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628.734, \"end\": 628.754, \"score\": 0.514}], \"language\": \"zh\"}","srt":"1\n00:00:04,315 --> 00:00:04,555\n郭文貴議員\n\n2\n00:00:13,732 --> 00:00:38,911\n部長辛苦了我想這個文化是最重要的國家軟實力我們以英國為例就是他們從兒童節目一直到影音的作品或者是從體育賽事一直到所謂的流行音樂甚至到美術或者是藝術甚至歷史的一些展館在在的都看到英國他們發展最重要的一個軟實力其實就是國力的象徵就是我們的文化\n\n3\n00:00:39,491 --> 00:00:59,037\n但是很遺憾我們看到了我們的文化部的預算照正常來講其實文化部的預算是佔中央的總預算比例通常都不到1%其實對我們來講其實已經不是那麼的多了那我們剛剛一直聽到就是文化部我們希望說文化能夠向下扎根\n\n4\n00:00:59,577 --> 00:01:17,792\n能夠往外擴展然後甚至國際的一些交流但是我相信大家都已經經歷過就是在預算會期的時候我們文化部的預算被大幅的煽動那我舉個例子來講比方說煽動的有這個同山的部分是有水電費\n\n5\n00:01:18,573 --> 00:01:24,981\n委辦費、特別費等等那另外呢在媒體宣傳5943萬是全數被刪除所以剛剛其實關於雅琳委員在提到說比方說黃牛我們要如何去宣導\n\n6\n00:01:34,153 --> 00:02:02,585\n要加強宣導但這個部分我們的預算是整體被刪除那更不用講可能有一些預算的煽動也會影響到地方文化的發展藝文產業的發展甚至文化資產的保存還有我剛剛所提的我們要往外擴展我有聽到部長有說今年其實我們要到大阪去拓展台灣的一個文化像這個部分在國際交流的部分也因為預算的煽動\n\n7\n00:02:04,110 --> 00:02:18,982\n也可能會受到一些影響對嗎是那部長有什麼樣的因應的方法嗎其實我們就會想說如果沒宣費如果把我們全部刪除的話我們就想\n\n8\n00:02:20,445 --> 00:02:43,387\n對我來講我就會反而去找多一個可以做網路梗圖的人想辦法去克服但是對我們同仁來講真的蠻辛苦尤其是他那個沒宣費不能再用的時候我們活動非常多剛才提到水電其實很多單位如果不解凍的話到六七月之後就真的沒水沒電了\n\n9\n00:02:44,148 --> 00:03:09,386\n甚至像今年其實大家眾所矚目在大阪現在已經開始的這個萬國博覽會它的推廣或者是說我們剛剛講到這個文化幣等等或者是閱讀推廣等等所有的一個活動也可能會被迫中斷或者是有重大的影響我想呢這個一直過去到現在我們看到國民黨的委員把影視文化業者當成是要飯的那已經\n\n10\n00:03:12,128 --> 00:03:20,401\n把所有的台灣影視文化人都激怒了那不是只有影視文化的部分甚至民間藝術團體也紛紛針對文化的預算被刪減都已經站出來包含動漫公會\n\n11\n00:03:27,752 --> 00:03:45,389\n包含視覺藝術界還有出版業者還有書店等等我想呢不曉得他們有沒有聽到這樣的聲音喔那我想針對藝文產業其實它是一個高度依賴中央的政府補助喔那也因為我們的預算被煽動也有可能會沒辦法\n\n12\n00:03:49,452 --> 00:04:11,687\n好好的來讓藝文工作者他們的生計有所維持但是我今天剛剛有突然聽到了一絲的希望看到了一絲的曙光因為我們知道現在所有立法院的遊戲規則已經開始有點被更改了我不知道原來解凍可以這麼的快速也許從現在我們可以快速通關我們來聽一下好不好大文化部書面報告送進來這些錢\n\n13\n00:04:19,394 --> 00:04:20,445\n立刻就可以使用\n\n14\n00:04:23,413 --> 00:04:43,001\n我好開心欸是真的嗎因為他是我們教育文化的另外一位召委那我想如果有他這句話那我們可以往這個方向前進那我相信文化部解凍這個預算上的解凍或者是我們在才化法當中的這些可能會被影響的一些地方文化的產業可能就有那麼一絲被救贖的曙光\n\n15\n00:04:50,168 --> 00:05:06,898\n好接下來我想要問一下就是其實剛剛也有很多我們的委員也在提到這個陸配的雅雅的案子其實是個前天大家軒然大波但是在更之前呢其實有台灣的演藝人員他在自己的這個平台上面\n\n16\n00:05:07,758 --> 00:05:29,100\n發表了矮化台灣主權相關的關於台灣省中國台灣省這樣子的一個不當的一個言論那成為這個威權統治的一個宣傳的工具我想呢身為藝人身為公眾人物其實我們都有一些道德的責任在那我們也會有一些所謂的社會的影響力\n\n17\n00:05:30,041 --> 00:05:37,243\n當他們利用自己的平台附中去做演藝表演的同時我們這個時候文化部應該要怎麼樣的嚴加的管理或者是輔導那麼當然我們有一個台灣藝人附中發展注意事項那目前這個執行的方法我們可能還不是非常的清楚到底應該要如何的來執行那對於台灣藝人附中去表演\n\n18\n00:05:56,147 --> 00:06:12,390\n但如何不會踩到所謂的政治的紅線這個部分是不是我想要再聽一下部長您怎麼說好其實我們原來的一些規定都不會針對某一個人去做出任何處分\n\n19\n00:06:13,231 --> 00:06:27,749\n但是我現在發現這個東西如果是一個文化滲透或者它是一個有計畫的在做的話作為文化部我們就要進一步去做出一些更具體的一些規範譬如說你去了中國大陸\n\n20\n00:06:28,570 --> 00:06:48,927\n你的商業行為背後有沒有條件是要做一些誣蔑台灣的言論才會產生這個商業行為或者是你背後有交易我們要對這個事情要做行政了解包括經濟公司我們要了解如果一旦知道他有這些行為或者他根本就有中國的\n\n21\n00:06:49,928 --> 00:07:12,977\n那個戶籍的話我們可以針對我們台灣我們至少可以保護我們台灣的一些譬如說他來申請輔導或者我們可以前面先知道他有沒有做這些事情或者事後知道我可以追回我的輔導金追回我的補助就我們要做一些比較更具體的一些行為但是這一切的一切都不表示我們不尊重這個言論自由\n\n22\n00:07:14,918 --> 00:07:37,312\n好不論如何我們希望這個管理辦法或者是我們再更具體的一些這個管理的一個規範要出來啦那我們才能夠去執行這就有點像是兩岸人民關係條例當中我們一直強調就是公職人員其實你要附中你要報告是一樣的意思身為藝人一樣也有這樣子的一個重要的影響力喔我們不要淪為被統戰的一個工具啦\n\n23\n00:07:38,152 --> 00:08:03,393\n好那因為今天時間有限接著下一題我想要問一下下的就是關於我們的台灣Plus我想台灣Plus經過了半年的這樣子的一個時間從才半年就已經有五次非常重大的一個疏失那不管是對於文化的敏感度不足或者是對於所謂的涉及語言上的標示的錯誤或者是政治的立場的偏頗\n\n24\n00:08:04,761 --> 00:08:29,688\n台灣Plus的宗旨應該是要讓全世界看到台灣但是問題是在專業度不夠嚴謹的一個狀況之下其實他們已經出現了好幾次的缺失台灣Plus的問題什麼時候可以真正的由內部的控管來管理這些所謂他們在做新聞報導的時候的橫平性這個也是我\n\n25\n00:08:30,388 --> 00:08:59,111\n辦公室一直不斷的在追的這一個題目這個部分部長怎麼看其實台灣plus它的從產生到現在的確在組織上的管理跟那個結構其實是蠻有問題的所以最近台灣plus本身公共電視已經成立一個調查一個很中立的調查團針對整個過去到現在它的組織跟人力因為我了解幕前幕後\n\n26\n00:08:59,471 --> 00:09:13,531\n尤其是在幕後的後製其實台灣Plus要做橫頻的報導是非常非常的快速是可以投入在幕後也就是說我的片子就算已經上架出去但是我事後可以來做\n\n27\n00:09:14,774 --> 00:09:36,440\n嚴重嚴格的一個補救的一個方式這個是可以快速再上架再讓他重新上架但目前為止其實光是這幾次的整個所有的爭議當中尤其是在三月份這兩次這樣子的一個個案我到目前為止還沒有看到補救的方法在哪裡是不是可以請Tarantulas來跟我說一下\n\n28\n00:09:39,516 --> 00:09:54,134\n因為我們最近已經接受這個調查的建議以後我們開始做比較強化的改變最主要原因是因為本國籍同仁在編輯的過程當中要讓他更介入更投入在整個編裁流程的管控\n\n29\n00:09:54,614 --> 00:10:22,321\n那過往我們當然是尊重外籍同仁對英語報導內容製作上的一些專業跟經驗尊重不代表沒有管制喔是但我想本國籍同仁的管制還有新聞部主管的這個審核機制已經建立更好的方法我們在這個月已經啟動我想橫頻的去報導不要有偏頗的政治的立場去報導這些所謂的爭議的報導的影片的同時其實這個部分內部你們真的要嚴加的\n\n30\n00:10:23,061 --> 00:10:28,754\n好好的來做管理好嗎?是,我們會努力改進好,以上謝謝部長,謝謝主席\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n4315\t4555\t郭文貴議員\n13732\t38911\t部長辛苦了我想這個文化是最重要的國家軟實力我們以英國為例就是他們從兒童節目一直到影音的作品或者是從體育賽事一直到所謂的流行音樂甚至到美術或者是藝術甚至歷史的一些展館在在的都看到英國他們發展最重要的一個軟實力其實就是國力的象徵就是我們的文化\n39491\t59037\t但是很遺憾我們看到了我們的文化部的預算照正常來講其實文化部的預算是佔中央的總預算比例通常都不到1%其實對我們來講其實已經不是那麼的多了那我們剛剛一直聽到就是文化部我們希望說文化能夠向下扎根\n59577\t77792\t能夠往外擴展然後甚至國際的一些交流但是我相信大家都已經經歷過就是在預算會期的時候我們文化部的預算被大幅的煽動那我舉個例子來講比方說煽動的有這個同山的部分是有水電費\n78573\t84981\t委辦費、特別費等等那另外呢在媒體宣傳5943萬是全數被刪除所以剛剛其實關於雅琳委員在提到說比方說黃牛我們要如何去宣導\n94153\t122585\t要加強宣導但這個部分我們的預算是整體被刪除那更不用講可能有一些預算的煽動也會影響到地方文化的發展藝文產業的發展甚至文化資產的保存還有我剛剛所提的我們要往外擴展我有聽到部長有說今年其實我們要到大阪去拓展台灣的一個文化像這個部分在國際交流的部分也因為預算的煽動\n124110\t138982\t也可能會受到一些影響 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接下來我想要問一下就是其實剛剛也有很多我們的委員也在提到這個陸配的雅雅的案子其實是個前天大家軒然大波但是在更之前呢其實有台灣的演藝人員他在自己的這個平台上面\n307758\t329100\t發表了矮化台灣主權相關的關於台灣省中國台灣省這樣子的一個不當的一個言論那成為這個威權統治的一個宣傳的工具我想呢身為藝人身為公眾人物其實我們都有一些道德的責任在那我們也會有一些所謂的社會的影響力\n330041\t337243\t當他們利用自己的平台附中去做演藝表演的同時我們這個時候文化部應該要怎麼樣的嚴加的管理或者是輔導那麼當然我們有一個台灣藝人附中發展注意事項那目前這個執行的方法我們可能還不是非常的清楚到底應該要如何的來執行那對於台灣藝人附中去表演\n356147\t372390\t但如何不會踩到所謂的政治的紅線這個部分是不是我想要再聽一下部長您怎麼說好其實我們原來的一些規定都不會針對某一個人去做出任何處分\n373231\t387749\t但是我現在發現這個東西如果是一個文化滲透或者它是一個有計畫的在做的話作為文化部我們就要進一步去做出一些更具體的一些規範譬如說你去了中國大陸\n388570\t408927\t你的商業行為背後有沒有條件是要做一些誣蔑台灣的言論才會產生這個商業行為或者是你背後有交易我們要對這個事情要做行政了解包括經濟公司我們要了解如果一旦知道他有這些行為或者他根本就有中國的\n409928\t432977\t那個戶籍的話我們可以針對我們台灣我們至少可以保護我們台灣的一些譬如說他來申請輔導或者我們可以前面先知道他有沒有做這些事情或者事後知道我可以追回我的輔導金追回我的補助就我們要做一些比較更具體的一些行為但是這一切的一切都不表示我們不尊重這個言論自由\n434918\t457312\t好 不論如何我們希望這個管理辦法或者是我們再更具體的一些這個管理的一個規範要出來啦那我們才能夠去執行這就有點像是兩岸人民關係條例當中我們一直強調就是公職人員其實你要附中你要報告是一樣的意思身為藝人一樣也有這樣子的一個重要的影響力喔我們不要淪為被統戰的一個工具啦\n458152\t483393\t好 那因為今天時間有限接著下一題我想要問一下下的就是關於我們的台灣Plus我想台灣Plus經過了半年的這樣子的一個時間從才半年就已經有五次非常重大的一個疏失那不管是對於文化的敏感度不足或者是對於所謂的涉及語言上的標示的錯誤或者是政治的立場的偏頗\n484761\t509688\t台灣Plus的宗旨應該是要讓全世界看到台灣但是問題是在專業度不夠嚴謹的一個狀況之下其實他們已經出現了好幾次的缺失台灣Plus的問題什麼時候可以真正的由內部的控管來管理這些所謂他們在做新聞報導的時候的橫平性這個也是我\n510388\t539111\t辦公室一直不斷的在追的這一個題目這個部分部長怎麼看其實台灣plus它的從產生到現在的確在組織上的管理跟那個結構其實是蠻有問題的所以最近台灣plus本身公共電視已經成立一個調查一個很中立的調查團針對整個過去到現在它的組織跟人力因為我了解幕前幕後\n539471\t553531\t尤其是在幕後的後製其實台灣Plus要做橫頻的報導是非常非常的快速是可以投入在幕後也就是說我的片子就算已經上架出去但是我事後可以來做\n554774\t576440\t嚴重嚴格的一個補救的一個方式這個是可以快速再上架再讓他重新上架但目前為止其實光是這幾次的整個所有的爭議當中尤其是在三月份這兩次這樣子的一個個案我到目前為止還沒有看到補救的方法在哪裡是不是可以請Tarantulas來跟我說一下\n579516\t594134\t因為我們最近已經接受這個調查的建議以後我們開始做比較強化的改變最主要原因是因為本國籍同仁在編輯的過程當中要讓他更介入更投入在整個編裁流程的管控\n594614\t622321\t那過往我們當然是尊重外籍同仁對英語報導內容製作上的一些專業跟經驗尊重不代表沒有管制喔是 但我想本國籍同仁的管制還有新聞部主管的這個審核機制已經建立更好的方法我們在這個月已經啟動我想 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對嗎是那部長有什麼樣的因應的方法嗎其實我們就會想說如果沒宣費如果把我們全部刪除的話我們就想\n對我來講我就會反而去找多一個可以做網路梗圖的人想辦法去克服但是對我們同仁來講真的蠻辛苦尤其是他那個沒宣費不能再用的時候我們活動非常多剛才提到水電其實很多單位如果不解凍的話到六七月之後就真的沒水沒電了\n甚至像今年其實大家眾所矚目在大阪現在已經開始的這個萬國博覽會它的推廣或者是說我們剛剛講到這個文化幣等等或者是閱讀推廣等等所有的一個活動也可能會被迫中斷或者是有重大的影響我想呢這個一直過去到現在我們看到國民黨的委員把影視文化業者當成是要飯的那已經\n把所有的台灣影視文化人都激怒了那不是只有影視文化的部分甚至民間藝術團體也紛紛針對文化的預算被刪減都已經站出來包含動漫公會\n包含視覺藝術界還有出版業者還有書店等等我想呢不曉得他們有沒有聽到這樣的聲音喔那我想針對藝文產業其實它是一個高度依賴中央的政府補助喔那也因為我們的預算被煽動也有可能會沒辦法\n好好的來讓藝文工作者他們的生計有所維持但是我今天剛剛有突然聽到了一絲的希望看到了一絲的曙光因為我們知道現在所有立法院的遊戲規則已經開始有點被更改了我不知道原來解凍可以這麼的快速也許從現在我們可以快速通關我們來聽一下好不好大文化部書面報告送進來這些錢\n立刻就可以使用\n我好開心欸是真的嗎因為他是我們教育文化的另外一位召委那我想如果有他這句話那我們可以往這個方向前進那我相信文化部解凍這個預算上的解凍或者是我們在才化法當中的這些可能會被影響的一些地方文化的產業可能就有那麼一絲被救贖的曙光\n好 接下來我想要問一下就是其實剛剛也有很多我們的委員也在提到這個陸配的雅雅的案子其實是個前天大家軒然大波但是在更之前呢其實有台灣的演藝人員他在自己的這個平台上面\n發表了矮化台灣主權相關的關於台灣省中國台灣省這樣子的一個不當的一個言論那成為這個威權統治的一個宣傳的工具我想呢身為藝人身為公眾人物其實我們都有一些道德的責任在那我們也會有一些所謂的社會的影響力\n當他們利用自己的平台附中去做演藝表演的同時我們這個時候文化部應該要怎麼樣的嚴加的管理或者是輔導那麼當然我們有一個台灣藝人附中發展注意事項那目前這個執行的方法我們可能還不是非常的清楚到底應該要如何的來執行那對於台灣藝人附中去表演\n但如何不會踩到所謂的政治的紅線這個部分是不是我想要再聽一下部長您怎麼說好其實我們原來的一些規定都不會針對某一個人去做出任何處分\n但是我現在發現這個東西如果是一個文化滲透或者它是一個有計畫的在做的話作為文化部我們就要進一步去做出一些更具體的一些規範譬如說你去了中國大陸\n你的商業行為背後有沒有條件是要做一些誣蔑台灣的言論才會產生這個商業行為或者是你背後有交易我們要對這個事情要做行政了解包括經濟公司我們要了解如果一旦知道他有這些行為或者他根本就有中國的\n那個戶籍的話我們可以針對我們台灣我們至少可以保護我們台灣的一些譬如說他來申請輔導或者我們可以前面先知道他有沒有做這些事情或者事後知道我可以追回我的輔導金追回我的補助就我們要做一些比較更具體的一些行為但是這一切的一切都不表示我們不尊重這個言論自由\n好 不論如何我們希望這個管理辦法或者是我們再更具體的一些這個管理的一個規範要出來啦那我們才能夠去執行這就有點像是兩岸人民關係條例當中我們一直強調就是公職人員其實你要附中你要報告是一樣的意思身為藝人一樣也有這樣子的一個重要的影響力喔我們不要淪為被統戰的一個工具啦\n好 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