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00:00:56,185\n市長好市長今天台灣時間的凌晨美國對中國呢祭出了125%的這個出口關稅這也意味著未來中國洗產地的這行為會更加的嚴重那是不是也意味著台灣成為中國洗產地的這個跳板的狀況會更加的嚴重那雖然是說我們立法院在2019年的時候已經\n\n3\n00:00:57,666 --> 00:01:11,492\n三讀通過了這個貿易法的修正案那如果說廠商標示不實產地使用不實的貿易貿易證明文件等違法行為我們的罰款是由新台幣30萬大幅提升到300萬可是我們所看到的就是說其實這個貿易法修正案通過之後呢洗產地的這個狀況其實呢雖然稍稍改善可是還是發生了因為我們從報章的這個\n\n4\n00:01:24,537 --> 00:01:47,594\n媒體有發現就是說不管是漁業也好或者是說這個中國的監視器廠商的利用台灣做跳板等等這些都發生那再來未來可能會更加的嚴重尤其是這個125%的出口關稅現在已經正式實施了我想請問當然我有看到這個國貿署他有提供資料就是說\n\n5\n00:01:49,135 --> 00:02:17,634\n雖然說實施之後有稍稍減少稍微減少可是我是擔心的就是說這個出口關稅這個政策提高之後那台灣要如何因應我們香港的法律會不會想要來做加嚴這個部分我們有考慮過嘛因為目前剛剛我聽到郭部長所講的都是目前我們的這個目前所實施的這個政策那未來呢未來我們香港法律會不會來做加嚴\n\n6\n00:02:18,567 --> 00:02:34,083\n第一個非常感謝立法院的支持我們貿易法進行修正那這個財法如剛剛委員所說的我們會重演來做相關的查緝工作最嚴重的話還可以取消他的登記證就是現在法律就會這樣現在法律就是這麼做了嗎未來呢\n\n7\n00:02:36,005 --> 00:02:38,108\n未來會做滾動式的修正就對了現階段我們在這個時間點最重要要做的事情就是包括\n\n8\n00:02:52,388 --> 00:03:13,047\n這些產品的監視包括他從中國進來台灣甚至台灣輸美的部分這個我們貿易署跟財政部都有對接資料來去進行監測除此之外我們對於全國的所謂的進出口廠商或是生產廠商去進行宣導第三個部分我們希望\n\n9\n00:03:13,928 --> 00:03:31,754\n把我們過去所查緝出來的所謂的違規的這個名單把它列出來它是一個高風險的這個名單那我們從這幾個方面希望說來減少說因為請消或是違規轉運也就是委員所說的洗產地的問題\n\n10\n00:03:33,325 --> 00:03:56,179\nOK這部分的話我們應該還是會來做監控啦因為其實我們比較擔心是未來會有更多這種稀產地的這個事情會發生OK好那這個美國呢他這個高額關稅提出來之後其實我們也看到就是說行政單位也好或是賴總統也好其實在第一時間呢就已經定調了我們就是\n\n11\n00:03:56,639 --> 00:04:13,850\n不報復然後我們就需要來做談判以現在來看的話尤其是今天的一個大轉彎我們覺得我們的這個方向其實是正確的那再來我想請教的就是說現在我們有提出了881的這個支援方案嘛那當然也有很多人就說881到底夠不夠\n\n12\n00:04:16,932 --> 00:04:44,034\n到底夠不夠未來我們有會想要考慮來增加嗎可是還有一點就是說我們有看到就是副院長鄭麗君副院長有提到說其實這個880億的支援方案其實是屬於階段性的這個措施那我們也都知道說這個部分可能也跟美國在談判的時候可能要特別提出來因為像中美貿易戰的話美國針對的其實就是中國長期的惡意補貼這部分他認為這是不公平的一個\n\n13\n00:04:44,974 --> 00:05:07,335\n一個行為所以他針對這一點這所謂的補貼的這個方案其實他有很多的這個意見那當然台灣的881的支援方案其實它是階段性的這個這個措施這個部分的話我們在談判的時候是會不會就是說特別跟美方來強調這個部分其實是階段性的措施跟中國的這個長期惡意補貼方案是不一樣的我們會特別強調這一點嗎\n\n14\n00:05:08,940 --> 00:05:29,911\n第一個我們的政府他已經有詳細的規劃包括談判的小組他應該有一個他就有一個週盤的沙盤推演這是第一個第二個我們今天剛剛委員所提到了880億我剛剛也是在行政院會去報告參與這個事情那基本上左院長說\n\n15\n00:05:31,252 --> 00:05:45,006\n九大面向二十項措施基本上是不會改變的而政府可以馬上做的就要先行來做只要協助廠商不管是在經費不管是在行政支持金融支持全力以赴\n\n16\n00:05:45,669 --> 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未來我們有會想要考慮來增加嗎可是還有一點就是說我們有看到就是副院長鄭麗君副院長有提到說其實這個880億的支援方案其實是屬於階段性的這個措施那我們也都知道說這個部分可能也跟美國在談判的時候可能要特別提出來因為像中美貿易戰的話美國針對的其實就是中國長期的惡意補貼這部分他認為這是不公平的一個\n284974\t307335\t一個行為所以他針對這一點這所謂的補貼的這個方案其實他有很多的這個意見那當然台灣的881的支援方案其實它是階段性的這個這個措施這個部分的話我們在談判的時候是會不會就是說特別跟美方來強調這個部分其實是階段性的措施跟中國的這個長期惡意補貼方案是不一樣的我們會特別強調這一點嗎\n308940\t329911\t第一個我們的政府他已經有詳細的規劃包括談判的小組他應該有一個他就有一個週盤的沙盤推演這是第一個第二個我們今天剛剛委員所提到了880億我剛剛也是在行政院會去報告參與這個事情那基本上左院長說\n331252\t345006\t九大面向二十項措施基本上是不會改變的而政府可以馬上做的就要先行來做只要協助廠商不管是在經費不管是在行政支持金融支持全力以赴\n345669\t371437\t所以這個部分的話如果是說其實881可能就是現階段是這樣我們會是未來未來我們看這個局面的轉變也許我們也會加碼是這樣子的意思嗎我們會等待檢討也有可能只要可以協助了我們都盡量好謝謝因為時間的關係我想行政單位這段時間真的是辛苦了那我們也希望說這個危機很可能也就是台灣的轉機以上謝謝好謝謝委員\n","txt":"好 謝謝主席 有請經濟部 郭部長那個部長可能要趕到桃園 所以接下來是部長要趕到桃園 次長嗎因為早上有先同意部長那就有請代次長好 請次長代替\n市長好市長今天台灣時間的凌晨美國對中國呢祭出了125%的這個出口關稅這也意味著未來中國洗產地的這行為會更加的嚴重那是不是也意味著台灣成為中國洗產地的這個跳板的狀況會更加的嚴重那雖然是說我們立法院在2019年的時候已經\n三讀通過了這個貿易法的修正案那如果說廠商標示不實產地使用不實的貿易貿易證明文件等違法行為我們的罰款是由新台幣30萬大幅提升到300萬可是我們所看到的就是說其實這個貿易法修正案通過之後呢洗產地的這個狀況其實呢雖然稍稍改善可是還是發生了因為我們從報章的這個\n媒體有發現就是說不管是漁業也好或者是說這個中國的監視器廠商的利用台灣做跳板等等這些都發生那再來未來可能會更加的嚴重尤其是這個125%的出口關稅現在已經正式實施了我想請問當然我有看到這個國貿署他有提供資料就是說\n雖然說實施之後有稍稍減少稍微減少可是我是擔心的就是說這個出口關稅這個政策提高之後那台灣要如何因應我們香港的法律會不會想要來做加嚴這個部分我們有考慮過嘛因為目前剛剛我聽到郭部長所講的都是目前我們的這個目前所實施的這個政策那未來呢未來我們香港法律會不會來做加嚴\n第一個非常感謝立法院的支持我們貿易法進行修正那這個財法如剛剛委員所說的我們會重演來做相關的查緝工作最嚴重的話還可以取消他的登記證就是現在法律就會這樣現在法律就是這麼做了嗎未來呢\n未來會做滾動式的修正就對了現階段我們在這個時間點最重要要做的事情就是包括\n這些產品的監視包括他從中國進來台灣甚至台灣輸美的部分這個我們貿易署跟財政部都有對接資料來去進行監測除此之外我們對於全國的所謂的進出口廠商或是生產廠商去進行宣導第三個部分我們希望\n把我們過去所查緝出來的所謂的違規的這個名單把它列出來它是一個高風險的這個名單那我們從這幾個方面希望說來減少說因為請消或是違規轉運也就是委員所說的洗產地的問題\nOK這部分的話我們應該還是會來做監控啦因為其實我們比較擔心是未來會有更多這種稀產地的這個事情會發生OK好那這個美國呢他這個高額關稅提出來之後其實我們也看到就是說行政單位也好或是賴總統也好其實在第一時間呢就已經定調了我們就是\n不報復然後我們就需要來做談判以現在來看的話尤其是今天的一個大轉彎我們覺得我們的這個方向其實是正確的那再來我想請教的就是說現在我們有提出了881的這個支援方案嘛那當然也有很多人就說881到底夠不夠\n到底夠不夠 未來我們有會想要考慮來增加嗎可是還有一點就是說我們有看到就是副院長鄭麗君副院長有提到說其實這個880億的支援方案其實是屬於階段性的這個措施那我們也都知道說這個部分可能也跟美國在談判的時候可能要特別提出來因為像中美貿易戰的話美國針對的其實就是中國長期的惡意補貼這部分他認為這是不公平的一個\n一個行為所以他針對這一點這所謂的補貼的這個方案其實他有很多的這個意見那當然台灣的881的支援方案其實它是階段性的這個這個措施這個部分的話我們在談判的時候是會不會就是說特別跟美方來強調這個部分其實是階段性的措施跟中國的這個長期惡意補貼方案是不一樣的我們會特別強調這一點嗎\n第一個我們的政府他已經有詳細的規劃包括談判的小組他應該有一個他就有一個週盤的沙盤推演這是第一個第二個我們今天剛剛委員所提到了880億我剛剛也是在行政院會去報告參與這個事情那基本上左院長說\n九大面向二十項措施基本上是不會改變的而政府可以馬上做的就要先行來做只要協助廠商不管是在經費不管是在行政支持金融支持全力以赴\n所以這個部分的話如果是說其實881可能就是現階段是這樣我們會是未來未來我們看這個局面的轉變也許我們也會加碼是這樣子的意思嗎我們會等待檢討也有可能只要可以協助了我們都盡量好謝謝因為時間的關係我想行政單位這段時間真的是辛苦了那我們也希望說這個危機很可能也就是台灣的轉機以上謝謝好謝謝委員\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:01.292 --> 00:23.909\n好謝謝主席有請經濟部郭部長那個部長可能要趕到桃園所以接下來是部長要趕到桃園次長嗎因為早上有先同意部長那就有請代次長好請次長代替\n\n00:32.192 --> 00:56.185\n市長好市長今天台灣時間的凌晨美國對中國呢祭出了125%的這個出口關稅這也意味著未來中國洗產地的這行為會更加的嚴重那是不是也意味著台灣成為中國洗產地的這個跳板的狀況會更加的嚴重那雖然是說我們立法院在2019年的時候已經\n\n00:57.666 --> 01:11.492\n三讀通過了這個貿易法的修正案那如果說廠商標示不實產地使用不實的貿易貿易證明文件等違法行為我們的罰款是由新台幣30萬大幅提升到300萬可是我們所看到的就是說其實這個貿易法修正案通過之後呢洗產地的這個狀況其實呢雖然稍稍改善可是還是發生了因為我們從報章的這個\n\n01:24.537 --> 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