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00:03:08,963\n進口值為36.9億美元為美國第八大的海外市場在這樣一個情形之下無論是現在的10%或未來的32%或者是未來的情況不知道談判的結果不知道\n\n8\n00:03:10,970 --> 00:03:22,248\n这样的一个情形之下这边提到的美国的产品苏台的产品黄豆玉米小麦及牛肉所以这些进来了之后\n\n9\n00:03:23,791 --> 00:03:50,225\n會更便宜是不是這樣不是如果是從美國進到台灣的話是以台灣的關稅為主不是那會降低啊那個32%那是我們輸出的產品這兩個是不一樣的我知道那進來呢對進來的部分現在目前我們台灣的關稅並沒有改變我們現在台灣目前的關稅這邊沒有改變那以現在目前他會不會讓我們改變\n\n10\n00:03:52,801 --> 00:04:19,266\n那後續就是要看後面雙方的一個談判那談判的部分我剛才特別強調就是在談判的過程中我知道我只是提醒這個農業部這個部分寫是這樣寫大家因為很多的鄉親看了以為是這樣就沒有問題這個也是要有列為因應的措施好不好\n\n11\n00:04:20,406 --> 00:04:46,010\n另外就是说出口方面出口方面这个里面也提到我们输出到美国的比例也是相当高所以这样的一个像花卉水产品等多种的农产品销售不出去假设了以32%的话就当然销售不出去了\n\n12\n00:04:47,518 --> 00:05:10,079\n會有影響然後這個我們這邊就會會產生怎麼樣的因素各方面都要讓農第一個業者農民農民知道這個是一個要做比較詳細的一個準備了何況現在又有90天的\n\n13\n00:05:11,409 --> 00:05:35,311\n我跟委員報告就是我們在延了32%的關稅之下其實我們已經啟動了從昨天開始就啟動了所有的主要衝擊產業的一個座談那這個座談不會因為它延了90天我們就停止我們還是會持續的去跟我們的業者了解我們業者對這樣的一個關稅的調整他們的一個想法跟意見來做後續我們政策的一個參考好\n\n14\n00:05:37,855 --> 00:05:42,677\n就是要去加強無論是農業部或是經濟部都是一樣當然就農產品來講如果是32%相關我們的蝴蝶蘭、紅茶葉、毛豆、蘆蝸魚、骨頭刀、鱸魚\n\n15\n00:05:56,103 --> 00:06:19,560\n當然這個就農業部主要認為會影響比較多的是茶葉、吳郭蟻、鬼頭刀、如蟻這些這個都是需要去加強去因應的我們會持續尤其是現在又多了一個90天所以當然很重要的就是昨天跟國務部長講的談判\n\n16\n00:06:24,052 --> 00:06:37,777\n談判怎麼樣把自己的籌碼善用昨天我的建議未必正確但是我認為的籌碼所以這個部分也善用另外就是說時間的關係\n\n17\n00:06:44,376 --> 00:07:12,393\n這個國發會昨天的報告裡面這個經濟部昨天也有報告了這個提出880億元的這個880億元的這個支持方案這裡面其中經濟部是700億700億農業部是180億而經濟部裡面第一個跟農業部一樣都是寫金融支持第一個當然這個還有其他的部分\n\n18\n00:07:13,697 --> 00:07:28,889\n那因為今天的報告我也看到了這個財政部的報告了他們也有這個相關這些金融的支持所以這個部分你們也有互相溝通協調不要去怎麼樣能夠去這個是他們\n\n19\n00:07:32,506 --> 00:07:59,545\n原來就可以做不需要花另外的錢的部分可以做更好的處理然後這裡面這個881也不算很多錢怎麼樣善用我主要的意思是說怎麼樣善用尤其是除了以經濟部來講除了中小企業業者之外\n\n20\n00:08:00,592 --> 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小麦及牛肉所以这些进来了之后\n203791\t230225\t會更便宜是不是這樣不是如果是從美國進到台灣的話是以台灣的關稅為主不是那會降低啊那個32%那是我們輸出的產品這兩個是不一樣的我知道那進來呢對進來的部分現在目前我們台灣的關稅並沒有改變我們現在台灣目前的關稅這邊沒有改變那以現在目前他會不會讓我們改變\n232801\t259266\t那後續就是要看後面雙方的一個談判那談判的部分我剛才特別強調就是在談判的過程中我知道我只是提醒這個農業部這個部分寫是這樣寫大家因為很多的鄉親看了以為是這樣就沒有問題這個也是要有列為因應的措施好不好\n260406\t286010\t另外就是说出口方面出口方面这个里面也提到我们输出到美国的比例也是相当高所以这样的一个像花卉水产品等多种的农产品销售不出去假设了以32%的话就当然销售不出去了\n287518\t310079\t會有影響然後這個我們這邊就會會產生怎麼樣的因素各方面都要讓農第一個業者農民農民知道這個是一個要做比較詳細的一個準備了何況現在又有90天的\n311409\t335311\t我跟委員報告就是我們在延了32%的關稅之下其實我們已經啟動了從昨天開始就啟動了所有的主要衝擊產業的一個座談那這個座談不會因為它延了90天我們就停止我們還是會持續的去跟我們的業者了解我們業者對這樣的一個關稅的調整他們的一個想法跟意見來做後續我們政策的一個參考好\n337855\t342677\t就是要去加強 無論是農業部或是經濟部都是一樣當然就農產品來講如果是32%相關我們的蝴蝶蘭、紅茶葉、毛豆、蘆蝸魚、骨頭刀、鱸魚\n356103\t379560\t當然這個就農業部主要認為會影響比較多的是茶葉、吳郭蟻、鬼頭刀、如蟻這些這個都是需要去加強去因應的我們會持續尤其是現在又多了一個90天所以當然很重要的就是昨天跟國務部長講的談判\n384052\t397777\t談判怎麼樣把自己的籌碼善用昨天我的建議未必正確但是我認為的籌碼所以這個部分也善用另外就是說時間的關係\n404376\t432393\t這個國發會昨天的報告裡面這個經濟部昨天也有報告了這個提出880億元的這個880億元的這個支持方案這裡面其中經濟部是700億700億農業部是180億而經濟部裡面第一個跟農業部一樣都是寫金融支持第一個當然這個還有其他的部分\n433697\t448889\t那因為今天的報告我也看到了這個財政部的報告了他們也有這個相關這些金融的支持所以這個部分你們也有互相溝通協調不要去怎麼樣能夠去這個是他們\n452506\t479545\t原來就可以做不需要花另外的錢的部分可以做更好的處理然後這裡面這個881也不算很多錢怎麼樣善用我主要的意思是說怎麼樣善用尤其是除了以經濟部來講除了中小企業業者之外\n480592\t503739\t安定就業勞工的部分勞工的部分怎麼樣去支持以農業的話就農民的部分到後來最受害的就是勞工還有農民所以這個有限的880億能夠善用好不好好謝謝謝謝\n","txt":"主席有請郭部長還有陳部長來請兩位部長兩位部長大家辛苦了今天早上一早就聽到這個訊息美國總統川普真的是多變多變\n所以暫時不提高對等關稅90天也就是三個月請教一下我們郭部長這裡面提到的75個已聯繫美國討論貿易相關議題且沒有對美國報復的國家對等關稅稅率會先維持在10%我們有沒有在這個75個國家裡面\n我們是在75%的國家裡面所以呢未來先維持14%是什麼時候開始從4月9號開始就是昨天的中午開始的這一階段所以本來是32%我們其實是4月5號以後出口到這個美國的然後在5月27號以前到達美國的這一些貨就是10%\n然後我們本來是昨天中午12點以後出口到美國的要打32%現在被豁免這些都是10%所以是10%這個在花蓮就有兩萬斤如魚被通知暫緩出貨\n所以這個部分這個不只是這個業者啦因為有90天的一個期間嘛所以經濟部還有這個我是舉這個例子啦舉這個例子所以經濟部跟那個農業部啊還有其他相關部會就是要去通知業者那個因為不見得知道有這個90天啦一般的一般的那個這個業者所以未必知道又必能夠\n當然就是能夠協助他們繼續出貨 因為本來被通知不出貨了我們看這個農業部的報告裡面特別提到這個我國有22.3%的進口農產品來自美國\n進口值為36.9億美元為美國第八大的海外市場在這樣一個情形之下無論是現在的10%或未來的32%或者是未來的情況不知道談判的結果不知道\n这样的一个情形之下这边提到的美国的产品苏台的产品黄豆 玉米 小麦及牛肉所以这些进来了之后\n會更便宜是不是這樣不是如果是從美國進到台灣的話是以台灣的關稅為主不是那會降低啊那個32%那是我們輸出的產品這兩個是不一樣的我知道那進來呢對進來的部分現在目前我們台灣的關稅並沒有改變我們現在台灣目前的關稅這邊沒有改變那以現在目前他會不會讓我們改變\n那後續就是要看後面雙方的一個談判那談判的部分我剛才特別強調就是在談判的過程中我知道我只是提醒這個農業部這個部分寫是這樣寫大家因為很多的鄉親看了以為是這樣就沒有問題這個也是要有列為因應的措施好不好\n另外就是说出口方面出口方面这个里面也提到我们输出到美国的比例也是相当高所以这样的一个像花卉水产品等多种的农产品销售不出去假设了以32%的话就当然销售不出去了\n會有影響然後這個我們這邊就會會產生怎麼樣的因素各方面都要讓農第一個業者農民農民知道這個是一個要做比較詳細的一個準備了何況現在又有90天的\n我跟委員報告就是我們在延了32%的關稅之下其實我們已經啟動了從昨天開始就啟動了所有的主要衝擊產業的一個座談那這個座談不會因為它延了90天我們就停止我們還是會持續的去跟我們的業者了解我們業者對這樣的一個關稅的調整他們的一個想法跟意見來做後續我們政策的一個參考好\n就是要去加強 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Kacaw委員：兩位部長好，大家辛苦了。今天一早大家都聽到這個訊息，美國總統川普真的是多變，暫時不提高對等關稅90天，也就是三個月，他提到有75個已聯繫美國討論貿易相關議題，且沒有對美國報復的國家，對等關稅稅率會先維持在10%。請問部長，我們有沒有在這75個國家裡面？"],["郭部長智輝：我們是在75個國家裡面。"],["鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：所以未來先維持10%，請問從什麼時候開始？"],["郭部長智輝：從4月9號開始，就是這一階段從昨天中午開始。"],["鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：本來是32%……"],["郭部長智輝：其實4月5號以後出口到美國的，在5月27號以前到達美國的這一些貨，就是10%；然後本來昨天中午12點以後出口到美國的要打32%關稅，現在被豁免，這些都是10%。"],["鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：所以是10%，好。目前在花蓮有2萬斤鱸魚被通知暫緩出貨，其實不只是這個業者，我是舉這個例子，但因為有90天的期間，所以經濟部跟農業部，還有其他相關部會就是要去通知業者，因為他們不見得知道有這個90天，一般的業者未必知道，務必要能夠讓他們知道，當然，就是協助他們能夠繼續出貨，因為本來被通知不出貨了。","我們看農業部的報告裡面特別提到，我國有22.3%的進口農產品來自美國，進口值為36.9億美元，為美國第八大的海外市場。無論是現在的10%，或未來的32%，或者是未來的情況，不知道，談判的結果不知道。在這樣的情形之下，這邊提到美國輸臺的產品──黃豆、玉米、小麥及牛肉等，這些進來了之後會更便宜，是不是這樣？"],["陳部長駿季：不是，如果是從美國進到臺灣的話，是以臺灣的關稅為主。"],["鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：它是要……"],["陳部長駿季：不是……"],["鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：未來會降低啊！"],["陳部長駿季：它那個32%……"],["鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：我們關稅現在比較高嘛。"],["陳部長駿季：沒有，那是我們輸出的產品，這兩個是不一樣的。"],["鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：我知道，那進來呢？我們現在是課多少？"],["陳部長駿季：進來的部分，目前我們臺灣的關稅並沒有改變，以現在……"],["鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：它會不會讓我們改變？"],["陳部長駿季：後續就要……"],["鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：川普會不會說你要談判的時候……"],["陳部長駿季：後續就是要看雙方的談判。"],["鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：對，談判的時候會……"],["陳部長駿季：談判的部分我剛才特別強調，就是在談判的過程中……"],["鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：我知道，我只是提醒農業部，這個部分寫是這樣寫，因為很多的鄉親看了會以為是這樣就沒有問題，這個也是要列為因應措施，好不好？另外，出口方面，這裡面也提到我們輸出到美國的比例也是相當高，像花卉、水產品等多種農產品銷售不出去，假設以32%來說的話，當然就銷售不出去了，會有影響，然後我們這邊就會產生什麼樣的因素，各方面都要讓業者、農民知道，這個要做比較詳細的準備，何況現在又有90天的時間。"],["陳部長駿季：我跟委員報告，在原來32%的關稅之下，其實我們從昨天開始就啟動跟所有主要衝擊產業的座談，這個座談不會因為他延了90天就停止，我們還是會持續跟業者了解，他們對這樣的關稅調整的想法跟意見，作為後續我們政策的參考。"],["鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：好，這個要去加強，無論是農業部或經濟部都是一樣。就農產品來講，如果是32%，我們的蝴蝶蘭、茶葉、毛豆、吳郭魚、鬼頭刀、鱸魚等，農業部認為會影響比較多的是茶葉、吳郭魚、鬼頭刀、鱸魚這些，這個都是需要去加強、去因應的，因為……"],["陳部長駿季：會，我們會持續。"],["鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：對，尤其是現在又多了90天。"],["陳部長駿季：是。"],["鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：當然，很重要的就是昨天跟郭部長講的談判，怎麼樣能夠善用自己的籌碼。昨天我的建議未必正確，但是是我認為的籌碼啦，這個部分也希望能夠善用。","另外，時間的關係，國發會昨天的報告裡面提到，要提出880億元的支持方案，經濟部昨天也有報告，其中這裡面經濟部是700億，農業部是180億，而經濟部報告裡面的第一點跟農業部一樣，都是寫「金融支持」，當然，還有其他的部分。今天我也看到財政部的報告，他們也有相關這些金融的支持，所以這個部分你們有互相溝通協調，怎麼樣能夠去……這個是他們原來就可以做，不需要花另外的錢，就可以做更好的處理，然後這裡面的880億也不算很多錢，怎麼樣能夠善用，我主要的意思是怎麼樣能夠善用。譬如以經濟部來講，除了中小企業業者之外，安定就業勞工的部分怎麼樣能夠去支持？以農業來看的話，就是農民的部分，不要到後來受害最深的就是勞工還有農民，所以這個有限的880億要能夠善用，好不好？"],["郭部長智輝：好。"],["鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：好，謝謝。"],["主席：謝謝鄭天財委員。","下一個請張嘉郡委員質詢。"]],"agenda":{"page_end":270,"meet_id":"委員會-11-3-19-8","speakers":["蔡易餘","邱議瑩","林岱樺","陳亭妃","張啓楷","楊瓊瓔","鄭正鈐","鄭天財Sra Kacaw","張嘉郡","陳超明","賴瑞隆","呂玉玲","鍾佳濱","羅美玲","李坤城","許宇甄","葉元之","邱志偉","徐欣瑩","謝衣鳯"],"page_start":211,"meetingDate":["2025-04-10"],"gazette_id":"1143601","agenda_lcidc_ids":["1143601_00006"],"meet_name":"立法院第11屆第3會期經濟委員會第8次全體委員會議紀錄","content":"邀請經濟部部長、農業部部長及財政部首長就「因應美國關稅政策以維持我國農漁畜業及關鍵產\n業競爭力之協助措施」進行報告，並備質詢","agenda_id":"1143601_00005"}}}