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00:00:58,900\n那這880億其實您提出的希望可以紓困的這個方案需要立法院通過那這幾天連續好幾個院會我們議事都空轉了您坐在下面會不會著急呢\n\n4\n00:00:59,795 --> 00:01:23,918\n我們大概這個是因為提特別預算我們希望能夠在這個院會我們行政院院會先通過然後趕快送來給大院來請大家立法院現在一直空轉沒辦法開會大院如果沒有辦法通過沒有辦法開會沒有辦法通過您著不著急我們就現有的就現有的這個部分先能夠來\n\n5\n00:01:25,279 --> 00:01:49,775\n你們會不會希望說這個行政院也要跟這個黨團溝通一下儘速可以來開會趕快儘速通過因為昨天有非常多的縣市長也已經呼籲這個不是我們可以我們可以決定的我現在跟你們報告的意思就是說雖然你也對我們幫助很大希望能夠早一點通過這個880億但是如果我的意思就是說我們其實是這個880億是擴增出來的\n\n6\n00:01:52,757 --> 00:02:06,497\n增加出來的這些舒緩這些中小微企業的困擾我們本來就有一些預算存在所以如果你不能夠大院不能夠所以你們有另外的錢可以先支應\n\n7\n00:02:07,816 --> 00:02:28,081\n你們還有另外的錢可以先指引嗎那我本席想要提一下就在這一場風暴當中其實首當其衝的不是那些擁有全國佈局能力的大企業甚至也不是台積電而是我們這塊土地上最多數最辛苦最容易被犧牲的也就是我們167萬家中小微企業請問部長是否也認同呢\n\n8\n00:02:32,902 --> 00:02:52,698\n我們這一次的確實傷害比較大的層面是傳統產業也就是說中小微企業但是沒有到167萬家報告委員我們大概會比較辛苦的就是有幾個產業大概是哪幾個它是蘇美的\n\n9\n00:02:53,419 --> 00:02:58,903\n他做東西做起來是不會去美國的出口的如果去特區就沒有了所以美國在佔我們所有出口的部分但是你是認同中小23%而已所以這23%也很嚴重那你167萬加的23%也不是小數字呢對23%裡面有一半又是我們伺服器嚴肅的來檢視這個880億怎麼花\n\n10\n00:03:21,897 --> 00:03:22,557\n我們對這個所謂的他如果是做出口的\n\n11\n00:03:52,417 --> 00:04:08,982\n我們有幾個措施就是說他出口貸款可以做融資就是說他已經有訂單但是這些貨可能在船上或者是貨打包然後結果被通知停止出貨那既這一部分我們會給他一些資源\n\n12\n00:04:10,182 --> 00:04:14,984\n什麼樣的資源是補貼嗎直接型補貼嗎我們就是給他一些貸款啊貸款這就是我想要提出的問題了就是說可以貸款可以設點可以升級研發這其實是在補助還是在補刀因為中小企業最怕的不是沒有競爭力是撐不到可以競爭的那一天貸款也是債啊銀行也要審啊還要評估啊他們現在最缺的是解決眼前問題的這個活水\n\n13\n00:04:40,337 --> 00:05:07,451\n不是增加他們的這個負擔所以我是希望說是不是有可能將部分貸款的額度轉為直接型的補助來紓解他們現在的壓力尤其對於資金鏈中斷者能夠優先處理報告員你所關心的這個地方我們都從簡從素從優來處理希望從簡從素從優所以我們過去可能要搞一個月的我都要求他們兩天就要完成\n\n14\n00:05:08,411 --> 00:05:30,800\n所以這個我想我們從簡從適從優好謝謝部長有這樣子的決心那我想要請教部長目前有掌握多少家中小企業的這個訂單被中止或者是有類似的危機呢我們現在在進行訪談我們也就是說不用這個我必須要講今天雲林縣政府在\n\n15\n00:05:31,900 --> 00:05:33,821\n召集這些產業要討論目前遇到的問題但是你經濟部現在派不出人去參加因為我們每一個人都動員也是要派人去啊有的人在這裡有的人在別的委員會有的人到\n\n16\n00:05:46,405 --> 00:06:04,477\n我很願意當這個橋樑我會去聽我也會把問題整合帶回來但也希望說另外有一個困難就是紓困的問題現在現行的紓困是有門檻的就是說要15%的營收衰退才能符合紓困門檻我想請你複雜報告員那都已經取消了取消嗎所以這條線是已經取消了嗎都取消了\n\n17\n00:06:08,019 --> 00:06:26,305\n太好了因為我本來就想提醒部長說很多中小企業他本來就是唯利在經營甚至營收他跌個10%他可能就虧損了所以這一點希望部長能夠體諒他們我剛才講過了重塑重優重減所以不會有這些條款的限制\n\n18\n00:06:27,515 --> 00:06:43,520\n希望說我們所有經濟部能夠站在我們所有產業的角色來感受到他們的困難因為包括他們面臨的取消訂單貨卡在港口訂金拿不出來這些狀況其實也希望說我們經濟部這邊能夠趕快掌握最及時的\n\n19\n00:06:50,222 --> 00:06:57,664\n因為呢我們今天的質詢呢其實也是一個意見交流不只指出問題也希望真的有機會為我們這些企業爭取到改變那中小企業呢是我們台灣經濟的根基是數百萬家庭的這個資助那這個\n\n20\n00:07:08,368 --> 00:07:12,132\n也許您說不算是國難啊只是說是一個危機啊但是國難當前的現在需要我們部長還有經濟部所有的官員拿出智慧然後拿出這個決斷力跟這個良知那我想\n\n21\n00:07:23,325 --> 00:07:39,712\n我們大家一起努力我們一起努力我在這個地方有一個部分佔你一點點小時間我跟你報告就是說大家很擔心說我現在東西在船上啦我在怎麼樣怎麼樣我在這邊再報告一次4月5號以前在台灣出貨的走船的是\n\n22\n00:07:40,572 --> 00:08:05,166\n都沒有問題5月27號以前到達美國直接報關了就不受影響是4月5號到4月9號因為他宣布了然後這個部分是10%然後4月9號也就是今天以後才onboard那對不起就是32%所以大家在擔心說我現在準備4、5天空電了然後我有什麼東西不知道怎麼樣\n\n23\n00:08:06,243 --> 00:08:32,400\n跟委員報告跟大家報告就是原來的稅率這個我們會在經濟部的網站上面跟經濟部的這個公告上面可能要盡速啦盡速因為很多人現在是非常的恐慌非常的擔憂所以如果可以盡速也許今天下午你就把他PO上網很多中小企業他看了他會比較安心那我也希望說既然今天\n\n24\n00:08:32,500 --> 00:08:47,330\n今天部長有這個決心就是要從速從寬來協助我們這些中小企業本企業比較安心我也希望說我們可以共同努力為他們開闢一條更寬鬆的道路那因為這不只是救企業也是救台灣的忠誠民眾好嗎謝謝部長謝謝\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n4553\t7329\t主席我想請郭部長郭部長\n13769\t35620\t部長美國4月2號對台加徵32的對等關稅這是台美經濟關係數十年來可以說是最劇烈的一個變化能夠與之比擬的大概只有45年前台美斷交可以比擬你覺得不覺得這已經是我們國家的一個危機了呢我認為這是一個難題啦但也不見得是個危機啦\n42455\t58900\t那這880億其實您提出的希望可以紓困的這個方案需要立法院通過那這幾天連續好幾個院會我們議事都空轉了您坐在下面會不會著急呢\n59795\t83918\t我們大概這個是因為提特別預算我們希望能夠在這個院會我們行政院院會先通過然後趕快送來給大院來請大家立法院現在一直空轉沒辦法開會大院如果沒有辦法通過沒有辦法開會沒有辦法通過您著不著急我們就現有的就現有的這個部分先能夠來\n85279\t109775\t你們會不會希望說這個行政院也要跟這個黨團溝通一下儘速可以來開會趕快儘速通過因為昨天有非常多的縣市長也已經呼籲這個不是我們可以我們可以決定的我現在跟你們報告的意思就是說雖然你也對我們幫助很大希望能夠早一點通過這個880億但是如果我的意思就是說我們其實是這個880億是擴增出來的\n112757\t126497\t增加出來的這些舒緩這些中小微企業的困擾我們本來就有一些預算存在所以如果你不能夠大院不能夠所以你們有另外的錢可以先支應\n127816\t148081\t你們還有另外的錢可以先指引嗎那我本席想要提一下就在這一場風暴當中其實首當其衝的不是那些擁有全國佈局能力的大企業甚至也不是台積電而是我們這塊土地上最多數最辛苦最容易被犧牲的也就是我們167萬家中小微企業請問部長是否也認同呢\n152902\t172698\t我們這一次的確實傷害比較大的層面是傳統產業也就是說中小微企業但是沒有到167萬家報告委員我們大概會比較辛苦的就是有幾個產業大概是哪幾個它是蘇美的\n173419\t178903\t他做東西做起來是不會去美國的出口的如果去特區就沒有了所以美國在佔我們所有出口的部分但是你是認同中小23%而已所以這23%也很嚴重那你167萬加的23%也不是小數字呢對 23%裡面有一半又是我們伺服器嚴肅的來檢視這個880億怎麼花\n201897\t202557\t我們對這個所謂的他如果是做出口的\n232417\t248982\t我們有幾個措施就是說他出口貸款可以做融資就是說他已經有訂單但是這些貨可能在船上或者是貨打包然後結果被通知停止出貨那既這一部分我們會給他一些資源\n250182\t254984\t什麼樣的資源是補貼嗎直接型補貼嗎我們就是給他一些貸款啊貸款這就是我想要提出的問題了就是說可以貸款可以設點可以升級研發這其實是在補助還是在補刀因為中小企業最怕的不是沒有競爭力是撐不到可以競爭的那一天貸款也是債啊銀行也要審啊還要評估啊他們現在最缺的是解決眼前問題的這個活水\n280337\t307451\t不是增加他們的這個負擔所以我是希望說是不是有可能將部分貸款的額度轉為直接型的補助來紓解他們現在的壓力尤其對於資金鏈中斷者能夠優先處理報告員你所關心的這個地方我們都從簡從素從優來處理希望從簡從素從優所以我們過去可能要搞一個月的我都要求他們兩天就要完成\n308411\t330800\t所以這個我想我們從簡 從適從優好 謝謝部長有這樣子的決心那我想要請教部長目前有掌握多少家中小企業的這個訂單被中止或者是有類似的危機呢我們現在在進行訪談我們也就是說不用這個我必須要講今天雲林縣政府在\n331900\t333821\t召集這些產業要討論目前遇到的問題但是你經濟部現在派不出人去參加因為我們每一個人都動員也是要派人去啊有的人在這裡有的人在別的委員會有的人到\n346405\t364477\t我很願意當這個橋樑我會去聽我也會把問題整合帶回來但也希望說另外有一個困難就是紓困的問題現在現行的紓困是有門檻的就是說要15%的營收衰退才能符合紓困門檻我想請你複雜報告員那都已經取消了取消嗎所以這條線是已經取消了嗎都取消了\n368019\t386305\t太好了 因為我本來就想提醒部長說很多中小企業他本來就是唯利在經營甚至營收他跌個10%他可能就虧損了所以這一點希望部長能夠體諒他們我剛才講過了重塑 重優 重減所以不會有這些條款的限制\n387515\t403520\t希望說我們所有經濟部能夠站在我們所有產業的角色來感受到他們的困難因為包括他們面臨的取消訂單 貨卡在港口 訂金拿不出來這些狀況其實也希望說我們經濟部這邊能夠趕快掌握最及時的\n410222\t417664\t因為呢我們今天的質詢呢其實也是一個意見交流不只指出問題也希望真的有機會為我們這些企業爭取到改變那中小企業呢是我們台灣經濟的根基是數百萬家庭的這個資助那這個\n428368\t432132\t也許您說不算是國難啊只是說是一個危機啊但是國難當前的現在需要我們部長還有經濟部所有的官員拿出智慧然後拿出這個決斷力跟這個良知那我想\n443325\t459712\t我們大家一起努力我們一起努力我在這個地方有一個部分佔你一點點小時間我跟你報告就是說大家很擔心說我現在東西在船上啦我在怎麼樣怎麼樣我在這邊再報告一次4月5號以前在台灣出貨的走船的是\n460572\t485166\t都沒有問題5月27號以前到達美國直接報關了就不受影響是4月5號到4月9號因為他宣布了然後這個部分是10%然後4月9號也就是今天以後才on board那對不起就是32%所以大家在擔心說我現在準備4、5天空電了然後我有什麼東西不知道怎麼樣\n486243\t512400\t跟委員報告跟大家報告就是原來的稅率這個我們會在經濟部的網站上面跟經濟部的這個公告上面可能要盡速啦盡速因為很多人現在是非常的恐慌非常的擔憂所以如果可以盡速也許今天下午你就把他PO上網很多中小企業他看了他會比較安心那我也希望說既然今天\n512500\t527330\t今天部長有這個決心就是要從速從寬來協助我們這些中小企業本企業比較安心我也希望說我們可以共同努力為他們開闢一條更寬鬆的道路那因為這不只是救企業也是救台灣的忠誠民眾好嗎謝謝部長 謝謝\n","txt":"主席我想請郭部長郭部長\n部長美國4月2號對台加徵32的對等關稅這是台美經濟關係數十年來可以說是最劇烈的一個變化能夠與之比擬的大概只有45年前台美斷交可以比擬你覺得不覺得這已經是我們國家的一個危機了呢我認為這是一個難題啦但也不見得是個危機啦\n那這880億其實您提出的希望可以紓困的這個方案需要立法院通過那這幾天連續好幾個院會我們議事都空轉了您坐在下面會不會著急呢\n我們大概這個是因為提特別預算我們希望能夠在這個院會我們行政院院會先通過然後趕快送來給大院來請大家立法院現在一直空轉沒辦法開會大院如果沒有辦法通過沒有辦法開會沒有辦法通過您著不著急我們就現有的就現有的這個部分先能夠來\n你們會不會希望說這個行政院也要跟這個黨團溝通一下儘速可以來開會趕快儘速通過因為昨天有非常多的縣市長也已經呼籲這個不是我們可以我們可以決定的我現在跟你們報告的意思就是說雖然你也對我們幫助很大希望能夠早一點通過這個880億但是如果我的意思就是說我們其實是這個880億是擴增出來的\n增加出來的這些舒緩這些中小微企業的困擾我們本來就有一些預算存在所以如果你不能夠大院不能夠所以你們有另外的錢可以先支應\n你們還有另外的錢可以先指引嗎那我本席想要提一下就在這一場風暴當中其實首當其衝的不是那些擁有全國佈局能力的大企業甚至也不是台積電而是我們這塊土地上最多數最辛苦最容易被犧牲的也就是我們167萬家中小微企業請問部長是否也認同呢\n我們這一次的確實傷害比較大的層面是傳統產業也就是說中小微企業但是沒有到167萬家報告委員我們大概會比較辛苦的就是有幾個產業大概是哪幾個它是蘇美的\n他做東西做起來是不會去美國的出口的如果去特區就沒有了所以美國在佔我們所有出口的部分但是你是認同中小23%而已所以這23%也很嚴重那你167萬加的23%也不是小數字呢對 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訂金拿不出來這些狀況其實也希望說我們經濟部這邊能夠趕快掌握最及時的\n因為呢我們今天的質詢呢其實也是一個意見交流不只指出問題也希望真的有機會為我們這些企業爭取到改變那中小企業呢是我們台灣經濟的根基是數百萬家庭的這個資助那這個\n也許您說不算是國難啊只是說是一個危機啊但是國難當前的現在需要我們部長還有經濟部所有的官員拿出智慧然後拿出這個決斷力跟這個良知那我想\n我們大家一起努力我們一起努力我在這個地方有一個部分佔你一點點小時間我跟你報告就是說大家很擔心說我現在東西在船上啦我在怎麼樣怎麼樣我在這邊再報告一次4月5號以前在台灣出貨的走船的是\n都沒有問題5月27號以前到達美國直接報關了就不受影響是4月5號到4月9號因為他宣布了然後這個部分是10%然後4月9號也就是今天以後才on board那對不起就是32%所以大家在擔心說我現在準備4、5天空電了然後我有什麼東西不知道怎麼樣\n跟委員報告跟大家報告就是原來的稅率這個我們會在經濟部的網站上面跟經濟部的這個公告上面可能要盡速啦盡速因為很多人現在是非常的恐慌非常的擔憂所以如果可以盡速也許今天下午你就把他PO上網很多中小企業他看了他會比較安心那我也希望說既然今天\n今天部長有這個決心就是要從速從寬來協助我們這些中小企業本企業比較安心我也希望說我們可以共同努力為他們開闢一條更寬鬆的道路那因為這不只是救企業也是救台灣的忠誠民眾好嗎謝謝部長 謝謝\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:04.553 --> 00:07.329\n主席我想請郭部長郭部長\n\n00:13.769 --> 00:35.620\n部長美國4月2號對台加徵32的對等關稅這是台美經濟關係數十年來可以說是最劇烈的一個變化能夠與之比擬的大概只有45年前台美斷交可以比擬你覺得不覺得這已經是我們國家的一個危機了呢我認為這是一個難題啦但也不見得是個危機啦\n\n00:42.455 --> 00:58.900\n那這880億其實您提出的希望可以紓困的這個方案需要立法院通過那這幾天連續好幾個院會我們議事都空轉了您坐在下面會不會著急呢\n\n00:59.795 --> 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