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00:01:06,056\n可能我們光看章名就好國民體育法的第二章是學生體育第三章是全民運動不過運動部成立之後我們學校體育就歸教育部管轄那全民運動是歸運動部管轄所以這個法規的名稱叫國民體育法\n\n5\n00:01:10,220 --> 00:01:35,488\n所以是不是隨著運動部的成立我們就顯得這個國民體育法必須要單修要來修法不然就顯得很不合時宜那之前我們本辦有跟體育署來了解就是運動部跟教育部的職長分工還有法規修正的方向那體育署有初步跟我們報告這個討論的進度那目前就是說還在廣泛收集意見的階段\n\n6\n00:01:37,809 --> 00:01:52,569\n等各業務單位釐清這個業務執掌跟政策方向再提報行政院來討論當時提署也有提到說運動部組織法通過了附帶決議有提到說運動部應於成立後一年\n\n7\n00:01:53,470 --> 00:02:12,683\n一年內完成前述法律及其他相關政令法律之延商那我可以理解說目前運動部長院還沒有確定由誰擔任那或許要等到新部長上任之後依照部長的願景跟目標來細緻的修正法規可是我還是要提醒一點運動部的籌備應該跟法規的修正\n\n8\n00:02:17,807 --> 00:02:39,820\n來並行討論因為等運動部成立之後那法規修正也才能趕快快速跟上不然你在一年內喔那個相關的業務推行恐怕就會很麻煩像你教育部跟運動部的那個一些執掌可能會相互推委卸責啦或者還沒有說等法規備齊我們再來說那可是有一些計畫喔\n\n9\n00:02:41,101 --> 00:03:00,132\n那可能變成你地方很難去執行那這個錢到底由誰管匣經費拿來就你會有一年你在法規還沒有明定之前你一年內一年內就很混沌不明所以我想這個都是我們要預想出來的問題因為這個混沌不明會造成選手跟所謂的教練權益受損的問題\n\n10\n00:03:01,152 --> 00:03:26,457\n那我再簡單就是說先請部長說明一下或請署長說明就是說我們後續這個國民體育法要如何的修法另外就是說未來運動部跟教育部執掌的規劃是不是可以說明一下你們最近開會一次的進度到哪裡那對於我剛剛提到這些問題那有什麼樣部分是覺得相對困難的地方\n\n11\n00:03:28,045 --> 00:03:44,442\n謝謝委員關心我們運動部這個成立以後在這個體育教學在人才培育包括全民運動怎麼樣去跟教育部跟體育運動部來做分工事實上也跟委員報告我們不管是這個副院長或者我們這個政委\n\n12\n00:03:47,250 --> 00:04:05,757\n然後召集我們這個跨部會包含我們體育署還有我們教育部目前由張亮這個次長來主要負責督導事實上已經有召開非常多的包含我們所關心的法令上的盤點包含這個全民運動又我們包含這個小學這一個專任教練\n\n13\n00:04:11,019 --> 00:04:29,726\n那到底要怎麼結合社區的這個俱樂部包含這個全民運動校園開放然後跟第一線上的這些老師專業老師做一些討論事實上都有形成了一些共識那我想這委員所關心的這是我們在這一段籌備時間陸續都在進行的那詳細的是不是請這個鎮署長來補充說明\n\n14\n00:04:35,948 --> 00:05:02,066\n鮑委員我們其實重點在分為學校體育場地游泳教學體育班專門教練基優生升學已經適應運動適應體育等等其實我們開了不只超過七次的會議那我們談得非常非常的細我們還持續在進行所以我們相信在運動部成立之前我們跟國教署以及甚至未來有可能牽涉到高教師以及記者是都有一個很好明確的分工我們會在確保在掛牌之前把這件事情把它做好\n\n15\n00:05:03,066 --> 00:05:19,634\n因為剛剛部長也有提到像說小學因為現在就是有現場的小學的老師來反映就是說像國小非體育專長的教師培育計畫那因為未來的業務不確定由誰來主管所以老師會一度很擔心這個計畫會被中斷但就國小非體育專長的教師培育計畫這個例子來看就好\n\n16\n00:05:25,256 --> 00:05:39,790\n你後續到底是運動部主管還是教育部主管那我也想請問說那能不能保證說在運動部成立後法規還沒有完備前那包括老師啊學生或運動教練或選手或特定的運動團體等等這些會不會因為這個職長不確定性這個計畫會受到影響\n\n17\n00:05:45,250 --> 00:06:07,711\n跟委員報告感謝委員提醒但是我想運動部的一個成立從教育部的體育署成立一個新的一個運動部我想我們就希望透過運動部能夠有一個更好的一個這個運動人才的培育或者是運動產業讓大家透過全民運動然後能夠更健康\n\n18\n00:06:10,033 --> 00:06:31,176\n雖然有分工但是不要忘掉他是一個團隊他還是有合作的所以有關這個一般的體育教學我想我利用這個機會讓我們所有的小學的老師怎麼樣讓一般的老師能夠有體育的這個相關運動上的一個真人這是我們積極在做的那另外\n\n19\n00:06:32,779 --> 00:06:57,303\n分工以後我們事實上一定會有更多的一些緊密的合作我想也謝謝委員提醒但我也利用這個機會讓我們這個第一線上的老師不管運動教練請放心我們一定會有一個非常周全的一些支持的系統希望更多的資源來挹注我們在中小學教育的這個體育教學包括人才培育\n\n20\n00:06:57,363 --> 00:07:19,319\nOK好希望你們這個充分的準備讓那個基層的老師沒有擔憂那另外我們運動部成立的很大一個項目的業務就是要全民運動推廣全民運動跟扶植運動產業那體育署在今年2月有公布一項2023年度你們所做的我國民眾運動消費支出的調查報告\n\n21\n00:07:20,681 --> 00:07:47,324\n那這個調查報告我本期要跟您討論就是我聚焦在學生族群的這個運動推廣的這個政策就是所謂的青春動資券那我前面有提到說這個報告裡面其實我們受訪的青年他多數是很肯定青年動資券的那真的確實有提升運動看比賽的意願那可是目前就是說\n\n22\n00:07:48,404 --> 00:08:05,891\n這個青年動資券是從動資網領用那有青年就認為說其實網站的形式操作上很不容易像說要先登記再領取那這兩個階段都需要輸入個人資料那動作重複性很高而且手機的版本的動資\n\n23\n00:08:07,972 --> 00:08:35,130\n動資網的介面也比較不容易可以找到那個QRCode的位置那另外有的人會預先把折抵QRCode的截圖先存在手機可是你的QRCode又限當日使用所以很多的青年就在現場重複取得QRCode這個流程那會有點麻煩那有些青年會說那個碰到業者也不曉得自家可不可以用動資券那也不太會操作所以也沒有辦法輔導所以很多青年是建議說\n\n24\n00:08:37,652 --> 00:08:50,366\n他們有那個專屬的APP那店家在那個櫃檯放收款的QRcode也有放牌子可以讓使用者去掃那這樣就比較方便那我想我也看了一下動資網跟文化幣\n\n25\n00:08:52,488 --> 00:09:12,735\n這網路使用的介面文化幣的網站確實可以讓使用者很直覺在首頁就瀏覽最近有什麼藝人活動啦電影啦展覽等等可是我們動資網就相對陽春了就是說我們在動資網是用營業列別去分類讓使用者去搜尋\n\n26\n00:09:14,155 --> 00:09:36,030\n可是你用營業類別去分類的話這個學生其實很難懂所以有青藤先生真的要來參考文化幣的APP的藝文消費點的地圖有這個消費點的地圖我們使用者就可以依據所在位置去查詢周遭可以使用動資券的地方所以我想本席針對剛剛提到這個問題是不是我們體育署有相關的規劃改善的措施\n\n27\n00:09:41,233 --> 00:09:59,760\n包委員謝謝您那個剛兩階段的部分主要是因為要防避因為之前有到臨的情況所以有兩階段的一個認證那其他您剛提到的不管是APP不管是網頁的呈現體育署雖然在文化設計方面很微微不如文化部但是我們會跟他們學習謝謝委員的建議我們會回去做好好的改善\n\n28\n00:10:00,060 --> 00:10:14,874\n好所以做一個APP很重要啦就是說跟文化必要有做一個APP那我想目前因為可以領用動資券的那個年紀是16到22那我大致看一下使用的情形喔去年領券率是38%\n\n29\n00:10:16,215 --> 00:10:37,029\n那今年到4月7號為止領捐率差不多17.53%整體使用狀況其實並不高所以是不是有什麼樣精進的措施來提高鼓勵年輕人來使用動資券那後續有沒有像文化幣一樣年齡往下延伸那這個是不是有什麼計畫\n\n30\n00:10:38,070 --> 00:10:58,108\n我們有提出一些進進的方案包括我們可能未來要拜託跟國教署高教技職師一起來協助就是我們在學校舉辦的體育相關的活動、課程、社團、校隊還有我們一些家長有讓孩子們在高中的階段有一些運動相關的一些課程其實都可以來學習\n\n31\n00:10:58,829 --> 00:11:16,540\n推廣所以我們也會接觸家長的這方面的一個協會請他們來協助一起宣導其實學校端他們的運動相關的這個消費在校內發生的其實學校也可以來申請成為店家那我們跟UBike也有結合在全台灣的風景區大概從4月底開始有UBike的情況\n\n32\n00:11:19,262 --> 00:11:37,024\n這些也都可以結我們的青春動之券所以我們其實有積極在努力在尋求運動文化這件事情我們也在討論是不是有一類是運動相關的展演或者是一些博覽會之類的我們是不是也把它納入這部分我們內部正在討論當中年齡向下延伸這部分\n\n33\n00:11:38,205 --> 00:12:02,476\n委員我這邊我再跟院方這邊做一個請那我是建議說或許說我們如果說有一些達到某些目標的使用者像說看運動賽事啊或者從事室內運動及戶外運動這三大項目都有使用過的人針對這些人來加碼或者說寒暑假也可以加碼這個也提高他們要使用的這個意願啦好以上謝謝署長謝謝部長謝謝主席謝謝怡謹札韋部長署長請回座\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n1132\t2235\t請政部長跟政署長請部長署長\n10390\t30128\t委員好部長好我想首先還是先來關心一下就是我們運動部即將在8月就要掛牌上市掛牌成立那剩下不到半年的時間身為運動迷的我其實非常期待這個運動發展有這個新的篇章那可是運動部成立我們有很多事情要調整\n31229\t36852\t像說我們教育部的業務分工學生運動員的培訓選拔還有比賽跟輔導還有各級學校專任運動教練的聘任跟考核的業務要怎麼分工跟分配合作的問題那從法規面來看確實有很多需要跟著修正尤其是國民體育法\n52120\t66056\t可能我們光看章名就好國民體育法的第二章是學生體育第三章是全民運動不過運動部成立之後我們學校體育就歸教育部管轄那全民運動是歸運動部管轄所以這個法規的名稱叫國民體育法\n70220\t95488\t所以是不是隨著運動部的成立我們就顯得這個國民體育法必須要單修要來修法不然就顯得很不合時宜那之前我們本辦有跟體育署來了解就是運動部跟教育部的職長分工還有法規修正的方向那體育署有初步跟我們報告這個討論的進度那目前就是說還在廣泛收集意見的階段\n97809\t112569\t等各業務單位釐清這個業務執掌跟政策方向再提報行政院來討論當時提署也有提到說運動部組織法通過了附帶決議有提到說運動部應於成立後一年\n113470\t132683\t一年內完成前述法律及其他相關政令法律之延商那我可以理解說目前運動部長院還沒有確定由誰擔任那或許要等到新部長上任之後依照部長的願景跟目標來細緻的修正法規可是我還是要提醒一點運動部的籌備應該跟法規的修正\n137807\t159820\t來並行討論因為等運動部成立之後那法規修正也才能趕快快速跟上不然你在一年內喔那個相關的業務推行恐怕就會很麻煩像你教育部跟運動部的那個一些執掌可能會相互推委卸責啦或者還沒有說等法規備齊我們再來說那可是有一些計畫喔\n161101\t180132\t那可能變成你地方很難去執行那這個錢到底由誰管 匣經費拿來就你會有一年你在法規還沒有明定之前你一年內一年內就很混沌不明所以我想這個都是我們要預想出來的問題因為這個混沌不明會造成選手跟所謂的教練權益受損的問題\n181152\t206457\t那我再簡單就是說先請部長說明一下或請署長說明就是說我們後續這個國民體育法要如何的修法另外就是說未來運動部跟教育部執掌的規劃是不是可以說明一下你們最近開會一次的進度到哪裡那對於我剛剛提到這些問題那有什麼樣部分是覺得相對困難的地方\n208045\t224442\t謝謝委員關心我們運動部這個成立以後在這個體育教學在人才培育包括全民運動怎麼樣去跟教育部跟體育運動部來做分工事實上也跟委員報告我們不管是這個副院長或者我們這個政委\n227250\t245757\t然後召集我們這個跨部會包含我們體育署還有我們教育部目前由張亮這個次長來主要負責督導事實上已經有召開非常多的包含我們所關心的法令上的盤點包含這個全民運動又我們包含這個小學這一個專任教練\n251019\t269726\t那到底要怎麼結合社區的這個俱樂部包含這個全民運動 校園開放然後跟第一線上的這些老師專業老師做一些討論事實上都有形成了一些共識那我想這委員所關心的這是我們在這一段籌備時間陸續都在進行的那詳細的是不是請這個鎮署長來補充說明\n275948\t302066\t鮑委員我們其實重點在分為學校體育場地游泳教學體育班專門教練基優生升學已經適應運動適應體育等等其實我們開了不只超過七次的會議那我們談得非常非常的細我們還持續在進行所以我們相信在運動部成立之前我們跟國教署以及甚至未來有可能牽涉到高教師以及記者是都有一個很好明確的分工我們會在確保在掛牌之前把這件事情把它做好\n303066\t319634\t因為剛剛部長也有提到像說小學因為現在就是有現場的小學的老師來反映就是說像國小非體育專長的教師培育計畫那因為未來的業務不確定由誰來主管所以老師會一度很擔心這個計畫會被中斷但就國小非體育專長的教師培育計畫這個例子來看就好\n325256\t339790\t你後續到底是運動部主管還是教育部主管那我也想請問說那能不能保證說在運動部成立後法規還沒有完備前那包括老師啊 學生或運動教練或選手或特定的運動團體等等這些會不會因為這個職長不確定性這個計畫會受到影響\n345250\t367711\t跟委員報告感謝委員提醒但是我想運動部的一個成立從教育部的體育署成立一個新的一個運動部我想我們就希望透過運動部能夠有一個更好的一個這個運動人才的培育或者是運動產業讓大家透過全民運動然後能夠更健康\n370033\t391176\t雖然有分工但是不要忘掉他是一個團隊他還是有合作的所以有關這個一般的體育教學我想我利用這個機會讓我們所有的小學的老師怎麼樣讓一般的老師能夠有體育的這個相關運動上的一個真人這是我們積極在做的那另外\n392779\t417303\t分工以後我們事實上一定會有更多的一些緊密的合作我想也謝謝委員提醒但我也利用這個機會讓我們這個第一線上的老師不管運動教練請放心我們一定會有一個非常周全的一些支持的系統希望更多的資源來挹注我們在中小學教育的這個體育教學包括人才培育\n417363\t439319\tOK 好希望你們這個充分的準備讓那個基層的老師沒有擔憂那另外我們運動部成立的很大一個項目的業務就是要全民運動推廣全民運動跟扶植運動產業那體育署在今年2月有公布一項2023年度你們所做的我國民眾運動消費支出的調查報告\n440681\t467324\t那這個調查報告我本期要跟您討論就是我聚焦在學生族群的這個運動推廣的這個政策就是所謂的青春動資券那我前面有提到說這個報告裡面其實我們受訪的青年他多數是很肯定青年動資券的那真的確實有提升運動看比賽的意願那可是目前就是說\n468404\t485891\t這個青年動資券是從動資網領用那有青年就認為說其實網站的形式操作上很不容易像說要先登記再領取那這兩個階段都需要輸入個人資料那動作重複性很高而且手機的版本的動資\n487972\t515130\t動資網的介面也比較不容易可以找到那個QR Code的位置那另外有的人會預先把折抵QR Code的截圖先存在手機可是你的QR Code又限當日使用所以很多的青年就在現場重複取得QR Code這個流程那會有點麻煩那有些青年會說那個碰到業者也不曉得自家可不可以用動資券那也不太會操作所以也沒有辦法輔導所以很多青年是建議說\n517652\t530366\t他們有那個專屬的APP那店家在那個櫃檯放收款的QR code也有放牌子可以讓使用者去掃那這樣就比較方便那我想我也看了一下動資網跟文化幣\n532488\t552735\t這網路使用的介面文化幣的網站確實可以讓使用者很直覺在首頁就瀏覽最近有什麼藝人活動啦 電影啦 展覽等等可是我們動資網就相對陽春了就是說我們在動資網是用營業列別去分類讓使用者去搜尋\n554155\t576030\t可是你用營業類別去分類的話這個學生其實很難懂所以有青藤先生真的要來參考文化幣的APP的藝文消費點的地圖有這個消費點的地圖我們使用者就可以依據所在位置去查詢周遭可以使用動資券的地方所以我想本席針對剛剛提到這個問題是不是我們體育署有相關的規劃改善的措施\n581233\t599760\t包委員謝謝您那個剛兩階段的部分主要是因為要防避因為之前有到臨的情況所以有兩階段的一個認證那其他您剛提到的不管是APP不管是網頁的呈現體育署雖然在文化設計方面很微微不如文化部但是我們會跟他們學習謝謝委員的建議我們會回去做好好的改善\n600060\t614874\t好 所以做一個APP很重要啦就是說跟文化必要有做一個APP那我想目前因為可以領用動資券的那個年紀是16到22那我大致看一下使用的情形喔去年領券率是38%\n616215\t637029\t那今年到4月7號為止領捐率差不多17.53%整體使用狀況其實並不高所以是不是有什麼樣精進的措施來提高鼓勵年輕人來使用動資券那後續有沒有像文化幣一樣年齡往下延伸那這個是不是有什麼計畫\n638070\t658108\t我們有提出一些進進的方案包括我們可能未來要拜託跟國教署高教技職師一起來協助就是我們在學校舉辦的體育相關的活動、課程、社團、校隊還有我們一些家長有讓孩子們在高中的階段有一些運動相關的一些課程其實都可以來學習\n658829\t676540\t推廣所以我們也會接觸家長的這方面的一個協會請他們來協助一起宣導其實學校端他們的運動相關的這個消費在校內發生的其實學校也可以來申請成為店家那我們跟UBike也有結合在全台灣的風景區大概從4月底開始有UBike的情況\n679262\t697024\t這些也都可以結我們的青春動之券所以我們其實有積極在努力在尋求運動文化這件事情我們也在討論是不是有一類是運動相關的展演或者是一些博覽會之類的我們是不是也把它納入這部分我們內部正在討論當中年齡向下延伸這部分\n698205\t722476\t委員我這邊我再跟院方這邊做一個請那我是建議說或許說我們如果說有一些達到某些目標的使用者像說看運動賽事啊或者從事室內運動及戶外運動這三大項目都有使用過的人針對這些人來加碼或者說寒暑假也可以加碼這個也提高他們要使用的這個意願啦好 以上謝謝署長 謝謝部長謝謝主席謝謝怡謹 札韋部長 署長請回座\n","txt":"請政部長跟政署長請部長署長\n委員好部長好我想首先還是先來關心一下就是我們運動部即將在8月就要掛牌上市掛牌成立那剩下不到半年的時間身為運動迷的我其實非常期待這個運動發展有這個新的篇章那可是運動部成立我們有很多事情要調整\n像說我們教育部的業務分工學生運動員的培訓選拔還有比賽跟輔導還有各級學校專任運動教練的聘任跟考核的業務要怎麼分工跟分配合作的問題那從法規面來看確實有很多需要跟著修正尤其是國民體育法\n可能我們光看章名就好國民體育法的第二章是學生體育第三章是全民運動不過運動部成立之後我們學校體育就歸教育部管轄那全民運動是歸運動部管轄所以這個法規的名稱叫國民體育法\n所以是不是隨著運動部的成立我們就顯得這個國民體育法必須要單修要來修法不然就顯得很不合時宜那之前我們本辦有跟體育署來了解就是運動部跟教育部的職長分工還有法規修正的方向那體育署有初步跟我們報告這個討論的進度那目前就是說還在廣泛收集意見的階段\n等各業務單位釐清這個業務執掌跟政策方向再提報行政院來討論當時提署也有提到說運動部組織法通過了附帶決議有提到說運動部應於成立後一年\n一年內完成前述法律及其他相關政令法律之延商那我可以理解說目前運動部長院還沒有確定由誰擔任那或許要等到新部長上任之後依照部長的願景跟目標來細緻的修正法規可是我還是要提醒一點運動部的籌備應該跟法規的修正\n來並行討論因為等運動部成立之後那法規修正也才能趕快快速跟上不然你在一年內喔那個相關的業務推行恐怕就會很麻煩像你教育部跟運動部的那個一些執掌可能會相互推委卸責啦或者還沒有說等法規備齊我們再來說那可是有一些計畫喔\n那可能變成你地方很難去執行那這個錢到底由誰管 匣經費拿來就你會有一年你在法規還沒有明定之前你一年內一年內就很混沌不明所以我想這個都是我們要預想出來的問題因為這個混沌不明會造成選手跟所謂的教練權益受損的問題\n那我再簡單就是說先請部長說明一下或請署長說明就是說我們後續這個國民體育法要如何的修法另外就是說未來運動部跟教育部執掌的規劃是不是可以說明一下你們最近開會一次的進度到哪裡那對於我剛剛提到這些問題那有什麼樣部分是覺得相對困難的地方\n謝謝委員關心我們運動部這個成立以後在這個體育教學在人才培育包括全民運動怎麼樣去跟教育部跟體育運動部來做分工事實上也跟委員報告我們不管是這個副院長或者我們這個政委\n然後召集我們這個跨部會包含我們體育署還有我們教育部目前由張亮這個次長來主要負責督導事實上已經有召開非常多的包含我們所關心的法令上的盤點包含這個全民運動又我們包含這個小學這一個專任教練\n那到底要怎麼結合社區的這個俱樂部包含這個全民運動 校園開放然後跟第一線上的這些老師專業老師做一些討論事實上都有形成了一些共識那我想這委員所關心的這是我們在這一段籌備時間陸續都在進行的那詳細的是不是請這個鎮署長來補充說明\n鮑委員我們其實重點在分為學校體育場地游泳教學體育班專門教練基優生升學已經適應運動適應體育等等其實我們開了不只超過七次的會議那我們談得非常非常的細我們還持續在進行所以我們相信在運動部成立之前我們跟國教署以及甚至未來有可能牽涉到高教師以及記者是都有一個很好明確的分工我們會在確保在掛牌之前把這件事情把它做好\n因為剛剛部長也有提到像說小學因為現在就是有現場的小學的老師來反映就是說像國小非體育專長的教師培育計畫那因為未來的業務不確定由誰來主管所以老師會一度很擔心這個計畫會被中斷但就國小非體育專長的教師培育計畫這個例子來看就好\n你後續到底是運動部主管還是教育部主管那我也想請問說那能不能保證說在運動部成立後法規還沒有完備前那包括老師啊 學生或運動教練或選手或特定的運動團體等等這些會不會因為這個職長不確定性這個計畫會受到影響\n跟委員報告感謝委員提醒但是我想運動部的一個成立從教育部的體育署成立一個新的一個運動部我想我們就希望透過運動部能夠有一個更好的一個這個運動人才的培育或者是運動產業讓大家透過全民運動然後能夠更健康\n雖然有分工但是不要忘掉他是一個團隊他還是有合作的所以有關這個一般的體育教學我想我利用這個機會讓我們所有的小學的老師怎麼樣讓一般的老師能夠有體育的這個相關運動上的一個真人這是我們積極在做的那另外\n分工以後我們事實上一定會有更多的一些緊密的合作我想也謝謝委員提醒但我也利用這個機會讓我們這個第一線上的老師不管運動教練請放心我們一定會有一個非常周全的一些支持的系統希望更多的資源來挹注我們在中小學教育的這個體育教學包括人才培育\nOK 好希望你們這個充分的準備讓那個基層的老師沒有擔憂那另外我們運動部成立的很大一個項目的業務就是要全民運動推廣全民運動跟扶植運動產業那體育署在今年2月有公布一項2023年度你們所做的我國民眾運動消費支出的調查報告\n那這個調查報告我本期要跟您討論就是我聚焦在學生族群的這個運動推廣的這個政策就是所謂的青春動資券那我前面有提到說這個報告裡面其實我們受訪的青年他多數是很肯定青年動資券的那真的確實有提升運動看比賽的意願那可是目前就是說\n這個青年動資券是從動資網領用那有青年就認為說其實網站的形式操作上很不容易像說要先登記再領取那這兩個階段都需要輸入個人資料那動作重複性很高而且手機的版本的動資\n動資網的介面也比較不容易可以找到那個QR Code的位置那另外有的人會預先把折抵QR Code的截圖先存在手機可是你的QR Code又限當日使用所以很多的青年就在現場重複取得QR Code這個流程那會有點麻煩那有些青年會說那個碰到業者也不曉得自家可不可以用動資券那也不太會操作所以也沒有辦法輔導所以很多青年是建議說\n他們有那個專屬的APP那店家在那個櫃檯放收款的QR code也有放牌子可以讓使用者去掃那這樣就比較方便那我想我也看了一下動資網跟文化幣\n這網路使用的介面文化幣的網站確實可以讓使用者很直覺在首頁就瀏覽最近有什麼藝人活動啦 電影啦 展覽等等可是我們動資網就相對陽春了就是說我們在動資網是用營業列別去分類讓使用者去搜尋\n可是你用營業類別去分類的話這個學生其實很難懂所以有青藤先生真的要來參考文化幣的APP的藝文消費點的地圖有這個消費點的地圖我們使用者就可以依據所在位置去查詢周遭可以使用動資券的地方所以我想本席針對剛剛提到這個問題是不是我們體育署有相關的規劃改善的措施\n包委員謝謝您那個剛兩階段的部分主要是因為要防避因為之前有到臨的情況所以有兩階段的一個認證那其他您剛提到的不管是APP不管是網頁的呈現體育署雖然在文化設計方面很微微不如文化部但是我們會跟他們學習謝謝委員的建議我們會回去做好好的改善\n好 所以做一個APP很重要啦就是說跟文化必要有做一個APP那我想目前因為可以領用動資券的那個年紀是16到22那我大致看一下使用的情形喔去年領券率是38%\n那今年到4月7號為止領捐率差不多17.53%整體使用狀況其實並不高所以是不是有什麼樣精進的措施來提高鼓勵年輕人來使用動資券那後續有沒有像文化幣一樣年齡往下延伸那這個是不是有什麼計畫\n我們有提出一些進進的方案包括我們可能未來要拜託跟國教署高教技職師一起來協助就是我們在學校舉辦的體育相關的活動、課程、社團、校隊還有我們一些家長有讓孩子們在高中的階段有一些運動相關的一些課程其實都可以來學習\n推廣所以我們也會接觸家長的這方面的一個協會請他們來協助一起宣導其實學校端他們的運動相關的這個消費在校內發生的其實學校也可以來申請成為店家那我們跟UBike也有結合在全台灣的風景區大概從4月底開始有UBike的情況\n這些也都可以結我們的青春動之券所以我們其實有積極在努力在尋求運動文化這件事情我們也在討論是不是有一類是運動相關的展演或者是一些博覽會之類的我們是不是也把它納入這部分我們內部正在討論當中年齡向下延伸這部分\n委員我這邊我再跟院方這邊做一個請那我是建議說或許說我們如果說有一些達到某些目標的使用者像說看運動賽事啊或者從事室內運動及戶外運動這三大項目都有使用過的人針對這些人來加碼或者說寒暑假也可以加碼這個也提高他們要使用的這個意願啦好 以上謝謝署長 謝謝部長謝謝主席謝謝怡謹 札韋部長 署長請回座\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:01.132 --> 00:02.235\n請政部長跟政署長請部長署長\n\n00:10.390 --> 00:30.128\n委員好部長好我想首先還是先來關心一下就是我們運動部即將在8月就要掛牌上市掛牌成立那剩下不到半年的時間身為運動迷的我其實非常期待這個運動發展有這個新的篇章那可是運動部成立我們有很多事情要調整\n\n00:31.229 --> 00:36.852\n像說我們教育部的業務分工學生運動員的培訓選拔還有比賽跟輔導還有各級學校專任運動教練的聘任跟考核的業務要怎麼分工跟分配合作的問題那從法規面來看確實有很多需要跟著修正尤其是國民體育法\n\n00:52.120 --> 01:06.056\n可能我們光看章名就好國民體育法的第二章是學生體育第三章是全民運動不過運動部成立之後我們學校體育就歸教育部管轄那全民運動是歸運動部管轄所以這個法規的名稱叫國民體育法\n\n01:10.220 --> 01:35.488\n所以是不是隨著運動部的成立我們就顯得這個國民體育法必須要單修要來修法不然就顯得很不合時宜那之前我們本辦有跟體育署來了解就是運動部跟教育部的職長分工還有法規修正的方向那體育署有初步跟我們報告這個討論的進度那目前就是說還在廣泛收集意見的階段\n\n01:37.809 --> 01:52.569\n等各業務單位釐清這個業務執掌跟政策方向再提報行政院來討論當時提署也有提到說運動部組織法通過了附帶決議有提到說運動部應於成立後一年\n\n01:53.470 --> 02:12.683\n一年內完成前述法律及其他相關政令法律之延商那我可以理解說目前運動部長院還沒有確定由誰擔任那或許要等到新部長上任之後依照部長的願景跟目標來細緻的修正法規可是我還是要提醒一點運動部的籌備應該跟法規的修正\n\n02:17.807 --> 02:39.820\n來並行討論因為等運動部成立之後那法規修正也才能趕快快速跟上不然你在一年內喔那個相關的業務推行恐怕就會很麻煩像你教育部跟運動部的那個一些執掌可能會相互推委卸責啦或者還沒有說等法規備齊我們再來說那可是有一些計畫喔\n\n02:41.101 --> 03:00.132\n那可能變成你地方很難去執行那這個錢到底由誰管匣經費拿來就你會有一年你在法規還沒有明定之前你一年內一年內就很混沌不明所以我想這個都是我們要預想出來的問題因為這個混沌不明會造成選手跟所謂的教練權益受損的問題\n\n03:01.152 --> 03:26.457\n那我再簡單就是說先請部長說明一下或請署長說明就是說我們後續這個國民體育法要如何的修法另外就是說未來運動部跟教育部執掌的規劃是不是可以說明一下你們最近開會一次的進度到哪裡那對於我剛剛提到這些問題那有什麼樣部分是覺得相對困難的地方\n\n03:28.045 --> 03:44.442\n謝謝委員關心我們運動部這個成立以後在這個體育教學在人才培育包括全民運動怎麼樣去跟教育部跟體育運動部來做分工事實上也跟委員報告我們不管是這個副院長或者我們這個政委\n\n03:47.250 --> 04:05.757\n然後召集我們這個跨部會包含我們體育署還有我們教育部目前由張亮這個次長來主要負責督導事實上已經有召開非常多的包含我們所關心的法令上的盤點包含這個全民運動又我們包含這個小學這一個專任教練\n\n04:11.019 --> 04:29.726\n那到底要怎麼結合社區的這個俱樂部包含這個全民運動校園開放然後跟第一線上的這些老師專業老師做一些討論事實上都有形成了一些共識那我想這委員所關心的這是我們在這一段籌備時間陸續都在進行的那詳細的是不是請這個鎮署長來補充說明\n\n04:35.948 --> 05:02.066\n鮑委員我們其實重點在分為學校體育場地游泳教學體育班專門教練基優生升學已經適應運動適應體育等等其實我們開了不只超過七次的會議那我們談得非常非常的細我們還持續在進行所以我們相信在運動部成立之前我們跟國教署以及甚至未來有可能牽涉到高教師以及記者是都有一個很好明確的分工我們會在確保在掛牌之前把這件事情把它做好\n\n05:03.066 --> 05:19.634\n因為剛剛部長也有提到像說小學因為現在就是有現場的小學的老師來反映就是說像國小非體育專長的教師培育計畫那因為未來的業務不確定由誰來主管所以老師會一度很擔心這個計畫會被中斷但就國小非體育專長的教師培育計畫這個例子來看就好\n\n05:25.256 --> 05:39.790\n你後續到底是運動部主管還是教育部主管那我也想請問說那能不能保證說在運動部成立後法規還沒有完備前那包括老師啊學生或運動教練或選手或特定的運動團體等等這些會不會因為這個職長不確定性這個計畫會受到影響\n\n05:45.250 --> 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學生或運動教練或選手或特定的運動團體等等這些會不會因為這個職長不確定性這個計畫會受到影響"},{"start":345.25,"end":367.711,"text":"跟委員報告感謝委員提醒但是我想運動部的一個成立從教育部的體育署成立一個新的一個運動部我想我們就希望透過運動部能夠有一個更好的一個這個運動人才的培育或者是運動產業讓大家透過全民運動然後能夠更健康"},{"start":370.033,"end":391.176,"text":"雖然有分工但是不要忘掉他是一個團隊他還是有合作的所以有關這個一般的體育教學我想我利用這個機會讓我們所有的小學的老師怎麼樣讓一般的老師能夠有體育的這個相關運動上的一個真人這是我們積極在做的那另外"},{"start":392.779,"end":417.303,"text":"分工以後我們事實上一定會有更多的一些緊密的合作我想也謝謝委員提醒但我也利用這個機會讓我們這個第一線上的老師不管運動教練請放心我們一定會有一個非常周全的一些支持的系統希望更多的資源來挹注我們在中小學教育的這個體育教學包括人才培育"},{"start":417.363,"end":439.319,"text":"OK 好希望你們這個充分的準備讓那個基層的老師沒有擔憂那另外我們運動部成立的很大一個項目的業務就是要全民運動推廣全民運動跟扶植運動產業那體育署在今年2月有公布一項2023年度你們所做的我國民眾運動消費支出的調查報告"},{"start":440.681,"end":467.324,"text":"那這個調查報告我本期要跟您討論就是我聚焦在學生族群的這個運動推廣的這個政策就是所謂的青春動資券那我前面有提到說這個報告裡面其實我們受訪的青年他多數是很肯定青年動資券的那真的確實有提升運動看比賽的意願那可是目前就是說"},{"start":468.404,"end":485.891,"text":"這個青年動資券是從動資網領用那有青年就認為說其實網站的形式操作上很不容易像說要先登記再領取那這兩個階段都需要輸入個人資料那動作重複性很高而且手機的版本的動資"},{"start":487.972,"end":515.13,"text":"動資網的介面也比較不容易可以找到那個QR Code的位置那另外有的人會預先把折抵QR Code的截圖先存在手機可是你的QR 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code的牌子，可以讓使用者去掃，這樣就比較方便。","我看了一下動滋網跟文化幣的網路使用介面，文化幣網站確實可以讓使用者很直覺的在首頁瀏覽最近有什麼藝文活動、電影、展覽等等，可是動滋網就相對陽春了，動滋網是用營業類別去分類，讓使用者去搜尋，可是用營業類別去分類的話，對學生而言其實很難懂，所以有青年建議真的要參考文化幣app的藝文消費點地圖，有這個消費點的地圖，使用者就可以依據所在位置去查詢周遭可以使用動滋券的地方，針對本席剛剛提到的這個問題，體育署是不是有相關的規畫及改善措施？"],["鄭署長世忠：報告委員，謝謝你，剛剛那個兩階段主要是為了防弊，因為之前有盜領的情況，所以有兩階段的認證。其他您提到的，不管是app或是網頁的呈現，體育署雖然在文化設計方面永遠不如文化部，但是我們會跟他們學習，謝謝委員的建議，我們會回去好好的做改善。"],["林委員宜瑾：好，所以做一個app很重要，就是跟文化幣一樣做一個app。目前可以領用動滋券的年紀是16到22歲，我大致看一下使用的情形，去年領券率是38%，今年到4月7號為止，領券率差不多17.53%，其實整體使用狀況並不高，所以是不是有什麼樣精進的措施來提高並鼓勵年輕人使用動滋券？後續有沒有規劃像文化幣一樣把年齡往下延伸？這是不是有什麼計畫？"],["鄭署長世忠：報告委員，我們有提出一些精進的方案，包括我們未來可能要拜託國教署、高教技職司一起來協助，我們在學校舉辦體育相關的活動、課程、校隊，還有一些家長讓孩子在高中階段有一些運動相關的課程，這些都可以來推廣，所以我們也會接觸家長這方面的協會，請他們協助一起宣導，學校端與運動相關的消費，在校內發生的，其實學校也可以來申請成為店家。","我們跟UBike也有結合，全臺灣的風景區大概從4月底開始，有UBike的也都可以結合我們的青春動滋券，所以我們其實有積極在努力在尋求……"],["林委員宜瑾：好。"],["鄭署長世忠：關於運動文化這件事情，我們也在討論一些和運動相關的展演或者是博覽會之類的是不是也把它納入，這部分我們內部正在討論當中。"],["林委員宜瑾：好，那年齡向下延伸呢？"],["鄭署長世忠：委員，這部分我再跟院方這邊做一個……"],["林委員宜瑾：好，我建議，如果有一些達到某些目標的使用者，像是看運動賽事，或者從事室內運動及戶外運動者，針對這三大項目都有使用過的人來加碼，或是寒暑假也可以加碼，也提高他們使用的意願。以上，謝謝署長、謝謝部長、謝謝主席。"],["鄭署長世忠：好，謝謝委員。"],["主席：謝謝宜瑾召委，部長、署長，請回座。"],["主席（林委員宜瑾）：接下來請郭昱晴委員。"]],"agenda":{"page_end":186,"meet_id":"聯席會議-11-3-22,20-1","speakers":["林宜瑾","葛如鈞","羅廷瑋","柯志恩","萬美玲","劉書彬","伍麗華Saidhai‧Tahovecahe","范雲","李坤城","吳沛憶","陳秀寳","郭昱晴","鍾佳濱","張雅琳","林楚茵","陳培瑜","洪孟楷","徐富癸","葉元之","蘇清泉","黃捷","林沛祥","林德福","顏寬恒"],"page_start":117,"meetingDate":["2025-04-09"],"gazette_id":"1143501","agenda_lcidc_ids":["1143501_00004"],"meet_name":"立法院第11屆第3會期教育及文化、財政委員會第1次聯席會議紀錄","content":"一、審查行政院函請審議「運動彩券發行條例第二十一條及第二十一條之一條文修正草案」案；\n二、審查委員沈發惠等19人擬具「運動彩券發行條例第二條及第二十一條條文修正草案」案；\n三、審查委員葉元之等19人擬具「運動彩券發行條例第二條條文修正草案」案；四、審查委員葛\n如鈞等20人擬具「運動彩券發行條例第二條及第二十一條條文修正草案」案；五、審查委員羅廷\n瑋等17人擬具「運動彩券發行條例第二十一條及第二十一條之一條文修正草案」案；六、審查委\n員蔡其昌等16人擬具「運動彩券發行條例第二條及第二十一條條文修正草案」案；七、審查委員\n王美惠等24人擬具「運動彩券發行條例第二十一條及第二十一條之一條文修正草案」案；八、審\n查委員吳思瑤等18人擬具「運動彩券發行條例第二十一條及第二十一條之一條文修正草案」案；\n九、審查委員郭國文等17人擬具「運動彩券發行條例第二十一條及第二十一條之一條文修正草\n案」案","agenda_id":"1143501_00003"}}}