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00:00:36,261\n主委好我想問一個很多消費者關心的一個議題因為你們在去年七、八月的時候有公告公告一個電信管理業務規費的收費標準那它具體內容就是只要有比如說有藍牙或者是Wi-Fi或者是無線傳輸的不管是滑鼠、耳機如果說消費者是從國外買的話那通通都要收750塊的審查費\n\n3\n00:00:38,542 --> 00:01:01,799\n那這個事情後來引起軒然大波那二月份的時候你們就有對外說暫緩實施但是只是暫緩實施沒有說不實施然後說會評估對政策的影響再繳報告來決定要不要繼續收費那這個事情你這樣講當然大家就會擔心擔心什麼呢擔心會不會忽然間又公告了\n\n4\n00:01:02,279 --> 00:01:22,345\n因為當初公告你並不是大張旗鼓的公告當初公告就是在你們這個默默的公告所以很多人不知道這個事情雖然大波市已經有人收到了要繳750塊所以才開始引起輿論討論我先問一個最直接的問題請問一下你們現在評估狀況怎麼樣有考慮還會收嗎\n\n5\n00:01:24,774 --> 00:01:53,597\n跟我們報告我們當時會發信用稿說暫緩收集是因為我們正在進行發函請財政部同意我們依規廢法第十條第十二條來辦理停徵那當時財政部還沒還這個程序還沒完人所以我們發的信用稿後來後來我們有發第二個信用稿說抽到財政部函之後我們就正式說明說辦理停徵一年那針對我的問題回答我現在問題是說對你現在暫緩嘛那你會不會之後會被收\n\n6\n00:01:54,471 --> 00:02:21,428\n我們是希望在一年的就是停這一年期間來檢討那個法規所以你檢討怎麼樣現在因為這個事情社會關注啊你要檢討一年嗎你之後所以你現在聽起來之後有考慮再收是不是我們會不是啊那你這個東西就很不合理啊我們會計比例非常不合理嘛第一個你現在要求人家只要是國外買的通通都要收這個規費或檢查費但是實際上他買某一個品牌的不管是耳機也好或者是\n\n7\n00:02:22,368 --> 00:02:33,719\n滑鼠也好那代理商基本上已經檢測過了代理商已經付過檢測的費用了那為什麼同樣一個東西你還要跟消費者再收一次檢查費這個不合理\n\n8\n00:02:34,744 --> 00:02:59,949\n然後第二個是你收了這個檢查費之後請問現在NCC現在有人力真的一件一件去檢查嗎也不可能啊我們是審查海關他們傳過來申報透過報告員申報的他的那些行路資料還有他的竊集資料等等你是書面審查嘛對你光書面審查人家花150塊買一個滑鼠然後你書面審查你就要跟人家收750塊的審查費\n\n9\n00:03:02,810 --> 00:03:17,266\n這個你到現在還是覺得很合理是不是不是這一塊的因為是體制上的基礎不一樣因為他不是稅不是不是說依據你的那個售價來來來照百分比所以這個所以我們現在在進行檢討的目的就是這樣子\n\n10\n00:03:18,166 --> 00:03:35,048\n所以當初大家覺得很不合理的理由你現在檢討的狀況怎麼樣因為我不知道我以為主委不好意思我以為這個事情引起軒然大波在立法院部分藍綠的立委都覺得這很不合理\n\n11\n00:03:35,569 --> 00:03:55,938\n那二月宣布暫緩實施現在大概已經接近四月了理論上這個對NCT來說應該是一件大事如果說你們檢討之後發現當初真的思慮不周好像真的影響到消費者的權益引起社會恐慌所以我們趕快檢討之後宣布說這個以後我們就不會再做我以為是這樣\n\n12\n00:03:56,958 --> 00:04:11,514\n那我今天因為二月到現在接近兩個月的時間我們第一次碰到NCC來問一下到底狀況如何就你的回答是說我們那時候怎樣怎樣然後好像一副就是收無所謂不是不是我們在宣告當中\n\n13\n00:04:12,395 --> 00:04:31,154\n在檢討當中檢討的結果必須要體現在那個法規命令的修正那法規命令修正現在沒辦法那請問你現在是計畫檢討一年再跟大家宣布要收不收還是忽然間一年後又默默公告了等到大家收到750塊的檢驗費的時候才又再引起軒然大波你現在的做法是怎樣\n\n14\n00:04:31,946 --> 00:04:59,064\n我們做法是要修正那個收費標準收費標準是個執法是個法規命令那需要委員會議來審現在我們沒有委員會議又推給委員會議那你們幕僚作業現在的方向是什麼都持續進行就是持續進行就照比例原則照這個收費的對象還有你們現在幕僚作業你現在講是說要找那個委員會來確認嘛那你幕僚作業現在是朝收還是繼續要收的方向那收多少錢\n\n15\n00:04:59,904 --> 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