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00:02:45,154\n現在兩個階段這個圖寫得非常清楚台美關稅最後定案也就是我們雙方大家談判之後的結果我們台灣需要讓利在哪一個部分這是後面階段也就是可能受到衝擊的產業政府要如何協助因應\n\n8\n00:02:46,499 --> 00:02:54,770\n也就是可能面對的就是我們現在政府預計要提出特別預算在工業的部分700億農業的部分180億這是後面階段也就是長遠性的\n\n9\n00:03:01,004 --> 00:03:21,414\n因為如果我們台美關稅最後定案這個可能就是一個長期性的狀態我們要面對的就是要如何協助這些受充期的產業可是我們要講的談判期呢這個臨時已經有很多的企業\n\n10\n00:03:22,728 --> 00:03:47,105\n已經被告知他們的訂單可能會被取消甚至有些都已經海運在空中還有甚至已經船起已經出發了這些部分怎麼辦部長這部分怎麼辦報告委員那個船在船上的那個都是他如果在5月\n\n11\n00:03:48,994 --> 00:03:57,680\n5月27號之前到達美國是按照原本的這個稅率我們有一個盤點出來說裝船是在這個4月5號之前\n\n12\n00:04:02,622 --> 00:04:31,243\n那麼他是按照原稅率也就是說您剛才所指導的這個準的開中的這都照本來的稅率啦但是一定要有理由去進行到美國報官入面所以部長我會用這樣的圖就是要讓你說明清楚現在很多人還不知道所以在4月5號以前只要我們已經上傳或是出關的這些都沒有問題\n\n13\n00:04:32,043 --> 00:04:53,559\n5月27號之前5月27號那一天以前到達美國然後報關這個就是按照原稅率如果是4月5號到4月9號這一段期間他已經發布了那麼加10%的關稅那如果是4月9號以後才出船今天以後才出船的32%這個我\n\n14\n00:04:56,400 --> 00:05:13,016\n我们会在经济部的网站上面还有对我们的马上办中心以及我们的callcenter上面都会来报告跟国人报告所以这个国人在这方面有需求的\n\n15\n00:05:13,854 --> 00:05:16,996\n不用客氣這個資訊很重要你知道這個資訊很重要嗎其實在這幾天其實我們在基層被問到最多的是那麼如果我們的訂單被取消了怎麼辦\n\n16\n00:05:32,608 --> 00:05:55,604\n好你剛已經說了有不同的階段如果在5月27號以前可以到美國報關的維持維持也就是我們原來的關稅那麼如果我們在4月5號到4月9號出關的從台灣出關的5月27號前到然後5月7號是增加10%我再一次強調4月5號以前\n\n17\n00:06:02,849 --> 00:06:27,251\n出關然後5月27號以前到達美國的原關稅然後如果4月5號到4月9號這段時間然後這個從台灣出關5月27號以前到美國的加10%那麼其他如果在4月9號以後從台灣出關的就是\n\n18\n00:06:28,012 --> 00:06:37,249\n照他們現在所有的關稅但是現在在談判所以你剛才那個點最後定案為止我們希望\n\n19\n00:06:38,106 --> 00:06:58,623\n会在5月27号以前然后可以这样子谈到一个好的税率然后让台湾的厂商可以来followup这很重要所以我们希望我们这个最后定案希望是在5月27号以前也就是我们目前在整个\n\n20\n00:07:00,064 --> 00:07:18,912\n關稅到達美國一個界定的時間5月27號如果可以在這5月27號以前完成談判我們就有方向這個是要穩定所有的一個中小企業的信心如果在我們這個談判因為談判不是操之在我\n\n21\n00:07:19,992 --> 00:07:48,820\n不過我們的Priority在前面那在這一段期間裡面我們的業者如果需要紓困如果需要經濟部的協助我想我們都有準備那我們現在有開辦馬上辦中心來解決我們國人業者的擔心這個部分我們都會一一的根據每一個業者不同的情形給予資助\n\n22\n00:07:49,810 --> 00:08:18,276\n部長因為其實我們在基層已經有些有些企業有接到就是要撤訂單的這樣的一個聲音了所以呢如果在這個部分有造成的無薪假或是企業損失在這個部分有需要我們政府來協助的我們有馬上辦中心可以來幫忙是好這個很重要好再來就是第二階段我們現在要去談判嘛\n\n23\n00:08:19,336 --> 00:08:35,273\n談判之後最後因為不是超支在我們我們一定要提出很多的版本那最後版本的定案是什麼當然是未知數因為這是談判的機密也不能請你們在這邊說好我只有說\n\n24\n00:08:36,534 --> 00:08:53,211\n如果在談判之後最後的定案一定會有些受到衝擊真正受到衝擊的產業這個就一個時間就會比較長了就不是這個短時間喔這個時間上有可能未來都要面臨這樣的一個狀態好\n\n25\n00:08:55,333 --> 00:09:23,803\n那這個部分可能就落入到我們現在所講的我們會有特別預算的700億工業700億還有農業我們180億那這幾個方向在企業的部分可能就是資通訊產品電子零組件汽車零組件扣件機械零件自行車運動器材家具或是塑膠製品那其實很多的傳產\n\n26\n00:09:25,203 --> 00:09:42,689\n其實他們的隱形產業都在台南其實部長也知道所以其實雖然我們看到的包括汽車零組件雖然佔了1.8%甚至扣件可是其實很多它的集中地都是在台南\n\n27\n00:09:44,230 --> 00:10:04,857\n報告委員我想我們現在的881是對製造跟對農業上面產生變異的時候的一些支柱那您剛才在提的也非常重要也就是說在商業上面因為這樣而造成的連鎖的這樣的一個反應而造成resection這一部分\n\n28\n00:10:05,851 --> 00:10:27,184\n不在880億裡面這個是院長也有指示880億是第一個階段我們用特別預算來趕快來啟動接著因為後面有一段時間才會反映嘛當我們觀察如果真正的需要我們會再提第二次的這個特別預算我想這個是一個程序啦\n\n29\n00:10:28,995 --> 00:10:50,753\n對但是部長我們這個要先講給大家知道因為現在我們當然期待我們這個談判是一個對台灣非常有利的結果可是我們一定要讓我們台灣人民有信心讓企業穩定才不會反映在股市當中你看我們的股市\n\n30\n00:10:51,474 --> 00:11:14,117\n在星期一開盤的時候那個是整個跌停因為就是失去信心然後慢慢的我們讓大家有慢慢回升可是這個回升率還是不及大家的恐慌所以部長我剛才講的是當我們在最後台美談判的定案版\n\n31\n00:11:14,958 --> 00:11:33,546\n他可能影響的層面從我們的工業面跟我們的農業面這880億我們的協助之後那麼還有一個商業面這個商業面怎麼做我覺得我們應該不是說我們這一塊先做完那以後再談\n\n32\n00:11:35,202 --> 00:12:01,932\n人民的信心指數所以我覺得我們要講清楚我們現在對外的報告就是短期裡面我們的措施是什麼中期我們會怎麼做長期我們這個國發這個會有一個非常長期的對提升台灣在未來的產業競爭力的部分我們是不是請主委長期的部分長期的部分他已經提了2040年為止的長期的部分是\n\n33\n00:12:04,810 --> 00:12:19,428\n我們長期的部分主要是我們是要去透過三個角度去協助這個廠商第一個是協助企業進行轉型包括轉進到新的市場那因為美國占全球進口市場3.4%這個我們都會講對\n\n34\n00:12:22,652 --> 00:12:52,232\n我們都會講但是其實你所講的這些都沒有辦法直接讓人民有信心也就是說我們長期的所謂當880億我們在這個協助之後所引發的一些商業的影響我們整個市場面的問題台灣市場面的問題人民信心指數的問題在這個部分我們要怎麼幫助我們有沒有什麼樣的配套這才是重要的\n\n35\n00:12:53,293 --> 00:13:17,474\n主委這才是重要的報告委員那個中期的部分您剛才提的大概是短中期的部分那個是有經濟部在負責經濟部在負責我講的是未來長期的部分未來的話我們所謂的長期是那種10年20年的這個叫長期所以我們定義目前這一波的話就短期措施在這幾個月我們這樣做接著在未來的\n\n36\n00:13:17,654 --> 00:13:36,420\n一年內我們會做什麼事情來部長跟主委報告其實我們都來自基層或許你們都認為你們有在做可是這一波真的讓突然之間美國這樣的宣布已經讓所有台灣人民整個非常的驚慌\n\n37\n00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:54,081\n精恐那我覺得我們現在的責任就是穩住大家的信心所以我們希望的不是短期不是中期我們希望的是連同在整個商業面所造成的影響都應該有一個規劃\n\n38\n00:13:55,803 --> 00:14:13,771\n這個不是10年20年這個講太遠了而是你今天我們要給所有的工業轉型沒錯可是轉型不是一年兩年的事啊他要去把訂單從美國轉到歐洲市場也不是一年兩年的事啊這些市場的通路要怎麼抓\n\n39\n00:14:15,231 --> 00:14:25,531\n我覺得這是一個非常必須要面對的現實所以拜託部長跟主委我們希望看到的是你們在未來\n\n40\n00:14:26,926 --> 00:14:46,922\n在如何把這些在講一個標的時候雖然這個是標可是人民的感受不一樣我們希望給我們的是有一些能夠讓人民更加安心我們政府是有在做事情政府不是完全沒有風雲沒有標拜託謝謝\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n6503\t7324\t我們請經濟部長郭部長\n18567\t41403\t委員好部長好我想這個美國把關稅高額變成32%其實對台灣的衝擊真的是蠻大的那我想我第一時間在臉書我就已經發布了這個訊息說這個部分就是因為貿易逆差\n42998\t63681\t因為台灣出口美國的一個高額跟美國進到台灣這樣的一個貿易擬差造成美國去思考這樣的一個關稅的調整那我們要共體時間怎麼共體時間就是我們現在要去談的\n64847\t89692\t就是說兩個階段會比較不一樣其實部長我今天這個圖會比較清楚4月9號就是今天今天美國對於關稅這樣的一個調漲他已經是上路了對不對他也說會有談判期\n91344\t119818\t現在所有的國家包括台灣在內都有提出要跟他談判這樣的一個方向也希望能夠有一個好的結果所以台美關稅最後定案這是一個我們非常重要的關鍵部長你看這個圖我們從4月9號到台美正式關稅最後定案\n121350\t143049\t這當中到底是一個禮拜 兩個禮拜 一個月 兩個月 不知道可是在這談判期 我把它當成談判期在這個談判期我們針對所有的企業被取消的訂單我們政府如何協助這已經是過急症了\n144438\t165154\t現在兩個階段這個圖寫得非常清楚台美關稅最後定案也就是我們雙方大家談判之後的結果我們台灣需要讓利在哪一個部分這是後面階段也就是可能受到衝擊的產業政府要如何協助因應\n166499\t174770\t也就是可能面對的就是我們現在政府預計要提出特別預算在工業的部分700億農業的部分180億這是後面階段也就是長遠性的\n181004\t201414\t因為如果我們台美關稅最後定案這個可能就是一個長期性的狀態我們要面對的就是要如何協助這些受充期的產業可是我們要講的談判期呢這個臨時已經有很多的企業\n202728\t227105\t已經被告知他們的訂單可能會被取消甚至有些都已經海運在空中還有甚至已經船起已經出發了這些部分怎麼辦部長這部分怎麼辦報告委員那個船在船上的那個都是他如果在5月\n228994\t237680\t5月27號之前到達美國是按照原本的這個稅率我們有一個盤點出來說裝船是在這個4月5號之前\n242622\t271243\t那麼他是按照原稅率 也就是說您剛才所指導的這個 準的 開中的這都照本來的稅率啦但是一定要有理由去進行到美國 報官入面所以部長我會用這樣的圖就是要讓你說明清楚現在很多人還不知道所以在4月5號以前只要我們已經上傳或是出關的這些都沒有問題\n272043\t293559\t5月27號之前5月27號那一天以前到達美國然後報關這個就是按照原稅率如果是4月5號到4月9號這一段期間他已經發布了那麼加10%的關稅那如果是4月9號以後才出船今天以後才出船的32%這個我\n296400\t313016\t我们会在经济部的网站上面还有对我们的马上办中心以及我们的call center上面都会来报告跟国人报告所以这个国人在这方面有需求的\n313854\t316996\t不用客氣這個資訊很重要你知道這個資訊很重要嗎其實在這幾天其實我們在基層被問到最多的是那麼如果我們的訂單被取消了怎麼辦\n332608\t355604\t好 你剛已經說了有不同的階段如果在5月27號以前可以到美國報關的維持維持也就是我們原來的關稅那麼如果我們在4月5號到4月9號出關的從台灣出關的5月27號前到然後5月7號是增加10%我再一次強調4月5號以前\n362849\t387251\t出關然後5月27號以前到達美國的原關稅然後如果4月5號到4月9號這段時間然後這個從台灣出關5月27號以前到美國的加10%那麼其他如果在4月9號以後從台灣出關的就是\n388012\t397249\t照他們現在所有的關稅但是現在在談判所以你剛才那個點最後定案為止我們希望\n398106\t418623\t会在5月27号以前然后可以这样子谈到一个好的税率然后让台湾的厂商可以来follow up这很重要所以我们希望我们这个最后定案希望是在5月27号以前也就是我们目前在整个\n420064\t438912\t關稅到達美國一個界定的時間5月27號如果可以在這5月27號以前完成談判我們就有方向這個是要穩定所有的一個中小企業的信心如果在我們這個談判因為談判不是操之在我\n439992\t468820\t不過我們的Priority在前面那在這一段期間裡面我們的業者如果需要紓困如果需要經濟部的協助我想我們都有準備那我們現在有開辦馬上辦中心來解決我們國人業者的擔心這個部分我們都會一一的根據每一個業者不同的情形給予資助\n469810\t498276\t部長因為其實我們在基層已經有些有些企業有接到就是要撤訂單的這樣的一個聲音了所以呢如果在這個部分有造成的無薪假或是企業損失在這個部分有需要我們政府來協助的我們有馬上辦中心可以來幫忙是好這個很重要好再來就是第二階段我們現在要去談判嘛\n499336\t515273\t談判之後最後因為不是超支在我們我們一定要提出很多的版本那最後版本的定案是什麼當然是未知數因為這是談判的機密也不能請你們在這邊說好我只有說\n516534\t533211\t如果在談判之後最後的定案一定會有些受到衝擊真正受到衝擊的產業這個就一個時間就會比較長了就不是這個短時間喔這個時間上有可能未來都要面臨這樣的一個狀態好\n535333\t563803\t那這個部分可能就落入到我們現在所講的我們會有特別預算的700億工業700億還有農業我們180億那這幾個方向在企業的部分可能就是資通訊產品電子零組件汽車零組件扣件機械零件自行車運動器材家具或是塑膠製品那其實很多的傳產\n565203\t582689\t其實他們的隱形產業都在台南其實部長也知道所以其實雖然我們看到的包括汽車零組件雖然佔了1.8%甚至扣件可是其實很多它的集中地都是在台南\n584230\t604857\t報告委員我想我們現在的881是對製造跟對農業上面產生變異的時候的一些支柱那您剛才在提的也非常重要也就是說在商業上面因為這樣而造成的連鎖的這樣的一個反應而造成resection這一部分\n605851\t627184\t不在880億裡面這個是院長也有指示880億是第一個階段我們用特別預算來趕快來啟動接著因為後面有一段時間才會反映嘛當我們觀察如果真正的需要我們會再提第二次的這個特別預算我想這個是一個程序啦\n628995\t650753\t對 但是部長我們這個要先講給大家知道因為現在我們當然期待我們這個談判是一個對台灣非常有利的結果可是我們一定要讓我們台灣人民有信心讓企業穩定才不會反映在股市當中你看我們的股市\n651474\t674117\t在星期一開盤的時候 那個是整個跌停 因為就是失去信心然後慢慢的 我們讓大家有慢慢回升可是這個回升率 還是不及大家的恐慌所以部長 我剛才講的是 當我們在最後台美談判的定案版\n674958\t693546\t他可能影響的層面從我們的工業面跟我們的農業面這880億我們的協助之後那麼還有一個商業面這個商業面怎麼做我覺得我們應該不是說我們這一塊先做完那以後再談\n695202\t721932\t人民的信心指數所以我覺得我們要講清楚我們現在對外的報告就是短期裡面我們的措施是什麼中期我們會怎麼做長期我們這個國發這個會有一個非常長期的對提升台灣在未來的產業競爭力的部分我們是不是請主委長期的部分長期的部分他已經提了2040年為止的長期的部分是\n724810\t739428\t我們長期的部分主要是我們是要去透過三個角度去協助這個廠商第一個是協助企業進行轉型包括轉進到新的市場那因為美國占全球進口市場3.4%這個我們都會講對\n742652\t772232\t我們都會講但是其實你所講的這些都沒有辦法直接讓人民有信心也就是說我們長期的所謂當880億我們在這個協助之後所引發的一些商業的影響我們整個市場面的問題台灣市場面的問題人民信心指數的問題在這個部分我們要怎麼幫助我們有沒有什麼樣的配套這才是重要的\n773293\t797474\t主委這才是重要的報告委員那個中期的部分您剛才提的大概是短中期的部分那個是有經濟部在負責經濟部在負責我講的是未來長期的部分未來的話我們所謂的長期是那種10年20年的這個叫長期所以我們定義目前這一波的話就短期措施在這幾個月我們這樣做接著在未來的\n797654\t816420\t一年內我們會做什麼事情來部長跟主委報告其實我們都來自基層或許你們都認為你們有在做可是這一波真的讓突然之間美國這樣的宣布已經讓所有台灣人民整個非常的驚慌\n817600\t834081\t精恐那我覺得我們現在的責任就是穩住大家的信心所以我們希望的不是短期不是中期我們希望的是連同在整個商業面所造成的影響都應該有一個規劃\n835803\t853771\t這個不是10年20年這個講太遠了而是你今天我們要給所有的工業轉型沒錯可是轉型不是一年兩年的事啊他要去把訂單從美國轉到歐洲市場也不是一年兩年的事啊這些市場的通路要怎麼抓\n855231\t865531\t我覺得這是一個非常必須要面對的現實所以拜託部長跟主委我們希望看到的是你們在未來\n866926\t886922\t在如何把這些在講一個標的時候雖然這個是標可是人民的感受不一樣我們希望給我們的是有一些能夠讓人民更加安心我們政府是有在做事情政府不是完全沒有風雲 沒有標拜託 謝謝\n","txt":"我們請經濟部長郭部長\n委員好部長好我想這個美國把關稅高額變成32%其實對台灣的衝擊真的是蠻大的那我想我第一時間在臉書我就已經發布了這個訊息說這個部分就是因為貿易逆差\n因為台灣出口美國的一個高額跟美國進到台灣這樣的一個貿易擬差造成美國去思考這樣的一個關稅的調整那我們要共體時間怎麼共體時間就是我們現在要去談的\n就是說兩個階段會比較不一樣其實部長我今天這個圖會比較清楚4月9號就是今天今天美國對於關稅這樣的一個調漲他已經是上路了對不對他也說會有談判期\n現在所有的國家包括台灣在內都有提出要跟他談判這樣的一個方向也希望能夠有一個好的結果所以台美關稅最後定案這是一個我們非常重要的關鍵部長你看這個圖我們從4月9號到台美正式關稅最後定案\n這當中到底是一個禮拜 兩個禮拜 一個月 兩個月 不知道可是在這談判期 我把它當成談判期在這個談判期我們針對所有的企業被取消的訂單我們政府如何協助這已經是過急症了\n現在兩個階段這個圖寫得非常清楚台美關稅最後定案也就是我們雙方大家談判之後的結果我們台灣需要讓利在哪一個部分這是後面階段也就是可能受到衝擊的產業政府要如何協助因應\n也就是可能面對的就是我們現在政府預計要提出特別預算在工業的部分700億農業的部分180億這是後面階段也就是長遠性的\n因為如果我們台美關稅最後定案這個可能就是一個長期性的狀態我們要面對的就是要如何協助這些受充期的產業可是我們要講的談判期呢這個臨時已經有很多的企業\n已經被告知他們的訂單可能會被取消甚至有些都已經海運在空中還有甚至已經船起已經出發了這些部分怎麼辦部長這部分怎麼辦報告委員那個船在船上的那個都是他如果在5月\n5月27號之前到達美國是按照原本的這個稅率我們有一個盤點出來說裝船是在這個4月5號之前\n那麼他是按照原稅率 也就是說您剛才所指導的這個 準的 開中的這都照本來的稅率啦但是一定要有理由去進行到美國 報官入面所以部長我會用這樣的圖就是要讓你說明清楚現在很多人還不知道所以在4月5號以前只要我們已經上傳或是出關的這些都沒有問題\n5月27號之前5月27號那一天以前到達美國然後報關這個就是按照原稅率如果是4月5號到4月9號這一段期間他已經發布了那麼加10%的關稅那如果是4月9號以後才出船今天以後才出船的32%這個我\n我们会在经济部的网站上面还有对我们的马上办中心以及我们的call center上面都会来报告跟国人报告所以这个国人在这方面有需求的\n不用客氣這個資訊很重要你知道這個資訊很重要嗎其實在這幾天其實我們在基層被問到最多的是那麼如果我們的訂單被取消了怎麼辦\n好 你剛已經說了有不同的階段如果在5月27號以前可以到美國報關的維持維持也就是我們原來的關稅那麼如果我們在4月5號到4月9號出關的從台灣出關的5月27號前到然後5月7號是增加10%我再一次強調4月5號以前\n出關然後5月27號以前到達美國的原關稅然後如果4月5號到4月9號這段時間然後這個從台灣出關5月27號以前到美國的加10%那麼其他如果在4月9號以後從台灣出關的就是\n照他們現在所有的關稅但是現在在談判所以你剛才那個點最後定案為止我們希望\n会在5月27号以前然后可以这样子谈到一个好的税率然后让台湾的厂商可以来follow up这很重要所以我们希望我们这个最后定案希望是在5月27号以前也就是我们目前在整个\n關稅到達美國一個界定的時間5月27號如果可以在這5月27號以前完成談判我們就有方向這個是要穩定所有的一個中小企業的信心如果在我們這個談判因為談判不是操之在我\n不過我們的Priority在前面那在這一段期間裡面我們的業者如果需要紓困如果需要經濟部的協助我想我們都有準備那我們現在有開辦馬上辦中心來解決我們國人業者的擔心這個部分我們都會一一的根據每一個業者不同的情形給予資助\n部長因為其實我們在基層已經有些有些企業有接到就是要撤訂單的這樣的一個聲音了所以呢如果在這個部分有造成的無薪假或是企業損失在這個部分有需要我們政府來協助的我們有馬上辦中心可以來幫忙是好這個很重要好再來就是第二階段我們現在要去談判嘛\n談判之後最後因為不是超支在我們我們一定要提出很多的版本那最後版本的定案是什麼當然是未知數因為這是談判的機密也不能請你們在這邊說好我只有說\n如果在談判之後最後的定案一定會有些受到衝擊真正受到衝擊的產業這個就一個時間就會比較長了就不是這個短時間喔這個時間上有可能未來都要面臨這樣的一個狀態好\n那這個部分可能就落入到我們現在所講的我們會有特別預算的700億工業700億還有農業我們180億那這幾個方向在企業的部分可能就是資通訊產品電子零組件汽車零組件扣件機械零件自行車運動器材家具或是塑膠製品那其實很多的傳產\n其實他們的隱形產業都在台南其實部長也知道所以其實雖然我們看到的包括汽車零組件雖然佔了1.8%甚至扣件可是其實很多它的集中地都是在台南\n報告委員我想我們現在的881是對製造跟對農業上面產生變異的時候的一些支柱那您剛才在提的也非常重要也就是說在商業上面因為這樣而造成的連鎖的這樣的一個反應而造成resection這一部分\n不在880億裡面這個是院長也有指示880億是第一個階段我們用特別預算來趕快來啟動接著因為後面有一段時間才會反映嘛當我們觀察如果真正的需要我們會再提第二次的這個特別預算我想這個是一個程序啦\n對 但是部長我們這個要先講給大家知道因為現在我們當然期待我們這個談判是一個對台灣非常有利的結果可是我們一定要讓我們台灣人民有信心讓企業穩定才不會反映在股市當中你看我們的股市\n在星期一開盤的時候 那個是整個跌停 因為就是失去信心然後慢慢的 我們讓大家有慢慢回升可是這個回升率 還是不及大家的恐慌所以部長 我剛才講的是 當我們在最後台美談判的定案版\n他可能影響的層面從我們的工業面跟我們的農業面這880億我們的協助之後那麼還有一個商業面這個商業面怎麼做我覺得我們應該不是說我們這一塊先做完那以後再談\n人民的信心指數所以我覺得我們要講清楚我們現在對外的報告就是短期裡面我們的措施是什麼中期我們會怎麼做長期我們這個國發這個會有一個非常長期的對提升台灣在未來的產業競爭力的部分我們是不是請主委長期的部分長期的部分他已經提了2040年為止的長期的部分是\n我們長期的部分主要是我們是要去透過三個角度去協助這個廠商第一個是協助企業進行轉型包括轉進到新的市場那因為美國占全球進口市場3.4%這個我們都會講對\n我們都會講但是其實你所講的這些都沒有辦法直接讓人民有信心也就是說我們長期的所謂當880億我們在這個協助之後所引發的一些商業的影響我們整個市場面的問題台灣市場面的問題人民信心指數的問題在這個部分我們要怎麼幫助我們有沒有什麼樣的配套這才是重要的\n主委這才是重要的報告委員那個中期的部分您剛才提的大概是短中期的部分那個是有經濟部在負責經濟部在負責我講的是未來長期的部分未來的話我們所謂的長期是那種10年20年的這個叫長期所以我們定義目前這一波的話就短期措施在這幾個月我們這樣做接著在未來的\n一年內我們會做什麼事情來部長跟主委報告其實我們都來自基層或許你們都認為你們有在做可是這一波真的讓突然之間美國這樣的宣布已經讓所有台灣人民整個非常的驚慌\n精恐那我覺得我們現在的責任就是穩住大家的信心所以我們希望的不是短期不是中期我們希望的是連同在整個商業面所造成的影響都應該有一個規劃\n這個不是10年20年這個講太遠了而是你今天我們要給所有的工業轉型沒錯可是轉型不是一年兩年的事啊他要去把訂單從美國轉到歐洲市場也不是一年兩年的事啊這些市場的通路要怎麼抓\n我覺得這是一個非常必須要面對的現實所以拜託部長跟主委我們希望看到的是你們在未來\n在如何把這些在講一個標的時候雖然這個是標可是人民的感受不一樣我們希望給我們的是有一些能夠讓人民更加安心我們政府是有在做事情政府不是完全沒有風雲 沒有標拜託 謝謝\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:06.503 --> 00:07.324\n我們請經濟部長郭部長\n\n00:18.567 --> 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