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00:01:28,937\n防汛或是抗旱的這個準備工作是一年365天我們都會主持來盤點對那請問一下就是現在有關於不管是我們未來的汛期有可能也會造成像去年的海米颱風一樣的這樣子的災情那對於水利署而言你可能認為說災情比過去更好了\n\n4\n00:01:29,417 --> 00:01:52,850\n但是對於民眾的損失以及對於他們安全的這樣相關的影響他們還是很重大啊尤其是在氣候變遷嚴峻的極端氣候的產生之下對於大家而言這個急降雨產生的情況以及最近急降溫\n\n5\n00:01:53,931 --> 00:02:08,364\n那對於這樣子農田水利以及我們水利署相關的這樣子的影響那你們有做好相關的因應嗎有如同委員所說的極端事變其實在我們來看就像大白鯊一樣\n\n6\n00:02:09,431 --> 00:02:38,518\n他來的很快而且對我們整體社會的這個損失也相當的大所以我們在今天報告的第三頁跟第四頁特別提到五大措施這五大措施不管從整體性的治理改善還有減少淹水入家門加速退水以及防災應變的工作現在都已經在次第的實施我們希望在5月1號訊息來臨之前我們就可以去做充分的準備但是\n\n7\n00:02:39,932 --> 00:02:59,688\n依照國科會包括委員所呈現的數據顯示我們現在面臨到的這個狀況一年比一年可能更加的險峻所以行政院為了要超前部署這些的狀況所以在去年成立了水及流域永續小組那這個小組是在解決委員所提的問題\n\n8\n00:03:01,112 --> 00:03:25,893\n是那對於我提出來這個數字就是國家氣候變遷科學報告2024年的這個數字裡面他說有大部分大約14%的鄉鎮都會處於較高的洪水風險而且3%的鄉鎮淹水的情況是在現在的情況下就是已經有這個極端氣候的情況下會更加的嚴峻\n\n9\n00:03:27,014 --> 00:03:51,495\n那對於我們淹水風險升高的鄉鎮尤其在彰化那有面臨到海岸線的部分我們是排行第三名的這個就是說沿海地區的易淹的深度會超過1.5公尺的風險那你們有沒有提出相關的減災的這個措施呢第一個\n\n10\n00:03:52,674 --> 00:04:04,270\n我們整體的海岸防護計畫顯示彰化的海岸是一級防護海岸所以一級防護海岸就是剛剛委員所提到的情況發生的話它會產生三種以上的風險\n\n11\n00:04:05,492 --> 00:04:23,536\n包括爆草易淹的這個狀況而且彰化的沿海也是我們潮沙最大的區域所以我們現在所做的事情不管是從養攤還有包括從上游不斷的讓這些泥沙可以到河口甚至對於我們的海岸的防護會做\n\n12\n00:04:24,156 --> 00:04:49,713\n一些保護的工作之外我們都有做我們現在水利署的水利規劃實驗所針對於濁水溪它有做一個水供試驗怎麼樣讓濁水溪的泥沙慢慢的可以帶到河口然後隨著洋流主要的趨勢流可以到保護我們彰化的海岸這些工作都已經這樣進行那未來我們也會依照國科會所推估的新的情境去套疊\n\n13\n00:04:51,124 --> 00:05:16,108\n套點了之後然後我們再來檢討我們的一級海岸防護計畫看哪一些需要加強的再來做加強好那農田水利署呢你們對於我們彰化縣的這個灌溉的取鉤那到底有沒有做好清汙以及我們在這個汛期來的時候有相關的這樣子防洪的這樣子的一個一個準備呢\n\n14\n00:05:16,508 --> 00:05:32,709\n是非常感謝委員的垂詢首先先跟委員報告那有關在今年度的這個全國的這個一席倒座的這個灌溉絕對都沒有問題那因為我們做了非常多的這個調序空間和一些智慧管理的機制那再來就是委員所垂詢到接下來這個\n\n15\n00:05:34,190 --> 00:05:49,960\n這個5月1號就進入這個訊期那事實上我們這幾年在這個居住改善的這個量能多比過往其實大非常的多那我們清淤那麼除了用傳統的這個定期清淤還有這個農民到工作站通報以外那我們還增加了0800專線還有網路通報等等多元通報的機制\n\n16\n00:05:53,602 --> 00:06:22,224\n那我們現在就是平均處理這個清約的這個工作從這個8.2天到現在下降到4.3天那我們區定量也增加了61%所以整體而言我們對於我們整個彰化地區的這個這個抗洪的這個量能事實上是大幅提升不過因為就像委員您的這個報告裡面非常的精準在這個AR6的這個情境的模擬之下那事實上我們後續要做的工作還非常多以上簡單報告\n\n17\n00:06:25,626 --> 00:06:43,736\n市長對於現在大家所重視的另外一個問題就是耗水費的開徵不是耗水費就是水費會不會增加如果在不影響民生的情況下會不會像2023年\n\n18\n00:06:45,342 --> 00:07:05,278\n我們開徵耗水費一樣那你們開徵耗水費到現在以來有沒有辦法精準的就是說降低我們的就是說可以增加我們的收入然後讓我們整個水的成本那也可以用就是說也可以\n\n19\n00:07:06,338 --> 00:07:29,109\n減緩一些些那這樣子是不是會讓我們未來不用大幅度的增加水費而以耗水費的部分來做這樣相關的因應呢好首先這個耗水費的開徵感謝委員會的支持所以我們也順利開徵而這個開徵我們針對於用水9000度以上的這個部分來開徵全國大概有1600多\n\n20\n00:07:30,570 --> 00:07:56,523\n那所徵收的這些耗水費會專款專用於改善輔導廠商用再生水甚至來支應我們枯旱期間的這個用水調度還有節水的作業那目前為止這個我們徵收了這個狀況我們現在來看的話對於所謂的廠商他循環用水確實第一個產生很大的這個\n\n21\n00:07:57,924 --> 00:08:25,559\n改善的一個狀況因為耗水費的開徵有一些誘因廠商可以去去做這些工作那除此之外的話耗水費的這個開徵對於大用水戶節省用水量也是有相當大的幫助但是這個跟水價是不一樣的一個事情因為耗水費它是一個所謂的特別功課就是課來就是專款要專用的那水費啦這基於使用者付費的原則\n\n22\n00:08:26,599 --> 00:08:53,728\n那現在台水公司全國超過6.5萬多左右的這些的管路那逐漸的在老化那台水公司也精進了它很多的降落的這個技術或是維修的技術我們可以看到這幾年不管是颱風、豪雨或是緊急的事變台水公司對於這些的緊急的應變的能力說逐次的在提升那我們會針對於台水公司今天所提出來\n\n23\n00:08:54,688 --> 00:09:06,445\n今天下班前他所會提出來這個報告全面性來檢視怎麼樣來協助台水公司來健全他的體質之外來符合我們委員會包括社會的祈求\n\n24\n00:09:07,213 --> 00:09:32,365\n好谢谢但是我还有其实我对于你刚才做的那个手板就是你们对于说好像核能就是说用电就是比高达30%的那个南韩那他们的那个电费还是比我们大那其实你也知道说现在不管是美国以及欧洲国家都已经开始使用核能那即便是在成本这么高的情况下为什么大家要核能是不是\n\n25\n00:09:35,040 --> 00:10:01,436\n基本上我們就對新核能技術的這個掌控台電公司都有去follow國際的訊息那甚至台電公司相關的這個同仁也會去看國外去看到借機他新的這個技術的一個開放的一個狀況但是我們對於能源的使用無論是新能源或是舊能源他基本上社會希望核能要安全的社會希望說\n\n26\n00:10:03,533 --> 00:10:32,031\n核廢料要能處理的那這些所謂的使用必須要有一些的共識基於這三個原則那我看國際的社會對於核能的一個使用也大概不外乎是跟我們國家所產生的這個原則一樣但是我還是要再次跟委員所說明的事情是韓國的核能佔比這麼高他不管是住宅用電跟工業的用電都遠高於我國所以基本上\n\n27\n00:10:33,342 --> 00:10:58,941\n在電價審議委員會還有包括我們在工作會議裡面檢視台電公司的財務報告裡面確實是在111年跟112年台電公司因為電價不為主額反映的部分它吸收的這個虧損是6000億其中有2600億是照顧民生的所以也之所以如此所以我們希望說爭取預算來撥補\n\n28\n00:11:02,380 --> 00:11:24,988\n這塊讓這個台電公司背負過去的所謂的燃料成本這個大幅上漲的這個累積的這個虧損讓他可以趕快的穩定下來然後他可以去前瞻未來包括他電網韌性的改善甚至很多新的綠能還有包括新的能源的措施的這個掌握好謝謝好謝謝委員\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n7376\t34663\t謝謝主席 我想要請賴次長請農田水利署的蔡署長請次長跟署長 謝謝委員好好 這個今年的汛期以及有沒有可能發生就是之前的百年大旱那個情況那我相信你們是不是對於相關的水情有重要的掌握\n36000\t61733\t今年上半年的部分不會發生百年大旱的狀況因為我們中部以北的水庫啊蓄水率都有九成那第一期到座的整天期的這個用水都已經灌溉了然後接下來就會進入到本天期就是用水量比較少的但是我們密切來關注於春雨的降雨之外還有包括梅雨的這個降雨的可能因為我們所有的\n62313\t88937\t防汛或是抗旱的這個準備工作是一年365天我們都會主持來盤點對 那請問一下就是現在有關於不管是我們未來的汛期有可能也會造成像去年的海米颱風一樣的這樣子的災情那對於水利署而言你可能認為說災情比過去更好了\n89417\t112850\t但是對於民眾的損失以及對於他們安全的這樣相關的影響他們還是很重大啊尤其是在氣候變遷嚴峻的極端氣候的產生之下對於大家而言這個急降雨產生的情況以及最近急降溫\n113931\t128364\t那對於這樣子農田水利以及我們水利署相關的這樣子的影響那你們有做好相關的因應嗎有 如同委員所說的極端事變其實在我們來看就像大白鯊一樣\n129431\t158518\t他來的很快 而且對我們整體社會的這個損失也相當的大 所以我們在今天報告的第三頁跟第四頁特別提到五大措施這五大措施不管從整體性的治理改善還有減少淹水入家門 加速退水以及防災應變的工作 現在都已經在次第的實施我們希望在5月1號訊息來臨之前 我們就可以去做充分的準備但是\n159932\t179688\t依照國科會包括委員所呈現的數據顯示我們現在面臨到的這個狀況一年比一年可能更加的險峻所以行政院為了要超前部署這些的狀況所以在去年成立了水及流域永續小組那這個小組是在解決委員所提的問題\n181112\t205893\t是 那對於我提出來這個數字就是國家氣候變遷科學報告2024年的這個數字裡面他說有大部分大約14%的鄉鎮都會處於較高的洪水風險而且3%的鄉鎮淹水的情況是在現在的情況下就是已經有這個極端氣候的情況下會更加的嚴峻\n207014\t231495\t那對於我們淹水風險升高的鄉鎮尤其在彰化那有面臨到海岸線的部分我們是排行第三名的這個就是說沿海地區的易淹的深度會超過1.5公尺的風險那你們有沒有提出相關的減災的這個措施呢第一個\n232674\t244270\t我們整體的海岸防護計畫顯示彰化的海岸是一級防護海岸所以一級防護海岸就是剛剛委員所提到的情況發生的話它會產生三種以上的風險\n245492\t263536\t包括爆草易淹的這個狀況而且彰化的沿海也是我們潮沙最大的區域所以我們現在所做的事情不管是從養攤還有包括從上游不斷的讓這些泥沙可以到河口甚至對於我們的海岸的防護會做\n264156\t289713\t一些保護的工作之外我們都有做我們現在水利署的水利規劃實驗所針對於濁水溪它有做一個水供試驗怎麼樣讓濁水溪的泥沙慢慢的可以帶到河口然後隨著洋流主要的趨勢流可以到保護我們彰化的海岸這些工作都已經這樣進行那未來我們也會依照國科會所推估的新的情境去套疊\n291124\t316108\t套點了之後然後我們再來檢討我們的一級海岸防護計畫看哪一些需要加強的再來做加強好那農田水利署呢你們對於我們彰化縣的這個灌溉的取鉤那到底有沒有做好清汙以及我們在這個汛期來的時候有相關的這樣子防洪的這樣子的一個一個準備呢\n316508\t332709\t是 非常感謝委員的垂詢 首先先跟委員報告那有關在今年度的這個全國的這個一席倒座的這個灌溉絕對都沒有問題 那因為我們做了非常多的這個調序空間和一些智慧管理的機制那再來就是委員所垂詢到接下來這個\n334190\t349960\t這個5月1號就進入這個訊期那事實上我們這幾年在這個居住改善的這個量能多比過往其實大非常的多那我們清淤 那麼除了用傳統的這個定期清淤還有這個農民到工作站通報以外那我們還增加了0800專線還有網路通報等等多元通報的機制\n353602\t382224\t那我們現在就是平均處理這個清約的這個工作從這個8.2天到現在下降到4.3天那我們區定量也增加了61%所以整體而言我們對於我們整個彰化地區的這個這個抗洪的這個量能事實上是大幅提升不過因為就像委員您的這個報告裡面非常的精準在這個AR6的這個情境的模擬之下那事實上我們後續要做的工作還非常多以上簡單報告\n385626\t403736\t市長 對於現在大家所重視的另外一個問題就是耗水費的開徵 不是耗水費 就是水費會不會增加如果在不影響民生的情況下 會不會像2023年\n405342\t425278\t我們開徵耗水費一樣那你們開徵耗水費到現在以來有沒有辦法精準的就是說降低我們的就是說可以增加我們的收入然後讓我們整個水的成本那也可以用就是說也可以\n426338\t449109\t減緩一些些那這樣子是不是會讓我們未來不用大幅度的增加水費而以耗水費的部分來做這樣相關的因應呢好首先這個耗水費的開徵感謝委員會的支持所以我們也順利開徵而這個開徵我們針對於用水9000度以上的這個部分來開徵全國大概有1600多\n450570\t476523\t那所徵收的這些耗水費會專款專用於改善輔導廠商用再生水甚至來支應我們枯旱期間的這個用水調度還有節水的作業那目前為止這個我們徵收了這個狀況我們現在來看的話對於所謂的廠商他循環用水確實第一個產生很大的這個\n477924\t505559\t改善的一個狀況因為耗水費的開徵有一些誘因廠商可以去去做這些工作那除此之外的話耗水費的這個開徵對於大用水戶節省用水量也是有相當大的幫助但是這個跟水價是不一樣的一個事情因為耗水費它是一個所謂的特別功課就是課來就是專款要專用的那水費啦這基於使用者付費的原則\n506599\t533728\t那現在台水公司全國超過6.5萬多左右的這些的管路那逐漸的在老化那台水公司也精進了它很多的降落的這個技術或是維修的技術我們可以看到這幾年不管是颱風、豪雨或是緊急的事變台水公司對於這些的緊急的應變的能力說逐次的在提升那我們會針對於台水公司今天所提出來\n534688\t546445\t今天下班前他所會提出來這個報告全面性來檢視怎麼樣來協助台水公司來健全他的體質之外來符合我們委員會包括社會的祈求\n547213\t572365\t好 谢谢但是我还有其实我对于你刚才做的那个手板就是你们对于说好像核能就是说用电就是比高达30%的那个南韩那他们的那个电费还是比我们大那其实你也知道说现在不管是美国以及欧洲国家都已经开始使用核能那即便是在成本这么高的情况下为什么大家要核能是不是\n575040\t601436\t基本上我們就對新核能技術的這個掌控台電公司都有去follow國際的訊息那甚至台電公司相關的這個同仁也會去看國外去看到借機他新的這個技術的一個開放的一個狀況但是我們對於能源的使用無論是新能源或是舊能源他基本上社會希望核能要安全的社會希望說\n603533\t632031\t核廢料要能處理的那這些所謂的使用必須要有一些的共識基於這三個原則那我看國際的社會對於核能的一個使用也大概不外乎是跟我們國家所產生的這個原則一樣但是我還是要再次跟委員所說明的事情是韓國的核能佔比這麼高他不管是住宅用電跟工業的用電都遠高於我國所以基本上\n633342\t658941\t在電價審議委員會還有包括我們在工作會議裡面檢視台電公司的財務報告裡面確實是在111年跟112年台電公司因為電價不為主額反映的部分它吸收的這個虧損是6000億其中有2600億是照顧民生的所以也之所以如此所以我們希望說爭取預算來撥補\n662380\t684988\t這塊讓這個台電公司背負過去的所謂的燃料成本這個大幅上漲的這個累積的這個虧損讓他可以趕快的穩定下來然後他可以去前瞻未來包括他電網韌性的改善甚至很多新的綠能還有包括新的能源的措施的這個掌握好謝謝好謝謝委員\n","txt":"謝謝主席 我想要請賴次長請農田水利署的蔡署長請次長跟署長 謝謝委員好好 這個今年的汛期以及有沒有可能發生就是之前的百年大旱那個情況那我相信你們是不是對於相關的水情有重要的掌握\n今年上半年的部分不會發生百年大旱的狀況因為我們中部以北的水庫啊蓄水率都有九成那第一期到座的整天期的這個用水都已經灌溉了然後接下來就會進入到本天期就是用水量比較少的但是我們密切來關注於春雨的降雨之外還有包括梅雨的這個降雨的可能因為我們所有的\n防汛或是抗旱的這個準備工作是一年365天我們都會主持來盤點對 那請問一下就是現在有關於不管是我們未來的汛期有可能也會造成像去年的海米颱風一樣的這樣子的災情那對於水利署而言你可能認為說災情比過去更好了\n但是對於民眾的損失以及對於他們安全的這樣相關的影響他們還是很重大啊尤其是在氣候變遷嚴峻的極端氣候的產生之下對於大家而言這個急降雨產生的情況以及最近急降溫\n那對於這樣子農田水利以及我們水利署相關的這樣子的影響那你們有做好相關的因應嗎有 如同委員所說的極端事變其實在我們來看就像大白鯊一樣\n他來的很快 而且對我們整體社會的這個損失也相當的大 所以我們在今天報告的第三頁跟第四頁特別提到五大措施這五大措施不管從整體性的治理改善還有減少淹水入家門 加速退水以及防災應變的工作 現在都已經在次第的實施我們希望在5月1號訊息來臨之前 我們就可以去做充分的準備但是\n依照國科會包括委員所呈現的數據顯示我們現在面臨到的這個狀況一年比一年可能更加的險峻所以行政院為了要超前部署這些的狀況所以在去年成立了水及流域永續小組那這個小組是在解決委員所提的問題\n是 那對於我提出來這個數字就是國家氣候變遷科學報告2024年的這個數字裡面他說有大部分大約14%的鄉鎮都會處於較高的洪水風險而且3%的鄉鎮淹水的情況是在現在的情況下就是已經有這個極端氣候的情況下會更加的嚴峻\n那對於我們淹水風險升高的鄉鎮尤其在彰化那有面臨到海岸線的部分我們是排行第三名的這個就是說沿海地區的易淹的深度會超過1.5公尺的風險那你們有沒有提出相關的減災的這個措施呢第一個\n我們整體的海岸防護計畫顯示彰化的海岸是一級防護海岸所以一級防護海岸就是剛剛委員所提到的情況發生的話它會產生三種以上的風險\n包括爆草易淹的這個狀況而且彰化的沿海也是我們潮沙最大的區域所以我們現在所做的事情不管是從養攤還有包括從上游不斷的讓這些泥沙可以到河口甚至對於我們的海岸的防護會做\n一些保護的工作之外我們都有做我們現在水利署的水利規劃實驗所針對於濁水溪它有做一個水供試驗怎麼樣讓濁水溪的泥沙慢慢的可以帶到河口然後隨著洋流主要的趨勢流可以到保護我們彰化的海岸這些工作都已經這樣進行那未來我們也會依照國科會所推估的新的情境去套疊\n套點了之後然後我們再來檢討我們的一級海岸防護計畫看哪一些需要加強的再來做加強好那農田水利署呢你們對於我們彰化縣的這個灌溉的取鉤那到底有沒有做好清汙以及我們在這個汛期來的時候有相關的這樣子防洪的這樣子的一個一個準備呢\n是 非常感謝委員的垂詢 首先先跟委員報告那有關在今年度的這個全國的這個一席倒座的這個灌溉絕對都沒有問題 那因為我們做了非常多的這個調序空間和一些智慧管理的機制那再來就是委員所垂詢到接下來這個\n這個5月1號就進入這個訊期那事實上我們這幾年在這個居住改善的這個量能多比過往其實大非常的多那我們清淤 那麼除了用傳統的這個定期清淤還有這個農民到工作站通報以外那我們還增加了0800專線還有網路通報等等多元通報的機制\n那我們現在就是平均處理這個清約的這個工作從這個8.2天到現在下降到4.3天那我們區定量也增加了61%所以整體而言我們對於我們整個彰化地區的這個這個抗洪的這個量能事實上是大幅提升不過因為就像委員您的這個報告裡面非常的精準在這個AR6的這個情境的模擬之下那事實上我們後續要做的工作還非常多以上簡單報告\n市長 對於現在大家所重視的另外一個問題就是耗水費的開徵 不是耗水費 就是水費會不會增加如果在不影響民生的情況下 會不會像2023年\n我們開徵耗水費一樣那你們開徵耗水費到現在以來有沒有辦法精準的就是說降低我們的就是說可以增加我們的收入然後讓我們整個水的成本那也可以用就是說也可以\n減緩一些些那這樣子是不是會讓我們未來不用大幅度的增加水費而以耗水費的部分來做這樣相關的因應呢好首先這個耗水費的開徵感謝委員會的支持所以我們也順利開徵而這個開徵我們針對於用水9000度以上的這個部分來開徵全國大概有1600多\n那所徵收的這些耗水費會專款專用於改善輔導廠商用再生水甚至來支應我們枯旱期間的這個用水調度還有節水的作業那目前為止這個我們徵收了這個狀況我們現在來看的話對於所謂的廠商他循環用水確實第一個產生很大的這個\n改善的一個狀況因為耗水費的開徵有一些誘因廠商可以去去做這些工作那除此之外的話耗水費的這個開徵對於大用水戶節省用水量也是有相當大的幫助但是這個跟水價是不一樣的一個事情因為耗水費它是一個所謂的特別功課就是課來就是專款要專用的那水費啦這基於使用者付費的原則\n那現在台水公司全國超過6.5萬多左右的這些的管路那逐漸的在老化那台水公司也精進了它很多的降落的這個技術或是維修的技術我們可以看到這幾年不管是颱風、豪雨或是緊急的事變台水公司對於這些的緊急的應變的能力說逐次的在提升那我們會針對於台水公司今天所提出來\n今天下班前他所會提出來這個報告全面性來檢視怎麼樣來協助台水公司來健全他的體質之外來符合我們委員會包括社會的祈求\n好 谢谢但是我还有其实我对于你刚才做的那个手板就是你们对于说好像核能就是说用电就是比高达30%的那个南韩那他们的那个电费还是比我们大那其实你也知道说现在不管是美国以及欧洲国家都已经开始使用核能那即便是在成本这么高的情况下为什么大家要核能是不是\n基本上我們就對新核能技術的這個掌控台電公司都有去follow國際的訊息那甚至台電公司相關的這個同仁也會去看國外去看到借機他新的這個技術的一個開放的一個狀況但是我們對於能源的使用無論是新能源或是舊能源他基本上社會希望核能要安全的社會希望說\n核廢料要能處理的那這些所謂的使用必須要有一些的共識基於這三個原則那我看國際的社會對於核能的一個使用也大概不外乎是跟我們國家所產生的這個原則一樣但是我還是要再次跟委員所說明的事情是韓國的核能佔比這麼高他不管是住宅用電跟工業的用電都遠高於我國所以基本上\n在電價審議委員會還有包括我們在工作會議裡面檢視台電公司的財務報告裡面確實是在111年跟112年台電公司因為電價不為主額反映的部分它吸收的這個虧損是6000億其中有2600億是照顧民生的所以也之所以如此所以我們希望說爭取預算來撥補\n這塊讓這個台電公司背負過去的所謂的燃料成本這個大幅上漲的這個累積的這個虧損讓他可以趕快的穩定下來然後他可以去前瞻未來包括他電網韌性的改善甚至很多新的綠能還有包括新的能源的措施的這個掌握好謝謝好謝謝委員\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:07.376 --> 00:34.663\n謝謝主席我想要請賴次長請農田水利署的蔡署長請次長跟署長謝謝委員好好這個今年的汛期以及有沒有可能發生就是之前的百年大旱那個情況那我相信你們是不是對於相關的水情有重要的掌握\n\n00:36.000 --> 01:01.733\n今年上半年的部分不會發生百年大旱的狀況因為我們中部以北的水庫啊蓄水率都有九成那第一期到座的整天期的這個用水都已經灌溉了然後接下來就會進入到本天期就是用水量比較少的但是我們密切來關注於春雨的降雨之外還有包括梅雨的這個降雨的可能因為我們所有的\n\n01:02.313 --> 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谢谢但是我还有其实我对于你刚才做的那个手板就是你们对于说好像核能就是说用电就是比高达30%的那个南韩那他们的那个电费还是比我们大那其实你也知道说现在不管是美国以及欧洲国家都已经开始使用核能那即便是在成本这么高的情况下为什么大家要核能是不是"},{"start":575.04,"end":601.436,"text":"基本上我們就對新核能技術的這個掌控台電公司都有去follow國際的訊息那甚至台電公司相關的這個同仁也會去看國外去看到借機他新的這個技術的一個開放的一個狀況但是我們對於能源的使用無論是新能源或是舊能源他基本上社會希望核能要安全的社會希望說"},{"start":603.533,"end":632.031,"text":"核廢料要能處理的那這些所謂的使用必須要有一些的共識基於這三個原則那我看國際的社會對於核能的一個使用也大概不外乎是跟我們國家所產生的這個原則一樣但是我還是要再次跟委員所說明的事情是韓國的核能佔比這麼高他不管是住宅用電跟工業的用電都遠高於我國所以基本上"},{"start":633.342,"end":658.941,"text":"在電價審議委員會還有包括我們在工作會議裡面檢視台電公司的財務報告裡面確實是在111年跟112年台電公司因為電價不為主額反映的部分它吸收的這個虧損是6000億其中有2600億是照顧民生的所以也之所以如此所以我們希望說爭取預算來撥補"},{"start":662.38,"end":684.988,"text":"這塊讓這個台電公司背負過去的所謂的燃料成本這個大幅上漲的這個累積的這個虧損讓他可以趕快的穩定下來然後他可以去前瞻未來包括他電網韌性的改善甚至很多新的綠能還有包括新的能源的措施的這個掌握好謝謝好謝謝委員"}]}}},"gazette":{"lineno":554,"blocks":[["謝委員衣鳯：（11時8分）謝謝主席。我想要請賴次長、請農田水利署的蔡署長。"],["主席：請次長跟署長，謝謝。"],["賴次長建信：委員好。"],["謝委員衣鳯：好喔！今年的汛期有沒有可能發生之前百年大旱的那個情況？我相信你們對於相關的水情應該有重要的掌握。"],["賴次長建信：今年上半年不會發生百年大旱的狀況，因為我們中部以北的水庫蓄水率到九成，第一期稻作整田期的用水都已經灌溉了，接下來就會進入到本田期，也就是用水量比較少的，但是我們除了密切關注春雨的降雨之外，還有包括梅雨降雨的可能，因為我們所有的防汛或是抗旱的準備工作是一年365天我們都會逐日來盤點。"],["謝委員衣鳯：請問一下，不管是未來的汛期，有可能也會造成像去年凱米颱風一樣的災情，對於水利署而言，你可能認為災情比過去更好了，但是對於民眾的損失以及對於他們安全相關的影響，他們還是很重大，尤其是在氣候變遷、嚴峻的極端氣候的產生之下，對於大家而言，急降雨產生的情況，以及最近的急降溫，對於農田水利以及水利署相關的影響，你們有做好相關因應了嗎？"],["賴次長建信：有，如同委員所說的極端事變，其實在我們來看就像大白鯊一樣，它來得很快，而且對我們整體社會的損失也相當的大，所以我們在今天報告的第3頁跟第4頁有特別提到五大措施，這五大措施不管從整體性的治理改善、減少淹水入家門、加速退水到防災應變的工作，現在都已經在次第的實施，我們希望在5月1日汛期來臨之前就可以做好充分的準備。但是依照國科會，包括委員所呈現的數據顯示，我們現在面臨到的狀況可能一年比一年更加的險峻，所以行政院為了要超前部署這些狀況，在去年成立了水及流域永續小組，這個小組就是在解決委員所提的問題。"],["謝委員衣鳯：是。對於我提出來的數字，就是國家氣候變遷科學報告2024年的這個數字裡面，他說大約14%的鄉鎮都會處於較高的洪水風險，而且其中3%鄉鎮的淹水情況是在現在已經有極端氣候的情況下會更加嚴峻的。對於淹水風險升高的鄉鎮，尤其在彰化有面臨到海岸線的部分，我們在沿海地區溢淹深度會超過1.5公尺的風險中是排行第3名，你們有沒有提出相關的減災措施？"],["賴次長建信：有，第一個，我們整體的海岸防護計畫顯示彰化的海岸是一級防護海岸，一級防護海岸就是如果剛剛委員所提到的情況發生的話，它會產生三種以上的風險，包括暴潮溢淹的狀況，而且彰化沿海也是我們潮差最大的區域，所以我們現在所做的事情，不管是從養灘，包括從上游不斷的讓泥沙可以帶到河口，甚至對於我們海岸的防護會做一些保護的工作等等，我們都有做。現在水利署的水利規劃試驗所針對於濁水溪有做一個水工試驗，怎麼樣讓濁水溪的泥沙可以慢慢的帶到河口，隨著洋流、主要的趨勢流可以保護彰化的海岸，這些工作都已經在進行。未來我們也會依照國科會所推估的新的情境去套疊，套疊了之後，我們再來檢討我們的一級海岸防護計畫，看哪一些需要加強的，再來做加強。"],["謝委員衣鳯：好，那農田水利署呢？你們對於彰化縣灌溉的渠溝到底有沒有做好清淤？以及在汛期來的時候，有沒有相關的防洪準備呢？"],["蔡署長昇甫：是，非常感謝委員的垂詢，首先跟委員報告，有關在今年度全國一級稻作的灌溉，絕對都沒有問題，因為我們做了非常多的調蓄空間以及一些智慧管理的機制。再來就是委員所垂詢到，接下來5月1日就進入汛期，事實上我們這幾年在圳路改善的量能都比過往大非常多，清淤方面，我們除了用傳統的定期清淤，還有農民到工作站通報以外，我們還增加了0800專線以及網路通報等多元通報的機制。我們現在平均處理清淤的工作時間從8.2天下降到4.3天，清淤量也增加了百分之六十一，所以整體而言，事實上彰化地區的抗洪量能是大幅提升的。不過委員的簡報裡面寫得非常精準，在AR6的情境模擬之下，事實上我們後續要做的工作還非常多，以上簡單報告。"],["謝委員衣鳯：好。次長，現在大家所重視的另外一個問題是，水費會不會增加，如果在不影響民生的情況下，會不會像2023年我們開徵耗水費一樣？你們開徵耗水費以來，有沒有辦法精準的增加我們的收入，讓我們整個水的成本也可以減緩一些些？這樣是不是會讓我們未來不用大幅度的增加水費，而以耗水費的部分來做這樣相關的因應呢？"],["賴次長建信：首先關於耗水費的開徵，感謝委員會的支持，我們也順利開徵，我們是針對用水量9000度以上的部分進行開徵，全國大概有一千六百多戶，所徵收的耗水費會專款專用於輔導廠商用再生水，甚至來支應枯旱期間的用水調度以及節水的作業。而目前為止我們的徵收狀況，以現在來看，對於廠商的循環用水確實有產生很大的改善狀況，因為耗水費的開徵有一些誘因，廠商可以去做這些工作。除此之外，耗水費的開徵，對於大用水戶節省用水量也是有相當大的幫助。但是這個跟水價是不一樣的事情，因為耗水費是一個特別公課，就是課來是要專款專用的；而水費則是基於使用者付費原則。而現在全國有超過六點五萬多左右的管路逐漸在老化，台水公司也精進了很多降漏的技術或是維修的技術，我們可以看到這幾年，不管是颱風、豪雨或是緊急的事變，台水公司對於這些緊急的應變能力都逐次的在提升。我們會針對於台水公司今天下班前所提出來的報告全面性來檢視，除了協助台水公司健全體質之外，也可以符合委員會及社會的期求。"],["謝委員衣鳯：好，謝謝。其實我對於你剛才做的手板，就是核能用電高達30%的南韓，他們的電費還是比我們大。其實你也知道現在不管是美國以及歐洲國家都已經開始使用核能，即便是在成本這麼高的情況下。為什麼大家要用核能？是不是？"],["賴次長建信：基本上對於新核能技術的掌控，台電公司都有去follow國際的訊息，甚至台電公司相關的同仁也會去國外介接新技術開放的狀況，但是我們對於能源的使用，無論是新能源或是舊能源，基本上社會希望核能要安全，社會希望核廢料要能處理，這些使用必須要有一些共識，基於這三個原則，我看國際社會對於核能的使用也不外乎跟我們國家的原則一樣，但我還是要再次跟委員說明的是，韓國的核能占比這麼高，他不管是住宅用電跟工業用電都遠高於我國，所以基本上在電價審議委員會，包括我們在工作會議裡面檢視台電公司的財務報告裡面，確實是在111年跟112年，台電公司因為電價未足額反映的部分，他吸收的虧損是6,000億，其中有2,600億是照顧民生的。也因為如此，我們希望能爭取預算來撥補這一塊，讓台電公司背負過去燃料成本大幅上漲所累積的虧損可以趕快的穩定下來，然後他就可以去前瞻未來，包括他電網韌性的改善，甚至很多新的綠能以及新的能源措施的掌握。"],["謝委員衣鳯：好，謝謝。"],["賴次長建信：謝謝委員。"],["主席：謝謝謝衣鳯委員。","接下來請邱志偉委員。"]],"agenda":{"page_end":226,"meet_id":"委員會-11-3-19-6","speakers":["謝衣鳯","邱議瑩","林岱樺","陳亭妃","呂玉玲","張嘉郡","楊瓊瓔","張啓楷","鄭天財Sra 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