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00:02:44,088\n這些風險的情境不只是戰爭更重要就是我們當我們遇到一些砸害的時候我們必須要去處理而且不只是稻米所以好所以按照就是部長您的說法就說其實台灣跟現在大陸關係沒有那麼緊張這個發生戰爭的風險不高\n\n9\n00:02:49,671 --> 00:03:10,952\n所以我們的糧食安全的準備會根據不同的風險去做相關的因應措施然後這些風險除了戰爭以外可能的引起以外還有一些天然災害還有一些重大災害所造成的影響\n\n10\n00:03:11,653 --> 00:03:14,554\n那這個部分我想我們都會有一些準備當然我們現在要講那個極端的狀況就是除了就是發生天然災害之外這是不可測的那麼另外就是萬一有緊急發生這個戰爭的狀況的時候到底農糧署的準備如何\n\n11\n00:03:27,239 --> 00:03:42,709\n依照現在經濟部所定班的民生必需品短缺時期的配給配售辦法裡面其實各個縣市政府都應該要開設配售站來實施這個10米的配售作業請問一下部長現在供應站配售站\n\n12\n00:03:43,650 --> 00:04:06,304\n有沒有你們已經有規劃了相關的設置地點嗎我想我們從我們的公糧倉庫到到所有的配售站到配售的發放站其實我們這個部分其實有一個非常完整的規劃而且我們也做相關的演練去做這樣的一個情況所以你們這些配售站有公告相關地點有讓民眾現在就知道你們的規劃嗎我們現在是應該還沒有\n\n13\n00:04:10,026 --> 00:04:19,839\n沒有我們公糧的處所跟它的配售站我們現在都有充分的掌握但是相對的就是說地方政府是主要的配售站各個地方\n\n14\n00:04:20,902 --> 00:04:42,837\n各個地方的政府那各個地方政府會根據他離距離公糧的距離他會去做設置這是屬於各個地方政府要做的事情嗎難道我們依照這個辦法裡面看起來應該是不是所有的東西都是中央跟地方一起合作的那相對的配售的部分絕對不是中央直接去配售然後去發送所以我們會跟地方政府合作\n\n15\n00:04:43,637 --> 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