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00:01:10,625\n我們的電子製造業、半導體、重工業、農產都非常不利那如果不按照美國期待的方向調整4月2號川普的關稅大禮一定會嚴重影響我國的整體發展\n\n5\n00:01:11,866 --> 00:01:27,759\n那想要這個15國的黑名單要從這黑名單除名就是要對美國要減少輸出嘛對不對然後要增加對於美國的採購所以我就想到說我們那個中油\n\n6\n00:01:29,854 --> 00:01:54,004\n簽署的那個天然氣買賣的意向書這個部分是不是就是我們可以讓美國滿意的做法可不可以就此就用這個來說想美國對台對美的一個貿易順差可以減少多少是跟委員報告第一點所謂的骯髒15國是他的到底包括哪些國家是\n\n7\n00:01:56,059 --> 00:02:18,332\n台灣排第六名我們台灣對美是排第六名但是我們包括在15個國之內是國外的媒體自行排列的那委員有關心到中油跟阿拉斯加有簽一個液化天然氣的意向書我們在裡面有表達我們願意\n\n8\n00:02:19,272 --> 00:02:26,467\n增加對於阿拉斯加的需要採購因為阿拉斯加如果直接運營天然氣的採購\n\n9\n00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:50,096\n天然氣經由阿拉斯加到台灣的話它是不用經過巴拿馬運河而且騎乘會比較短這樣也可以擴大我們對於天然氣的穩定供應就這樣子可以縮短對美的順差嘛對不對好那這一次台灣產品的一個關稅調整那對於我們經濟發展是很大的衝擊不管經貿科技供應面安全\n\n10\n00:02:52,107 --> 00:03:10,207\n我們跟美國都保持很密切的合作我們的護國神山台積電宣布在美國投資高達1650億美金但是一樣我們現在一樣被美國可以高關稅那代表我們在國際貿易的談判中是屬於非常被動的甚至於是\n\n11\n00:03:11,448 --> 00:03:30,883\n任人宰割啦我們現在只能知道說4月2號4月2號川普政府就會正式的宣布他的關稅政策那除了昨天宣布的這個汽車關稅之外那其他的包括涵蓋範圍影響層面我們好像都不知道所以我想請教莊部長財政部莊部長那針對這個你們就是說\n\n12\n00:03:39,369 --> 00:04:01,834\n通訊產品機體電路螺絲帽等對美國輸出的出口的前三十大貨品你們已經有進行砂盤推演有評估說這一波的關稅可能帶來的影響跟對應策略是不是部長你可不可以在這裡說明一下你們的這個推演是什麼樣的內容\n\n13\n00:04:02,974 --> 00:04:19,079\n還有因應的策略是什麼我們先會對這個從美國進口以及或者是出口美國的主要貨品都去做一個盤點另外我們從出口到美國的許多的一些品項其實零關稅佔了居多我們這邊提到比如說資通訊產品還有電子零組件雙方都是零關稅的一個部分因為我們要掌握這個具體的衝擊數據\n\n14\n00:04:30,488 --> 00:04:36,750\n具體的衝擊當然最後要看美方他所4月2號宣布的相應的反制跟這些補救措施都有在擬定嗎\n\n15\n00:04:53,014 --> 00:05:14,523\n跟委員報告所以我們在行政院有一個台美經貿工作小組一個專案會議都非常密集的開會對所有的相關訊息以及對於有關的一些衝擊以及政府可採取的相關的一些措施都在那個經貿工作小組裡面去討論以及研擬方案那經濟部姜次長也請你回答一下剛剛我提問的部分\n\n16\n00:05:16,485 --> 00:05:43,700\n分別回答是我們相關的對策的研議一樣有策略有有意義有而且都是跨部會討論那可不可以告訴我們是什麼怎麼實施因為這個還要涉及未來談判所以首先要看這個美國公布的對等關稅的國家產品別是什麼但是我們就各種情境也有做沙盤推演跟模擬所以這涉及到未來跟美方是不是要談判如果要談判的話我們採取的策略為何好\n\n17\n00:05:45,182 --> 00:05:57,564\n好那個江次長先請回謝謝總部長再接著再請教是那個美國昨天宣布說對於汽車關稅提高到25%對不對\n\n18\n00:05:59,841 --> 00:06:05,603\n先以汽車關稅來講其他都還不知道目前我國的進口關稅是17.5%再加上貨物稅25%30%所以我們對於美國的進口汽車是高達37.5%42.5%52.5%是不是\n\n19\n00:06:27,232 --> 00:06:42,948\n第一個就是說我們出美國提高他的一個汽車關稅25%其實這個大家討論很多啦就是說現在來講已經不合時宜啦其實去年我們就也都有提過說這項關稅要來調整而且應該要大幅度的調整\n\n20\n00:06:45,791 --> 00:07:00,812\n當時沒有被列入被納入考慮沒有納入大家的一個討論那不如就是說趁這一次的機會趁這一次的機會也是滿足人民的期待來回應川普的要求部長你的看法\n\n21\n00:07:02,045 --> 00:07:16,524\n各種情境以及運營的方案都會在我們的討論裡面而且也涉及到未來的一個洽商跟談判日本韓國的稅率都比我們低日本甚至零利率\n\n22\n00:07:18,854 --> 00:07:45,587\n可是我們台灣現在的進口車已經超過50%以上在台灣市售的這些車輛但是我們買車卻要以不同的價格在美國買一部車可能90萬在台灣買要100多萬那如果更高的那差距又更多對不對所以我們台灣購車是剛性的需求每個家庭都要有車\n\n23\n00:07:46,847 --> 00:08:10,119\n我們家沒有捷運我們整個台中市只有一條捷運目前所以沒有車是不行的對不對那買車這個是剛性的需求所以必須要有車那現在台灣被納入這個黑名單我覺得現在就是改革最好的時機所以在這邊跟部長反映就是說這個降低進口車關稅是全民的心聲所以\n\n24\n00:08:10,979 --> 00:08:39,654\n提出降稅的方案給我們也在現在這個時機來因應整個對美國的一個粗糙的一個我們長期對美國粗糙那現在做一個調整也可以符合人民的期待趁這個機會可不可以了解委員非常關心這個議題也有其他委員都關心我想這個關稅也涉及到我們整個國內的產業的發展以及消費者的一個權益這個部分委員的建議我們都會納入研議是\n\n25\n00:08:40,285 --> 00:08:47,577\n好的謝謝部長謝謝好謝謝顏委員的資訊下一位請廖先生委員資訊\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n1310\t4932\t經濟部的江次長還有財政部的莊部長委員好\n15444\t39740\t市長 部長好市委員好先請教江次長美國財政部長點名全世界骯髒15國4月2號是關稅重點柯震對象如果對於沒有提出讓美國滿意的做法就會以可以高關稅昨天也已經宣布了對台的汽車關稅要提高到25%\n41175\t53812\t那這15國其實就是美國的貿易逆差國就是美國的前15大貿易夥伴那台灣去年對美國出差648億創歷史新高那一定會被課以高關稅\n56355\t70625\t我們的電子製造業、半導體、重工業、農產都非常不利那如果不按照美國期待的方向調整4月2號川普的關稅大禮一定會嚴重影響我國的整體發展\n71866\t87759\t那想要這個15國的黑名單要從這黑名單除名就是要對美國要減少輸出嘛對不對然後要增加對於美國的採購所以我就想到說我們那個中油\n89854\t114004\t簽署的那個天然氣買賣的意向書這個部分是不是就是我們可以讓美國滿意的做法可不可以就此就用這個來說想美國對台對美的一個貿易順差可以減少多少是跟委員報告第一點所謂的骯髒15國是他的到底包括哪些國家是\n116059\t138332\t台灣排第六名我們台灣對美是排第六名但是我們包括在15個國之內是國外的媒體自行排列的那委員有關心到中油跟阿拉斯加有簽一個液化天然氣的意向書我們在裡面有表達我們願意\n139272\t146467\t增加對於阿拉斯加的需要採購因為阿拉斯加如果直接運營天然氣的採購\n148120\t170096\t天然氣經由阿拉斯加到台灣的話它是不用經過巴拿馬運河而且騎乘會比較短這樣也可以擴大我們對於天然氣的穩定供應就這樣子可以縮短對美的順差嘛對不對好那這一次台灣產品的一個關稅調整那對於我們經濟發展是很大的衝擊不管經貿科技供應面安全\n172107\t190207\t我們跟美國都保持很密切的合作我們的護國神山台積電宣布在美國投資高達1650億美金但是一樣我們現在一樣被美國可以高關稅那代表我們在國際貿易的談判中是屬於非常被動的甚至於是\n191448\t210883\t任人宰割啦我們現在只能知道說4月2號4月2號川普政府就會正式的宣布他的關稅政策那除了昨天宣布的這個汽車關稅之外那其他的包括涵蓋範圍影響層面我們好像都不知道所以我想請教莊部長財政部莊部長那針對這個你們就是說\n219369\t241834\t通訊產品 機體電路 螺絲帽等對美國輸出的出口的前三十大貨品你們已經有進行砂盤推演有評估說這一波的關稅可能帶來的影響跟對應策略是不是部長你可不可以在這裡說明一下你們的這個推演是什麼樣的內容\n242974\t259079\t還有因應的策略是什麼我們先會對這個從美國進口以及或者是出口美國的主要貨品都去做一個盤點另外我們從出口到美國的許多的一些品項其實零關稅佔了居多我們這邊提到比如說資通訊產品還有電子零組件雙方都是零關稅的一個部分因為我們要掌握這個具體的衝擊數據\n270488\t276750\t具體的衝擊當然最後要看美方他所4月2號宣布的相應的反制跟這些補救措施都有在擬定嗎\n293014\t314523\t跟委員報告所以我們在行政院有一個台美經貿工作小組一個專案會議都非常密集的開會對所有的相關訊息以及對於有關的一些衝擊以及政府可採取的相關的一些措施都在那個經貿工作小組裡面去討論以及研擬方案那經濟部姜次長也請你回答一下剛剛我提問的部分\n316485\t343700\t分別回答是我們相關的對策的研議一樣有策略有有意義有而且都是跨部會討論那可不可以告訴我們是什麼怎麼實施因為這個還要涉及未來談判所以首先要看這個美國公布的對等關稅的國家產品別是什麼但是我們就各種情境也有做沙盤推演跟模擬所以這涉及到未來跟美方是不是要談判如果要談判的話我們採取的策略為何好\n345182\t357564\t好那個江次長先請回謝謝總部長再接著再請教是那個美國昨天宣布說對於汽車關稅提高到25%對不對\n359841\t365603\t先以汽車關稅來講 其他都還不知道目前我國的進口關稅是17.5%再加上貨物稅25% 30%所以我們對於美國的進口汽車是高達37.5% 42.5% 52.5% 是不是\n387232\t402948\t第一個就是說我們出美國提高他的一個汽車關稅25%其實這個大家討論很多啦就是說現在來講已經不合時宜啦其實去年我們就也都有提過說這項關稅要來調整而且應該要大幅度的調整\n405791\t420812\t當時沒有被列入 被納入考慮 沒有納入大家的一個討論那不如就是說 趁這一次的機會趁這一次的機會 也是滿足人民的期待來回應川普的要求部長你的看法\n422045\t436524\t各種情境以及運營的方案都會在我們的討論裡面而且也涉及到未來的一個洽商跟談判日本韓國的稅率都比我們低日本甚至零利率\n438854\t465587\t可是我們台灣現在的進口車已經超過50%以上在台灣市售的這些車輛但是我們買車卻要以不同的價格在美國買一部車可能90萬在台灣買要100多萬那如果更高的那差距又更多 對不對所以我們台灣購車是剛性的需求每個家庭都要有車\n466847\t490119\t我們家沒有捷運我們整個台中市只有一條捷運目前所以沒有車是不行的對不對那買車這個是剛性的需求所以必須要有車那現在台灣被納入這個黑名單我覺得現在就是改革最好的時機所以在這邊跟部長反映就是說這個降低進口車關稅是全民的心聲所以\n490979\t519654\t提出降稅的方案給我們也在現在這個時機來因應整個對美國的一個粗糙的一個我們長期對美國粗糙那現在做一個調整也可以符合人民的期待趁這個機會可不可以了解委員非常關心這個議題也有其他委員都關心我想這個關稅也涉及到我們整個國內的產業的發展以及消費者的一個權益這個部分委員的建議我們都會納入研議是\n520285\t527577\t好的 謝謝部長 謝謝好 謝謝顏委員的資訊 下一位請廖先生委員資訊\n","txt":"經濟部的江次長還有財政部的莊部長委員好\n市長 部長好市委員好先請教江次長美國財政部長點名全世界骯髒15國4月2號是關稅重點柯震對象如果對於沒有提出讓美國滿意的做法就會以可以高關稅昨天也已經宣布了對台的汽車關稅要提高到25%\n那這15國其實就是美國的貿易逆差國就是美國的前15大貿易夥伴那台灣去年對美國出差648億創歷史新高那一定會被課以高關稅\n我們的電子製造業、半導體、重工業、農產都非常不利那如果不按照美國期待的方向調整4月2號川普的關稅大禮一定會嚴重影響我國的整體發展\n那想要這個15國的黑名單要從這黑名單除名就是要對美國要減少輸出嘛對不對然後要增加對於美國的採購所以我就想到說我們那個中油\n簽署的那個天然氣買賣的意向書這個部分是不是就是我們可以讓美國滿意的做法可不可以就此就用這個來說想美國對台對美的一個貿易順差可以減少多少是跟委員報告第一點所謂的骯髒15國是他的到底包括哪些國家是\n台灣排第六名我們台灣對美是排第六名但是我們包括在15個國之內是國外的媒體自行排列的那委員有關心到中油跟阿拉斯加有簽一個液化天然氣的意向書我們在裡面有表達我們願意\n增加對於阿拉斯加的需要採購因為阿拉斯加如果直接運營天然氣的採購\n天然氣經由阿拉斯加到台灣的話它是不用經過巴拿馬運河而且騎乘會比較短這樣也可以擴大我們對於天然氣的穩定供應就這樣子可以縮短對美的順差嘛對不對好那這一次台灣產品的一個關稅調整那對於我們經濟發展是很大的衝擊不管經貿科技供應面安全\n我們跟美國都保持很密切的合作我們的護國神山台積電宣布在美國投資高達1650億美金但是一樣我們現在一樣被美國可以高關稅那代表我們在國際貿易的談判中是屬於非常被動的甚至於是\n任人宰割啦我們現在只能知道說4月2號4月2號川普政府就會正式的宣布他的關稅政策那除了昨天宣布的這個汽車關稅之外那其他的包括涵蓋範圍影響層面我們好像都不知道所以我想請教莊部長財政部莊部長那針對這個你們就是說\n通訊產品 機體電路 螺絲帽等對美國輸出的出口的前三十大貨品你們已經有進行砂盤推演有評估說這一波的關稅可能帶來的影響跟對應策略是不是部長你可不可以在這裡說明一下你們的這個推演是什麼樣的內容\n還有因應的策略是什麼我們先會對這個從美國進口以及或者是出口美國的主要貨品都去做一個盤點另外我們從出口到美國的許多的一些品項其實零關稅佔了居多我們這邊提到比如說資通訊產品還有電子零組件雙方都是零關稅的一個部分因為我們要掌握這個具體的衝擊數據\n具體的衝擊當然最後要看美方他所4月2號宣布的相應的反制跟這些補救措施都有在擬定嗎\n跟委員報告所以我們在行政院有一個台美經貿工作小組一個專案會議都非常密集的開會對所有的相關訊息以及對於有關的一些衝擊以及政府可採取的相關的一些措施都在那個經貿工作小組裡面去討論以及研擬方案那經濟部姜次長也請你回答一下剛剛我提問的部分\n分別回答是我們相關的對策的研議一樣有策略有有意義有而且都是跨部會討論那可不可以告訴我們是什麼怎麼實施因為這個還要涉及未來談判所以首先要看這個美國公布的對等關稅的國家產品別是什麼但是我們就各種情境也有做沙盤推演跟模擬所以這涉及到未來跟美方是不是要談判如果要談判的話我們採取的策略為何好\n好那個江次長先請回謝謝總部長再接著再請教是那個美國昨天宣布說對於汽車關稅提高到25%對不對\n先以汽車關稅來講 其他都還不知道目前我國的進口關稅是17.5%再加上貨物稅25% 30%所以我們對於美國的進口汽車是高達37.5% 42.5% 52.5% 是不是\n第一個就是說我們出美國提高他的一個汽車關稅25%其實這個大家討論很多啦就是說現在來講已經不合時宜啦其實去年我們就也都有提過說這項關稅要來調整而且應該要大幅度的調整\n當時沒有被列入 被納入考慮 沒有納入大家的一個討論那不如就是說 趁這一次的機會趁這一次的機會 也是滿足人民的期待來回應川普的要求部長你的看法\n各種情境以及運營的方案都會在我們的討論裡面而且也涉及到未來的一個洽商跟談判日本韓國的稅率都比我們低日本甚至零利率\n可是我們台灣現在的進口車已經超過50%以上在台灣市售的這些車輛但是我們買車卻要以不同的價格在美國買一部車可能90萬在台灣買要100多萬那如果更高的那差距又更多 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