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00:02:00,896\n111年也是一樣這個整個不足而入企55名那土木工程17名當然還有其他的這個列科三等這土木工程是不足而17名四等土木工程不足而16名當然還有其他的相關的列科112年\n\n5\n00:02:03,157 --> 00:02:32,199\n又更增加入企不足77名其中四等的這個土木工程11名當然這個前面的相關三等的也是一樣土木工程21名21名113年去年這個入企不足79名又更增加\n\n6\n00:02:33,679 --> 00:02:57,461\n這個相關的這些無論是財稅行政經濟行政農業行政農業技術而最多的還是土木工程27米這是三等的部分四等的部分這個土木工程14米不足所以在這樣的一個情況之下\n\n7\n00:02:59,226 --> 00:03:28,521\n我們看這個從110年111、112、113不足額57、55、77、79當然今年還會繼續來辦理因應這樣的部分我們先談這個你的業務報告裡面有提到考檢部的報告裡面特別提到因應土木工程列科看起來不是只有原住民的課特考\n\n8\n00:03:29,588 --> 00:03:36,918\n看起來是其他的考試高普考或是這個其他的特考\n\n9\n00:03:39,023 --> 00:03:57,558\n這個部長,這樣的因應能夠解決嗎?是,跟委員報告,我們非常重視這個原民特考目前特別是在幾個類科,嚴重的那個不足耳的問題其實下個月,我們就會有副院長跟我們那個E1委員會帶領我們去跟\n\n10\n00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:16,082\n原民會特別來討論商討這個議題那跟委員報告目前我們大概盤點出來有幾個問題或說有幾個議題要處理第一件事情是其實我們大概在剛剛那個他曾經有一個原因讓\n\n11\n00:04:17,281 --> 00:04:40,134\n我們整個的報考人數大概減少了直接減少了一半我們原來的報考人數大概2000多那那個原因是因為足以認證那我覺得足以認證是非常重要的改革但是可能要增加足以認證的考試的頻率還有可以增加那部分的訓練的那個強度讓更多的人可以來報考這是我覺得可能第一個要處理\n\n12\n00:04:41,135 --> 00:05:02,647\n那第二個是我們類科是有集中在財經還有土木還有農業這部分可能非常需要特別是東部的大學能不能在這邊能夠多一些可以來培育人才的學程或者甚至是系所出現目前看起來有這幾個地方可能要來強化看能不能解決這些議題\n\n13\n00:05:05,385 --> 00:05:27,635\n第一個先談因為你主動提到主語認證事實上主語認證的部分這個考選部一開始提的一開始你們提的規劃這個四等五等四等三等全部都要終極經過協調之後你們同意先從初級\n\n14\n00:05:31,371 --> 00:05:55,567\n那現在改為中級這個部分當然你們可以提供數字是因為這個嗎因為你提到了所以我不認為啦但是你既然提到了你是不是提供一個數據給我們是我們可以提供數字是因為他沒有這個部分所以他就沒有辦法去報考這個是提供一個數字請提供第二個很重要的\n\n15\n00:05:57,469 --> 00:06:22,459\n我們就先講土木土木工程看起來不是只有原住民特考而原住民非常需要因為原鄉的部分更需要包括公路總局他們在原鄉的部分更需要第一個這涉及到整個考試院的政策對於土木工程的待遇是不是需要去檢討為什麼呢\n\n16\n00:06:25,464 --> 00:06:51,852\n因為現在缺工一般事業民間的也都缺在這樣的情況之下他們的待遇就會增加當然他就不會去選擇公務機關你們也可以去調查公務機關一般的公務機關他考上了進去沒多久他就離開了\n\n17\n00:06:53,306 --> 00:07:21,463\n這個就是可能跟待遇有關係我的了解是這樣這是第一個第二個原住民的部分我們就從原住民的部分怎麼樣去協調相關的部會譬如說這個相關的部會怎麼樣去辦這個我們還是有我們的鄉親還是願意去考啊但是就考不上啊對不對不足的路程是考不上有報名\n\n18\n00:07:22,674 --> 00:07:41,148\n考不上第一個是不是怎樣協助他考得上第二個就是是不是考得太難也要跟典事委員去評估去了解還是未來透過訓練先讓他進去加強訓練這都是一個解決的途徑好不好這個議題是蠻大的議題好不好\n\n19\n00:07:49,873 --> 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好不好\n469873\t484506\t我們會來主要是我們現在有一個教考訓練平台的確跟人總然後跟行政院那邊可能剛剛委員講的問題都會列入來討論好謝謝好謝謝那我們下一位請鄭正前\n","txt":"主席有請考選部部長麻煩部長委員長部長好還有我們秘書長還有所有的考試院的官員我們看這個原住民行政特考這個人數逐年的減少而且這個減少的幅度相當的大\n這個原住民行政特考從國民政府時代就開始一直是我們原住民就業的一個很重要的一個機會之一當然對原鄉對地方政府來說也是一個非常重要的一個相關的服務的一個場域\n我們看110年公務人員特種考是延民特考這個入企不足額57名那其中最多的土木工程以三等的話15個名額然後這個四等土木工程也是不足額14個名額這個人數相當的多\n111年也是一樣這個整個不足而入企55名那土木工程17名當然還有其他的這個列科三等這土木工程是不足而17名四等土木工程不足而16名當然還有其他的相關的列科112年\n又更增加入企不足77名其中四等的這個土木工程11名當然這個前面的相關三等的也是一樣土木工程21名21名113年去年這個入企不足79名又更增加\n這個相關的這些無論是財稅行政經濟行政農業行政農業技術而最多的還是土木工程27米這是三等的部分四等的部分這個土木工程14米不足所以在這樣的一個情況之下\n我們看這個從110年111、112、113不足額57、55、77、79當然今年還會繼續來辦理因應這樣的部分我們先談這個你的業務報告裡面有提到考檢部的報告裡面特別提到因應土木工程列科看起來不是只有原住民的課特考\n看起來是其他的考試高普考或是這個其他的特考\n這個部長,這樣的因應能夠解決嗎?是,跟委員報告,我們非常重視這個原民特考目前特別是在幾個類科,嚴重的那個不足耳的問題其實下個月,我們就會有副院長跟我們那個E1委員會帶領我們去跟\n原民會特別來討論商討這個議題那跟委員報告目前我們大概盤點出來有幾個問題或說有幾個議題要處理第一件事情是其實我們大概在剛剛那個他曾經有一個原因讓\n我們整個的報考人數大概減少了直接減少了一半我們原來的報考人數大概2000多那那個原因是因為足以認證那我覺得足以認證是非常重要的改革但是可能要增加足以認證的考試的頻率還有可以增加那部分的訓練的那個強度讓更多的人可以來報考這是我覺得可能第一個要處理\n那第二個是我們類科是有集中在財經還有土木還有農業這部分可能非常需要特別是東部的大學能不能在這邊能夠多一些可以來培育人才的學程或者甚至是系所出現目前看起來有這幾個地方可能要來強化看能不能解決這些議題\n第一個先談因為你主動提到主語認證事實上主語認證的部分這個考選部一開始提的一開始你們提的規劃這個四等五等四等三等全部都要終極經過協調之後你們同意先從初級\n那現在改為中級這個部分當然你們可以提供數字是因為這個嗎 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