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00:01:45,595\n務必要全面去清查尤其我們這個高屏沿海這一帶這個停泊的那個這個我們戰略的位置要還有甚至這個一些重要的一些商人的進出我想不能讓這樣子一個狀況發生尤其我們這個整個這個海嵐的安全的必要性那我們有沒有可能做強制一個驅離的動作\n\n6\n00:01:46,616 --> 00:02:11,577\n我們現在應該跟海巡那邊都有聯繫也有拜託海巡那邊有沒有做驅離的廣播其實應該也都有做驅離的廣播但是目前為止你沒有看到他做什麼違法的行徑所以他在那邊的過程當中我們就是用監控的方法我們也請中華電信隨時在看著自己的海欄如果他有接近或者是造成破壞馬上要讓我們知道\n\n7\n00:02:12,550 --> 00:02:31,525\n對不然除了這個問題之外我還是要提醒因為過去去年我們颱風風太極的時候好幾艘就被對全部都飄到我們這個高屏沿岸這也造成很大的一個損害所以我想這個怎麼樣再這樣做一個有效的管制安全的控管我們交通部必須要有對策\n\n8\n00:02:32,005 --> 00:02:56,255\n我們針對這個如果颱風要接近的時候我們會做一個管制是20海里還是12海里12海里以內不准他們靠近會把他們驅離到距離遠一點那這個部分我們會拜託海巡協助好謝謝那我想剛剛我們好幾位委員有特別提到這個陶磯的問題那尤其這個這個我們國人到出國的頻率非常非常的高\n\n9\n00:02:56,895 --> 00:03:24,530\n那淘機又是我們的門面但是目前看起來去年我們的淘機的地勤事故大概平均每個月就有一件那甚至我們每次到委員會這個淘氣楊董事長很辛苦的這個常常也是被委員這個質詢的一個對象那針對這樣一個電線走火行李系統故障甚至停電這些問題董事長到底我們淘機有沒有做怎樣怎麼樣一個內部的檢討\n\n10\n00:03:26,744 --> 00:03:53,819\n是表列的這幾件的停經事件事實上不管我個人在內都有參與我們同仁的這個檢討那這些設備因為第一航廈它是在68年啟用到現在所以有些設備的這個巡檢跟汰換的這個時間我們現在已經開始做提前做設備的汰換的這個動作另外每一個事件的發生我們一定會找到它真正發生的原因地點在哪裡有哪些改善的方法\n\n11\n00:03:54,739 --> 00:04:20,710\n那我們現在找到的幾個方法第一個就是我們提前做這個癱瘓巡檢第二個就是我們自己本身員工的部分要加強訓練還有維護廠商的部分那這些每一個事件整個過程當中我們會追根究柢到事件確實有所改善因為它影響的不是只有電力系統它會包括到我們的行李輸送系統等等都在內所以每一個事件我們都會做記錄那未來是希望這樣的一個頻率會減少甚至不會再發生\n\n12\n00:04:21,450 --> 00:04:37,859\n對當然也有可能因為我們現在出國的人數太多了我們原有的第一第二航廈這個量能負擔超載所以造成這個不堪系統的不堪使用那第三航廈部分是不是這個我們的相關的工程進度能請董事長說明一下什麼時候可以完成\n\n13\n00:04:39,108 --> 00:05:05,989\n第三航廈目前我們今年的下半年有一個第一個里程碑就是在下半年的9月10月左右我們的北登基郎廳要開始啟用接下來我們在南登基郎廳跟航廈的部分是在115年的年底之前希望能夠完成116年開始做試營運的動作那相關的還有一個PMS就是我們里克運輸系統會配合主體航廈完成的時間這些都按照原來既定的時間在趕工當中\n\n14\n00:05:07,611 --> 00:05:20,665\n我想這個也是包含立法院還有很多國人的期待希望我們整個淘擠的運作能夠正常然後相關的安全性的考量的承受度都能夠做一個最有效的檢討\n\n15\n00:05:33,260 --> 00:06:00,441\n我想部長跟署長也都很關切我們這個臺灣的一個觀光政策但是呢我現在本行要提出來就是我們在2019年觀光署提出一個2030年的一個臺灣觀光政策的白皮書那距離現在有一段時間但是呢我們現在看到過去我們訂定的一個2025年的一個臺灣來臺的旅客人數設定是1600萬人次但是很遺憾去年只有750\n\n16\n00:06:02,544 --> 00:06:16,063\n85萬那今年預估是1000萬但是呢根據我們拜祕書看起來比我們的那個保守值的1246萬還少了那我想這部分的落差這個部長跟署長我們要怎麼樣來加強\n\n17\n00:06:18,058 --> 00:06:39,876\n跟委員報告這個白皮書是在疫情之前2019年把它完成的最後在2020年發表那這個是一個算是學術跟產業界的綜合那我們本來就是滾動式的檢討所以我們在2023年也就是我們國防署成立的時候我們就再檢討了一次\n\n18\n00:06:40,596 --> 00:06:55,738\n那麼在這個我們這個520的時候我們在就是去年的5月30號在行政院有做一個修正做一個報告所以這個報告基本上這個白皮書的部分已經做滾動式的檢討是\n\n19\n00:06:58,020 --> 00:07:12,005\n我們目前的部分就像部長講的我們還是以千萬來台這樣子一個標準在努力我們希望能夠合理這部分的產生因為我們前陣子委員會也有到屏東來考察\n\n20\n00:07:12,585 --> 00:07:39,048\n那特別我想部長這個我們也一直在路上一直在討論整個這個整個重大交通的建設甚至觀光產業的一個整個協助的部分我想一定要從軟硬體全面來做檢討甚至我們在很多的一個觀光的這個誘因策略上面是不是有不一樣的想法我想這部分值得我們所有的產官學界大家共同來努力但是現在另外就是美國這個關稅政策\n\n21\n00:07:39,868 --> 00:08:04,614\n以後造成這個很多的一個產業的衝擊那我想觀光業可能我們這個業者也出了一彈那真的這部分部長這邊有什麼看法報告委員目前的衝擊到底有多大我想還沒有人估得出來那但是業者如果到時候受到衝擊需要協助的部分觀光署現在就會開始做準備如果真的有遇到很大的衝擊那業者需要幫忙我們一定會幫忙\n\n22\n00:08:05,274 --> 00:08:26,289\n那委員也在提醒所以這個部分我們就先來預作準備那不過我覺得衝擊到底多大這還需要一段時間的觀察那我們現在就會開始密切觀察它到底影響有多大因為目前為止稅率到底多少還沒有任何一個國家知道大家都還在變動當中那到底對經濟的影響有多大也還不曉得我們會密切來觀察這件事\n\n23\n00:08:27,245 --> 00:08:49,098\n這次也要謝謝部長跟署長我想針對整個屏東縣的觀光我們大概到這個今年底大概有一些的策略尤其這個交通部我們搭配了我們的國家公園署那搭配屏東縣政府我們也預定了很多的不一樣的一個活動的一個項目當然也是希望我們所有的國內外的遊客都能夠到屏東來\n\n24\n00:08:49,878 --> 00:09:12,882\n但是就是一樣這個我要提出這個論調就是說活動很好像這次清明年叫做臺灣祭人很多但是我覺得不能只靠這樣的一個活動的行銷怎麼樣去強迫我們整個這個觀光的一個亮點甚至這個在業者他們需要的一些配套上面怎麼樣給他們挹注的一個力道\n\n25\n00:09:13,382 --> 00:09:40,328\n我想這保齡最清楚啦是是他們有很多的想法但是苦於得不到我們關愛的眼神是是這保齡是不是我們可以再來強化一下跟所有的旅館業者民宿業者的一個合作會這個部分的合作我們會繼續來努力我們也跟他們都有聯繫好那最後一張我們看一下我們這個墾丁南灣這個保齡這樣有漂亮嗎這個陽傘有漂亮嗎現在比過去好看好看啊好看那我想這個也是我們在觀光署在我們在跟國家公園\n\n26\n00:09:40,948 --> 00:10:01,618\n管理處這邊合作的一個把這個南灣海灘把它美化的一個畫面這樣的一個跨部會的合作也是我們期待的那我也會再邀請我們相關的單位未來針對怎樣的一個觀光的一個策略的部分做有效的一個檢討希望我們部裡面也全力支持那歡迎大家到美麗的墾丁來玩謝謝\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n3637\t16665\t謝謝主席 有請我們陳部長跟韓市長請部長跟韓市長委員好 部長好 市長好\n17233\t41288\t那我想前陣子我們一直看到這個在我們高屏外海有很多艘的一個貨輪甚至是權益輪在那邊滯留那最近也發現有一艘坦尚尼亞的一個貨輪還有一艘柯麥隆的一個貨輪在我們仿山的海嵐區已經滯留大概半年的時間那不曉得我們交通部有沒有掌握相關的一個狀況\n42448\t62893\t報告委員 交通部都有掌握相關的狀況而且我們同時跟這個海巡單位也都有聯繫那尤其是我們擔心的這個海纜的問題我們跟中華電信也都有所聯繫那您在提醒的這個船我們已經有在關注了確實這半年裡面它的這個巡擊的狀況有點奇怪有點詭異那我們隨時都在關注\n63693\t85445\t部長我想這個不是一個海上交通的問題是很可能是國安的問題是那尤其我想這個我們這個很密集一個海南區域這族人到底有什麼企圖我們都不知道但是滯留半年這個真的就有詭異的現象出現那過去我想包含我們部裡面還有我們相關的單位我想我已經在委員會也提過很多次對\n86045\t105595\t務必要全面去清查尤其我們這個高屏沿海這一帶這個停泊的那個這個我們戰略的位置要還有甚至這個一些重要的一些商人的進出我想不能讓這樣子一個狀況發生尤其我們這個整個這個海嵐的安全的必要性那我們有沒有可能做強制一個驅離的動作\n106616\t131577\t我們現在應該跟海巡那邊都有聯繫也有拜託海巡那邊有沒有做驅離的廣播其實應該也都有做驅離的廣播但是目前為止你沒有看到他做什麼違法的行徑所以他在那邊的過程當中我們就是用監控的方法我們也請中華電信隨時在看著自己的海欄如果他有接近或者是造成破壞馬上要讓我們知道\n132550\t151525\t對 不然除了這個問題之外我還是要提醒因為過去去年我們颱風風太極的時候好幾艘就被對 全部都飄到我們這個高屏沿岸這也造成很大的一個損害所以我想這個怎麼樣再這樣做一個有效的管制安全的控管我們交通部必須要有對策\n152005\t176255\t我們針對這個如果颱風要接近的時候我們會做一個管制是20海里還是12海里12海里以內不准他們靠近會把他們驅離到距離遠一點那這個部分我們會拜託海巡協助好 謝謝那我想剛剛我們好幾位委員有特別提到這個陶磯的問題那尤其這個這個我們國人到出國的頻率非常非常的高\n176895\t204530\t那淘機又是我們的門面但是目前看起來去年我們的淘機的地勤事故大概平均每個月就有一件那甚至我們每次到委員會這個淘氣楊董事長很辛苦的這個常常也是被委員這個質詢的一個對象那針對這樣一個電線走火行李系統故障甚至停電這些問題董事長到底我們淘機有沒有做怎樣怎麼樣一個內部的檢討\n206744\t233819\t是 表列的這幾件的停經事件事實上 不管我個人在內都有參與我們同仁的這個檢討那這些設備因為第一航廈它是在68年啟用到現在所以有些設備的這個巡檢跟汰換的這個時間我們現在已經開始做提前做設備的汰換的這個動作另外每一個事件的發生我們一定會找到它真正發生的原因地點在哪裡有哪些改善的方法\n234739\t260710\t那我們現在找到的幾個方法第一個就是我們提前做這個癱瘓巡檢第二個就是我們自己本身員工的部分要加強訓練還有維護廠商的部分那這些每一個事件整個過程當中我們會追根究柢到事件確實有所改善因為它影響的不是只有電力系統它會包括到我們的行李輸送系統等等都在內所以每一個事件我們都會做記錄那未來是希望這樣的一個頻率會減少甚至不會再發生\n261450\t277859\t對當然也有可能因為我們現在出國的人數太多了我們原有的第一第二航廈這個量能負擔超載所以造成這個不堪系統的不堪使用那第三航廈部分是不是這個我們的相關的工程進度能請董事長說明一下什麼時候可以完成\n279108\t305989\t第三航廈目前我們今年的下半年有一個第一個里程碑就是在下半年的9月10月左右我們的北登基郎廳要開始啟用接下來我們在南登基郎廳跟航廈的部分是在115年的年底之前希望能夠完成116年開始做試營運的動作那相關的還有一個PMS就是我們里克運輸系統會配合主體航廈完成的時間這些都按照原來既定的時間在趕工當中\n307611\t320665\t我想這個也是包含立法院還有很多國人的期待希望我們整個淘擠的運作能夠正常然後相關的安全性的考量的承受度都能夠做一個最有效的檢討\n333260\t360441\t我想部長跟署長也都很關切我們這個臺灣的一個觀光政策但是呢我現在本行要提出來就是我們在2019年觀光署提出一個2030年的一個臺灣觀光政策的白皮書那距離現在有一段時間但是呢我們現在看到過去我們訂定的一個2025年的一個臺灣來臺的旅客人數設定是1600萬人次但是很遺憾去年只有750\n362544\t376063\t85萬 那今年預估是1000萬但是呢 根據我們拜祕書看起來比我們的那個保守值的1246萬還少了 那我想這部分的落差 這個部長跟署長我們要怎麼樣來加強\n378058\t399876\t跟委員報告這個白皮書是在疫情之前2019年把它完成的最後在2020年發表那這個是一個算是學術跟產業界的綜合那我們本來就是滾動式的檢討所以我們在2023年也就是我們國防署成立的時候我們就再檢討了一次\n400596\t415738\t那麼在這個我們這個520的時候我們在就是去年的5月30號在行政院有做一個修正做一個報告所以這個報告基本上這個白皮書的部分已經做滾動式的檢討是\n418020\t432005\t我們目前的部分就像部長講的我們還是以千萬來台這樣子一個標準在努力我們希望能夠合理這部分的產生因為我們前陣子委員會也有到屏東來考察\n432585\t459048\t那特別我想部長這個我們也一直在路上一直在討論整個這個整個重大交通的建設甚至觀光產業的一個整個協助的部分我想一定要從軟硬體全面來做檢討甚至我們在很多的一個觀光的這個誘因策略上面是不是有不一樣的想法我想這部分值得我們所有的產官學界大家共同來努力但是現在另外就是美國這個關稅政策\n459868\t484614\t以後造成這個很多的一個產業的衝擊那我想觀光業可能我們這個業者也出了一彈那真的這部分部長這邊有什麼看法報告委員目前的衝擊到底有多大我想還沒有人估得出來那但是業者如果到時候受到衝擊需要協助的部分觀光署現在就會開始做準備如果真的有遇到很大的衝擊那業者需要幫忙我們一定會幫忙\n485274\t506289\t那委員也在提醒所以這個部分我們就先來預作準備那不過我覺得衝擊到底多大這還需要一段時間的觀察那我們現在就會開始密切觀察它到底影響有多大因為目前為止稅率到底多少還沒有任何一個國家知道大家都還在變動當中那到底對經濟的影響有多大也還不曉得我們會密切來觀察這件事\n507245\t529098\t這次也要謝謝部長跟署長我想針對整個屏東縣的觀光我們大概到這個今年底大概有一些的策略尤其這個交通部我們搭配了我們的國家公園署那搭配屏東縣政府我們也預定了很多的不一樣的一個活動的一個項目當然也是希望我們所有的國內外的遊客都能夠到屏東來\n529878\t552882\t但是就是一樣這個我要提出這個論調就是說活動很好像這次清明年叫做臺灣祭人很多但是我覺得不能只靠這樣的一個活動的行銷怎麼樣去強迫我們整個這個觀光的一個亮點甚至這個在業者他們需要的一些配套上面怎麼樣給他們挹注的一個力道\n553382\t580328\t我想這保齡最清楚啦 是是他們有很多的想法但是苦於得不到我們關愛的眼神 是是這保齡是不是我們可以再來強化一下跟所有的旅館業者民宿業者的一個合作會 這個部分的合作我們會繼續來努力我們也跟他們都有聯繫好那最後一張我們看一下我們這個墾丁南灣這個保齡這樣有漂亮嗎 這個陽傘有漂亮嗎現在比過去好看好看啊 好看那我想這個也是我們在觀光署在我們在跟國家公園\n580948\t601618\t管理處這邊合作的一個把這個南灣海灘把它美化的一個畫面這樣的一個跨部會的合作也是我們期待的那我也會再邀請我們相關的單位未來針對怎樣的一個觀光的一個策略的部分做有效的一個檢討希望我們部裡面也全力支持那歡迎大家到美麗的墾丁來玩謝謝\n","txt":"謝謝主席 有請我們陳部長跟韓市長請部長跟韓市長委員好 部長好 市長好\n那我想前陣子我們一直看到這個在我們高屏外海有很多艘的一個貨輪甚至是權益輪在那邊滯留那最近也發現有一艘坦尚尼亞的一個貨輪還有一艘柯麥隆的一個貨輪在我們仿山的海嵐區已經滯留大概半年的時間那不曉得我們交通部有沒有掌握相關的一個狀況\n報告委員 交通部都有掌握相關的狀況而且我們同時跟這個海巡單位也都有聯繫那尤其是我們擔心的這個海纜的問題我們跟中華電信也都有所聯繫那您在提醒的這個船我們已經有在關注了確實這半年裡面它的這個巡擊的狀況有點奇怪有點詭異那我們隨時都在關注\n部長我想這個不是一個海上交通的問題是很可能是國安的問題是那尤其我想這個我們這個很密集一個海南區域這族人到底有什麼企圖我們都不知道但是滯留半年這個真的就有詭異的現象出現那過去我想包含我們部裡面還有我們相關的單位我想我已經在委員會也提過很多次對\n務必要全面去清查尤其我們這個高屏沿海這一帶這個停泊的那個這個我們戰略的位置要還有甚至這個一些重要的一些商人的進出我想不能讓這樣子一個狀況發生尤其我們這個整個這個海嵐的安全的必要性那我們有沒有可能做強制一個驅離的動作\n我們現在應該跟海巡那邊都有聯繫也有拜託海巡那邊有沒有做驅離的廣播其實應該也都有做驅離的廣播但是目前為止你沒有看到他做什麼違法的行徑所以他在那邊的過程當中我們就是用監控的方法我們也請中華電信隨時在看著自己的海欄如果他有接近或者是造成破壞馬上要讓我們知道\n對 不然除了這個問題之外我還是要提醒因為過去去年我們颱風風太極的時候好幾艘就被對 全部都飄到我們這個高屏沿岸這也造成很大的一個損害所以我想這個怎麼樣再這樣做一個有效的管制安全的控管我們交通部必須要有對策\n我們針對這個如果颱風要接近的時候我們會做一個管制是20海里還是12海里12海里以內不准他們靠近會把他們驅離到距離遠一點那這個部分我們會拜託海巡協助好 謝謝那我想剛剛我們好幾位委員有特別提到這個陶磯的問題那尤其這個這個我們國人到出國的頻率非常非常的高\n那淘機又是我們的門面但是目前看起來去年我們的淘機的地勤事故大概平均每個月就有一件那甚至我們每次到委員會這個淘氣楊董事長很辛苦的這個常常也是被委員這個質詢的一個對象那針對這樣一個電線走火行李系統故障甚至停電這些問題董事長到底我們淘機有沒有做怎樣怎麼樣一個內部的檢討\n是 表列的這幾件的停經事件事實上 不管我個人在內都有參與我們同仁的這個檢討那這些設備因為第一航廈它是在68年啟用到現在所以有些設備的這個巡檢跟汰換的這個時間我們現在已經開始做提前做設備的汰換的這個動作另外每一個事件的發生我們一定會找到它真正發生的原因地點在哪裡有哪些改善的方法\n那我們現在找到的幾個方法第一個就是我們提前做這個癱瘓巡檢第二個就是我們自己本身員工的部分要加強訓練還有維護廠商的部分那這些每一個事件整個過程當中我們會追根究柢到事件確實有所改善因為它影響的不是只有電力系統它會包括到我們的行李輸送系統等等都在內所以每一個事件我們都會做記錄那未來是希望這樣的一個頻率會減少甚至不會再發生\n對當然也有可能因為我們現在出國的人數太多了我們原有的第一第二航廈這個量能負擔超載所以造成這個不堪系統的不堪使用那第三航廈部分是不是這個我們的相關的工程進度能請董事長說明一下什麼時候可以完成\n第三航廈目前我們今年的下半年有一個第一個里程碑就是在下半年的9月10月左右我們的北登基郎廳要開始啟用接下來我們在南登基郎廳跟航廈的部分是在115年的年底之前希望能夠完成116年開始做試營運的動作那相關的還有一個PMS就是我們里克運輸系統會配合主體航廈完成的時間這些都按照原來既定的時間在趕工當中\n我想這個也是包含立法院還有很多國人的期待希望我們整個淘擠的運作能夠正常然後相關的安全性的考量的承受度都能夠做一個最有效的檢討\n我想部長跟署長也都很關切我們這個臺灣的一個觀光政策但是呢我現在本行要提出來就是我們在2019年觀光署提出一個2030年的一個臺灣觀光政策的白皮書那距離現在有一段時間但是呢我們現在看到過去我們訂定的一個2025年的一個臺灣來臺的旅客人數設定是1600萬人次但是很遺憾去年只有750\n85萬 那今年預估是1000萬但是呢 根據我們拜祕書看起來比我們的那個保守值的1246萬還少了 那我想這部分的落差 這個部長跟署長我們要怎麼樣來加強\n跟委員報告這個白皮書是在疫情之前2019年把它完成的最後在2020年發表那這個是一個算是學術跟產業界的綜合那我們本來就是滾動式的檢討所以我們在2023年也就是我們國防署成立的時候我們就再檢討了一次\n那麼在這個我們這個520的時候我們在就是去年的5月30號在行政院有做一個修正做一個報告所以這個報告基本上這個白皮書的部分已經做滾動式的檢討是\n我們目前的部分就像部長講的我們還是以千萬來台這樣子一個標準在努力我們希望能夠合理這部分的產生因為我們前陣子委員會也有到屏東來考察\n那特別我想部長這個我們也一直在路上一直在討論整個這個整個重大交通的建設甚至觀光產業的一個整個協助的部分我想一定要從軟硬體全面來做檢討甚至我們在很多的一個觀光的這個誘因策略上面是不是有不一樣的想法我想這部分值得我們所有的產官學界大家共同來努力但是現在另外就是美國這個關稅政策\n以後造成這個很多的一個產業的衝擊那我想觀光業可能我們這個業者也出了一彈那真的這部分部長這邊有什麼看法報告委員目前的衝擊到底有多大我想還沒有人估得出來那但是業者如果到時候受到衝擊需要協助的部分觀光署現在就會開始做準備如果真的有遇到很大的衝擊那業者需要幫忙我們一定會幫忙\n那委員也在提醒所以這個部分我們就先來預作準備那不過我覺得衝擊到底多大這還需要一段時間的觀察那我們現在就會開始密切觀察它到底影響有多大因為目前為止稅率到底多少還沒有任何一個國家知道大家都還在變動當中那到底對經濟的影響有多大也還不曉得我們會密切來觀察這件事\n這次也要謝謝部長跟署長我想針對整個屏東縣的觀光我們大概到這個今年底大概有一些的策略尤其這個交通部我們搭配了我們的國家公園署那搭配屏東縣政府我們也預定了很多的不一樣的一個活動的一個項目當然也是希望我們所有的國內外的遊客都能夠到屏東來\n但是就是一樣這個我要提出這個論調就是說活動很好像這次清明年叫做臺灣祭人很多但是我覺得不能只靠這樣的一個活動的行銷怎麼樣去強迫我們整個這個觀光的一個亮點甚至這個在業者他們需要的一些配套上面怎麼樣給他們挹注的一個力道\n我想這保齡最清楚啦 是是他們有很多的想法但是苦於得不到我們關愛的眼神 是是這保齡是不是我們可以再來強化一下跟所有的旅館業者民宿業者的一個合作會 這個部分的合作我們會繼續來努力我們也跟他們都有聯繫好那最後一張我們看一下我們這個墾丁南灣這個保齡這樣有漂亮嗎 這個陽傘有漂亮嗎現在比過去好看好看啊 好看那我想這個也是我們在觀光署在我們在跟國家公園\n管理處這邊合作的一個把這個南灣海灘把它美化的一個畫面這樣的一個跨部會的合作也是我們期待的那我也會再邀請我們相關的單位未來針對怎樣的一個觀光的一個策略的部分做有效的一個檢討希望我們部裡面也全力支持那歡迎大家到美麗的墾丁來玩謝謝\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:03.637 --> 00:16.665\n謝謝主席有請我們陳部長跟韓市長請部長跟韓市長委員好部長好市長好\n\n00:17.233 --> 00:41.288\n那我想前陣子我們一直看到這個在我們高屏外海有很多艘的一個貨輪甚至是權益輪在那邊滯留那最近也發現有一艘坦尚尼亞的一個貨輪還有一艘柯麥隆的一個貨輪在我們仿山的海嵐區已經滯留大概半年的時間那不曉得我們交通部有沒有掌握相關的一個狀況\n\n00:42.448 --> 01:02.893\n報告委員交通部都有掌握相關的狀況而且我們同時跟這個海巡單位也都有聯繫那尤其是我們擔心的這個海纜的問題我們跟中華電信也都有所聯繫那您在提醒的這個船我們已經有在關注了確實這半年裡面它的這個巡擊的狀況有點奇怪有點詭異那我們隨時都在關注\n\n01:03.693 --> 01:25.445\n部長我想這個不是一個海上交通的問題是很可能是國安的問題是那尤其我想這個我們這個很密集一個海南區域這族人到底有什麼企圖我們都不知道但是滯留半年這個真的就有詭異的現象出現那過去我想包含我們部裡面還有我們相關的單位我想我已經在委員會也提過很多次對\n\n01:26.045 --> 01:45.595\n務必要全面去清查尤其我們這個高屏沿海這一帶這個停泊的那個這個我們戰略的位置要還有甚至這個一些重要的一些商人的進出我想不能讓這樣子一個狀況發生尤其我們這個整個這個海嵐的安全的必要性那我們有沒有可能做強制一個驅離的動作\n\n01:46.616 --> 02:11.577\n我們現在應該跟海巡那邊都有聯繫也有拜託海巡那邊有沒有做驅離的廣播其實應該也都有做驅離的廣播但是目前為止你沒有看到他做什麼違法的行徑所以他在那邊的過程當中我們就是用監控的方法我們也請中華電信隨時在看著自己的海欄如果他有接近或者是造成破壞馬上要讓我們知道\n\n02:12.550 --> 02:31.525\n對不然除了這個問題之外我還是要提醒因為過去去年我們颱風風太極的時候好幾艘就被對全部都飄到我們這個高屏沿岸這也造成很大的一個損害所以我想這個怎麼樣再這樣做一個有效的管制安全的控管我們交通部必須要有對策\n\n02:32.005 --> 02:56.255\n我們針對這個如果颱風要接近的時候我們會做一個管制是20海里還是12海里12海里以內不准他們靠近會把他們驅離到距離遠一點那這個部分我們會拜託海巡協助好謝謝那我想剛剛我們好幾位委員有特別提到這個陶磯的問題那尤其這個這個我們國人到出國的頻率非常非常的高\n\n02:56.895 --> 03:24.530\n那淘機又是我們的門面但是目前看起來去年我們的淘機的地勤事故大概平均每個月就有一件那甚至我們每次到委員會這個淘氣楊董事長很辛苦的這個常常也是被委員這個質詢的一個對象那針對這樣一個電線走火行李系統故障甚至停電這些問題董事長到底我們淘機有沒有做怎樣怎麼樣一個內部的檢討\n\n03:26.744 --> 03:53.819\n是表列的這幾件的停經事件事實上不管我個人在內都有參與我們同仁的這個檢討那這些設備因為第一航廈它是在68年啟用到現在所以有些設備的這個巡檢跟汰換的這個時間我們現在已經開始做提前做設備的汰換的這個動作另外每一個事件的發生我們一定會找到它真正發生的原因地點在哪裡有哪些改善的方法\n\n03:54.739 --> 04:20.710\n那我們現在找到的幾個方法第一個就是我們提前做這個癱瘓巡檢第二個就是我們自己本身員工的部分要加強訓練還有維護廠商的部分那這些每一個事件整個過程當中我們會追根究柢到事件確實有所改善因為它影響的不是只有電力系統它會包括到我們的行李輸送系統等等都在內所以每一個事件我們都會做記錄那未來是希望這樣的一個頻率會減少甚至不會再發生\n\n04:21.450 --> 04:37.859\n對當然也有可能因為我們現在出國的人數太多了我們原有的第一第二航廈這個量能負擔超載所以造成這個不堪系統的不堪使用那第三航廈部分是不是這個我們的相關的工程進度能請董事長說明一下什麼時候可以完成\n\n04:39.108 --> 05:05.989\n第三航廈目前我們今年的下半年有一個第一個里程碑就是在下半年的9月10月左右我們的北登基郎廳要開始啟用接下來我們在南登基郎廳跟航廈的部分是在115年的年底之前希望能夠完成116年開始做試營運的動作那相關的還有一個PMS就是我們里克運輸系統會配合主體航廈完成的時間這些都按照原來既定的時間在趕工當中\n\n05:07.611 --> 05:20.665\n我想這個也是包含立法院還有很多國人的期待希望我們整個淘擠的運作能夠正常然後相關的安全性的考量的承受度都能夠做一個最有效的檢討\n\n05:33.260 --> 06:00.441\n我想部長跟署長也都很關切我們這個臺灣的一個觀光政策但是呢我現在本行要提出來就是我們在2019年觀光署提出一個2030年的一個臺灣觀光政策的白皮書那距離現在有一段時間但是呢我們現在看到過去我們訂定的一個2025年的一個臺灣來臺的旅客人數設定是1600萬人次但是很遺憾去年只有750\n\n06:02.544 --> 06:16.063\n85萬那今年預估是1000萬但是呢根據我們拜祕書看起來比我們的那個保守值的1246萬還少了那我想這部分的落差這個部長跟署長我們要怎麼樣來加強\n\n06:18.058 --> 06:39.876\n跟委員報告這個白皮書是在疫情之前2019年把它完成的最後在2020年發表那這個是一個算是學術跟產業界的綜合那我們本來就是滾動式的檢討所以我們在2023年也就是我們國防署成立的時候我們就再檢討了一次\n\n06:40.596 --> 06:55.738\n那麼在這個我們這個520的時候我們在就是去年的5月30號在行政院有做一個修正做一個報告所以這個報告基本上這個白皮書的部分已經做滾動式的檢討是\n\n06:58.020 --> 07:12.005\n我們目前的部分就像部長講的我們還是以千萬來台這樣子一個標準在努力我們希望能夠合理這部分的產生因為我們前陣子委員會也有到屏東來考察\n\n07:12.585 --> 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