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00:00:52,962\n部長跟諸位那針對這一次的美國對等關稅那當然對台灣課32%那現在有很多的討論包括我們跟美國之間是不是走到零關稅或者是我們擴大對美國採購能源的相關項目來緩和我們對美國的貿易順差但是我覺得這個都是比較長遠的事情因為談判現在才剛開始\n\n3\n00:00:54,503 --> 00:01:01,995\n但是在談判的這個過程中部長你覺得有可能爭取到在談判期間讓這個32%的這一個關稅的一個一個啟動時間讓他暫緩嗎\n\n4\n00:01:09,620 --> 00:01:25,716\n這一點有沒有信心爭取到這個是我們的期許啦我們的期許嘛對不對但是這個決定權在美國所以我們當然要去爭取所以我就擔心了我就擔心了說如果萬一在4月9號前我們沒有爭取到這一個關稅32%的啟動\n\n5\n00:01:28,759 --> 00:01:43,465\n那現階段馬上台灣的台廠就要面對一個問題就是說我的我要出口到美國的我可能現在正在專櫃我可能現在正在海上我們回去的時候過去這個關稅如果課的話應該是由在美國的那一方要負責這個32%\n\n6\n00:01:51,488 --> 00:02:01,199\n但是他現在就會說哇這個32%下去我不合他抓的給我們台廠公要不然延後出貨我延後給你拿或是我抓不好的\n\n7\n00:02:03,194 --> 00:02:27,956\n所以這會馬上面對一個問題這個台廠就是說我這裡的廢水斷掉了那你也知道我們事實上台灣如果做代工為主的一些產業的話他這裡代工的東西又涉及到了所謂有智慧財產權有IP的一個限制我們同樣的這些貨除了出到這個訂單下訂單的國家要轉售出去還會受到IP的限制\n\n8\n00:02:28,817 --> 00:02:57,942\n所以這個會有雙重的一個打擊所以我要具體的請教部長說我們要幫這裡的企業就是要讓主席賭到的總控所以如果他們在跟美國的廠商在談判32%如果沒辦法順利的時候政府可以做怎樣的協助來我想要請教部長報告委員我想這個現在已經過了12點12點過後以後就適用這個32%的稅率但是12點之前出貨的一個禮拜前出貨的\n\n9\n00:02:59,534 --> 00:03:10,648\n五月二十七號到美國他打十趴啦一個拜請出席都叫官來說論所以一個拜請出席的意思是說為什麼要處理?是說告美國?還是我們準賽處理就算了?\n\n10\n00:03:15,053 --> 00:03:22,359\n5月27日那天就是說4月15日已經出發5月27日可以到美國的這都是早晚的稅率早早晚的稅率如果4月15日跟4月19日跟今天中午之前出的90%現在已經差不多12點了這個時候出發去美國的\n\n11\n00:03:33,899 --> 00:03:41,703\n要加30%所以因為這個情形所以我們很輕鬆已經收到美國那邊的通緝暫緩出貨很多廠商就這樣跟我反映這個部分造成金融頂頭的問題是我們都有準備要安裝給它紓困\n\n12\n00:03:59,452 --> 00:04:24,878\n要怎麼讓他可以就寢離瀉就寢的時候特別是中小銀行來說中小企業他要把我們的貸款把我們的中小企業的貸款我們都會給予一些重寬重塑重減的方式來協助他們市長所以你這說的很重要的就是說雨天不能說散\n\n13\n00:04:26,510 --> 00:04:38,393\n現在大家很擔心啦,我們現在真的是很擔心,就是第一類他們現在暫緩出貨,這些東西就囤在他們那裡,所以他們後面他們的生産所也會對那裡出問題喔,所以這個事情一旦拖久了,這個32%客在那邊又暫緩出貨,對他們的整個生產線,然後他們的資金調動,整個就卡住了\n\n14\n00:04:48,536 --> 00:05:12,081\n所以台廠會馬上面對的這都是一連串的一個問題所以第一類我們對於他們在於說這種短期的需要這個貸款需求的雨天不能收傘第二個部長你剛剛講的重塑重減這件事情要怎麼做一個落實然後第三個就是我們880億我們除了現在想像的到的農漁牧產品會受到首當其衝在未來的談判中農漁牧產品大概是受傷最嚴重的\n\n15\n00:05:17,642 --> 00:05:34,536\n第二個,就是這880億能不能具體用在協助廠商在這個時候給予他們更多利息的一個優惠讓他們一旦有獲利,因為卡掉了因為他們的倉儲成本,或者是他們的生產線不順的時候\n\n16\n00:05:36,597 --> 00:05:47,585\n這個時候我覺得我們經濟部應該都要下箱跟很多廠商愛做堂會愛做堂會大家要知道他們現在的狀況實際上要判斷起來到底我們台灣的企業有多少因為這個延後出貨因為這個32%目前他們的商品是吊車的我覺得這個都要趕快去了解\n\n17\n00:05:55,791 --> 00:06:09,647\n是報告委員我們現在的做法是這樣子我們園區管理局有66個園區裡面的廠商是數千家數萬家我們是透過園區管理局先了解區內的廠商的需求\n\n18\n00:06:10,828 --> 00:06:36,913\n第二個我們有開設這個callcenter這個馬上辦服務中心在我們中小這個中小企業署上面然後我們會啟動讓他們打電話來詢問他們的問題我們也啟動這個說如果需要的話請他我們一對一的來輔導他了解他到底他的問題是怎麼樣子那該紓困的紓困該輔導的輔導\n\n19\n00:06:39,033 --> 00:07:07,008\n我想我們這一次啟動的除了快速的去了解問題然後我們希望能夠對症下藥好部長那你剛剛講到的就是說我們可能會針對現在國內62個我們的產業園區這是經濟部管轄的產業園區但是部長也許你也不要忘了台灣有很多隱形冠軍他們是在早期沒有進到園區裡面甚至包括說我們公布法通過的有很多這些農地工廠\n\n20\n00:07:07,908 --> 00:07:36,233\n實際上這些農地工廠除了土地跟他們的建物還沒有辦法合法之外他們的生產力是很高的他們都是台灣的隱形冠軍我認為雨天部應該收場的也應該都是包括他們喔報告委員我們不是只有針對我們自己的園區啦我們會跟各地方的工業會來舉辦這個座談或者是直接去拜訪就是有需要我們協助的我們是優先處理啦\n\n21\n00:07:37,093 --> 00:08:01,149\n對於那個產業的發展因為不是每一家公司都對美國的這一個關稅會有影響不是每一家都會去美國但是可能會有一個年代的擴散會有一些擴散的影響所以我們基本上是防止一波的往外擴散真正對需要協助的廠商可以快速的協助所以部長我是再次呼籲\n\n22\n00:08:02,210 --> 00:08:20,840\n因為我們現在要說零關稅現在要說擴大對美的一個採購這個真的是比較長遠的方向但是現階段就是要趕快扶持這些產業面對馬上的衝擊這件事很要緊所以我希望部隊包括我們主委真的要跟廠商有機會就叫他們包括他們有很多的同業工會就叫他們來講叫他們來協助建文化\n\n23\n00:08:30,385 --> 00:08:59,464\n從過去就一直進行啦不會進行啦還可以一直進行我相信這要加速這個危機讓他們先渡過你看一下事實上如果以台灣這個台股來說你看這幾天還不斷的在看起來還在跌啦事實上台灣的廠商在這一次32%的衝擊很大因為我們的產品很多都是在產業鏈的一環裡面既然在這個產業鏈的一環他就很少廠商可以說他完全置身事外\n\n24\n00:09:00,706 --> 00:09:04,071\n所以雖然教會是一個很細胞可能老師這種東西不一樣就是會調查好不好部長是好謝謝好\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n13015\t14558\t好謝謝主席那我們有請經濟部部長跟國發會我們劉主委好\n26966\t52962\t部長跟諸位那針對這一次的美國對等關稅那當然對台灣課32%那現在有很多的討論包括我們跟美國之間是不是走到零關稅或者是我們擴大對美國採購能源的相關項目來緩和我們對美國的貿易順差但是我覺得這個都是比較長遠的事情因為談判現在才剛開始\n54503\t61995\t但是在談判的這個過程中部長你覺得有可能爭取到在談判期間讓這個32%的這一個關稅的一個一個啟動時間讓他暫緩嗎\n69620\t85716\t這一點有沒有信心爭取到這個是我們的期許啦我們的期許嘛對不對但是這個決定權在美國所以我們當然要去爭取所以我就擔心了我就擔心了說如果萬一在4月9號前我們沒有爭取到這一個關稅32%的啟動\n88759\t103465\t那現階段馬上台灣的台廠就要面對一個問題就是說我的我要出口到美國的我可能現在正在專櫃我可能現在正在海上我們回去的時候過去這個關稅如果課的話應該是由在美國的那一方要負責這個32%\n111488\t121199\t但是他現在就會說 哇 這個32%下去 我不合他抓的 給我們台廠公 要不然延後出貨我延後給你拿 或是我抓不好的\n123194\t147956\t所以這會馬上面對一個問題這個台廠就是說我這裡的廢水斷掉了那你也知道我們事實上台灣如果做代工為主的一些產業的話他這裡代工的東西又涉及到了所謂有智慧財產權有IP的一個限制我們同樣的這些貨除了出到這個訂單下訂單的國家要轉售出去還會受到IP的限制\n148817\t177942\t所以這個會有雙重的一個打擊所以我要具體的請教部長說我們要幫這裡的企業就是要讓主席賭到的總控所以如果他們在跟美國的廠商在談判32%如果沒辦法順利的時候政府可以做怎樣的協助來我想要請教部長報告委員我想這個現在已經過了12點12點過後以後就適用這個32%的稅率但是12點之前出貨的一個禮拜前出貨的\n179534\t190648\t五月二十七號到美國他打十趴啦一個拜請出席都叫官來說論所以一個拜請出席的意思是說為什麼要處理?是說告美國?還是我們準賽處理就算了?\n195053\t202359\t5月27日那天就是說4月15日已經出發5月27日可以到美國的這都是早晚的稅率早早晚的稅率如果4月15日跟4月19日跟今天中午之前出的90%現在已經差不多12點了這個時候出發去美國的\n213899\t221703\t要加30%所以因為這個情形所以我們很輕鬆已經收到美國那邊的通緝暫緩出貨很多廠商就這樣跟我反映這個部分造成金融頂頭的問題是我們都有準備要安裝給它紓困\n239452\t264878\t要怎麼讓他可以就寢離瀉就寢的時候 特別是中小銀行來說中小企業 他要把我們的貸款 把我們的中小企業的貸款我們都會給予一些重寬 重塑 重減的方式來協助他們市長 所以你這說的很重要的就是說雨天不能說散\n266510\t278393\t現在大家很擔心啦,我們現在真的是很擔心,就是第一類他們現在暫緩出貨,這些東西就囤在他們那裡,所以他們後面他們的生産所也會對那裡出問題喔,所以這個事情一旦拖久了,這個32%客在那邊又暫緩出貨,對他們的整個生產線,然後他們的資金調動,整個就卡住了\n288536\t312081\t所以台廠會馬上面對的這都是一連串的一個問題所以第一類我們對於他們在於說這種短期的需要這個貸款需求的雨天不能收傘第二個部長你剛剛講的重塑重減這件事情要怎麼做一個落實然後第三個就是我們880億我們除了現在想像的到的農漁牧產品會受到首當其衝在未來的談判中農漁牧產品大概是受傷最嚴重的\n317642\t334536\t第二個,就是這880億能不能具體用在協助廠商在這個時候給予他們更多利息的一個優惠讓他們一旦有獲利,因為卡掉了因為他們的倉儲成本,或者是他們的生產線不順的時候\n336597\t347585\t這個時候我覺得我們經濟部應該都要下箱跟很多廠商 愛做堂會 愛做堂會 大家要知道他們現在的狀況 實際上要判斷起來 到底我們台灣的企業有多少因為這個延後出貨 因為這個32% 目前他們的商品是吊車的 我覺得這個都要趕快去了解\n355791\t369647\t是 報告委員我們現在的做法是這樣子我們園區管理局有66個園區裡面的廠商是數千家數萬家我們是透過園區管理局先了解區內的廠商的需求\n370828\t396913\t第二個我們有開設這個call center這個馬上辦服務中心在我們中小這個中小企業署上面然後我們會啟動讓他們打電話來詢問他們的問題我們也啟動這個說如果需要的話請他我們一對一的來輔導他了解他到底他的問題是怎麼樣子那該紓困的紓困該輔導的輔導\n399033\t427008\t我想我們這一次啟動的除了快速的去了解問題然後我們希望能夠對症下藥好 部長那你剛剛講到的就是說我們可能會針對現在國內62個我們的產業園區這是經濟部管轄的產業園區但是部長也許你也不要忘了台灣有很多隱形冠軍他們是在早期沒有進到園區裡面甚至包括說我們公布法通過的有很多這些農地工廠\n427908\t456233\t實際上這些農地工廠除了土地跟他們的建物還沒有辦法合法之外他們的生產力是很高的他們都是台灣的隱形冠軍我認為雨天部應該收場的也應該都是包括他們喔報告委員我們不是只有針對我們自己的園區啦我們會跟各地方的工業會來舉辦這個座談或者是直接去拜訪就是有需要我們協助的我們是優先處理啦\n457093\t481149\t對於那個產業的發展因為不是每一家公司都對美國的這一個關稅會有影響不是每一家都會去美國但是可能會有一個年代的擴散會有一些擴散的影響所以我們基本上是防止一波的往外擴散真正對需要協助的廠商可以快速的協助所以部長我是再次呼籲\n482210\t500840\t因為我們現在要說零關稅現在要說擴大對美的一個採購這個真的是比較長遠的方向但是現階段就是要趕快扶持這些產業面對馬上的衝擊這件事很要緊所以我希望部隊包括我們主委真的要跟廠商有機會就叫他們包括他們有很多的同業工會就叫他們來講叫他們來協助建文化\n510385\t539464\t從過去就一直進行啦不會進行啦還可以一直進行我相信這要加速這個危機讓他們先渡過你看一下事實上如果以台灣這個台股來說你看這幾天還不斷的在看起來還在跌啦事實上台灣的廠商在這一次32%的衝擊很大因為我們的產品很多都是在產業鏈的一環裡面既然在這個產業鏈的一環他就很少廠商可以說他完全置身事外\n540706\t544071\t所以雖然教會是一個很細胞可能老師這種東西不一樣就是會調查好不好 部長是好 謝謝好\n","txt":"好謝謝主席那我們有請經濟部部長跟國發會我們劉主委好\n部長跟諸位那針對這一次的美國對等關稅那當然對台灣課32%那現在有很多的討論包括我們跟美國之間是不是走到零關稅或者是我們擴大對美國採購能源的相關項目來緩和我們對美國的貿易順差但是我覺得這個都是比較長遠的事情因為談判現在才剛開始\n但是在談判的這個過程中部長你覺得有可能爭取到在談判期間讓這個32%的這一個關稅的一個一個啟動時間讓他暫緩嗎\n這一點有沒有信心爭取到這個是我們的期許啦我們的期許嘛對不對但是這個決定權在美國所以我們當然要去爭取所以我就擔心了我就擔心了說如果萬一在4月9號前我們沒有爭取到這一個關稅32%的啟動\n那現階段馬上台灣的台廠就要面對一個問題就是說我的我要出口到美國的我可能現在正在專櫃我可能現在正在海上我們回去的時候過去這個關稅如果課的話應該是由在美國的那一方要負責這個32%\n但是他現在就會說 哇 這個32%下去 我不合他抓的 給我們台廠公 要不然延後出貨我延後給你拿 或是我抓不好的\n所以這會馬上面對一個問題這個台廠就是說我這裡的廢水斷掉了那你也知道我們事實上台灣如果做代工為主的一些產業的話他這裡代工的東西又涉及到了所謂有智慧財產權有IP的一個限制我們同樣的這些貨除了出到這個訂單下訂單的國家要轉售出去還會受到IP的限制\n所以這個會有雙重的一個打擊所以我要具體的請教部長說我們要幫這裡的企業就是要讓主席賭到的總控所以如果他們在跟美國的廠商在談判32%如果沒辦法順利的時候政府可以做怎樣的協助來我想要請教部長報告委員我想這個現在已經過了12點12點過後以後就適用這個32%的稅率但是12點之前出貨的一個禮拜前出貨的\n五月二十七號到美國他打十趴啦一個拜請出席都叫官來說論所以一個拜請出席的意思是說為什麼要處理?是說告美國?還是我們準賽處理就算了?\n5月27日那天就是說4月15日已經出發5月27日可以到美國的這都是早晚的稅率早早晚的稅率如果4月15日跟4月19日跟今天中午之前出的90%現在已經差不多12點了這個時候出發去美國的\n要加30%所以因為這個情形所以我們很輕鬆已經收到美國那邊的通緝暫緩出貨很多廠商就這樣跟我反映這個部分造成金融頂頭的問題是我們都有準備要安裝給它紓困\n要怎麼讓他可以就寢離瀉就寢的時候 特別是中小銀行來說中小企業 他要把我們的貸款 把我們的中小企業的貸款我們都會給予一些重寬 重塑 重減的方式來協助他們市長 所以你這說的很重要的就是說雨天不能說散\n現在大家很擔心啦,我們現在真的是很擔心,就是第一類他們現在暫緩出貨,這些東西就囤在他們那裡,所以他們後面他們的生産所也會對那裡出問題喔,所以這個事情一旦拖久了,這個32%客在那邊又暫緩出貨,對他們的整個生產線,然後他們的資金調動,整個就卡住了\n所以台廠會馬上面對的這都是一連串的一個問題所以第一類我們對於他們在於說這種短期的需要這個貸款需求的雨天不能收傘第二個部長你剛剛講的重塑重減這件事情要怎麼做一個落實然後第三個就是我們880億我們除了現在想像的到的農漁牧產品會受到首當其衝在未來的談判中農漁牧產品大概是受傷最嚴重的\n第二個,就是這880億能不能具體用在協助廠商在這個時候給予他們更多利息的一個優惠讓他們一旦有獲利,因為卡掉了因為他們的倉儲成本,或者是他們的生產線不順的時候\n這個時候我覺得我們經濟部應該都要下箱跟很多廠商 愛做堂會 愛做堂會 大家要知道他們現在的狀況 實際上要判斷起來 到底我們台灣的企業有多少因為這個延後出貨 因為這個32% 目前他們的商品是吊車的 我覺得這個都要趕快去了解\n是 報告委員我們現在的做法是這樣子我們園區管理局有66個園區裡面的廠商是數千家數萬家我們是透過園區管理局先了解區內的廠商的需求\n第二個我們有開設這個call center這個馬上辦服務中心在我們中小這個中小企業署上面然後我們會啟動讓他們打電話來詢問他們的問題我們也啟動這個說如果需要的話請他我們一對一的來輔導他了解他到底他的問題是怎麼樣子那該紓困的紓困該輔導的輔導\n我想我們這一次啟動的除了快速的去了解問題然後我們希望能夠對症下藥好 部長那你剛剛講到的就是說我們可能會針對現在國內62個我們的產業園區這是經濟部管轄的產業園區但是部長也許你也不要忘了台灣有很多隱形冠軍他們是在早期沒有進到園區裡面甚至包括說我們公布法通過的有很多這些農地工廠\n實際上這些農地工廠除了土地跟他們的建物還沒有辦法合法之外他們的生產力是很高的他們都是台灣的隱形冠軍我認為雨天部應該收場的也應該都是包括他們喔報告委員我們不是只有針對我們自己的園區啦我們會跟各地方的工業會來舉辦這個座談或者是直接去拜訪就是有需要我們協助的我們是優先處理啦\n對於那個產業的發展因為不是每一家公司都對美國的這一個關稅會有影響不是每一家都會去美國但是可能會有一個年代的擴散會有一些擴散的影響所以我們基本上是防止一波的往外擴散真正對需要協助的廠商可以快速的協助所以部長我是再次呼籲\n因為我們現在要說零關稅現在要說擴大對美的一個採購這個真的是比較長遠的方向但是現階段就是要趕快扶持這些產業面對馬上的衝擊這件事很要緊所以我希望部隊包括我們主委真的要跟廠商有機會就叫他們包括他們有很多的同業工會就叫他們來講叫他們來協助建文化\n從過去就一直進行啦不會進行啦還可以一直進行我相信這要加速這個危機讓他們先渡過你看一下事實上如果以台灣這個台股來說你看這幾天還不斷的在看起來還在跌啦事實上台灣的廠商在這一次32%的衝擊很大因為我們的產品很多都是在產業鏈的一環裡面既然在這個產業鏈的一環他就很少廠商可以說他完全置身事外\n所以雖然教會是一個很細胞可能老師這種東西不一樣就是會調查好不好 部長是好 謝謝好\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:13.015 --> 00:14.558\n好謝謝主席那我們有請經濟部部長跟國發會我們劉主委好\n\n00:26.966 --> 00:52.962\n部長跟諸位那針對這一次的美國對等關稅那當然對台灣課32%那現在有很多的討論包括我們跟美國之間是不是走到零關稅或者是我們擴大對美國採購能源的相關項目來緩和我們對美國的貿易順差但是我覺得這個都是比較長遠的事情因為談判現在才剛開始\n\n00:54.503 --> 01:01.995\n但是在談判的這個過程中部長你覺得有可能爭取到在談判期間讓這個32%的這一個關稅的一個一個啟動時間讓他暫緩嗎\n\n01:09.620 --> 01:25.716\n這一點有沒有信心爭取到這個是我們的期許啦我們的期許嘛對不對但是這個決定權在美國所以我們當然要去爭取所以我就擔心了我就擔心了說如果萬一在4月9號前我們沒有爭取到這一個關稅32%的啟動\n\n01:28.759 --> 01:43.465\n那現階段馬上台灣的台廠就要面對一個問題就是說我的我要出口到美國的我可能現在正在專櫃我可能現在正在海上我們回去的時候過去這個關稅如果課的話應該是由在美國的那一方要負責這個32%\n\n01:51.488 --> 02:01.199\n但是他現在就會說哇這個32%下去我不合他抓的給我們台廠公要不然延後出貨我延後給你拿或是我抓不好的\n\n02:03.194 --> 02:27.956\n所以這會馬上面對一個問題這個台廠就是說我這裡的廢水斷掉了那你也知道我們事實上台灣如果做代工為主的一些產業的話他這裡代工的東西又涉及到了所謂有智慧財產權有IP的一個限制我們同樣的這些貨除了出到這個訂單下訂單的國家要轉售出去還會受到IP的限制\n\n02:28.817 --> 02:57.942\n所以這個會有雙重的一個打擊所以我要具體的請教部長說我們要幫這裡的企業就是要讓主席賭到的總控所以如果他們在跟美國的廠商在談判32%如果沒辦法順利的時候政府可以做怎樣的協助來我想要請教部長報告委員我想這個現在已經過了12點12點過後以後就適用這個32%的稅率但是12點之前出貨的一個禮拜前出貨的\n\n02:59.534 --> 03:10.648\n五月二十七號到美國他打十趴啦一個拜請出席都叫官來說論所以一個拜請出席的意思是說為什麼要處理?是說告美國?還是我們準賽處理就算了?\n\n03:15.053 --> 03:22.359\n5月27日那天就是說4月15日已經出發5月27日可以到美國的這都是早晚的稅率早早晚的稅率如果4月15日跟4月19日跟今天中午之前出的90%現在已經差不多12點了這個時候出發去美國的\n\n03:33.899 --> 03:41.703\n要加30%所以因為這個情形所以我們很輕鬆已經收到美國那邊的通緝暫緩出貨很多廠商就這樣跟我反映這個部分造成金融頂頭的問題是我們都有準備要安裝給它紓困\n\n03:59.452 --> 04:24.878\n要怎麼讓他可以就寢離瀉就寢的時候特別是中小銀行來說中小企業他要把我們的貸款把我們的中小企業的貸款我們都會給予一些重寬重塑重減的方式來協助他們市長所以你這說的很重要的就是說雨天不能說散\n\n04:26.510 --> 04:38.393\n現在大家很擔心啦,我們現在真的是很擔心,就是第一類他們現在暫緩出貨,這些東西就囤在他們那裡,所以他們後面他們的生産所也會對那裡出問題喔,所以這個事情一旦拖久了,這個32%客在那邊又暫緩出貨,對他們的整個生產線,然後他們的資金調動,整個就卡住了\n\n04:48.536 --> 05:12.081\n所以台廠會馬上面對的這都是一連串的一個問題所以第一類我們對於他們在於說這種短期的需要這個貸款需求的雨天不能收傘第二個部長你剛剛講的重塑重減這件事情要怎麼做一個落實然後第三個就是我們880億我們除了現在想像的到的農漁牧產品會受到首當其衝在未來的談判中農漁牧產品大概是受傷最嚴重的\n\n05:17.642 --> 05:34.536\n第二個,就是這880億能不能具體用在協助廠商在這個時候給予他們更多利息的一個優惠讓他們一旦有獲利,因為卡掉了因為他們的倉儲成本,或者是他們的生產線不順的時候\n\n05:36.597 --> 05:47.585\n這個時候我覺得我們經濟部應該都要下箱跟很多廠商愛做堂會愛做堂會大家要知道他們現在的狀況實際上要判斷起來到底我們台灣的企業有多少因為這個延後出貨因為這個32%目前他們的商品是吊車的我覺得這個都要趕快去了解\n\n05:55.791 --> 06:09.647\n是報告委員我們現在的做法是這樣子我們園區管理局有66個園區裡面的廠商是數千家數萬家我們是透過園區管理局先了解區內的廠商的需求\n\n06:10.828 --> 06:36.913\n第二個我們有開設這個callcenter這個馬上辦服務中心在我們中小這個中小企業署上面然後我們會啟動讓他們打電話來詢問他們的問題我們也啟動這個說如果需要的話請他我們一對一的來輔導他了解他到底他的問題是怎麼樣子那該紓困的紓困該輔導的輔導\n\n06:39.033 --> 07:07.008\n我想我們這一次啟動的除了快速的去了解問題然後我們希望能夠對症下藥好部長那你剛剛講到的就是說我們可能會針對現在國內62個我們的產業園區這是經濟部管轄的產業園區但是部長也許你也不要忘了台灣有很多隱形冠軍他們是在早期沒有進到園區裡面甚至包括說我們公布法通過的有很多這些農地工廠\n\n07:07.908 --> 07:36.233\n實際上這些農地工廠除了土地跟他們的建物還沒有辦法合法之外他們的生產力是很高的他們都是台灣的隱形冠軍我認為雨天部應該收場的也應該都是包括他們喔報告委員我們不是只有針對我們自己的園區啦我們會跟各地方的工業會來舉辦這個座談或者是直接去拜訪就是有需要我們協助的我們是優先處理啦\n\n07:37.093 --> 08:01.149\n對於那個產業的發展因為不是每一家公司都對美國的這一個關稅會有影響不是每一家都會去美國但是可能會有一個年代的擴散會有一些擴散的影響所以我們基本上是防止一波的往外擴散真正對需要協助的廠商可以快速的協助所以部長我是再次呼籲\n\n08:02.210 --> 08:20.840\n因為我們現在要說零關稅現在要說擴大對美的一個採購這個真的是比較長遠的方向但是現階段就是要趕快扶持這些產業面對馬上的衝擊這件事很要緊所以我希望部隊包括我們主委真的要跟廠商有機會就叫他們包括他們有很多的同業工會就叫他們來講叫他們來協助建文化\n\n08:30.385 --> 08:59.464\n從過去就一直進行啦不會進行啦還可以一直進行我相信這要加速這個危機讓他們先渡過你看一下事實上如果以台灣這個台股來說你看這幾天還不斷的在看起來還在跌啦事實上台灣的廠商在這一次32%的衝擊很大因為我們的產品很多都是在產業鏈的一環裡面既然在這個產業鏈的一環他就很少廠商可以說他完全置身事外\n\n09:00.706 --> 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