣應對呢尤其警政署這邊毒物快篩劑以及光譜儀這些設備是不是能夠篩選出新的這些毒品它應對夠不夠\n\n16\n00:05:32,981 --> 00:05:42,667\n因為你必須要設備要充足因為它不斷地在熱血液至少你已經列入二級毒品的部分能不能篩檢出配套措施夠不夠請做說明\n\n17\n00:05:46,261 --> 00:06:12,982\n跟委員報告這個確實新興毒品的試劑對於各個鑑識實驗室來講都是一種挑戰那從去年開始上市驗斷那我們兩個同仁因為被吸毒者撞死了以後然後我們去研究他的盛行率所以我們把從三級提升到二級那證明PARTS的部分也把它列入公告了依據在4月3號大概就會變成二級毒品那這個部分我想\n\n18\n00:06:14,244 --> 00:06:30,385\n我們昨天才通令各全國警察機關包括刑大還有鑑識單位到我們警政署來接受整個試劑的確認測試我們去年大概在警政署的部分我們大概有編訂了300多萬去做快篩試劑\n\n19\n00:06:31,667 --> 00:06:56,261\n但是新興毒品它必須要有專業性選擇性也就是說我們要盡量減少它的偽陽性因為這是初篩而已剛剛委員講的這些除了初篩試劑還有我們像我們實驗室裡面的機器MAS事實上我們都有在編列預算那逐步的那當然現在能量能除了靠公家機關以外可能還是沒辦法去負荷這樣的一個鑑定的能量因為我們因為\n\n20\n00:06:57,222 --> 00:07:12,667\n不管是安慰他命依托彌子等等這些我們都有設定專案的掃蕩所以我們最近才做第12波的案區專案就在我們高檢署你們指揮底下去執行那因為掃蕩了以後就會有大量毒品進來那就很多的一些鑑定的量能\n\n21\n00:07:12,987 --> 00:07:20,453\n必須要監聽那我們高監署也在協助看其他的我們根據全國認證基金會TAF裡面的認證實驗室裡面這些能夠協助我們全國的警察機關因為3月24號也將這個正品帕子\n\n22\n00:07:32,382 --> 00:07:54,457\n也列為二級低頻那下個月就開始要執行所以本席也就提出我知道大家辛苦但是我們既然有這個政策方向我們就要怎麼樣好好的能夠去應對那麼你們應該好好去盤點不管是民間的基金會但大家好好能夠讓我們的社會治安能夠更加的穩定謝謝謝謝主委指導好謝謝楊委員那我們現在\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n9033\t17890\t謝謝主席 楊秋雲發言我們一併邀請司法院 法務部跟警政署好 麻煩三位上台\n22664\t41941\t針對我們今天修法的主題在我們憲法第114年的憲判制第16號判決當中大法官認定刑事訴訟法第205條之二的規定有抵觸憲法保障資訊隱私權以及免於身心受害\n42802\t58995\t的身體權的情況因此判定了刑事訴訟法有關強制採尿的規定是違憲的那麼因此相關機關單位呢必須要修法以符合憲法的規定那所以在這樣的情況之下在我們看到宣判違憲\n60396\t86975\t到修法這段時間呢那麼執行的方式大概以非侵入性的方式採取尿液需要報請檢察官核發鑑定許可書後才能夠執行但是如果情況緊迫的時候呢可以依照規定以非侵入性方式來採取尿液但應於採尿後的24小時內呢呈報該這個管的檢察官來許可那檢察官如果認為不應\n88476\t103477\t許可者應於三日內來撤銷受檢查者於受採尿液後十天之內申請該管法院來撤銷所以請教三位在這一次的修法是將上述的規範要落法\n105900\t124518\t所以入法之後要入法所以請教司法院還有我們的警政單位那麼以及法務部在過去兩年多的執行情況究竟為何那麼對於我們整個在署務上的檢警辦案的影響是什麼因為警察機關跟法務部之間\n127120\t137728\t的一個溝通聯繫它是否有即時因為我們認知到保障人權以及維護治安的穩定跟讓檢警辦案的一個狀態它都必須採取到一個平衡點請做說明\n145298\t167558\t像那個委員報告齁因為在那個1111那個憲判第16號呢他在判決中其實就這個問題就已經有處理了齁就是說在那個修法之前呢從這個大法官的這個判決公告之後呢就要依這個判決他所所以這兩年多就是照這個來執行嗎是是是好那麼法務部呢\n170505\t196168\t這兩年來我們執行就是申請檢察官許可的有一萬兩千兩百五十八件那緊急採釀以後報許可的有六千五百七十八件所以等於一半嘛對 一半目前執行是這樣是一半 報警檢察官許可那在最後是一半六千多件原因呢這個可能要第一線執行的好 來 請再說明\n197885\t216871\t委員好,那個111年,憲判16號完了以後,警政署就已經訂出一個SOP,函令各全國警察機關按照我們憲判16號來執行也就是說如果他同意,那同意,告訴他他會拒絕,那同意了以後就直接用非侵入性的來採尿\n217771\t233042\t那如果不同意的話,我們就報警檢察官,全體可輸那如果說因為檢警共用大概我們目前分配雖然24小時,但我們檢警共用16小時如果他真的不願意,然後時間又緊迫的話那我們就移情到檢察官,讓檢察官回到依他的職權來採尿\n234583\t254048\t依照目前的SOP流程 今天主要是討論怎麼樣的路法所以我們也希望 剛剛我強調了在治安的方面的穩定性以及在執行的方面能夠達到一個平衡點接下來本席要請教上市煙彈 也就是毒品問題 我們來討論司法院請先回座\n257569\t275936\t那這個喪屍煙彈依托彌子持續在國內來盛行去年政府也將它列為二級毒品但是現在的這個新型毒品我一直猖獗所以包括了鎮丙、帕子\n276736\t300045\t也已經在流通那企圖要來規避整個法制的法律的一個制裁當然在上個月法務部也緊急召開了審議委員會經過了專家的評估也確認要認為它是高度成癮性與社會的危礙性有火速的決議要列為二級毒品據聞近期要正式公告 是嗎已經公告了什麼時候公告的\n307327\t331420\t3月24號就前幾天公告那請問市長我們現在面對這些毒販不斷地改版這些新鮮的毒品那我們要怎麼樣應對呢尤其警政署這邊毒物快篩劑以及光譜儀這些設備是不是能夠篩選出新的這些毒品它應對夠不夠\n332981\t342667\t因為你必須要 設備要充足因為它不斷地在熱血液 至少你已經列入二級毒品的部分能不能篩檢出配套措施夠不夠 請做說明\n346261\t372982\t跟委員報告這個確實新興毒品的試劑對於各個鑑識實驗室來講都是一種挑戰那從去年開始上市驗斷那我們兩個同仁因為被吸毒者撞死了以後然後我們去研究他的盛行率所以我們把從三級提升到二級那證明PARTS的部分也把它列入公告了依據在4月3號大概就會變成二級毒品那這個部分我想\n374244\t390385\t我們昨天才通令各全國警察機關包括刑大還有鑑識單位到我們警政署來接受整個試劑的確認測試我們去年大概在警政署的部分我們大概有編訂了300多萬去做快篩試劑\n391667\t416261\t但是新興毒品它必須要有專業性選擇性也就是說我們要盡量減少它的偽陽性因為這是初篩而已剛剛委員講的這些除了初篩試劑還有我們像我們實驗室裡面的機器MAS事實上我們都有在編列預算那逐步的那當然現在能量能除了靠公家機關以外可能還是沒辦法去負荷這樣的一個鑑定的能量因為我們因為\n417222\t432667\t不管是安慰他命依托彌子等等這些我們都有設定專案的掃蕩所以我們最近才做第12波的案區專案就在我們高檢署你們指揮底下去執行那因為掃蕩了以後就會有大量毒品進來那就很多的一些鑑定的量能\n432987\t440453\t必須要監聽那我們高監署也在協助看其他的我們根據全國認證基金會TAF裡面的認證實驗室裡面這些能夠協助我們全國的警察機關因為3月24號也將這個正品帕子\n452382\t474457\t也列為二級低頻那下個月就開始要執行所以本席也就提出我知道大家辛苦但是我們既然有這個政策方向我們就要怎麼樣好好的能夠去應對那麼你們應該好好去盤點不管是民間的基金會但大家好好能夠讓我們的社會治安能夠更加的穩定謝謝謝謝主委 指導好 謝謝楊委員那我們現在\n","txt":"謝謝主席 楊秋雲發言我們一併邀請司法院 法務部跟警政署好 麻煩三位上台\n針對我們今天修法的主題在我們憲法第114年的憲判制第16號判決當中大法官認定刑事訴訟法第205條之二的規定有抵觸憲法保障資訊隱私權以及免於身心受害\n的身體權的情況因此判定了刑事訴訟法有關強制採尿的規定是違憲的那麼因此相關機關單位呢必須要修法以符合憲法的規定那所以在這樣的情況之下在我們看到宣判違憲\n到修法這段時間呢那麼執行的方式大概以非侵入性的方式採取尿液需要報請檢察官核發鑑定許可書後才能夠執行但是如果情況緊迫的時候呢可以依照規定以非侵入性方式來採取尿液但應於採尿後的24小時內呢呈報該這個管的檢察官來許可那檢察官如果認為不應\n許可者應於三日內來撤銷受檢查者於受採尿液後十天之內申請該管法院來撤銷所以請教三位在這一次的修法是將上述的規範要落法\n所以入法之後要入法所以請教司法院還有我們的警政單位那麼以及法務部在過去兩年多的執行情況究竟為何那麼對於我們整個在署務上的檢警辦案的影響是什麼因為警察機關跟法務部之間\n的一個溝通聯繫它是否有即時因為我們認知到保障人權以及維護治安的穩定跟讓檢警辦案的一個狀態它都必須採取到一個平衡點請做說明\n像那個委員報告齁因為在那個1111那個憲判第16號呢他在判決中其實就這個問題就已經有處理了齁就是說在那個修法之前呢從這個大法官的這個判決公告之後呢就要依這個判決他所所以這兩年多就是照這個來執行嗎是是是好那麼法務部呢\n這兩年來我們執行就是申請檢察官許可的有一萬兩千兩百五十八件那緊急採釀以後報許可的有六千五百七十八件所以等於一半嘛對 一半目前執行是這樣是一半 報警檢察官許可那在最後是一半六千多件原因呢這個可能要第一線執行的好 來 請再說明\n委員好,那個111年,憲判16號完了以後,警政署就已經訂出一個SOP,函令各全國警察機關按照我們憲判16號來執行也就是說如果他同意,那同意,告訴他他會拒絕,那同意了以後就直接用非侵入性的來採尿\n那如果不同意的話,我們就報警檢察官,全體可輸那如果說因為檢警共用大概我們目前分配雖然24小時,但我們檢警共用16小時如果他真的不願意,然後時間又緊迫的話那我們就移情到檢察官,讓檢察官回到依他的職權來採尿\n依照目前的SOP流程 今天主要是討論怎麼樣的路法所以我們也希望 剛剛我強調了在治安的方面的穩定性以及在執行的方面能夠達到一個平衡點接下來本席要請教上市煙彈 也就是毒品問題 我們來討論司法院請先回座\n那這個喪屍煙彈依托彌子持續在國內來盛行去年政府也將它列為二級毒品但是現在的這個新型毒品我一直猖獗所以包括了鎮丙、帕子\n也已經在流通那企圖要來規避整個法制的法律的一個制裁當然在上個月法務部也緊急召開了審議委員會經過了專家的評估也確認要認為它是高度成癮性與社會的危礙性有火速的決議要列為二級毒品據聞近期要正式公告 是嗎已經公告了什麼時候公告的\n3月24號就前幾天公告那請問市長我們現在面對這些毒販不斷地改版這些新鮮的毒品那我們要怎麼樣應對呢尤其警政署這邊毒物快篩劑以及光譜儀這些設備是不是能夠篩選出新的這些毒品它應對夠不夠\n因為你必須要 設備要充足因為它不斷地在熱血液 至少你已經列入二級毒品的部分能不能篩檢出配套措施夠不夠 請做說明\n跟委員報告這個確實新興毒品的試劑對於各個鑑識實驗室來講都是一種挑戰那從去年開始上市驗斷那我們兩個同仁因為被吸毒者撞死了以後然後我們去研究他的盛行率所以我們把從三級提升到二級那證明PARTS的部分也把它列入公告了依據在4月3號大概就會變成二級毒品那這個部分我想\n我們昨天才通令各全國警察機關包括刑大還有鑑識單位到我們警政署來接受整個試劑的確認測試我們去年大概在警政署的部分我們大概有編訂了300多萬去做快篩試劑\n但是新興毒品它必須要有專業性選擇性也就是說我們要盡量減少它的偽陽性因為這是初篩而已剛剛委員講的這些除了初篩試劑還有我們像我們實驗室裡面的機器MAS事實上我們都有在編列預算那逐步的那當然現在能量能除了靠公家機關以外可能還是沒辦法去負荷這樣的一個鑑定的能量因為我們因為\n不管是安慰他命依托彌子等等這些我們都有設定專案的掃蕩所以我們最近才做第12波的案區專案就在我們高檢署你們指揮底下去執行那因為掃蕩了以後就會有大量毒品進來那就很多的一些鑑定的量能\n必須要監聽那我們高監署也在協助看其他的我們根據全國認證基金會TAF裡面的認證實驗室裡面這些能夠協助我們全國的警察機關因為3月24號也將這個正品帕子\n也列為二級低頻那下個月就開始要執行所以本席也就提出我知道大家辛苦但是我們既然有這個政策方向我們就要怎麼樣好好的能夠去應對那麼你們應該好好去盤點不管是民間的基金會但大家好好能夠讓我們的社會治安能夠更加的穩定謝謝謝謝主委 指導好 謝謝楊委員那我們現在\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:09.033 --> 00:17.890\n謝謝主席楊秋雲發言我們一併邀請司法院法務部跟警政署好麻煩三位上台\n\n00:22.664 --> 00:41.941\n針對我們今天修法的主題在我們憲法第114年的憲判制第16號判決當中大法官認定刑事訴訟法第205條之二的規定有抵觸憲法保障資訊隱私權以及免於身心受害\n\n00:42.802 --> 00:58.995\n的身體權的情況因此判定了刑事訴訟法有關強制採尿的規定是違憲的那麼因此相關機關單位呢必須要修法以符合憲法的規定那所以在這樣的情況之下在我們看到宣判違憲\n\n01:00.396 --> 01:26.975\n到修法這段時間呢那麼執行的方式大概以非侵入性的方式採取尿液需要報請檢察官核發鑑定許可書後才能夠執行但是如果情況緊迫的時候呢可以依照規定以非侵入性方式來採取尿液但應於採尿後的24小時內呢呈報該這個管的檢察官來許可那檢察官如果認為不應\n\n01:28.476 --> 01:43.477\n許可者應於三日內來撤銷受檢查者於受採尿液後十天之內申請該管法院來撤銷所以請教三位在這一次的修法是將上述的規範要落法\n\n01:45.900 --> 02:04.518\n所以入法之後要入法所以請教司法院還有我們的警政單位那麼以及法務部在過去兩年多的執行情況究竟為何那麼對於我們整個在署務上的檢警辦案的影響是什麼因為警察機關跟法務部之間\n\n02:07.120 --> 02:17.728\n的一個溝通聯繫它是否有即時因為我們認知到保障人權以及維護治安的穩定跟讓檢警辦案的一個狀態它都必須採取到一個平衡點請做說明\n\n02:25.298 --> 02:47.558\n像那個委員報告齁因為在那個1111那個憲判第16號呢他在判決中其實就這個問題就已經有處理了齁就是說在那個修法之前呢從這個大法官的這個判決公告之後呢就要依這個判決他所所以這兩年多就是照這個來執行嗎是是是好那麼法務部呢\n\n02:50.505 --> 03:16.168\n這兩年來我們執行就是申請檢察官許可的有一萬兩千兩百五十八件那緊急採釀以後報許可的有六千五百七十八件所以等於一半嘛對一半目前執行是這樣是一半報警檢察官許可那在最後是一半六千多件原因呢這個可能要第一線執行的好來請再說明\n\n03:17.885 --> 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