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00:02:47,072\n金融支持包含這個融資利率的減碼還有輸出保費的優惠中小微型企業的貸款加碼這個是應該要提高的要降低行政成本的當然也是要提高的但是提升產業競爭力開拓多元市場我們現在講的是這個月今年我們馬上面到了這個關稅的變局是數十年來從來沒有這樣的大變局我想請教一下部長\n\n9\n00:02:48,188 --> 00:03:09,401\n你會不會認為說這一些700億的預算它的優先次序是不是要做一些調整我特別還要提到你們的安定就業這個部分因為它排在最後一項第六項但是其實它的影響是最最最最重大的所以想請部長回應一下報導委員我們第一個第一個優先的動作就是紓困\n\n10\n00:03:11,061 --> 00:03:35,819\n疏解這些中小微企業他面臨到的財務上面的危機包括他被欠單包括他被postfund這些訂單包括他可能因為這樣子這個業者希望他能夠到5月以後再去出貨明確的台灣的這個稅率這個稅率確定了以後才會讓他出貨我想這些都是\n\n11\n00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:58,850\n造成產業上面在財務的調度上面可能會出了一點問題那我們第一個就是紓困特別是小跟微的企業那大型的企業經過我們盤過的幾個大型的企業包括電子相關的這些產業他們可能做的是EMS可能做的是OEM對他們來講我們都確認過\n\n12\n00:04:00,891 --> 00:04:19,240\n他們的影響不大所以我們現在800億的部分700億的部分是完全針對中小微企業第一個先以紓困為主各種方法所以我們希望能夠在所有的方法裡面能夠重塑重減\n\n13\n00:04:21,254 --> 00:04:41,736\n來幫助他們部長這很重要因為我看到上面的這些資源的配置來看的話提升競爭力研發轉型這種比較偏向這種國發會的長期的機會是200億所以說我們在有限的資源下面怎麼樣的調度剛才部長說紓困優先同時經濟部也是作為整個這個方案的主導的部門\n\n14\n00:04:42,316 --> 00:05:10,193\n所以我是希望說調整一下看怎麼樣可以針對你剛剛講到的中小型企業最直接的幫助你剛剛提到的紓困方案它的資源配置不應該是最少反而是應該是最多的但是我們剛剛看到700億光是有300億就是在長期的促進產業的發展我覺得這個要做一些調整是報告委員當我們在這個一般來講我們看的是這個廠商它其實是非常順利在運作\n\n15\n00:05:11,354 --> 00:05:39,033\n那基本上我們會讓他調適一些訂單因為畢竟美國不是佔他全部大概只有20幾個person好那就是你剛剛提到的開拓市場的部分那想再請教一下開拓市場的部分我們現在能夠某方面美國是不可能被取代的某方面能夠替代的這個市場還是以歐洲國家為主是不是我們大概有三個方向就是說第一個是歐洲的市場大概這些部分都是工具區跟這個構建的部分\n\n16\n00:05:39,713 --> 00:05:58,509\n歐洲市場再來就是印度再來就是這個土耳其好這三個市場裡面特別是歐洲市場它的消費能力是比較接近美國的更加要放重心在上面那最後這一個部分我是請經濟部要回去研擬一下因為這一次的關稅它是針對\n\n17\n00:05:59,730 --> 00:06:26,508\n不是只有非盟友他是針對盟友是美國的盟友也包含在內所以包含日韓台灣歐盟全部都在他的這個裡面都被課徵高關稅所以未來會不會影響非紅的這個供應鏈這個要怎麼樣應對我希望這是我不知道經濟部門有沒有先想好那我也認為說張偉未來也可以派類似這樣子的會議我現在講的非紅供應鏈已經受到威脅了\n\n18\n00:06:27,268 --> 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