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00:02:08,760\n跟委員報告屆期換照的業者來申請我們都前面在委員會這個程序之前的程序都照樣如實的來進行來實踐包括上這個深色評鑑換照委員會然後該上分組都上分組然後到達我們的資議會議然後這個階段到他們這個要屆期之前我們會比照這個MTV台北街的這種情況我們會發兩個\n\n7\n00:02:11,321 --> 00:02:38,124\n兩個部分第一個申請換照的業者部分我們會給他一個類似行政觀念行政指導的行政觀念通知的行政指導函告訴他你的申請換照我們進行到什麼程度就是讓他知道說他沒有故意過失目前是換照程序中並不是駁回所以他的法律定位是所以就並不需要每一個都要來跟你們打官司了對不對\n\n8\n00:02:39,465 --> 00:02:59,912\n打官司如果有勝訴的話對他的保障是更好所以他們現在這幾家都在跟你們打官司嗎目前只有那兩家因為我說六月底之前可以有這麼多家他都會有借鈴換照所以我們的做法都是跟之前的這個兒童頻道是一樣的嗎台北營業的這個兒童頻道是一樣的嗎\n\n9\n00:03:02,973 --> 00:03:17,444\n目前是這樣子我能通知這個平台業者有線電視平台或中華電信MOD告訴他你的平台上的那些頻道業者這些換照部分不是他們被駁回是換照程序進行中請你要維護公共利益\n\n10\n00:03:18,545 --> 00:03:37,154\n現在的重點是所以就說我們現在NCC的有關人士因為行政院遲遲沒有辦法提出新的人士名單那一方面可能也有一些消費者尤其當然是這些頻道業者但是我覺得基本上我們是站在消費者的立場那他可能\n\n11\n00:03:37,754 --> 00:03:53,870\n他就不需要去擔心因為因為我們現在這個人是懸而未決所以他喜歡的頻道他喜歡的節目會因為他的執照到期應該要換發然後因此而消失我這樣講對不對\n\n12\n00:03:55,578 --> 00:04:21,018\n如果在有些電視的話它是基本頻道的話這邊它有些電視要把它下架要報NCC來核准NCC核准必須要經過委員會這部分是對我今天看到你有講就是說你現在你沒有辦法經過委員會開會所以你也沒有辦法下架它啦但是如果它是付費頻道的話它是報NCC被查這一塊的話我們就比較沒有辦法去cover這一塊好\n\n13\n00:04:21,658 --> 00:04:38,833\n所以這樣講就是說如果是付費頻道你的執照到期你沒有辦法換發所以呢那這就下架了是這樣意思嗎但是我們會請平台業者要尊重收視聽眾的權益跟公共利益因為有些\n\n14\n00:04:40,374 --> 00:05:06,949\n比方說無線電視台它不是每一台都閉載有些是在比較後面的品位它的播出有些像疫情期間也有跑馬這些都是有公共利益的我們希望它能夠尊重公共利益保護好所以反正我在這邊的質詢就是我希望就是因為當然你們現在這個人是那麼在我們當然希望行政院能夠盡快提出新的人士來做審查\n\n15\n00:05:07,549 --> 00:05:14,893\n但是在這之前不要因為這樣的理由而去影響我們消費者的收視的權益好那再一點點時間想請問一下就是其實之前你們對於一些這個你們的就是包含這個無線通訊的包含收750元因為那時候跟我講在總諮詢的時候說可以停徵\n\n16\n00:05:32,063 --> 00:05:44,055\n然後後來又說變成一年只停徵一年所以我請問一下我可以再確定一下現在是不是只停徵一年我想這是很多消費者非常關心的\n\n17\n00:05:45,031 --> 00:06:05,529\n跟委員報告我們是自我期許在一年內能夠完成這個收費標準的這個法規命令的修正那個修正需要委員會議所以我們本來是預期一年內能夠處理完這個事情那退換部這個停徵如果必要的時候我們希望不會走到那一步也可以再次跟財政部申請\n\n18\n00:06:07,646 --> 00:06:23,727\n所以你可能申請可能不申請我們期許一年內能夠完成這個法規的修正所以你的意思你還是要收拾是不是我們會朝這個比例原則還有最新的民意方向來處理\n\n19\n00:06:25,020 --> 00:06:51,471\n其實之前就是你們一過年之後就立刻的公告來收取事實上已經引起民眾的大幅的反彈我覺得你們不需要這麼執意的非要一定一定要收不可而且你們現在還要修正相關的規定讓你們有這個收取的法源依據是這個意思嗎不是那個收賄本身就是一個收賄標準本身就是一個法規命令它是去年在有文匯組成時候階段通過的\n\n20\n00:06:51,991 --> 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