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00:00:29,690\n好謝謝昭偉請一下陳士凱部長觀光署周署長請部長署長部長應該是去年9月就任吧是到現在也應該半年多了是那有關於觀光發展是交通部重要的責任跟重要的工作這是我們來看整體的觀光的發展在這一年多來的一個狀況\n\n2\n00:00:30,751 --> 00:00:48,157\n我們現在國旅逐漸恢復到疫情之前的水準那這個表現是算勉強及格當然還有很多的議題包括這個交通的路線房價過高等等他的這種觀光的品質還是必須要去做改進\n\n3\n00:00:49,897 --> 00:01:15,073\n國際旅遊的部分我們的旅遊跟疫情之前來比較我認為表現我必須要很嚴肅的講表現是不及格的我們來看出國的旅客人次我們台灣的出國旅客人次如果2019跟2024來做比較現在出國的人數是越來越多也逐漸恢復到疫情之前\n\n4\n00:01:15,413 --> 00:01:30,950\n之前的這個水準恢復到98.52的這樣的一個水準而且必須要注意年輕人出國的比例越來越高越來越不想在台灣國內旅遊那另外來台的旅客人次更是讓我們擔憂\n\n5\n00:01:33,012 --> 00:01:35,034\n在2024年只有785萬那2019年有1186萬的這樣的一個旅遊人士我們恢復的比例只有66.23\n\n6\n00:01:48,356 --> 00:02:08,237\n部長這樣是不行的來你有什麼想法你來半年多了對觀光的議題我知道你也有在進行了解來你有什麼想法報告委員其實來台旅客的人次這幾年雖然都在增加但是我們復甦的速度實在是比起其他國家有些慢那這個部分我們應該要再加強\n\n7\n00:02:08,957 --> 00:02:25,015\n我覺得幾個點包含剛剛洪牧凱委員在質詢的內容就是說有一些國外的旅客要來亞洲的時候台灣不是首選甚至連前面幾名都排不到這個是我們要檢討的那也就是我們在國外的行銷剛剛委員有提到就是現在年輕人很喜歡出國\n\n8\n00:02:25,876 --> 00:02:51,792\n那他出國的時候他心裡面一定有一個圖像哪個地方好玩他想去代表台灣現在在其他各國的年輕人或旅客的心裡面的那個圖像不夠明顯所以第一個我們的行銷的問題必須要解決那行銷我們的費用有開始漸漸在增加也有漸漸看到成效不過行銷的方式我們可以再檢討行銷的方式會不會是沒有剛好打中人心這個部分我們要去思考那第二個就是說\n\n9\n00:02:52,893 --> 00:03:08,362\n包含剛剛所講的行銷我們在各國的服務據點在過去是不夠的那我們在這兩年其實也在各國的觀光服務據點也不斷在提升這個部分是很重要的處理第三其實更重要的是旅客來了台灣第一次之後會不會想第二次\n\n10\n00:03:09,002 --> 00:03:35,207\n如果要讓他來第二次那品質就很重要台灣要好玩到品質夠好那這個部分牽扯到人才我們的人才夠不夠觀光的人才所以我們觀光研訓院會在今年年底會來成立觀光的人才這個是打底的工作我們必須把它打好讓國外的旅客來到台灣之後第一次還會有第二次甚至會帶其他的旅客來部長剛才提到有關於國外的旅客對於台灣的觀光印象到底是什麼\n\n11\n00:03:36,067 --> 00:04:01,743\n我們有國際觀光宣傳的這個經費在觀光基金裡面有這種精準課員的開拓計畫今年應該編列了大概17億左右17億我們的觀光宣導有這麼多的經費但是我認為一直做得不好所有的觀光旅客國際旅客以這個2024年觀光署自己的這個報告\n\n12\n00:04:04,162 --> 00:04:28,246\n國際旅客對台灣的公關印象是什麼就是101就是故宮就是像西門町信義商業區這些再加個淡水頂多再加上阿里山等等日月台他們的印象一直是這樣我們對於各地的宣導不足建立區域旅遊品牌的這種特色\n\n13\n00:04:29,568 --> 00:04:48,759\n火力不夠做得也不好宣導也不夠然後這十幾年來一直要求觀光署針對除了這些觀光客既有的印象之外你應該去加強其他地區的區域的這個特色這個必須要去做改進另外我們來看一下我們以日本的經驗來說現在\n\n14\n00:04:54,830 --> 00:05:09,261\n有很多人說我們希望特別的國家來支持台灣的旅遊就是說中國啦中國來我們的觀光業就能夠一飛沖天就能大幅的一個發展我們來看2024年各國國際旅客的統計日本3687萬人次\n\n15\n00:05:17,850 --> 00:05:26,453\n它超越2019已經是創下歷史新高我們才66%韓國有1637萬人次是2019年的94%我們66%2024年到日本的中國旅客比2019年還要少少了260萬但是他們東亞跟歐美的旅客是大幅增加國際旅客創下歷史新高\n\n16\n00:05:49,209 --> 00:06:06,678\n部長你要特別注意看2024年中國出國的人次統計他比2019年還要少874萬人次我們推動公共發展是要依靠良好的旅遊品質建立區域旅遊的特色台灣的特色\n\n17\n00:06:07,538 --> 00:06:34,751\n然後不是依靠特定的國家不然簡單說明一下報告委員確實我們這幾年也在轉型當中我們在疫情之前跟現在相比的話中國的旅客減少200多萬人次但我們台灣最近以去年來講比起前年我們日本客增加了百分之四十幾韓國客也增加了百分之三四十尤其是歐美客歐美客我們增加百分之二十幾我們現在正在拓展中國以外的重要的旅客的區域\n\n18\n00:06:36,051 --> 00:06:55,106\n那這個部分其實在去年有一些斬獲不過我們還可以再加強這個部分確實是要好好的努力要向日本學習部長我們來看看我們觀光面臨什麼困境第一個觀光的同質性高缺乏特色魅力缺乏區域的景點品牌我們看台灣的老街\n\n19\n00:06:56,161 --> 00:07:19,677\n特色都差不多賣的東西也差不多我們的駱魚松你種我也種大家都在種櫻花也是你種我也種還有像什麼觀景台觀景高台你做我也做你有清水公園我也來弄個清水公園他沒有形成地方的這種區域旅遊的特色啦另外旅遊品質不佳\n\n20\n00:07:21,701 --> 00:07:47,810\n疫情期間我們的轉型跟改善做得不夠這個在當初疫情剛發生的時候我就一再督促以日本香港新加坡韓國他們的具體的長期的中長期的改善計畫我們沒有落實我們沒有做好另外數位運用資訊及交通的整合不佳這也是個問題宣傳與特色無法結合缺乏核心的客群\n\n21\n00:07:49,704 --> 00:08:14,427\n部長這種同質性高然後區域的特色無法建立你們有什麼具體的做法跟想法這個部分當然在疫情的過程當中應該是我們打底的好時機確實過去有幾年的時間該做沒做這個我們虛心檢討那我們現在要把整整體的旅遊品質要建立起來包含我們跟各地的商圈也要溝通大家有沒有各自的觀光的特色\n\n22\n00:08:15,188 --> 00:08:31,540\n以商業來講有沒有觀光的特色可以提供給旅客這個部分大家有一點區隔性會比較好那委員所提到的數位應用的部分我們跟公研院那邊也是有在做合作也就是說數位應用的部分我們過去沒有跟上包含資訊應用的部分我們現在正在加強當中好時間先暫停\n\n23\n00:08:45,370 --> 00:08:46,312\n感谢观看\n\n24\n00:08:55,751 --> 00:09:15,732\n好希望大家都平安大家平安另外我們對於相關的觀光旅遊補助當然有效但不是長遠之計那我們應該以區域特色的這樣的一個建立來建立長期觀光發展的一個模式我們應該仿效日本的這種政策的白皮書\n\n25\n00:09:16,713 --> 00:09:41,540\n召集地方的歷史文化或具有產業特色的自治團體或者是組織來結合當地的民眾以及中小微型的商家共同的參與共同的參與來建立地方參與的發展模式以地方特色為基礎來規劃觀光文化品牌的這種產業的經營策略來建立具有地方特色的觀光品牌\n\n26\n00:09:42,688 --> 00:09:51,395\n二十多年前我去紐約的旅遊局參訪紐約的旅遊局他們市政府的旅遊局他們經費一半是\n\n27\n00:09:53,258 --> 00:10:19,472\n這個觀光產業界出的錢一半是政府出的錢然後他們共同推出適合的旅遊局的局長人選來推動他們的一個旅遊要有產業界的參與我一直提醒署長還有部長要跟觀光產業界多對話了解困境來以及提供相關的建議讓他們知道政府的努力那\n\n28\n00:10:20,912 --> 00:10:47,684\n國際的宣傳這個部分剛才我已經提過了希望你們去加強啊對於有效的這種你們的計畫都都寫得很清楚啊叫有效開拓客源的計畫但是看起來都無效啊花了17億18億然後國際旅客的印象還是固定就是西門町啦101啦龍山寺啦新的旅遊圖像應該要被建立啦\n\n29\n00:10:48,072 --> 00:11:03,000\n各地的這樣的一個中南部的花東的都要納入這樣的一個觀光旅遊特色另外我們國際旅客減少啊當然花蓮的這個地震也是有影響尤其是日本跟韓國的旅客啊\n\n30\n00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:22,998\n他們對於太魯閣修立的壯觀的景色是觀光的一大重點但是因為地震之後相關的這些日本、韓國的旅客來的意願就比較降低這也是我們國際觀光的一個問題那針對花蓮跟台東的旅遊\n\n31\n00:11:24,340 --> 00:11:41,179\n太魯閣這樣的一個特色啊當然需要生態的休養生息這是要一段時間的啦要一段時間我認為啊應該針對花東的旅遊啊應該要建立他新的區域旅遊的一個品牌是\n\n32\n00:11:41,819 --> 00:11:57,567\n建立套裝新的套裝旅遊路線投注資源讓整體的台灣的觀光能夠整體串聯起來交通的問題啦這因為時間的關係那希望部長多加的督促我們對於觀光的\n\n33\n00:11:59,528 --> 00:12:14,809\n成績國旅真的是勉強及格對於國際旅遊的這樣一個人次的成長緩慢停滯我們真的是非常的不滿意這個部長跟署長要全力的督促這個要努力好謝謝委員\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n3308\t29690\t好 謝謝昭偉 請一下陳士凱部長 觀光署周署長請部長署長部長應該是去年9月就任吧是到現在也應該半年多了是那有關於觀光發展是交通部重要的責任跟重要的工作這是我們來看整體的觀光的發展在這一年多來的一個狀況\n30751\t48157\t我們現在國旅逐漸恢復到疫情之前的水準那這個表現是算勉強及格當然還有很多的議題包括這個交通的路線房價過高等等他的這種觀光的品質還是必須要去做改進\n49897\t75073\t國際旅遊的部分我們的旅遊跟疫情之前來比較我認為表現我必須要很嚴肅的講表現是不及格的我們來看出國的旅客人次我們台灣的出國旅客人次如果2019跟2024來做比較現在出國的人數是越來越多也逐漸恢復到疫情之前\n75413\t90950\t之前的這個水準恢復到98.52的這樣的一個水準而且必須要注意年輕人出國的比例越來越高越來越不想在台灣國內旅遊那另外來台的旅客人次更是讓我們擔憂\n93012\t95034\t在2024年只有785萬那2019年有1186萬的這樣的一個旅遊人士我們恢復的比例只有66.23\n108356\t128237\t部長這樣是不行的來你有什麼想法你來半年多了對觀光的議題我知道你也有在進行了解來你有什麼想法報告委員其實來台旅客的人次這幾年雖然都在增加但是我們復甦的速度實在是比起其他國家有些慢那這個部分我們應該要再加強\n128957\t145015\t我覺得幾個點包含剛剛洪牧凱委員在質詢的內容就是說有一些國外的旅客要來亞洲的時候台灣不是首選甚至連前面幾名都排不到這個是我們要檢討的那也就是我們在國外的行銷剛剛委員有提到就是現在年輕人很喜歡出國\n145876\t171792\t那他出國的時候他心裡面一定有一個圖像哪個地方好玩他想去代表台灣現在在其他各國的年輕人或旅客的心裡面的那個圖像不夠明顯所以第一個我們的行銷的問題必須要解決那行銷我們的費用有開始漸漸在增加也有漸漸看到成效不過行銷的方式我們可以再檢討行銷的方式會不會是沒有剛好打中人心這個部分我們要去思考那第二個就是說\n172893\t188362\t包含剛剛所講的行銷我們在各國的服務據點在過去是不夠的那我們在這兩年其實也在各國的觀光服務據點也不斷在提升這個部分是很重要的處理第三其實更重要的是旅客來了台灣第一次之後會不會想第二次\n189002\t215207\t如果要讓他來第二次那品質就很重要台灣要好玩到品質夠好那這個部分牽扯到人才我們的人才夠不夠觀光的人才所以我們觀光研訓院會在今年年底會來成立觀光的人才這個是打底的工作我們必須把它打好讓國外的旅客來到台灣之後第一次還會有第二次甚至會帶其他的旅客來部長剛才提到有關於國外的旅客對於台灣的觀光印象到底是什麼\n216067\t241743\t我們有國際觀光宣傳的這個經費在觀光基金裡面有這種精準課員的開拓計畫今年應該編列了大概17億左右17億我們的觀光宣導有這麼多的經費但是我認為一直做得不好所有的觀光旅客 國際旅客以這個2024年觀光署自己的這個報告\n244162\t268246\t國際旅客對台灣的公關印象是什麼就是101就是故宮就是像西門町信義商業區這些再加個淡水頂多再加上阿里山等等日月台他們的印象一直是這樣我們對於各地的宣導不足建立區域旅遊品牌的這種特色\n269568\t288759\t火力不夠做得也不好宣導也不夠然後這十幾年來一直要求觀光署針對除了這些觀光客既有的印象之外你應該去加強其他地區的區域的這個特色這個必須要去做改進另外我們來看一下我們以日本的經驗來說現在\n294830\t309261\t有很多人說我們希望特別的國家來支持台灣的旅遊就是說中國啦中國來我們的觀光業就能夠一飛沖天就能大幅的一個發展我們來看2024年各國國際旅客的統計日本3687萬人次\n317850\t326453\t它超越2019已經是創下歷史新高我們才66%韓國有1637萬人次是2019年的94%我們66%2024年到日本的中國旅客比2019年還要少 少了260萬但是他們東亞跟歐美的旅客是大幅增加國際旅客創下歷史新高\n349209\t366678\t部長你要特別注意看2024年中國出國的人次統計他比2019年還要少874萬人次我們推動公共發展是要依靠良好的旅遊品質建立區域旅遊的特色台灣的特色\n367538\t394751\t然後不是依靠特定的國家不然簡單說明一下報告委員確實我們這幾年也在轉型當中我們在疫情之前跟現在相比的話中國的旅客減少200多萬人次但我們台灣最近以去年來講比起前年我們日本客增加了百分之四十幾韓國客也增加了百分之三四十尤其是歐美客歐美客我們增加百分之二十幾我們現在正在拓展中國以外的重要的旅客的區域\n396051\t415106\t那這個部分其實在去年有一些斬獲不過我們還可以再加強這個部分確實是要好好的努力要向日本學習部長我們來看看我們觀光面臨什麼困境第一個觀光的同質性高缺乏特色魅力缺乏區域的景點品牌我們看台灣的老街\n416161\t439677\t特色都差不多賣的東西也差不多我們的駱魚松你種我也種大家都在種櫻花也是你種我也種還有像什麼觀景台觀景高台你做我也做你有清水公園我也來弄個清水公園他沒有形成地方的這種區域旅遊的特色啦另外旅遊品質不佳\n441701\t467810\t疫情期間我們的轉型跟改善做得不夠這個在當初疫情剛發生的時候我就一再督促以日本香港新加坡韓國他們的具體的長期的中長期的改善計畫我們沒有落實我們沒有做好另外數位運用資訊及交通的整合不佳這也是個問題宣傳與特色無法結合缺乏核心的客群\n469704\t494427\t部長這種同質性高然後區域的特色無法建立你們有什麼具體的做法跟想法這個部分當然在疫情的過程當中應該是我們打底的好時機確實過去有幾年的時間該做沒做這個我們虛心檢討那我們現在要把整整體的旅遊品質要建立起來包含我們跟各地的商圈也要溝通大家有沒有各自的觀光的特色\n495188\t511540\t以商業來講有沒有觀光的特色可以提供給旅客這個部分大家有一點區隔性會比較好那委員所提到的數位應用的部分我們跟公研院那邊也是有在做合作也就是說數位應用的部分我們過去沒有跟上包含資訊應用的部分我們現在正在加強當中好時間先暫停\n525370\t526312\t感谢观看\n535751\t555732\t好希望大家都平安大家平安另外我們對於相關的觀光旅遊補助當然有效但不是長遠之計那我們應該以區域特色的這樣的一個建立來建立長期觀光發展的一個模式我們應該仿效日本的這種政策的白皮書\n556713\t581540\t召集地方的歷史文化或具有產業特色的自治團體或者是組織來結合當地的民眾以及中小微型的商家共同的參與共同的參與來建立地方參與的發展模式以地方特色為基礎來規劃觀光文化品牌的這種產業的經營策略來建立具有地方特色的觀光品牌\n582688\t591395\t二十多年前我去紐約的旅遊局參訪紐約的旅遊局他們市政府的旅遊局他們經費一半是\n593258\t619472\t這個觀光產業界出的錢一半是政府出的錢然後他們共同推出適合的旅遊局的局長人選來推動他們的一個旅遊要有產業界的參與我一直提醒署長還有部長要跟觀光產業界多對話了解困境來以及提供相關的建議讓他們知道政府的努力那\n620912\t647684\t國際的宣傳這個部分剛才我已經提過了希望你們去加強啊對於有效的這種你們的計畫都都寫得很清楚啊叫有效開拓客源的計畫但是看起來都無效啊花了17億18億然後國際旅客的印象還是固定就是西門町啦101啦龍山寺啦新的旅遊圖像應該要被建立啦\n648072\t663000\t各地的這樣的一個中南部的花東的都要納入這樣的一個觀光旅遊特色另外我們國際旅客減少啊當然花蓮的這個地震也是有影響尤其是日本跟韓國的旅客啊\n663720\t682998\t他們對於太魯閣修立的壯觀的景色是觀光的一大重點但是因為地震之後相關的這些日本、韓國的旅客來的意願就比較降低這也是我們國際觀光的一個問題那針對花蓮跟台東的旅遊\n684340\t701179\t太魯閣這樣的一個特色啊當然需要生態的休養生息這是要一段時間的啦要一段時間我認為啊應該針對花東的旅遊啊應該要建立他新的區域旅遊的一個品牌是\n701819\t717567\t建立套裝新的套裝旅遊路線投注資源讓整體的台灣的觀光能夠整體串聯起來交通的問題啦這因為時間的關係那希望部長多加的督促我們對於觀光的\n719528\t734809\t成績國旅真的是勉強及格對於國際旅遊的這樣一個人次的成長緩慢停滯我們真的是非常的不滿意這個部長跟署長要全力的督促這個要努力好 謝謝委員\n","txt":"好 謝謝昭偉 請一下陳士凱部長 觀光署周署長請部長署長部長應該是去年9月就任吧是到現在也應該半年多了是那有關於觀光發展是交通部重要的責任跟重要的工作這是我們來看整體的觀光的發展在這一年多來的一個狀況\n我們現在國旅逐漸恢復到疫情之前的水準那這個表現是算勉強及格當然還有很多的議題包括這個交通的路線房價過高等等他的這種觀光的品質還是必須要去做改進\n國際旅遊的部分我們的旅遊跟疫情之前來比較我認為表現我必須要很嚴肅的講表現是不及格的我們來看出國的旅客人次我們台灣的出國旅客人次如果2019跟2024來做比較現在出國的人數是越來越多也逐漸恢復到疫情之前\n之前的這個水準恢復到98.52的這樣的一個水準而且必須要注意年輕人出國的比例越來越高越來越不想在台灣國內旅遊那另外來台的旅客人次更是讓我們擔憂\n在2024年只有785萬那2019年有1186萬的這樣的一個旅遊人士我們恢復的比例只有66.23\n部長這樣是不行的來你有什麼想法你來半年多了對觀光的議題我知道你也有在進行了解來你有什麼想法報告委員其實來台旅客的人次這幾年雖然都在增加但是我們復甦的速度實在是比起其他國家有些慢那這個部分我們應該要再加強\n我覺得幾個點包含剛剛洪牧凱委員在質詢的內容就是說有一些國外的旅客要來亞洲的時候台灣不是首選甚至連前面幾名都排不到這個是我們要檢討的那也就是我們在國外的行銷剛剛委員有提到就是現在年輕人很喜歡出國\n那他出國的時候他心裡面一定有一個圖像哪個地方好玩他想去代表台灣現在在其他各國的年輕人或旅客的心裡面的那個圖像不夠明顯所以第一個我們的行銷的問題必須要解決那行銷我們的費用有開始漸漸在增加也有漸漸看到成效不過行銷的方式我們可以再檢討行銷的方式會不會是沒有剛好打中人心這個部分我們要去思考那第二個就是說\n包含剛剛所講的行銷我們在各國的服務據點在過去是不夠的那我們在這兩年其實也在各國的觀光服務據點也不斷在提升這個部分是很重要的處理第三其實更重要的是旅客來了台灣第一次之後會不會想第二次\n如果要讓他來第二次那品質就很重要台灣要好玩到品質夠好那這個部分牽扯到人才我們的人才夠不夠觀光的人才所以我們觀光研訓院會在今年年底會來成立觀光的人才這個是打底的工作我們必須把它打好讓國外的旅客來到台灣之後第一次還會有第二次甚至會帶其他的旅客來部長剛才提到有關於國外的旅客對於台灣的觀光印象到底是什麼\n我們有國際觀光宣傳的這個經費在觀光基金裡面有這種精準課員的開拓計畫今年應該編列了大概17億左右17億我們的觀光宣導有這麼多的經費但是我認為一直做得不好所有的觀光旅客 國際旅客以這個2024年觀光署自己的這個報告\n國際旅客對台灣的公關印象是什麼就是101就是故宮就是像西門町信義商業區這些再加個淡水頂多再加上阿里山等等日月台他們的印象一直是這樣我們對於各地的宣導不足建立區域旅遊品牌的這種特色\n火力不夠做得也不好宣導也不夠然後這十幾年來一直要求觀光署針對除了這些觀光客既有的印象之外你應該去加強其他地區的區域的這個特色這個必須要去做改進另外我們來看一下我們以日本的經驗來說現在\n有很多人說我們希望特別的國家來支持台灣的旅遊就是說中國啦中國來我們的觀光業就能夠一飛沖天就能大幅的一個發展我們來看2024年各國國際旅客的統計日本3687萬人次\n它超越2019已經是創下歷史新高我們才66%韓國有1637萬人次是2019年的94%我們66%2024年到日本的中國旅客比2019年還要少 少了260萬但是他們東亞跟歐美的旅客是大幅增加國際旅客創下歷史新高\n部長你要特別注意看2024年中國出國的人次統計他比2019年還要少874萬人次我們推動公共發展是要依靠良好的旅遊品質建立區域旅遊的特色台灣的特色\n然後不是依靠特定的國家不然簡單說明一下報告委員確實我們這幾年也在轉型當中我們在疫情之前跟現在相比的話中國的旅客減少200多萬人次但我們台灣最近以去年來講比起前年我們日本客增加了百分之四十幾韓國客也增加了百分之三四十尤其是歐美客歐美客我們增加百分之二十幾我們現在正在拓展中國以外的重要的旅客的區域\n那這個部分其實在去年有一些斬獲不過我們還可以再加強這個部分確實是要好好的努力要向日本學習部長我們來看看我們觀光面臨什麼困境第一個觀光的同質性高缺乏特色魅力缺乏區域的景點品牌我們看台灣的老街\n特色都差不多賣的東西也差不多我們的駱魚松你種我也種大家都在種櫻花也是你種我也種還有像什麼觀景台觀景高台你做我也做你有清水公園我也來弄個清水公園他沒有形成地方的這種區域旅遊的特色啦另外旅遊品質不佳\n疫情期間我們的轉型跟改善做得不夠這個在當初疫情剛發生的時候我就一再督促以日本香港新加坡韓國他們的具體的長期的中長期的改善計畫我們沒有落實我們沒有做好另外數位運用資訊及交通的整合不佳這也是個問題宣傳與特色無法結合缺乏核心的客群\n部長這種同質性高然後區域的特色無法建立你們有什麼具體的做法跟想法這個部分當然在疫情的過程當中應該是我們打底的好時機確實過去有幾年的時間該做沒做這個我們虛心檢討那我們現在要把整整體的旅遊品質要建立起來包含我們跟各地的商圈也要溝通大家有沒有各自的觀光的特色\n以商業來講有沒有觀光的特色可以提供給旅客這個部分大家有一點區隔性會比較好那委員所提到的數位應用的部分我們跟公研院那邊也是有在做合作也就是說數位應用的部分我們過去沒有跟上包含資訊應用的部分我們現在正在加強當中好時間先暫停\n感谢观看\n好希望大家都平安大家平安另外我們對於相關的觀光旅遊補助當然有效但不是長遠之計那我們應該以區域特色的這樣的一個建立來建立長期觀光發展的一個模式我們應該仿效日本的這種政策的白皮書\n召集地方的歷史文化或具有產業特色的自治團體或者是組織來結合當地的民眾以及中小微型的商家共同的參與共同的參與來建立地方參與的發展模式以地方特色為基礎來規劃觀光文化品牌的這種產業的經營策略來建立具有地方特色的觀光品牌\n二十多年前我去紐約的旅遊局參訪紐約的旅遊局他們市政府的旅遊局他們經費一半是\n這個觀光產業界出的錢一半是政府出的錢然後他們共同推出適合的旅遊局的局長人選來推動他們的一個旅遊要有產業界的參與我一直提醒署長還有部長要跟觀光產業界多對話了解困境來以及提供相關的建議讓他們知道政府的努力那\n國際的宣傳這個部分剛才我已經提過了希望你們去加強啊對於有效的這種你們的計畫都都寫得很清楚啊叫有效開拓客源的計畫但是看起來都無效啊花了17億18億然後國際旅客的印象還是固定就是西門町啦101啦龍山寺啦新的旅遊圖像應該要被建立啦\n各地的這樣的一個中南部的花東的都要納入這樣的一個觀光旅遊特色另外我們國際旅客減少啊當然花蓮的這個地震也是有影響尤其是日本跟韓國的旅客啊\n他們對於太魯閣修立的壯觀的景色是觀光的一大重點但是因為地震之後相關的這些日本、韓國的旅客來的意願就比較降低這也是我們國際觀光的一個問題那針對花蓮跟台東的旅遊\n太魯閣這樣的一個特色啊當然需要生態的休養生息這是要一段時間的啦要一段時間我認為啊應該針對花東的旅遊啊應該要建立他新的區域旅遊的一個品牌是\n建立套裝新的套裝旅遊路線投注資源讓整體的台灣的觀光能夠整體串聯起來交通的問題啦這因為時間的關係那希望部長多加的督促我們對於觀光的\n成績國旅真的是勉強及格對於國際旅遊的這樣一個人次的成長緩慢停滯我們真的是非常的不滿意這個部長跟署長要全力的督促這個要努力好 謝謝委員\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:03.308 --> 00:29.690\n好謝謝昭偉請一下陳士凱部長觀光署周署長請部長署長部長應該是去年9月就任吧是到現在也應該半年多了是那有關於觀光發展是交通部重要的責任跟重要的工作這是我們來看整體的觀光的發展在這一年多來的一個狀況\n\n00:30.751 --> 00:48.157\n我們現在國旅逐漸恢復到疫情之前的水準那這個表現是算勉強及格當然還有很多的議題包括這個交通的路線房價過高等等他的這種觀光的品質還是必須要去做改進\n\n00:49.897 --> 01:15.073\n國際旅遊的部分我們的旅遊跟疫情之前來比較我認為表現我必須要很嚴肅的講表現是不及格的我們來看出國的旅客人次我們台灣的出國旅客人次如果2019跟2024來做比較現在出國的人數是越來越多也逐漸恢復到疫情之前\n\n01:15.413 --> 01:30.950\n之前的這個水準恢復到98.52的這樣的一個水準而且必須要注意年輕人出國的比例越來越高越來越不想在台灣國內旅遊那另外來台的旅客人次更是讓我們擔憂\n\n01:33.012 --> 01:35.034\n在2024年只有785萬那2019年有1186萬的這樣的一個旅遊人士我們恢復的比例只有66.23\n\n01:48.356 --> 02:08.237\n部長這樣是不行的來你有什麼想法你來半年多了對觀光的議題我知道你也有在進行了解來你有什麼想法報告委員其實來台旅客的人次這幾年雖然都在增加但是我們復甦的速度實在是比起其他國家有些慢那這個部分我們應該要再加強\n\n02:08.957 --> 02:25.015\n我覺得幾個點包含剛剛洪牧凱委員在質詢的內容就是說有一些國外的旅客要來亞洲的時候台灣不是首選甚至連前面幾名都排不到這個是我們要檢討的那也就是我們在國外的行銷剛剛委員有提到就是現在年輕人很喜歡出國\n\n02:25.876 --> 02:51.792\n那他出國的時候他心裡面一定有一個圖像哪個地方好玩他想去代表台灣現在在其他各國的年輕人或旅客的心裡面的那個圖像不夠明顯所以第一個我們的行銷的問題必須要解決那行銷我們的費用有開始漸漸在增加也有漸漸看到成效不過行銷的方式我們可以再檢討行銷的方式會不會是沒有剛好打中人心這個部分我們要去思考那第二個就是說\n\n02:52.893 --> 03:08.362\n包含剛剛所講的行銷我們在各國的服務據點在過去是不夠的那我們在這兩年其實也在各國的觀光服務據點也不斷在提升這個部分是很重要的處理第三其實更重要的是旅客來了台灣第一次之後會不會想第二次\n\n03:09.002 --> 03:35.207\n如果要讓他來第二次那品質就很重要台灣要好玩到品質夠好那這個部分牽扯到人才我們的人才夠不夠觀光的人才所以我們觀光研訓院會在今年年底會來成立觀光的人才這個是打底的工作我們必須把它打好讓國外的旅客來到台灣之後第一次還會有第二次甚至會帶其他的旅客來部長剛才提到有關於國外的旅客對於台灣的觀光印象到底是什麼\n\n03:36.067 --> 04:01.743\n我們有國際觀光宣傳的這個經費在觀光基金裡面有這種精準課員的開拓計畫今年應該編列了大概17億左右17億我們的觀光宣導有這麼多的經費但是我認為一直做得不好所有的觀光旅客國際旅客以這個2024年觀光署自己的這個報告\n\n04:04.162 --> 04:28.246\n國際旅客對台灣的公關印象是什麼就是101就是故宮就是像西門町信義商業區這些再加個淡水頂多再加上阿里山等等日月台他們的印象一直是這樣我們對於各地的宣導不足建立區域旅遊品牌的這種特色\n\n04:29.568 --> 04:48.759\n火力不夠做得也不好宣導也不夠然後這十幾年來一直要求觀光署針對除了這些觀光客既有的印象之外你應該去加強其他地區的區域的這個特色這個必須要去做改進另外我們來看一下我們以日本的經驗來說現在\n\n04:54.830 --> 05:09.261\n有很多人說我們希望特別的國家來支持台灣的旅遊就是說中國啦中國來我們的觀光業就能夠一飛沖天就能大幅的一個發展我們來看2024年各國國際旅客的統計日本3687萬人次\n\n05:17.850 --> 05:26.453\n它超越2019已經是創下歷史新高我們才66%韓國有1637萬人次是2019年的94%我們66%2024年到日本的中國旅客比2019年還要少少了260萬但是他們東亞跟歐美的旅客是大幅增加國際旅客創下歷史新高\n\n05:49.209 --> 06:06.678\n部長你要特別注意看2024年中國出國的人次統計他比2019年還要少874萬人次我們推動公共發展是要依靠良好的旅遊品質建立區域旅遊的特色台灣的特色\n\n06:07.538 --> 06:34.751\n然後不是依靠特定的國家不然簡單說明一下報告委員確實我們這幾年也在轉型當中我們在疫情之前跟現在相比的話中國的旅客減少200多萬人次但我們台灣最近以去年來講比起前年我們日本客增加了百分之四十幾韓國客也增加了百分之三四十尤其是歐美客歐美客我們增加百分之二十幾我們現在正在拓展中國以外的重要的旅客的區域\n\n06:36.051 --> 06:55.106\n那這個部分其實在去年有一些斬獲不過我們還可以再加強這個部分確實是要好好的努力要向日本學習部長我們來看看我們觀光面臨什麼困境第一個觀光的同質性高缺乏特色魅力缺乏區域的景點品牌我們看台灣的老街\n\n06:56.161 --> 07:19.677\n特色都差不多賣的東西也差不多我們的駱魚松你種我也種大家都在種櫻花也是你種我也種還有像什麼觀景台觀景高台你做我也做你有清水公園我也來弄個清水公園他沒有形成地方的這種區域旅遊的特色啦另外旅遊品質不佳\n\n07:21.701 --> 07:47.810\n疫情期間我們的轉型跟改善做得不夠這個在當初疫情剛發生的時候我就一再督促以日本香港新加坡韓國他們的具體的長期的中長期的改善計畫我們沒有落實我們沒有做好另外數位運用資訊及交通的整合不佳這也是個問題宣傳與特色無法結合缺乏核心的客群\n\n07:49.704 --> 08:14.427\n部長這種同質性高然後區域的特色無法建立你們有什麼具體的做法跟想法這個部分當然在疫情的過程當中應該是我們打底的好時機確實過去有幾年的時間該做沒做這個我們虛心檢討那我們現在要把整整體的旅遊品質要建立起來包含我們跟各地的商圈也要溝通大家有沒有各自的觀光的特色\n\n08:15.188 --> 08:31.540\n以商業來講有沒有觀光的特色可以提供給旅客這個部分大家有一點區隔性會比較好那委員所提到的數位應用的部分我們跟公研院那邊也是有在做合作也就是說數位應用的部分我們過去沒有跟上包含資訊應用的部分我們現在正在加強當中好時間先暫停\n\n08:45.370 --> 08:46.312\n感谢观看\n\n08:55.751 --> 09:15.732\n好希望大家都平安大家平安另外我們對於相關的觀光旅遊補助當然有效但不是長遠之計那我們應該以區域特色的這樣的一個建立來建立長期觀光發展的一個模式我們應該仿效日本的這種政策的白皮書\n\n09:16.713 --> 09:41.540\n召集地方的歷史文化或具有產業特色的自治團體或者是組織來結合當地的民眾以及中小微型的商家共同的參與共同的參與來建立地方參與的發展模式以地方特色為基礎來規劃觀光文化品牌的這種產業的經營策略來建立具有地方特色的觀光品牌\n\n09:42.688 --> 09:51.395\n二十多年前我去紐約的旅遊局參訪紐約的旅遊局他們市政府的旅遊局他們經費一半是\n\n09:53.258 --> 10:19.472\n這個觀光產業界出的錢一半是政府出的錢然後他們共同推出適合的旅遊局的局長人選來推動他們的一個旅遊要有產業界的參與我一直提醒署長還有部長要跟觀光產業界多對話了解困境來以及提供相關的建議讓他們知道政府的努力那\n\n10:20.912 --> 10:47.684\n國際的宣傳這個部分剛才我已經提過了希望你們去加強啊對於有效的這種你們的計畫都都寫得很清楚啊叫有效開拓客源的計畫但是看起來都無效啊花了17億18億然後國際旅客的印象還是固定就是西門町啦101啦龍山寺啦新的旅遊圖像應該要被建立啦\n\n10:48.072 --> 11:03.000\n各地的這樣的一個中南部的花東的都要納入這樣的一個觀光旅遊特色另外我們國際旅客減少啊當然花蓮的這個地震也是有影響尤其是日本跟韓國的旅客啊\n\n11:03.720 --> 11:22.998\n他們對於太魯閣修立的壯觀的景色是觀光的一大重點但是因為地震之後相關的這些日本、韓國的旅客來的意願就比較降低這也是我們國際觀光的一個問題那針對花蓮跟台東的旅遊\n\n11:24.340 --> 11:41.179\n太魯閣這樣的一個特色啊當然需要生態的休養生息這是要一段時間的啦要一段時間我認為啊應該針對花東的旅遊啊應該要建立他新的區域旅遊的一個品牌是\n\n11:41.819 --> 11:57.567\n建立套裝新的套裝旅遊路線投注資源讓整體的台灣的觀光能夠整體串聯起來交通的問題啦這因為時間的關係那希望部長多加的督促我們對於觀光的\n\n11:59.528 --> 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觀光署周署長請部長署長部長應該是去年9月就任吧是到現在也應該半年多了是那有關於觀光發展是交通部重要的責任跟重要的工作這是我們來看整體的觀光的發展在這一年多來的一個狀況"},{"start":30.751,"end":48.157,"text":"我們現在國旅逐漸恢復到疫情之前的水準那這個表現是算勉強及格當然還有很多的議題包括這個交通的路線房價過高等等他的這種觀光的品質還是必須要去做改進"},{"start":49.897,"end":75.073,"text":"國際旅遊的部分我們的旅遊跟疫情之前來比較我認為表現我必須要很嚴肅的講表現是不及格的我們來看出國的旅客人次我們台灣的出國旅客人次如果2019跟2024來做比較現在出國的人數是越來越多也逐漸恢復到疫情之前"},{"start":75.413,"end":90.95,"text":"之前的這個水準恢復到98.52的這樣的一個水準而且必須要注意年輕人出國的比例越來越高越來越不想在台灣國內旅遊那另外來台的旅客人次更是讓我們擔憂"},{"start":93.012,"end":95.034,"text":"在2024年只有785萬那2019年有1186萬的這樣的一個旅遊人士我們恢復的比例只有66.23"},{"start":108.356,"end":128.237,"text":"部長這樣是不行的來你有什麼想法你來半年多了對觀光的議題我知道你也有在進行了解來你有什麼想法報告委員其實來台旅客的人次這幾年雖然都在增加但是我們復甦的速度實在是比起其他國家有些慢那這個部分我們應該要再加強"},{"start":128.957,"end":145.015,"text":"我覺得幾個點包含剛剛洪牧凱委員在質詢的內容就是說有一些國外的旅客要來亞洲的時候台灣不是首選甚至連前面幾名都排不到這個是我們要檢討的那也就是我們在國外的行銷剛剛委員有提到就是現在年輕人很喜歡出國"},{"start":145.876,"end":171.792,"text":"那他出國的時候他心裡面一定有一個圖像哪個地方好玩他想去代表台灣現在在其他各國的年輕人或旅客的心裡面的那個圖像不夠明顯所以第一個我們的行銷的問題必須要解決那行銷我們的費用有開始漸漸在增加也有漸漸看到成效不過行銷的方式我們可以再檢討行銷的方式會不會是沒有剛好打中人心這個部分我們要去思考那第二個就是說"},{"start":172.893,"end":188.362,"text":"包含剛剛所講的行銷我們在各國的服務據點在過去是不夠的那我們在這兩年其實也在各國的觀光服務據點也不斷在提升這個部分是很重要的處理第三其實更重要的是旅客來了台灣第一次之後會不會想第二次"},{"start":189.002,"end":215.207,"text":"如果要讓他來第二次那品質就很重要台灣要好玩到品質夠好那這個部分牽扯到人才我們的人才夠不夠觀光的人才所以我們觀光研訓院會在今年年底會來成立觀光的人才這個是打底的工作我們必須把它打好讓國外的旅客來到台灣之後第一次還會有第二次甚至會帶其他的旅客來部長剛才提到有關於國外的旅客對於台灣的觀光印象到底是什麼"},{"start":216.067,"end":241.743,"text":"我們有國際觀光宣傳的這個經費在觀光基金裡面有這種精準課員的開拓計畫今年應該編列了大概17億左右17億我們的觀光宣導有這麼多的經費但是我認為一直做得不好所有的觀光旅客 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