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00:01:29,072\n報告委員那這部分在舉重的部分他們一個擔心法規就是在市警賽之前選手必須要至少兩次的要檢通過才能夠參賽那一般在賽前協會會通知基金會說我們的選手有這幾個有報名那請他們來做要檢\n\n5\n00:01:37,839 --> 00:01:53,265\n那藥檢這邊他們要求選手做個人行蹤的登錄我想您可以不用解釋但原因是為什麼最主要是因為選手他在個人行蹤登錄他沒有好好的去更新他今天登錄他隔天有行程變更他沒有去即時上網去變更就會造成藥檢人員找不到他\n\n6\n00:01:53,905 --> 00:02:12,314\n好那個我這個有點問題喔下一頁就是我認為這中間有一個失聯的問題啦那體育署就像您剛講的你們跟我們講的講法是選手個人的責任因為沒有去登錄我給您看一個我們辦公室的追蹤喔下一頁那個第一個\n\n7\n00:02:13,214 --> 00:02:24,879\n我想確認的是舉協跟禁藥基金會有沒有漏接訊息這個部分您知道嗎包委員基本上舉協一定知道所以才告訴基金會說有這樣子的報名的狀況跟要求署長那你再看我們整理的2024年他們選拔國手的時候一定要繳交行蹤這個行蹤填報才能夠就是有基本的資格什麼怎麼可能會有有填行蹤然後最後找不到人\n\n8\n00:02:40,965 --> 00:02:53,082\n因為它這個就是跟賽事無關的我今天去哪要有六個月之內要有檢測而且這是國際標準第二個就是舉鞋公布的時候9月9號到15號還去國訓中心\n\n9\n00:02:57,248 --> 00:03:21,369\n那個時候只剩三個月了依照規定要六個月內檢測你只剩這些時間那舉協有沒有把名單給禁藥基金會叫他去檢測因為依照禁藥基金會的規定如果我到你說的時間你不在那裡這算違規一次一年只要三次違規就你跟我說你今天要去逛街我去那邊找不到你那這樣他就兩年之內就禁賽了所以是很嚴重的\n\n10\n00:03:24,131 --> 00:03:50,867\n那問題是舉協有把名單給禁藥基金會嗎報告委員就是他們有給他們才基金會才會知道說要要求選手繳交行蹤的填報資料但是填報完之後他會得到一個線上的一個帳號去登入Adams系統之後選手還有責任每天晚上他要去更新隔天他的行程而且他如果有更改他一定要馬上上網去更新這部分只有選手自己有辦法禁藥基金會去幾次沒有找到選手\n\n11\n00:03:51,847 --> 00:04:20,142\n兩次兩次然後選手就這樣子沒有資格了你不覺得這訓練問題很大嗎一般來講我們會要求其實我們都會希望教練能夠幫忙就是說當你發生第一次之後你應該每天晚上就要求選手把訓練行蹤更新國訓中心是我們國家的資源集訓七天到出賽前三天是說我們的就是舉重協會都不知道他們已經失格了嗎\n\n12\n00:04:20,942 --> 00:04:27,091\n包委員他們知道已經知道了應該知道了啦應該知道這應該你有問他們嗎他們知不知道對啊他們有告訴選手他們就是被失格啦\n\n13\n00:04:33,683 --> 00:04:56,391\n不是這個9月9號到15號還在那邊那是9月18號的時候知道被處刑所以他們之前都知道了還在那邊集訓報告委員這部分我回家看一下因為他們通知的時間到底是哪一天這部分我倒是沒有掌握到是因為我覺得這裡面舉協有沒有再請禁藥基金會派案去做是可以補充的嗎除非你這樣講選手不能夠互相干涉\n\n14\n00:04:58,772 --> 00:05:25,148\n所以這整個是很透明的機制它不能互相干涉舉協不能去干涉基金會那完全是獨立的要檢因為事實上這部分我有個疑問當然你講就是說我認為舉協應該是可以再請禁藥基金會派案去做因為時間不夠那我認為這件事情不管是誰的責任下一頁真的要調查清楚因為舉重協會跟禁藥基金會每年零體育署跟運發金超過六千萬的補助\n\n15\n00:05:26,589 --> 00:05:41,086\n然後經藥基金會是我們的官派組織嘛那只有它能夠做台灣只有它能夠做這個部分不是吧不一定所以國際總會不會直接在台灣的比方說有些留學生他本身具有國際藥檢資格他也會請他幫忙做\n\n16\n00:05:42,316 --> 00:06:00,835\n這個部分我覺得有點疑點那就是說明明要去參加半年內就知道了為什麼就是找兩次不到然後就讓他喪失資格我想這個部分我們這件事情我們還是一再的強調選手我們會一再的宣導教育但是選手不能完全把這個責任免除\n\n17\n00:06:01,355 --> 00:06:14,713\n這件事情我一直跟所有群眾講這是你一定要負的責任你的個人行蹤一定要記得前一天要去更新這個沒有人可以幫他做這件事情了解那不管是誰的責任就是我想我們對這個答案有疑慮是不是請你們更仔細的調查好嗎好謝謝\n\n18\n00:06:17,076 --> 00:06:20,679\n好下一頁那還有兩分鐘我想再追問那個足協的事剛剛你的回答我還是不夠滿意我想問的是說明明這個草皮需要養護可是國際賽前難道不知道國際賽因為場地都被足協借了可是你看我們這邊整理出來的女藍4月1號到3月17到3月23還讓男足去國家隊集訓這個是非常重度使用\n\n19\n00:06:43,058 --> 00:06:49,460\n不是就要把一個合格的草地要搞壞了嗎這個足協為什麼這麼做包委員這是我不能諒解足協的地方他們的技術部門就是負責挑戰者盃教練講習男主的集訓那技術部門跟競賽部門竟然沒有一個很像很好的聯繫那你不能諒解足協就這一件事而已嗎就是讓\n\n20\n00:07:02,583 --> 00:07:10,087\n紐西蘭女竹簡直就是不能接受人家飛來了發現場地不合格竹協有夠專業嗎如果專業他怎麼會事前不知道然後還讓對方飛過來我覺得這是行政怠惰所以這部分我們也要求竹協要做深刻的檢討那我跟你講怠惰不是只有這件事再往下\n\n21\n00:07:23,334 --> 00:07:39,905\n您看一下台灣男足近三年能夠用足場隊他們是非常重要我們的足場台北田徑場高雄國家體育場奇怪了男足每年都用足場女足五年上一次用足場是2019年\n\n22\n00:07:43,246 --> 00:07:54,050\n請問你知不知道男族跟女族的各自排名署長知道嗎女族明顯比男族好太多了女族明顯比男族好太多女族的排名我們辦公室查的42名國際男族166那為什麼足協這樣子是不是嚴重的重男輕女\n\n23\n00:08:06,755 --> 00:08:34,351\n報告委員我覺得這不是重男輕女啦是我們國家的A級的場地的確只有台北以及高雄不是那為什麼女足都排不到就是國家最好的場地然後上一次是五年前然後男足男足每年可以使用然後人家請了友誼賽那個是要算分數的欸還把場地給男足把場地搞壞報告委員台北跟高雄的場地在一年前就已經要預約了那他們十一月才來對都要預約還出這個問題對啊就是十一月才來要來預約已經找不到場地了\n\n24\n00:08:34,531 --> 00:08:56,343\n我覺得我是沒有辦法接受這個答案所以主席明顯有不少問題請問您要怎麼處理那個署長包委員我這部分當然主席我們要求他SOP的部分草皮養護一定要認真看待不是你只要求SOP第二個我也跟高雄市政府來談中生體育場也要轉型成一個A級場地署長他不改善你怎麼辦\n\n25\n00:08:57,323 --> 00:09:10,839\n我們就是把他的整個款項扣款扣多少報委員我們每年花在足協的國際賽去年是一千八百萬但其他的一億多都是選手相關的我們整體加起來足球學會一億五千萬\n\n26\n00:09:13,502 --> 00:09:41,784\n他的權益如果我今天扣了他選手的權益就會受到影響我當然不希望影響選手可是足協也是一個壟斷性的組織嘛我們就只有一個嘛單一協會嘛沒有錯那你要想一個方法就跟我們大學我們要給他補助國教要給他補助你不想一個方法的話最後受傷的還是選手啊沒有錯包委員除了行政書室再來場地的部分我們在努力來改善好那剛剛這幾個部分就是說這四個部分那多久之內可以給本席一個報告\n\n27\n00:09:42,830 --> 00:09:49,971\n我們應該一個月內就可以給一個月內四個問題那我就不重複時間到了好OK好加油\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n3643\t9846\t感謝昭緯一直非常的重視體育請坐請署長有請鄭署長署長我想今天我們都是一起關心運動可是我們的協會一直都有不少問題我覺得我們在監管上必須要加強下一頁這個畫面為什麼沒有辦法下一頁\n30414\t56920\t這個部分是要告訴署長跟您請教一件事我們2024年9月舉重的世青賽明明我們有六個人是代表隊領選的結果結果最後卻只有三個人可以出賽等於是一半的選手有六名是正取的可是出賽的時候為什麼因為他直接失格連比賽都沒有辦法去\n57680\t76181\t所以原因是因為選手不符合要檢規定被判失格然後我們的舉重協會禁藥防治基金會似乎在這過程中完全沒有協助是前一天才知道請問署長有掌握這件事情是為什麼嗎\n77182\t89072\t報告委員那這部分在舉重的部分他們一個擔心法規就是在市警賽之前選手必須要至少兩次的要檢通過才能夠參賽那一般在賽前協會會通知基金會說我們的選手有這幾個有報名那請他們來做要檢\n97839\t113265\t那藥檢這邊他們要求選手做個人行蹤的登錄我想您可以不用解釋但原因是為什麼最主要是因為選手他在個人行蹤登錄他沒有好好的去更新他今天登錄他隔天有行程變更他沒有去即時上網去變更就會造成藥檢人員找不到他\n113905\t132314\t好 那個我這個有點問題喔 下一頁就是我認為這中間有一個失聯的問題啦那體育署就像您剛講的你們跟我們講的講法是選手個人的責任因為沒有去登錄我給您看一個我們辦公室的追蹤喔 下一頁那個 第一個\n133214\t144879\t我想確認的是舉協跟禁藥基金會有沒有漏接訊息這個部分您知道嗎包委員基本上舉協一定知道所以才告訴基金會說有這樣子的報名的狀況跟要求署長那你再看我們整理的2024年他們選拔國手的時候一定要繳交行蹤這個行蹤填報才能夠就是有基本的資格什麼怎麼可能會有有填行蹤然後最後找不到人\n160965\t173082\t因為它這個就是跟賽事無關的我今天去哪要有六個月之內要有檢測而且這是國際標準第二個就是舉鞋公布的時候9月9號到15號還去國訓中心\n177248\t201369\t那個時候只剩三個月了依照規定要六個月內檢測你只剩這些時間那舉協有沒有把名單給禁藥基金會叫他去檢測因為依照禁藥基金會的規定如果我到你說的時間你不在那裡這算違規一次一年只要三次違規就你跟我說你今天要去逛街我去那邊找不到你那這樣他就兩年之內就禁賽了所以是很嚴重的\n204131\t230867\t那問題是舉協有把名單給禁藥基金會嗎報告委員就是他們有給他們才基金會才會知道說要要求選手繳交行蹤的填報資料但是填報完之後他會得到一個線上的一個帳號去登入Adams系統之後選手還有責任每天晚上他要去更新隔天他的行程而且他如果有更改他一定要馬上上網去更新這部分只有選手自己有辦法禁藥基金會去幾次沒有找到選手\n231847\t260142\t兩次兩次然後選手就這樣子沒有資格了你不覺得這訓練問題很大嗎一般來講我們會要求其實我們都會希望教練能夠幫忙就是說當你發生第一次之後你應該每天晚上就要求選手把訓練行蹤更新國訓中心是我們國家的資源集訓七天到出賽前三天是說我們的就是舉重協會都不知道他們已經失格了嗎\n260942\t267091\t包委員他們知道已經知道了應該知道了啦應該知道 這應該 你有問他們嗎 他們知不知道對啊 他們有告訴選手他們就是被失格啦\n273683\t296391\t不是 這個9月9號到15號還在那邊 那是9月18號的時候知道被處刑所以他們之前都知道了 還在那邊集訓報告委員 這部分我回家看一下因為他們通知的時間到底是哪一天 這部分我倒是沒有掌握到是 因為我覺得這裡面 舉協有沒有再請禁藥基金會派案去做是可以補充的嗎 除非你這樣講選手不能夠互相干涉\n298772\t325148\t所以這整個是很透明的機制它不能互相干涉舉協不能去干涉基金會那完全是獨立的要檢因為事實上這部分我有個疑問當然你講就是說我認為舉協應該是可以再請禁藥基金會派案去做因為時間不夠那我認為這件事情不管是誰的責任下一頁真的要調查清楚因為舉重協會跟禁藥基金會每年零體育署跟運發金超過六千萬的補助\n326589\t341086\t然後經藥基金會是我們的官派組織嘛那只有它能夠做台灣只有它能夠做這個部分不是吧不一定所以國際總會不會直接在台灣的比方說有些留學生他本身具有國際藥檢資格他也會請他幫忙做\n342316\t360835\t這個部分我覺得有點疑點那就是說明明要去參加半年內就知道了為什麼就是找兩次不到然後就讓他喪失資格我想這個部分我們這件事情我們還是一再的強調選手我們會一再的宣導教育但是選手不能完全把這個責任免除\n361355\t374713\t這件事情我一直跟所有群眾講這是你一定要負的責任你的個人行蹤一定要記得前一天要去更新這個沒有人可以幫他做這件事情了解那不管是誰的責任就是我想我們對這個答案有疑慮是不是請你們更仔細的調查好嗎好 謝謝\n377076\t380679\t好 下一頁那還有兩分鐘我想再追問那個足協的事剛剛你的回答我還是不夠滿意我想問的是說明明這個草皮需要養護可是國際賽前難道不知道國際賽因為場地都被足協借了可是你看我們這邊整理出來的女藍4月1號到3月17到3月23還讓男足去國家隊集訓這個是非常重度使用\n403058\t409460\t不是就要把一個合格的草地要搞壞了嗎這個足協為什麼這麼做包委員這是我不能諒解足協的地方他們的技術部門就是負責挑戰者盃教練講習男主的集訓那技術部門跟競賽部門竟然沒有一個很像很好的聯繫那你不能諒解足協就這一件事而已嗎就是讓\n422583\t430087\t紐西蘭女竹簡直就是不能接受人家飛來了發現場地不合格竹協有夠專業嗎如果專業他怎麼會事前不知道然後還讓對方飛過來我覺得這是行政怠惰所以這部分我們也要求竹協要做深刻的檢討那我跟你講怠惰不是只有這件事再往下\n443334\t459905\t您看一下台灣男足近三年能夠用足場隊他們是非常重要我們的足場台北田徑場高雄國家體育場奇怪了男足每年都用足場女足五年上一次用足場是2019年\n463246\t474050\t請問你知不知道男族跟女族的各自排名 署長知道嗎女族明顯比男族好太多了女族明顯比男族好太多女族的排名我們辦公室查的42名國際 男族166那為什麼 足協這樣子是不是嚴重的重男輕女\n486755\t514351\t報告委員我覺得這不是重男輕女啦是我們國家的A級的場地的確只有台北以及高雄不是那為什麼女足都排不到就是國家最好的場地然後上一次是五年前然後男足男足每年可以使用然後人家請了友誼賽那個是要算分數的欸還把場地給男足把場地搞壞報告委員台北跟高雄的場地在一年前就已經要預約了那他們十一月才來對都要預約還出這個問題對啊就是十一月才來要來預約已經找不到場地了\n514531\t536343\t我覺得我是沒有辦法接受這個答案所以主席明顯有不少問題請問您要怎麼處理那個署長包委員我這部分當然主席我們要求他SOP的部分草皮養護一定要認真看待不是你只要求SOP第二個我也跟高雄市政府來談中生體育場也要轉型成一個A級場地署長他不改善你怎麼辦\n537323\t550839\t我們就是把他的整個款項扣款扣多少報委員我們每年花在足協的國際賽去年是一千八百萬但其他的一億多都是選手相關的我們整體加起來足球學會一億五千萬\n553502\t581784\t他的權益如果我今天扣了他選手的權益就會受到影響我當然不希望影響選手可是足協也是一個壟斷性的組織嘛我們就只有一個嘛單一協會嘛沒有錯那你要想一個方法就跟我們大學我們要給他補助國教要給他補助你不想一個方法的話最後受傷的還是選手啊沒有錯 包委員除了行政書室再來場地的部分我們在努力來改善好 那剛剛這幾個部分就是說這四個部分那多久之內可以給本席一個報告\n582830\t589971\t我們應該一個月內就可以給一個月內四個問題那我就不重複時間到了好OK好加油\n","txt":"感謝昭緯一直非常的重視體育請坐請署長有請鄭署長署長我想今天我們都是一起關心運動可是我們的協會一直都有不少問題我覺得我們在監管上必須要加強下一頁這個畫面為什麼沒有辦法下一頁\n這個部分是要告訴署長跟您請教一件事我們2024年9月舉重的世青賽明明我們有六個人是代表隊領選的結果結果最後卻只有三個人可以出賽等於是一半的選手有六名是正取的可是出賽的時候為什麼因為他直接失格連比賽都沒有辦法去\n所以原因是因為選手不符合要檢規定被判失格然後我們的舉重協會禁藥防治基金會似乎在這過程中完全沒有協助是前一天才知道請問署長有掌握這件事情是為什麼嗎\n報告委員那這部分在舉重的部分他們一個擔心法規就是在市警賽之前選手必須要至少兩次的要檢通過才能夠參賽那一般在賽前協會會通知基金會說我們的選手有這幾個有報名那請他們來做要檢\n那藥檢這邊他們要求選手做個人行蹤的登錄我想您可以不用解釋但原因是為什麼最主要是因為選手他在個人行蹤登錄他沒有好好的去更新他今天登錄他隔天有行程變更他沒有去即時上網去變更就會造成藥檢人員找不到他\n好 那個我這個有點問題喔 下一頁就是我認為這中間有一個失聯的問題啦那體育署就像您剛講的你們跟我們講的講法是選手個人的責任因為沒有去登錄我給您看一個我們辦公室的追蹤喔 下一頁那個 第一個\n我想確認的是舉協跟禁藥基金會有沒有漏接訊息這個部分您知道嗎包委員基本上舉協一定知道所以才告訴基金會說有這樣子的報名的狀況跟要求署長那你再看我們整理的2024年他們選拔國手的時候一定要繳交行蹤這個行蹤填報才能夠就是有基本的資格什麼怎麼可能會有有填行蹤然後最後找不到人\n因為它這個就是跟賽事無關的我今天去哪要有六個月之內要有檢測而且這是國際標準第二個就是舉鞋公布的時候9月9號到15號還去國訓中心\n那個時候只剩三個月了依照規定要六個月內檢測你只剩這些時間那舉協有沒有把名單給禁藥基金會叫他去檢測因為依照禁藥基金會的規定如果我到你說的時間你不在那裡這算違規一次一年只要三次違規就你跟我說你今天要去逛街我去那邊找不到你那這樣他就兩年之內就禁賽了所以是很嚴重的\n那問題是舉協有把名單給禁藥基金會嗎報告委員就是他們有給他們才基金會才會知道說要要求選手繳交行蹤的填報資料但是填報完之後他會得到一個線上的一個帳號去登入Adams系統之後選手還有責任每天晚上他要去更新隔天他的行程而且他如果有更改他一定要馬上上網去更新這部分只有選手自己有辦法禁藥基金會去幾次沒有找到選手\n兩次兩次然後選手就這樣子沒有資格了你不覺得這訓練問題很大嗎一般來講我們會要求其實我們都會希望教練能夠幫忙就是說當你發生第一次之後你應該每天晚上就要求選手把訓練行蹤更新國訓中心是我們國家的資源集訓七天到出賽前三天是說我們的就是舉重協會都不知道他們已經失格了嗎\n包委員他們知道已經知道了應該知道了啦應該知道 這應該 你有問他們嗎 他們知不知道對啊 他們有告訴選手他們就是被失格啦\n不是 這個9月9號到15號還在那邊 那是9月18號的時候知道被處刑所以他們之前都知道了 還在那邊集訓報告委員 這部分我回家看一下因為他們通知的時間到底是哪一天 這部分我倒是沒有掌握到是 因為我覺得這裡面 舉協有沒有再請禁藥基金會派案去做是可以補充的嗎 除非你這樣講選手不能夠互相干涉\n所以這整個是很透明的機制它不能互相干涉舉協不能去干涉基金會那完全是獨立的要檢因為事實上這部分我有個疑問當然你講就是說我認為舉協應該是可以再請禁藥基金會派案去做因為時間不夠那我認為這件事情不管是誰的責任下一頁真的要調查清楚因為舉重協會跟禁藥基金會每年零體育署跟運發金超過六千萬的補助\n然後經藥基金會是我們的官派組織嘛那只有它能夠做台灣只有它能夠做這個部分不是吧不一定所以國際總會不會直接在台灣的比方說有些留學生他本身具有國際藥檢資格他也會請他幫忙做\n這個部分我覺得有點疑點那就是說明明要去參加半年內就知道了為什麼就是找兩次不到然後就讓他喪失資格我想這個部分我們這件事情我們還是一再的強調選手我們會一再的宣導教育但是選手不能完全把這個責任免除\n這件事情我一直跟所有群眾講這是你一定要負的責任你的個人行蹤一定要記得前一天要去更新這個沒有人可以幫他做這件事情了解那不管是誰的責任就是我想我們對這個答案有疑慮是不是請你們更仔細的調查好嗎好 謝謝\n好 下一頁那還有兩分鐘我想再追問那個足協的事剛剛你的回答我還是不夠滿意我想問的是說明明這個草皮需要養護可是國際賽前難道不知道國際賽因為場地都被足協借了可是你看我們這邊整理出來的女藍4月1號到3月17到3月23還讓男足去國家隊集訓這個是非常重度使用\n不是就要把一個合格的草地要搞壞了嗎這個足協為什麼這麼做包委員這是我不能諒解足協的地方他們的技術部門就是負責挑戰者盃教練講習男主的集訓那技術部門跟競賽部門竟然沒有一個很像很好的聯繫那你不能諒解足協就這一件事而已嗎就是讓\n紐西蘭女竹簡直就是不能接受人家飛來了發現場地不合格竹協有夠專業嗎如果專業他怎麼會事前不知道然後還讓對方飛過來我覺得這是行政怠惰所以這部分我們也要求竹協要做深刻的檢討那我跟你講怠惰不是只有這件事再往下\n您看一下台灣男足近三年能夠用足場隊他們是非常重要我們的足場台北田徑場高雄國家體育場奇怪了男足每年都用足場女足五年上一次用足場是2019年\n請問你知不知道男族跟女族的各自排名 署長知道嗎女族明顯比男族好太多了女族明顯比男族好太多女族的排名我們辦公室查的42名國際 男族166那為什麼 足協這樣子是不是嚴重的重男輕女\n報告委員我覺得這不是重男輕女啦是我們國家的A級的場地的確只有台北以及高雄不是那為什麼女足都排不到就是國家最好的場地然後上一次是五年前然後男足男足每年可以使用然後人家請了友誼賽那個是要算分數的欸還把場地給男足把場地搞壞報告委員台北跟高雄的場地在一年前就已經要預約了那他們十一月才來對都要預約還出這個問題對啊就是十一月才來要來預約已經找不到場地了\n我覺得我是沒有辦法接受這個答案所以主席明顯有不少問題請問您要怎麼處理那個署長包委員我這部分當然主席我們要求他SOP的部分草皮養護一定要認真看待不是你只要求SOP第二個我也跟高雄市政府來談中生體育場也要轉型成一個A級場地署長他不改善你怎麼辦\n我們就是把他的整個款項扣款扣多少報委員我們每年花在足協的國際賽去年是一千八百萬但其他的一億多都是選手相關的我們整體加起來足球學會一億五千萬\n他的權益如果我今天扣了他選手的權益就會受到影響我當然不希望影響選手可是足協也是一個壟斷性的組織嘛我們就只有一個嘛單一協會嘛沒有錯那你要想一個方法就跟我們大學我們要給他補助國教要給他補助你不想一個方法的話最後受傷的還是選手啊沒有錯 包委員除了行政書室再來場地的部分我們在努力來改善好 那剛剛這幾個部分就是說這四個部分那多久之內可以給本席一個報告\n我們應該一個月內就可以給一個月內四個問題那我就不重複時間到了好OK好加油\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:03.643 --> 00:09.846\n感謝昭緯一直非常的重視體育請坐請署長有請鄭署長署長我想今天我們都是一起關心運動可是我們的協會一直都有不少問題我覺得我們在監管上必須要加強下一頁這個畫面為什麼沒有辦法下一頁\n\n00:30.414 --> 00:56.920\n這個部分是要告訴署長跟您請教一件事我們2024年9月舉重的世青賽明明我們有六個人是代表隊領選的結果結果最後卻只有三個人可以出賽等於是一半的選手有六名是正取的可是出賽的時候為什麼因為他直接失格連比賽都沒有辦法去\n\n00:57.680 --> 01:16.181\n所以原因是因為選手不符合要檢規定被判失格然後我們的舉重協會禁藥防治基金會似乎在這過程中完全沒有協助是前一天才知道請問署長有掌握這件事情是為什麼嗎\n\n01:17.182 --> 01:29.072\n報告委員那這部分在舉重的部分他們一個擔心法規就是在市警賽之前選手必須要至少兩次的要檢通過才能夠參賽那一般在賽前協會會通知基金會說我們的選手有這幾個有報名那請他們來做要檢\n\n01:37.839 --> 01:53.265\n那藥檢這邊他們要求選手做個人行蹤的登錄我想您可以不用解釋但原因是為什麼最主要是因為選手他在個人行蹤登錄他沒有好好的去更新他今天登錄他隔天有行程變更他沒有去即時上網去變更就會造成藥檢人員找不到他\n\n01:53.905 --> 02:12.314\n好那個我這個有點問題喔下一頁就是我認為這中間有一個失聯的問題啦那體育署就像您剛講的你們跟我們講的講法是選手個人的責任因為沒有去登錄我給您看一個我們辦公室的追蹤喔下一頁那個第一個\n\n02:13.214 --> 02:24.879\n我想確認的是舉協跟禁藥基金會有沒有漏接訊息這個部分您知道嗎包委員基本上舉協一定知道所以才告訴基金會說有這樣子的報名的狀況跟要求署長那你再看我們整理的2024年他們選拔國手的時候一定要繳交行蹤這個行蹤填報才能夠就是有基本的資格什麼怎麼可能會有有填行蹤然後最後找不到人\n\n02:40.965 --> 02:53.082\n因為它這個就是跟賽事無關的我今天去哪要有六個月之內要有檢測而且這是國際標準第二個就是舉鞋公布的時候9月9號到15號還去國訓中心\n\n02:57.248 --> 03:21.369\n那個時候只剩三個月了依照規定要六個月內檢測你只剩這些時間那舉協有沒有把名單給禁藥基金會叫他去檢測因為依照禁藥基金會的規定如果我到你說的時間你不在那裡這算違規一次一年只要三次違規就你跟我說你今天要去逛街我去那邊找不到你那這樣他就兩年之內就禁賽了所以是很嚴重的\n\n03:24.131 --> 03:50.867\n那問題是舉協有把名單給禁藥基金會嗎報告委員就是他們有給他們才基金會才會知道說要要求選手繳交行蹤的填報資料但是填報完之後他會得到一個線上的一個帳號去登入Adams系統之後選手還有責任每天晚上他要去更新隔天他的行程而且他如果有更改他一定要馬上上網去更新這部分只有選手自己有辦法禁藥基金會去幾次沒有找到選手\n\n03:51.847 --> 04:20.142\n兩次兩次然後選手就這樣子沒有資格了你不覺得這訓練問題很大嗎一般來講我們會要求其實我們都會希望教練能夠幫忙就是說當你發生第一次之後你應該每天晚上就要求選手把訓練行蹤更新國訓中心是我們國家的資源集訓七天到出賽前三天是說我們的就是舉重協會都不知道他們已經失格了嗎\n\n04:20.942 --> 04:27.091\n包委員他們知道已經知道了應該知道了啦應該知道這應該你有問他們嗎他們知不知道對啊他們有告訴選手他們就是被失格啦\n\n04:33.683 --> 04:56.391\n不是這個9月9號到15號還在那邊那是9月18號的時候知道被處刑所以他們之前都知道了還在那邊集訓報告委員這部分我回家看一下因為他們通知的時間到底是哪一天這部分我倒是沒有掌握到是因為我覺得這裡面舉協有沒有再請禁藥基金會派案去做是可以補充的嗎除非你這樣講選手不能夠互相干涉\n\n04:58.772 --> 05:25.148\n所以這整個是很透明的機制它不能互相干涉舉協不能去干涉基金會那完全是獨立的要檢因為事實上這部分我有個疑問當然你講就是說我認為舉協應該是可以再請禁藥基金會派案去做因為時間不夠那我認為這件事情不管是誰的責任下一頁真的要調查清楚因為舉重協會跟禁藥基金會每年零體育署跟運發金超過六千萬的補助\n\n05:26.589 --> 05:41.086\n然後經藥基金會是我們的官派組織嘛那只有它能夠做台灣只有它能夠做這個部分不是吧不一定所以國際總會不會直接在台灣的比方說有些留學生他本身具有國際藥檢資格他也會請他幫忙做\n\n05:42.316 --> 06:00.835\n這個部分我覺得有點疑點那就是說明明要去參加半年內就知道了為什麼就是找兩次不到然後就讓他喪失資格我想這個部分我們這件事情我們還是一再的強調選手我們會一再的宣導教育但是選手不能完全把這個責任免除\n\n06:01.355 --> 06:14.713\n這件事情我一直跟所有群眾講這是你一定要負的責任你的個人行蹤一定要記得前一天要去更新這個沒有人可以幫他做這件事情了解那不管是誰的責任就是我想我們對這個答案有疑慮是不是請你們更仔細的調查好嗎好謝謝\n\n06:17.076 --> 06:20.679\n好下一頁那還有兩分鐘我想再追問那個足協的事剛剛你的回答我還是不夠滿意我想問的是說明明這個草皮需要養護可是國際賽前難道不知道國際賽因為場地都被足協借了可是你看我們這邊整理出來的女藍4月1號到3月17到3月23還讓男足去國家隊集訓這個是非常重度使用\n\n06:43.058 --> 06:49.460\n不是就要把一個合格的草地要搞壞了嗎這個足協為什麼這麼做包委員這是我不能諒解足協的地方他們的技術部門就是負責挑戰者盃教練講習男主的集訓那技術部門跟競賽部門竟然沒有一個很像很好的聯繫那你不能諒解足協就這一件事而已嗎就是讓\n\n07:02.583 --> 07:10.087\n紐西蘭女竹簡直就是不能接受人家飛來了發現場地不合格竹協有夠專業嗎如果專業他怎麼會事前不知道然後還讓對方飛過來我覺得這是行政怠惰所以這部分我們也要求竹協要做深刻的檢討那我跟你講怠惰不是只有這件事再往下\n\n07:23.334 --> 07:39.905\n您看一下台灣男足近三年能夠用足場隊他們是非常重要我們的足場台北田徑場高雄國家體育場奇怪了男足每年都用足場女足五年上一次用足場是2019年\n\n07:43.246 --> 07:54.050\n請問你知不知道男族跟女族的各自排名署長知道嗎女族明顯比男族好太多了女族明顯比男族好太多女族的排名我們辦公室查的42名國際男族166那為什麼足協這樣子是不是嚴重的重男輕女\n\n08:06.755 --> 08:34.351\n報告委員我覺得這不是重男輕女啦是我們國家的A級的場地的確只有台北以及高雄不是那為什麼女足都排不到就是國家最好的場地然後上一次是五年前然後男足男足每年可以使用然後人家請了友誼賽那個是要算分數的欸還把場地給男足把場地搞壞報告委員台北跟高雄的場地在一年前就已經要預約了那他們十一月才來對都要預約還出這個問題對啊就是十一月才來要來預約已經找不到場地了\n\n08:34.531 --> 08:56.343\n我覺得我是沒有辦法接受這個答案所以主席明顯有不少問題請問您要怎麼處理那個署長包委員我這部分當然主席我們要求他SOP的部分草皮養護一定要認真看待不是你只要求SOP第二個我也跟高雄市政府來談中生體育場也要轉型成一個A級場地署長他不改善你怎麼辦\n\n08:57.323 --> 09:10.839\n我們就是把他的整個款項扣款扣多少報委員我們每年花在足協的國際賽去年是一千八百萬但其他的一億多都是選手相關的我們整體加起來足球學會一億五千萬\n\n09:13.502 --> 09:41.784\n他的權益如果我今天扣了他選手的權益就會受到影響我當然不希望影響選手可是足協也是一個壟斷性的組織嘛我們就只有一個嘛單一協會嘛沒有錯那你要想一個方法就跟我們大學我們要給他補助國教要給他補助你不想一個方法的話最後受傷的還是選手啊沒有錯包委員除了行政書室再來場地的部分我們在努力來改善好那剛剛這幾個部分就是說這四個部分那多久之內可以給本席一個報告\n\n09:42.830 --> 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