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00:00:58,039\n將關稅劃減為零那不曉得兩位有沒有看過總統的這篇文章都有看過嘛那裡面有提到就是說希望把關稅這個劃減為零他說這個台灣目前的這個對美國的這個平均關稅是百分之六希望在這個互惠的基礎上面進一步降至零那藉由排除自由公平貿易的最後的障礙希望促進雙邊的這個擴大貿易與投資的規模\n\n4\n00:01:02,324 --> 00:01:10,562\n總統這樣子講那是不是說我們本來有一個台美21世紀的貿易倡議那要直接跨一大步了就要到這一個FTA的自由貿易協定了\n\n5\n00:01:12,705 --> 00:01:29,829\n好謝謝委員那我想那個因為台美貿易倡議他基本上在解決的是法規的之間的連結的問題那我們現在透過因為法規連結他可能形成的障礙實際上也是川普政府現在對等關稅的衡量基礎所以我們會利用台美倡議所達成的這些共識來作為我們去化解我們對等關稅的稅率的這個的基礎\n\n6\n00:01:35,470 --> 00:01:57,537\n但是這是去年通過的第一階段那是還沒有關稅啊那現在有關稅了那要做的一定是不一樣嘛那我的意思是說總統竟然有這樣子講那是不是有什麼新的策略要出來因為他直接有講希望能夠關稅能夠化解到最後到零啊那是一大步耶那化解到零那所以我才問說那是不是就是要這個跟自由貿易協定是有相關的\n\n7\n00:01:58,649 --> 00:02:07,692\n我想自由貿易協定可以是有包含降關稅也可以包含只有純粹法規連結那現在因為賴總統所指示的就是希望從我們現在台美之間各自台灣輸美的這個有76%美國輸台有62%是零關稅我們就是以這個基礎往上去談看哪一些產品可以逐步去納入我們可以\n\n8\n00:02:20,477 --> 00:02:38,005\n調降關稅的一個範圍那目的就是還是要去降低我們的對等關稅現在適用的一些品項那所以我想如何從台美21世紀倡議跨越到是不是可以走向台美FTA我想這個是我們要努力的方向因為總統有這樣子說嘛那所以我是說那\n\n9\n00:02:39,005 --> 00:02:50,673\n因為這個又是在川普宣布對等關稅之後雖然現在是從32%降成10%但是總統他有這個說法那是不是說我們跟美國在談判的時候\n\n10\n00:02:51,747 --> 00:03:17,864\n有什麼樣新的比如說新的措施或是說進一步的想要達成什麼樣的協議來讓總統他所提到的說希望能夠把關稅降到零那這也是能夠降低就是說這個美方認為說我們關稅好像課得太高其實其實沒有啦他是用這個貿易的逆差來做的那我所以再請教這個副總代表那如何落實總統所提到的說這個排除自由貿易的這個最後的障礙\n\n11\n00:03:20,024 --> 00:03:37,830\n我想排除貿易障礙呢基本上我們也要從美國現在的需求來討論那美國的需求他已經很明確說了要去跟他談對等關稅的下降不外乎要從三個目標第一個目標就是現在的關稅如果過高的我們要去評估如何下降第二個就是他們長期點名出來的在他們的\n\n12\n00:03:40,191 --> 00:04:05,387\nNTE就是他們的這個非關稅貿易障礙報告裡面長期關鍵的議題那我們要加以處理以及第三個即便你有前面的關稅跟非關稅措施但是他必須要能夠反映在降低貿易逆差上這三個目標都是缺一不可所以我想我們就是取得賴總統的授權從零關稅的基礎開始談但是必須要能夠達成美方所期待的三個目標\n\n13\n00:04:06,007 --> 00:04:23,758\n那所以也是這一次我們打算去跟美國談的最主要的這個三個目標嗎這次會是我們努力的方向好那我再問一下這一個江次長好了那現在就是說要消除這一個剛有提到這個對美的這一個非關稅的貿易障礙那這部分的話經濟部要做什麼樣的處理\n\n14\n00:04:24,844 --> 00:04:52,211\n在經濟部的部分的話大概非關稅貿易障礙目前美方比較關心的是我們的智慧財產權的落實的情形所以我們已經積極的在做相關的檢討就只有這部分而已嗎涉及經濟部的部分那財政部的部分咧據我們了解目前USTR提出來對財政部的項目是屬於明久的課稅的問題\n\n15\n00:04:54,176 --> 00:05:03,578\n這只有米酒客稅的問題嗎?沒有其他的問題嗎?當然我們違規轉運也是美方非常關切的部分那它不是還有點名一些產業嗎?產業的部分這不是在經濟部,是在農業部嗎?我簡單補充一下,當然它還有提到的像跟這些我記得它有提到七項嘛\n\n16\n00:05:18,564 --> 00:05:28,368\n至少提到七項嘛對還有提到服務業還有提到外人投資的限制然後當然還有提到農業的一些我們長期的這些關稅配合的議題那這邊要怎麼做處理勒\n\n17\n00:05:31,181 --> 00:05:53,635\n我想我們現在就是由這個鄭麗君副院長所領軍的這個團隊那台美經貿工作小組一直在盤點這些議題然後當然我覺得最重要的是我們會尋求是兼顧國人的健康糧食安全這些目的之下那當然有一些非關稅貿易障礙議題他可能會涉及到國內法是否要修法這個也需要我們取得朝野的共識\n\n18\n00:05:54,335 --> 00:06:06,542\n所以我想我們必須要綜合的去通盤的檢討才能夠確定台灣在非關稅議題上面可以跟美方提出怎麼樣的一個解決方式好那我們現在這個談判的代表團何時要去美國\n\n19\n00:06:08,272 --> 00:06:23,904\n我想我們現在就是持續的在溝通那要確認美方他現在希望我們因為他的談判團隊我們也要確認成績那才可以來決定我們台灣怎麼樣的一個談判的一個組成因為現在有90天的這一個緩衝時間嘛那所以說等美國那邊確定之後我方就會過去就對了對我們現在持續的這個在規劃當中好謝謝謝謝三位謝謝主席\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n1050\t12200\t好 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