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00:01:22,350\n但是运动外交它不会只有比赛在我们行政院的运动部咨询小组结论之一也就有我们要争取参与国际组织增加台湾的国际影响力当时我们的选手咨询委员之一林玉婷也向我们行政院建议例如全机项目现在有成立新的国际组织\n\n5\n00:01:23,070 --> 00:01:45,587\n還有建議說我們台灣其實可以嘗試來去爭取國際的職務那這個我們行政單位當然要給予很大力的支持那在立法院我也有參與女子運動外交促進會所以我想不只是運動外交去年國體法修法的時候我們也把運動性評納入所以這可以說是我們未來體育部的\n\n6\n00:01:46,648 --> 00:02:13,874\n明定法定的業務現在國際上有一個團體叫IAWG這個署長應該比我更加熟悉國際女性與運動工作小組我想女子運動外交也是非常重要台灣我們有沒有機會來去爭取IAWG在這個高峰會在台灣來主辦委員我們就在已經在進行當中不過這個的確有難度但是我們畢竟台灣在女性運動這一塊也在亞洲算是走在前面那所以這一塊我們會積極來爭取\n\n7\n00:02:15,097 --> 00:02:19,102\n好我希望我們可以盡力來爭取甚至如果我們可以去爭取這個組織當中的幹部我想對台灣在國際上面我們的外交以及我們推動國內的運動性平我想都會是很大的進展希望體育署可以繼續來努力好不好\n\n8\n00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:51,009\n好那再來第二點就是運動文化今天的報告當中有看到運動文化不過是放在運動產業的架構之下這讓我也有一點擔心因為我想運動文化它不只是只有產業面向它其實要去\n\n9\n00:02:52,270 --> 00:03:15,104\n建構的是我們台灣的體育發展史所以我希望未來我們在規劃的時候因為你們的組織架構都還在研議當中還沒有完全定案嘛我希望未來我們不只是在架構上面組織上面人力上資源上我們在支持重新建構台灣的運動文化的時候不要只有產業的面向而要有文化自己的之土\n\n10\n00:03:15,944 --> 00:03:32,016\n我十秒鐘的回應第一個我們這個運動化目前架構在研議當中從基礎的盤點典藏等到價值運用一直到把它產業化甚至呢在長期我們對國家運動的博物館等等的一個可行性的評估目前都在陸陸續續的討論當中這一塊我會盡快來完成來向委員報告\n\n11\n00:03:35,598 --> 00:03:50,146\n對我就舉個例子剛剛講到運動博物館運動博物館如果可以振興產業當然很好但它也不只是為了產業而存在所以這個麻煩你們務必我希望運動文化我們要有它自己的主體性好謝謝署長署長請回接下來我請部長請部長貝茲勳謝謝\n\n12\n00:04:00,219 --> 00:04:04,682\n部長這個去年我們在這裡也討論很多就台北市幼兒園的狼屍案那在這個案件之後我們持續跟教育部來追蹤也跟國教署有很多的討論那目前在司法的部分毛姓狼屍二審判處28年那除了司法懲罰之外我們教育部更重要的工作是我們不能讓遺憾再次發生\n\n13\n00:04:24,874 --> 00:04:29,279\n務必下一次我們要來得及及時阻止所以說去年我們也提出來教育部在性平世界的調查跟處理程序有五項的改進措施在你們給我的資料裡面包含了我們要修正教保人員違法事件調查處理辦法\n\n14\n00:04:43,254 --> 00:05:03,877\n第二我們要製作違法事件常見問題第三在接獲事件的時候怎麼樣來通報檢討的流程第四我們要訂定給地方主管機關處理教保人員違法事件的檢核表第五我們要來修訂教保服務機構不適任人員的通報辦法\n\n15\n00:05:06,038 --> 00:05:14,006\n有幾項我知道已經完成了但有幾項還在進行當中請問部長或署長我們什麼時候可以全部來改進完成\n\n16\n00:05:15,194 --> 00:05:34,523\n4月底以前除了要法律要預告的部分其他所有行政的部分4月底以前全部會給委員完成4月底以前都會完成我們當時跟委員講第一季嘛我們會把它完成來是這個非常的重要因為呢這當中特別是涉及到關於相關事件的調查以及通報\n\n17\n00:05:37,344 --> 00:05:40,146\n我們要有一些精進例如說當時有討論到認定委員會裡面兒少的專家他究竟是不是必要要有記名再來能不能去匿名檢舉能不能立案再來當時有家長要調閱相關的調查報告\n\n18\n00:05:53,254 --> 00:05:57,695\n但是有原方不提供的問題然後甚至在這個個案當中他特別嚴重的是負責人跟加害人就親屬關係所以導致有包庇的問題在這個我們現在五個教育部的改進措施提出來之後會有什麼樣具體的改進改善能不能請署長具體說明\n\n19\n00:06:15,786 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00:09:08,696\n我非常同意委員的說法跟主張就是說我們應該把這一個防範提到前端而不是等發生以後才不傳應該是你要主動怎麼樣去緩緩或者我們許多的一些環境裡面怎麼樣去禁止這樣的一個偷拍的行為產生我想這一個部分我們來努力我們現在這個兒少性剝削的防治課程在校園裡面是怎麼樣在進行\n\n27\n00:09:12,881 --> 00:09:41,533\n我們確實如同委員所說的我們還是比較從不拍不傳這樣的方式在宣導的那沒有太多針對情境的部分那我想委員剛才說得很清楚我們目前其實在iWIN的機制裡面它其實已經蒐集了非常多真實的案例我們可能需要更多情境的一個說明讓孩子知道這樣的狀況可能在引誘你可能會有這樣的情況那我想會有更具體的案例來做一個宣導跟推廣讓小朋友做防範\n\n28\n00:09:42,386 --> 00:10:06,523\n在教材的內容上我想我們要趕快而且要加快不要說再等一年兩年要加快去跟上他現在會兒少他們真實很容易會面對到被性剝削的樣態內容上要跟上再來是在課程的形式上面因為我聽到很多在學校裡面實際上在進行的宣導常常會流於樣板\n\n29\n00:10:08,664 --> 00:10:15,927\n甚至是學生喊一個口號我們要兒少性剝削防治怎麼會是讓學生喊這樣的口號呢是讓他這個課程的形式要是確實可以讓我們的孩子們知道\n\n30\n00:10:24,691 --> 00:10:47,327\n有可能會有這樣子的危險而當你遇到的時候我們可以做什麼我想這個非常重要因為例如我剛剛講的防範偷拍我相信很多成年女性都不太知道要相關的那個知識那如果家庭教育沒有辦法及時做到我們在校園裡面的教育要趕快提供孩子必要的協助好不好好謝謝謝謝吳佩奕委員質詢\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n2443\t8208\t謝謝主席 我請體育署署長有請體育署署長備質詢 謝謝委員長署長好 我們運動部八月就要成立所以今天業務報告裡面我也看到很多關於未來運動部的規劃尤其有特別振奮的是其中在培育新興運動選手的部分也有關於我長期關注的滑板\n27523\t33228\t跟霹靂舞我們非常感謝也希望未來可以持續來支持不過有兩點我想要提出建議跟提醒第一點是我們去年其實在討論運動部的組織法修法的時候對於運動外交跟運動文化\n43536\t45837\t很多委員都有很多的討論也很期待但是在今天的報告當中我們沒有一個段落是專門在提出運動外交的規劃這讓我有一點擔憂了我們有提到品牌國際賽事\n59622\t82350\t但是运动外交它不会只有比赛在我们行政院的运动部咨询小组结论之一也就有我们要争取参与国际组织增加台湾的国际影响力当时我们的选手咨询委员之一林玉婷也向我们行政院建议例如全机项目现在有成立新的国际组织\n83070\t105587\t還有建議說我們台灣其實可以嘗試來去爭取國際的職務那這個我們行政單位當然要給予很大力的支持那在立法院我也有參與女子運動外交促進會所以我想不只是運動外交去年國體法修法的時候我們也把運動性評納入所以這可以說是我們未來體育部的\n106648\t133874\t明定 法定的業務現在國際上有一個團體叫IAWG這個署長應該比我更加熟悉國際女性與運動工作小組我想女子運動外交也是非常重要台灣我們有沒有機會來去爭取IAWG在這個高峰會在台灣來主辦委員我們就在已經在進行當中不過這個的確有難度但是我們畢竟台灣在女性運動這一塊也在亞洲算是走在前面那所以這一塊我們會積極來爭取\n135097\t139102\t好 我希望我們可以盡力來爭取甚至如果我們可以去爭取這個組織當中的幹部我想對台灣在國際上面我們的外交以及我們推動國內的運動性平我想都會是很大的進展希望體育署可以繼續來努力好不好\n153280\t171009\t好 那再來第二點就是運動文化今天的報告當中有看到運動文化不過是放在運動產業的架構之下這讓我也有一點擔心因為我想運動文化它不只是只有產業面向它其實要去\n172270\t195104\t建構的是我們台灣的體育發展史所以我希望未來我們在規劃的時候因為你們的組織架構都還在研議當中還沒有完全定案嘛我希望未來我們不只是在架構上面組織上面人力上資源上我們在支持重新建構台灣的運動文化的時候不要只有產業的面向而要有文化自己的之土\n195944\t212016\t我十秒鐘的回應第一個我們這個運動化目前架構在研議當中從基礎的盤點典藏等到價值運用一直到把它產業化甚至呢在長期我們對國家運動的博物館等等的一個可行性的評估目前都在陸陸續續的討論當中這一塊我會盡快來完成來向委員報告\n215598\t230146\t對 我就舉個例子剛剛講到運動博物館運動博物館如果可以振興產業當然很好但它也不只是為了產業而存在所以這個麻煩你們務必我希望運動文化我們要有它自己的主體性好 謝謝署長署長請回接下來我請部長請部長貝茲勳 謝謝\n240219\t244682\t部長這個去年我們在這裡也討論很多就台北市幼兒園的狼屍案那在這個案件之後我們持續跟教育部來追蹤也跟國教署有很多的討論那目前在司法的部分毛姓狼屍二審判處28年那除了司法懲罰之外我們教育部更重要的工作是我們不能讓遺憾再次發生\n264874\t269279\t務必下一次我們要來得及及時阻止所以說去年我們也提出來教育部在性平世界的調查跟處理程序有五項的改進措施在你們給我的資料裡面包含了我們要修正教保人員違法事件調查處理辦法\n283254\t303877\t第二 我們要製作違法事件常見問題第三 在接獲事件的時候怎麼樣來通報檢討的流程第四 我們要訂定給地方主管機關處理教保人員違法事件的檢核表第五 我們要來修訂教保服務機構不適任人員的通報辦法\n306038\t314006\t有幾項我知道已經完成了但有幾項還在進行當中請問部長或署長我們什麼時候可以全部來改進完成\n315194\t334523\t4月底以前除了要法律要預告的部分其他所有行政的部分4月底以前全部會給委員完成4月底以前都會完成我們當時跟委員講第一季嘛我們會把它完成來是 這個非常的重要因為呢這當中特別是涉及到關於相關事件的調查以及通報\n337344\t340146\t我們要有一些精進例如說當時有討論到認定委員會裡面兒少的專家他究竟是不是必要要有記名再來能不能去匿名檢舉能不能立案再來當時有家長要調閱相關的調查報告\n353254\t357695\t但是有原方不提供的問題然後甚至在這個個案當中他特別嚴重的是負責人跟加害人就親屬關係所以導致有包庇的問題在這個我們現在五個教育部的改進措施提出來之後會有什麼樣具體的改進改善能不能請署長具體說明\n375786\t387173\t剛剛委員所提到各個辦法中規範的包含人員類型的專業以及對認定的處理上不要有漏失還有在通報上不要發生二等輕人員有漏失的情況這些全部都進行\n391476\t394381\t未來如果是二等輕的話我們通報可以怎麼樣未來在通報上他在通報的責任會由地方政府可以直接處理可以跳過原方直接向地方政府通報並且要受理所以這個真的很重要\n406880\t422760\t所以我們希望教育部可以趕快完成並且後續要去追蹤地方政府要具體確實的來落實喔這個要請部長跟署長多多幫忙再來呢我們也很關心的就是我們性平教育去年的時候我們有在修訂的是我們的這個\n425525\t448002\t网数位的性别暴力的防治不过呢我看了一下我们113学年度我们的儿少拒绝儿少性剥削的辅导呢是不拍不传不留这大概是已经也蛮多年我们的这个宣导的教材了我要特别提醒部长的是去年发生了很重大的儿少那个性\n449315\t453960\t影像剝削的案件像黃子嬌的事件當中我們發現這一個創意私房裡面被害的學生有國中生他是被拍攝了上百部的影片那甚至有加害者是補習班的老師他是裝設了偷拍這樣的器材所以我想過去我們這個不拍不傳\n473358\t497629\t這個我們當時在要教導孩子要防範的觀念是說可能是不小心拍到的這些私密影像要提醒他們小心外流或是如果你看到了不要轉傳給別人但是我們現在發現社會上是有這樣子重大而且是組織性的犯罪事件我認為我們的宣導教材目前沒有跟上我們一定要讓孩子知道例如他要怎麼樣防範\n499190\t514441\t被偷拍例如當他遇到的是這種集團式的一而再再而三甚至有利誘或者是威脅他去拍攝這樣的影片的時候他可以怎麼做這個在我們目前的宣導教材裡面我認為是不足的部長我們是不是可以找專家學者來協助我們趕快把我們這個兒少性剝削防治的教材要跟上\n525219\t548696\t我非常同意委員的說法跟主張就是說我們應該把這一個防範提到前端而不是等發生以後才不傳應該是你要主動怎麼樣去緩緩或者我們許多的一些環境裡面怎麼樣去禁止這樣的一個偷拍的行為產生我想這一個部分我們來努力我們現在這個兒少性剝削的防治課程在校園裡面是怎麼樣在進行\n552881\t581533\t我們確實如同委員所說的我們還是比較從不拍不傳這樣的方式在宣導的那沒有太多針對情境的部分那我想委員剛才說得很清楚我們目前其實在iWIN的機制裡面它其實已經蒐集了非常多真實的案例我們可能需要更多情境的一個說明讓孩子知道這樣的狀況可能在引誘你可能會有這樣的情況那我想會有更具體的案例來做一個宣導跟推廣讓小朋友做防範\n582386\t606523\t在教材的內容上我想我們要趕快而且要加快不要說再等一年兩年要加快去跟上他現在會兒少他們真實很容易會面對到被性剝削的樣態內容上要跟上再來是在課程的形式上面因為我聽到很多在學校裡面實際上在進行的宣導常常會流於樣板\n608664\t615927\t甚至是學生喊一個口號我們要兒少性剝削防治怎麼會是讓學生喊這樣的口號呢是讓他這個課程的形式要是確實可以讓我們的孩子們知道\n624691\t647327\t有可能會有這樣子的危險而當你遇到的時候我們可以做什麼我想這個非常重要因為例如我剛剛講的防範偷拍我相信很多成年女性都不太知道要相關的那個知識那如果家庭教育沒有辦法及時做到我們在校園裡面的教育要趕快提供孩子必要的協助好不好好謝謝謝謝吳佩奕委員質詢\n","txt":"謝謝主席 我請體育署署長有請體育署署長備質詢 謝謝委員長署長好 我們運動部八月就要成立所以今天業務報告裡面我也看到很多關於未來運動部的規劃尤其有特別振奮的是其中在培育新興運動選手的部分也有關於我長期關注的滑板\n跟霹靂舞我們非常感謝也希望未來可以持續來支持不過有兩點我想要提出建議跟提醒第一點是我們去年其實在討論運動部的組織法修法的時候對於運動外交跟運動文化\n很多委員都有很多的討論也很期待但是在今天的報告當中我們沒有一個段落是專門在提出運動外交的規劃這讓我有一點擔憂了我們有提到品牌國際賽事\n但是运动外交它不会只有比赛在我们行政院的运动部咨询小组结论之一也就有我们要争取参与国际组织增加台湾的国际影响力当时我们的选手咨询委员之一林玉婷也向我们行政院建议例如全机项目现在有成立新的国际组织\n還有建議說我們台灣其實可以嘗試來去爭取國際的職務那這個我們行政單位當然要給予很大力的支持那在立法院我也有參與女子運動外交促進會所以我想不只是運動外交去年國體法修法的時候我們也把運動性評納入所以這可以說是我們未來體育部的\n明定 法定的業務現在國際上有一個團體叫IAWG這個署長應該比我更加熟悉國際女性與運動工作小組我想女子運動外交也是非常重要台灣我們有沒有機會來去爭取IAWG在這個高峰會在台灣來主辦委員我們就在已經在進行當中不過這個的確有難度但是我們畢竟台灣在女性運動這一塊也在亞洲算是走在前面那所以這一塊我們會積極來爭取\n好 我希望我們可以盡力來爭取甚至如果我們可以去爭取這個組織當中的幹部我想對台灣在國際上面我們的外交以及我們推動國內的運動性平我想都會是很大的進展希望體育署可以繼續來努力好不好\n好 那再來第二點就是運動文化今天的報告當中有看到運動文化不過是放在運動產業的架構之下這讓我也有一點擔心因為我想運動文化它不只是只有產業面向它其實要去\n建構的是我們台灣的體育發展史所以我希望未來我們在規劃的時候因為你們的組織架構都還在研議當中還沒有完全定案嘛我希望未來我們不只是在架構上面組織上面人力上資源上我們在支持重新建構台灣的運動文化的時候不要只有產業的面向而要有文化自己的之土\n我十秒鐘的回應第一個我們這個運動化目前架構在研議當中從基礎的盤點典藏等到價值運用一直到把它產業化甚至呢在長期我們對國家運動的博物館等等的一個可行性的評估目前都在陸陸續續的討論當中這一塊我會盡快來完成來向委員報告\n對 我就舉個例子剛剛講到運動博物館運動博物館如果可以振興產業當然很好但它也不只是為了產業而存在所以這個麻煩你們務必我希望運動文化我們要有它自己的主體性好 謝謝署長署長請回接下來我請部長請部長貝茲勳 謝謝\n部長這個去年我們在這裡也討論很多就台北市幼兒園的狼屍案那在這個案件之後我們持續跟教育部來追蹤也跟國教署有很多的討論那目前在司法的部分毛姓狼屍二審判處28年那除了司法懲罰之外我們教育部更重要的工作是我們不能讓遺憾再次發生\n務必下一次我們要來得及及時阻止所以說去年我們也提出來教育部在性平世界的調查跟處理程序有五項的改進措施在你們給我的資料裡面包含了我們要修正教保人員違法事件調查處理辦法\n第二 我們要製作違法事件常見問題第三 在接獲事件的時候怎麼樣來通報檢討的流程第四 我們要訂定給地方主管機關處理教保人員違法事件的檢核表第五 我們要來修訂教保服務機構不適任人員的通報辦法\n有幾項我知道已經完成了但有幾項還在進行當中請問部長或署長我們什麼時候可以全部來改進完成\n4月底以前除了要法律要預告的部分其他所有行政的部分4月底以前全部會給委員完成4月底以前都會完成我們當時跟委員講第一季嘛我們會把它完成來是 這個非常的重要因為呢這當中特別是涉及到關於相關事件的調查以及通報\n我們要有一些精進例如說當時有討論到認定委員會裡面兒少的專家他究竟是不是必要要有記名再來能不能去匿名檢舉能不能立案再來當時有家長要調閱相關的調查報告\n但是有原方不提供的問題然後甚至在這個個案當中他特別嚴重的是負責人跟加害人就親屬關係所以導致有包庇的問題在這個我們現在五個教育部的改進措施提出來之後會有什麼樣具體的改進改善能不能請署長具體說明\n剛剛委員所提到各個辦法中規範的包含人員類型的專業以及對認定的處理上不要有漏失還有在通報上不要發生二等輕人員有漏失的情況這些全部都進行\n未來如果是二等輕的話我們通報可以怎麼樣未來在通報上他在通報的責任會由地方政府可以直接處理可以跳過原方直接向地方政府通報並且要受理所以這個真的很重要\n所以我們希望教育部可以趕快完成並且後續要去追蹤地方政府要具體確實的來落實喔這個要請部長跟署長多多幫忙再來呢我們也很關心的就是我們性平教育去年的時候我們有在修訂的是我們的這個\n网数位的性别暴力的防治不过呢我看了一下我们113学年度我们的儿少拒绝儿少性剥削的辅导呢是不拍不传不留这大概是已经也蛮多年我们的这个宣导的教材了我要特别提醒部长的是去年发生了很重大的儿少那个性\n影像剝削的案件像黃子嬌的事件當中我們發現這一個創意私房裡面被害的學生有國中生他是被拍攝了上百部的影片那甚至有加害者是補習班的老師他是裝設了偷拍這樣的器材所以我想過去我們這個不拍不傳\n這個我們當時在要教導孩子要防範的觀念是說可能是不小心拍到的這些私密影像要提醒他們小心外流或是如果你看到了不要轉傳給別人但是我們現在發現社會上是有這樣子重大而且是組織性的犯罪事件我認為我們的宣導教材目前沒有跟上我們一定要讓孩子知道例如他要怎麼樣防範\n被偷拍例如當他遇到的是這種集團式的一而再再而三甚至有利誘或者是威脅他去拍攝這樣的影片的時候他可以怎麼做這個在我們目前的宣導教材裡面我認為是不足的部長我們是不是可以找專家學者來協助我們趕快把我們這個兒少性剝削防治的教材要跟上\n我非常同意委員的說法跟主張就是說我們應該把這一個防範提到前端而不是等發生以後才不傳應該是你要主動怎麼樣去緩緩或者我們許多的一些環境裡面怎麼樣去禁止這樣的一個偷拍的行為產生我想這一個部分我們來努力我們現在這個兒少性剝削的防治課程在校園裡面是怎麼樣在進行\n我們確實如同委員所說的我們還是比較從不拍不傳這樣的方式在宣導的那沒有太多針對情境的部分那我想委員剛才說得很清楚我們目前其實在iWIN的機制裡面它其實已經蒐集了非常多真實的案例我們可能需要更多情境的一個說明讓孩子知道這樣的狀況可能在引誘你可能會有這樣的情況那我想會有更具體的案例來做一個宣導跟推廣讓小朋友做防範\n在教材的內容上我想我們要趕快而且要加快不要說再等一年兩年要加快去跟上他現在會兒少他們真實很容易會面對到被性剝削的樣態內容上要跟上再來是在課程的形式上面因為我聽到很多在學校裡面實際上在進行的宣導常常會流於樣板\n甚至是學生喊一個口號我們要兒少性剝削防治怎麼會是讓學生喊這樣的口號呢是讓他這個課程的形式要是確實可以讓我們的孩子們知道\n有可能會有這樣子的危險而當你遇到的時候我們可以做什麼我想這個非常重要因為例如我剛剛講的防範偷拍我相信很多成年女性都不太知道要相關的那個知識那如果家庭教育沒有辦法及時做到我們在校園裡面的教育要趕快提供孩子必要的協助好不好好謝謝謝謝吳佩奕委員質詢\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:02.443 --> 00:08.208\n謝謝主席我請體育署署長有請體育署署長備質詢謝謝委員長署長好我們運動部八月就要成立所以今天業務報告裡面我也看到很多關於未來運動部的規劃尤其有特別振奮的是其中在培育新興運動選手的部分也有關於我長期關注的滑板\n\n00:27.523 --> 00:33.228\n跟霹靂舞我們非常感謝也希望未來可以持續來支持不過有兩點我想要提出建議跟提醒第一點是我們去年其實在討論運動部的組織法修法的時候對於運動外交跟運動文化\n\n00:43.536 --> 00:45.837\n很多委員都有很多的討論也很期待但是在今天的報告當中我們沒有一個段落是專門在提出運動外交的規劃這讓我有一點擔憂了我們有提到品牌國際賽事\n\n00:59.622 --> 01:22.350\n但是运动外交它不会只有比赛在我们行政院的运动部咨询小组结论之一也就有我们要争取参与国际组织增加台湾的国际影响力当时我们的选手咨询委员之一林玉婷也向我们行政院建议例如全机项目现在有成立新的国际组织\n\n01:23.070 --> 01:45.587\n還有建議說我們台灣其實可以嘗試來去爭取國際的職務那這個我們行政單位當然要給予很大力的支持那在立法院我也有參與女子運動外交促進會所以我想不只是運動外交去年國體法修法的時候我們也把運動性評納入所以這可以說是我們未來體育部的\n\n01:46.648 --> 02:13.874\n明定法定的業務現在國際上有一個團體叫IAWG這個署長應該比我更加熟悉國際女性與運動工作小組我想女子運動外交也是非常重要台灣我們有沒有機會來去爭取IAWG在這個高峰會在台灣來主辦委員我們就在已經在進行當中不過這個的確有難度但是我們畢竟台灣在女性運動這一塊也在亞洲算是走在前面那所以這一塊我們會積極來爭取\n\n02:15.097 --> 02:19.102\n好我希望我們可以盡力來爭取甚至如果我們可以去爭取這個組織當中的幹部我想對台灣在國際上面我們的外交以及我們推動國內的運動性平我想都會是很大的進展希望體育署可以繼續來努力好不好\n\n02:33.280 --> 02:51.009\n好那再來第二點就是運動文化今天的報告當中有看到運動文化不過是放在運動產業的架構之下這讓我也有一點擔心因為我想運動文化它不只是只有產業面向它其實要去\n\n02:52.270 --> 03:15.104\n建構的是我們台灣的體育發展史所以我希望未來我們在規劃的時候因為你們的組織架構都還在研議當中還沒有完全定案嘛我希望未來我們不只是在架構上面組織上面人力上資源上我們在支持重新建構台灣的運動文化的時候不要只有產業的面向而要有文化自己的之土\n\n03:15.944 --> 03:32.016\n我十秒鐘的回應第一個我們這個運動化目前架構在研議當中從基礎的盤點典藏等到價值運用一直到把它產業化甚至呢在長期我們對國家運動的博物館等等的一個可行性的評估目前都在陸陸續續的討論當中這一塊我會盡快來完成來向委員報告\n\n03:35.598 --> 03:50.146\n對我就舉個例子剛剛講到運動博物館運動博物館如果可以振興產業當然很好但它也不只是為了產業而存在所以這個麻煩你們務必我希望運動文化我們要有它自己的主體性好謝謝署長署長請回接下來我請部長請部長貝茲勳謝謝\n\n04:00.219 --> 04:04.682\n部長這個去年我們在這裡也討論很多就台北市幼兒園的狼屍案那在這個案件之後我們持續跟教育部來追蹤也跟國教署有很多的討論那目前在司法的部分毛姓狼屍二審判處28年那除了司法懲罰之外我們教育部更重要的工作是我們不能讓遺憾再次發生\n\n04:24.874 --> 04:29.279\n務必下一次我們要來得及及時阻止所以說去年我們也提出來教育部在性平世界的調查跟處理程序有五項的改進措施在你們給我的資料裡面包含了我們要修正教保人員違法事件調查處理辦法\n\n04:43.254 --> 05:03.877\n第二我們要製作違法事件常見問題第三在接獲事件的時候怎麼樣來通報檢討的流程第四我們要訂定給地方主管機關處理教保人員違法事件的檢核表第五我們要來修訂教保服務機構不適任人員的通報辦法\n\n05:06.038 --> 05:14.006\n有幾項我知道已經完成了但有幾項還在進行當中請問部長或署長我們什麼時候可以全部來改進完成\n\n05:15.194 --> 05:34.523\n4月底以前除了要法律要預告的部分其他所有行政的部分4月底以前全部會給委員完成4月底以前都會完成我們當時跟委員講第一季嘛我們會把它完成來是這個非常的重要因為呢這當中特別是涉及到關於相關事件的調查以及通報\n\n05:37.344 --> 05:40.146\n我們要有一些精進例如說當時有討論到認定委員會裡面兒少的專家他究竟是不是必要要有記名再來能不能去匿名檢舉能不能立案再來當時有家長要調閱相關的調查報告\n\n05:53.254 --> 05:57.695\n但是有原方不提供的問題然後甚至在這個個案當中他特別嚴重的是負責人跟加害人就親屬關係所以導致有包庇的問題在這個我們現在五個教育部的改進措施提出來之後會有什麼樣具體的改進改善能不能請署長具體說明\n\n06:15.786 --> 06:27.173\n剛剛委員所提到各個辦法中規範的包含人員類型的專業以及對認定的處理上不要有漏失還有在通報上不要發生二等輕人員有漏失的情況這些全部都進行\n\n06:31.476 --> 06:34.381\n未來如果是二等輕的話我們通報可以怎麼樣未來在通報上他在通報的責任會由地方政府可以直接處理可以跳過原方直接向地方政府通報並且要受理所以這個真的很重要\n\n06:46.880 --> 07:02.760\n所以我們希望教育部可以趕快完成並且後續要去追蹤地方政府要具體確實的來落實喔這個要請部長跟署長多多幫忙再來呢我們也很關心的就是我們性平教育去年的時候我們有在修訂的是我們的這個\n\n07:05.525 --> 07:28.002\n网数位的性别暴力的防治不过呢我看了一下我们113学年度我们的儿少拒绝儿少性剥削的辅导呢是不拍不传不留这大概是已经也蛮多年我们的这个宣导的教材了我要特别提醒部长的是去年发生了很重大的儿少那个性\n\n07:29.315 --> 07:33.960\n影像剝削的案件像黃子嬌的事件當中我們發現這一個創意私房裡面被害的學生有國中生他是被拍攝了上百部的影片那甚至有加害者是補習班的老師他是裝設了偷拍這樣的器材所以我想過去我們這個不拍不傳\n\n07:53.358 --> 08:17.629\n這個我們當時在要教導孩子要防範的觀念是說可能是不小心拍到的這些私密影像要提醒他們小心外流或是如果你看到了不要轉傳給別人但是我們現在發現社會上是有這樣子重大而且是組織性的犯罪事件我認為我們的宣導教材目前沒有跟上我們一定要讓孩子知道例如他要怎麼樣防範\n\n08:19.190 --> 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