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00:02:36,186\n那為什麼呢因為當然是可能就衝著馬斯克來馬斯克現在是川普的重要的幫手啦那越南的部分呢他是會降低部分的產業的關稅那我想問一下部長我們現在的因應之道是什麼\n\n8\n00:02:38,736 --> 00:02:55,829\n對於川普政府這邊的相關的一些關稅策略其實我們都有密切的關注那也有跨部會的會議在行政院有一個經貿工作小組做密切的討論所以我們會有相關的策略你沒有回答問題部長沒有回答問題\n\n9\n00:02:59,170 --> 00:03:26,135\n什麼事?你沒有人要回答我?我只是質詢你你這是什麼態度啊?問題是什麼態度?我剛剛講了像比如說像加拿大他們都很具體嘛他說要拿特斯拉開刀啊越南他們說他們要降部分關稅嘛那我現在問你是說我們這邊的因應策略是什麼?那你沒有回答問題啊你講的只是說我們有關注啊我們有開會啊那我現在是問說那你們的策略是什麼?然後我說你沒有回答問題你說是\n\n10\n00:03:27,916 --> 00:03:48,394\n部長我覺得官員來這邊不要用這種傲慢的態度好不好今天如果說你能夠讓大家都很安心的話不會每個委員在問這個問題嘛那就是你講的東西讓人家覺得說你是沒有準備好所以大家才會來問那結果你的態度就是我沒有評估啊然後我問你說你沒有講你還說是\n\n11\n00:03:50,135 --> 00:04:18,280\n我還要往下講啊委員你剛剛就沒有要講就是是是你是什麼為什麼要那麼傲慢我覺得跟委員報告能不能像是看那個王世堅委員在質詢你的時候說你恃寵而驕跟委員報告說你這樣看你這個態度就是這個樣子啊對委員我們都是絕對的尊重那什麼叫做你沒有回答問題是那個態度就是我就是沒有要回答怎麼樣我想您是誤會了我沒有誤會剛剛的態度通過直播大家都看得很清楚\n\n12\n00:04:20,013 --> 00:04:21,218\n請問一下你們現在的因應策略是什麼\n\n13\n00:04:22,076 --> 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