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00:01:50,484\n很快大概什麼時候預計我們再跟那個部裡面再做溝通我們是已經報上去了這部分我們也希望就是說為我們這個辛苦的還有這個非常在這樣子一個危險的工作環境裡面的台鐵員工爭取應該有的福利另外我們大家也都非常的關心這個台鐵的這個\n\n6\n00:01:52,245 --> 00:02:02,933\n人力的一個部分因為我們台鐵肩負著交通運輸一個重責大任那這個服務品質也非常的重要當然也是牽涉到整個行車安全那我們看到目前我們截至113年底我們台鐵的員工確數仍然高達1628人是不是\n\n7\n00:02:14,361 --> 00:02:33,020\n那在這個部分我不曉得說對於這樣子的一個人員沒有辦法補齊然後也在沒有辦法補齊的狀況下也有同時這個在流失的狀況所以這樣子當然對我們的經營可能會更加的一個困難所以這部分我們有沒有什麼樣的一個對策\n\n8\n00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:55,312\n我想跟委員報告因為第一批大概去年的三四月的時候已經招募了那第二批次也是在最近也在招募我想我們會依照目前招募的情況如果不夠的話我們再進行第三次那剛剛我這邊要特別提的可能有外界在講說那為什麼沒有人來報名\n\n9\n00:02:56,492 --> 00:03:20,068\n那最近我在內部討論的時候,我是跟同仁講剛剛提到的就是剛剛前面所提的危險津貼、低交易這些如果不明媒我們爭取到了,我會希望把它放到我們的招生簡章讓有報考的議員能更瞭解如果以現在我們最基層的大概是三萬六起跳\n\n10\n00:03:21,257 --> 00:03:40,465\n那加上這些幾個危險津貼啦這個這個偏遠地區的家籍這些啦月點會大概最高的可以到4萬4我想這部分我們會把它放到裡面讓那個有興趣的這個外界的更清楚我們的心思的一個待遇\n\n11\n00:03:42,045 --> 00:04:02,123\n對次長剛剛有提到嘛事實上我們也都有看到就是招募的狀況不理想那同時這個人才的流失也是很嚴重那剛剛次長有提到就是起薪的問題那所以我們在看說我們比較就是交通部轄下的國營事業起薪台鐵公司可以說是最低的\n\n12\n00:04:02,703 --> 00:04:29,441\n雖然說我們還有這個危險津貼還有夜頂費等等可是這個應該是他們這個工作的一個性質的一個額外的我覺得這個部分不能夠算在內我覺得應該去考慮整個起薪的一個部分這樣子應該才比較能夠吸引這個人才或者是說吸引這個有興趣的人可以來投入我們台鐵的服務的一個行列是不是\n\n13\n00:04:29,801 --> 00:04:52,043\n是這個我想剛提到的這裡面我是不知道他們這裡面的起薪的部分因為當然跟工作的性質有點關係不過如果光是以這樣的一個數據來看我想未來我們大概目前是應該大概是目前報出來的那未來我想如果有那個機會也許我們可以再考量一下\n\n14\n00:04:52,717 --> 00:05:09,585\n是好因為有關這個人員缺額的部分也牽涉到整個服務品質也牽涉到行車安全因為我想這個都是大家非常關心的那我們看到台鐵公司的話到今天已經屆滿一年了可是這個安全問題卻層出不窮\n\n15\n00:05:13,067 --> 00:05:40,418\n因為我們看到這個事故率在113年度事故數是976件比這個112年增加了202件這個增加的幅度高達26%可以說是創五年來的新高那這半年來這個陸續發生的這個事故裡面又有好幾件事沒有依照這個SOP的這樣子的一個執行程序這個就牽涉到人員教育訓練的一個部分\n\n16\n00:05:41,198 --> 00:06:03,556\n那因為流動率高然後招募不到這個新的人才我想在這個教育訓練上可能就是會有發生斷層的一個問題或者是不足的問題我想這個對整個行車安全是一個很大的問題跟威脅所以在這部分不曉得這個伍次長有沒有什麼好的對策來改善這樣子的一個面臨的狀況\n\n17\n00:06:04,437 --> 00:06:28,018\n我想剛剛講這個半年這五次幾乎大部分我們去檢視大部分是因為人為人為因素就是沒有依照相關的SOP去做那這中間到底是他訓練隊長那個環境的不熟悉還是訓練的問題我想這部分我們後續第一個心理一定會去加強第二個考核部分我們會加強考核\n\n18\n00:06:28,658 --> 00:06:37,321\n那當然這個人力不足的部分我們會盡快來補足剛提到如果說我們的招募上有缺額我們會繼續再進行招募\n\n19\n00:06:38,041 --> 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