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\"language\": \"zh\"}","srt":"1\n00:00:01,346 --> 00:00:10,863\n時間四分鐘謝主席有請部長有請鄭部長\n\n2\n00:00:19,842 --> 00:00:46,612\n只有四分钟要顾教育我把握时间首先稍后会有个临时提案我看到范云委员的提案希望能够来强化我们对于校园霸凌事件的防治其实我在教育委员会以来我长期投入校园霸凌的防治但是我要说与其在后端去做霸凌的防治我们更应当在前端做好好的人格的教育\n\n3\n00:00:47,552 --> 00:01:03,525\n這方面我想您非常支持所以呢心理健康要向下扎根SEL就是重中之重下一頁賴清德總統一再的說沒有心理健康就沒有生理的健康所以這幾年學生輔導法修了\n\n4\n00:01:04,346 --> 00:01:26,023\n那身心調試假大學有了高中也有了然後青壯年世代的心理支持計畫好還要更好是教育部跟衛福部合作的當然最新的是賴總統今年的宣誓全民心理健康任性的計畫六年五十億教育部要非常\n\n5\n00:01:26,804 --> 00:01:36,158\n重要的從校園來建立完善的SEL支持系統。SEL是什麼?下一頁。您完全不陌生喔。是要努力的引進國際的經驗。SEL就是SocialandEmotionalLearning,\n\n6\n00:01:42,948 --> 00:02:04,245\n所以說只要能夠強化學生心理健康跟社會韌性從平日的自我覺察自我管理社會覺察人際關係的技巧跟負責任的決策我們就可以下一頁透過已經有國際上有學術的理論又有教育現場的實證SEL帶進台灣我跟國際的專家論壇努力了這麼久我今天是來\n\n7\n00:02:12,545 --> 00:02:35,736\n燒來我的感謝謝謝部長五年期4.2億也成立了推動委員會上個禮拜還揭牌了一個研究室我捏立法院在表決沒有辦法去I'msosorry但是我謝謝你們支持所以說這個部分感謝部長我們就要系統性的支持而且推動而且預算\n\n8\n00:02:36,756 --> 00:03:04,327\n如果現在預算我都不敢來討預算了啦因為預算都被砍掉了但是這是非常重要的計畫不然我信心永續的推動下去好嗎這當然肯定的這是穩定學校能夠真正好的教育品質而且我要肯定的是這是鄭部長擔任部長以後對於心理健康在校園從國教到高教一個我要說這是跨時代\n\n9\n00:03:05,387 --> 00:03:21,137\n真的是跨時代的大躍進謝謝教育部下一頁然後呢我也很感謝我過去一直說這個心理健康除了軟體要到位我們之前的修法人力的補充法治的健全都是軟體硬體也要跟上所以呢我也要來感謝優先來優化學校的輔導諮商的硬體空間讓學生進到那個空間我真的可以comfortmyself\n\n10\n00:03:35,166 --> 00:03:45,215\n所以說淡江大學、湖北科技大學、文藻外語大學跟台東大學四校的示範改造這個禮拜我們就要辦分享會了我要請部長幫忙不要讓它只是示範跟試點如果未來經費允許我們要全面推動好嗎\n\n11\n00:03:57,747 --> 00:04:11,185\n給下大學誘因優先從大學來改造這些輔資的環境就是一個新的革命New也是一個Hard新的革命可以嗎我想我非常佩服委員的一個這樣的一個觀點\n\n12\n00:04:14,980 --> 00:04:29,093\n因為學校建築本來就是一個不會說話的老師空間會影響人所以空間的美帶來人的一個心理的更舒適然後更好的一個學習的場域我想那是我們希望能夠全面更逐步的來推廣好下一個\n\n13\n00:04:32,236 --> 00:04:50,671\n我很快的来说在总预算跟才华法的冲击之下我要再来抢救教育预算我就讲重点下一页第一个新宿舍运动从1.0到2.0公私立大学一般大学跟技职大学我们目前68%参与了还是不够继续努力下一页\n\n14\n00:04:51,411 --> 00:05:07,539\n然後呢第一年是第一期是五十億私養努力爭取第二期也謝謝教育部幫忙行政院支持有三十三億所以十年期有八十三億一定要繼續做而且要往精進的方案來做下一頁\n\n15\n00:05:08,439 --> 00:05:21,285\n但是我現在擔心了才化法我這段時間找你們廖司長啊楊司長啊大家都在擔心才化法未來大家要統一百分之二十八的預算要檢討我要來拜託啦我要來拜託啦\n\n16\n00:05:26,210 --> 00:05:40,377\n學生的住宿空間盡量免於斷吹的影響我知道你們也不願意但是我希望新宿舍運動要做得好要做得到位我想要優先搶救這個預算下一個\n\n17\n00:05:43,098 --> 00:06:01,195\n还有呢青年的租金补贴363亿当中335亿是编在内政部的国土署它受了很大的影响可能第四季就没有了那校园的部分对于大学生的校内住宿28亿是不是不会受影响还是有受影响\n\n18\n00:06:02,236 --> 00:06:18,280\n然後另外一部分是18歲以上住在校外租屋的那真的會受到內政部那筆預算可能今年第四季就沒有了但是我要確保在學校住宿的這也是思瑤努力爭取到的大學生住宿的租金補貼28億會受影響嗎\n\n19\n00:06:23,289 --> 00:06:42,683\n跟委員報告我們今年努力來維持但是明年真正的一個財化上路可能不是只有28%甚至更高到37%所以我想這個部分我們會整體來看怎麼樣能夠降低對高教的一個影響\n\n20\n00:06:43,283 --> 00:07:05,039\n那我真的蠻難過的我原本以為青年租金補貼計畫是要投入了這麼多要適用在校園因為18歲就是我們民法的成年就是青年他可以好不容易從內政部延伸到學生也可以受惠如果說我原本以為國土署335億受影響\n\n21\n00:07:07,631 --> 00:07:36,101\n原來連教育部28億學生住宿的租金補貼恐怕明年也會受影響想辦法好嗎想辦法幫忙好嗎確實我們內部也已經開始在逐步的一個盤點看怎麼樣在有一些美好的一個政策在不影響的情況下怎麼樣去關照到同時有更好的一個教育品質的一個真的希望在野黨的委員可以聽到教育現場大家的心聲\n\n22\n00:07:37,862 --> 00:07:52,283\n窮不能窮教育苦不能苦青年我希望挽救搶救我們來想方設法最後兩個主題我做個提醒一個是學美美學計畫六年有成但是他的預算會受到\n\n23\n00:07:53,004 --> 00:08:19,693\n大概會減少一半的補助學校就是因為受了預算被刪減的影響在下一個美感教育也是一樣也會受到補助地方的影響所以說我講結論部長我之所以針對心理健康針對空間的改造從新宿舍運動到學美美學到這個美感教育私咬咬告訴您請求您的事我知道在預算承受這麼大衝擊的時候\n\n24\n00:08:21,494 --> 00:08:29,852\n教育的思維不要把文化美感美學空間改造這種心靈層次的當作次要的\n\n25\n00:08:33,533 --> 00:08:42,558\n不要把所有假設你們在列搶救預算未來要致用的priority的裡頭優先順序裡頭不要去犧牲了文化美感心理健康這是我的期待我真的說話要哭啊我真的很開心欸吳司長到我辦公室很多次我們捍衛預算我希望學美美學因為會受蠻多影響的嘛對不對\n\n26\n00:08:58,787 --> 00:09:24,121\n跟委員報告確實心理健康美感經驗事實上是有很重要的而且是文化藝術會改造人的心理我想也不瞞委員我想怎麼樣讓我們的新世代的年輕人把美感成為一種生活態度美感創造更多的美感經驗那是學校教育包含我們整個中央部會我們都會共同朝那一個方向來努力的\n\n27\n00:09:24,281 --> 00:09:48,863\n好我們搶救教育所以我的開頭也是我的結尾SEL情感教育讓我們的孩子從小就能夠培養起同理心關懷他人這就是一個社會非常重要的穩健的力量我們要讓每一個孩子有正向的人格而這需要很多教育政策的支持美感美學文化藝術\n\n28\n00:09:49,864 --> 00:09:58,961\n都是重中之重我希望不要受到總預算刪減才化法的衝擊不能夠來犧牲這些計畫我們一起加油辛苦了謝主席多給我時間謝謝\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n1346\t10863\t時間四分鐘謝主席 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myself\n215166\t225215\t所以說淡江大學、湖北科技大學、文藻外語大學跟台東大學四校的示範改造這個禮拜我們就要辦分享會了我要請部長幫忙不要讓它只是示範跟試點如果未來經費允許我們要全面推動好嗎\n237747\t251185\t給下大學誘因優先從大學來改造這些輔資的環境就是一個新的革命New也是一個Hard新的革命可以嗎我想我非常佩服委員的一個這樣的一個觀點\n254980\t269093\t因為學校建築本來就是一個不會說話的老師空間會影響人所以空間的美帶來人的一個心理的更舒適然後更好的一個學習的場域我想那是我們希望能夠全面更逐步的來推廣好下一個\n272236\t290671\t我很快的来说在总预算跟才华法的冲击之下我要再来抢救教育预算我就讲重点下一页第一个新宿舍运动从1.0到2.0公私立大学一般大学跟技职大学我们目前68%参与了还是不够继续努力下一页\n291411\t307539\t然後呢第一年是第一期是五十億私養努力爭取第二期也謝謝教育部幫忙行政院支持有三十三億所以十年期有八十三億一定要繼續做而且要往精進的方案來做下一頁\n308439\t321285\t但是我現在擔心了才化法我這段時間找你們廖司長啊楊司長啊大家都在擔心才化法未來大家要統一百分之二十八的預算要檢討我要來拜託啦我要來拜託啦\n326210\t340377\t學生的住宿空間盡量免於斷吹的影響我知道你們也不願意但是我希望新宿舍運動要做得好 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對不對\n538787\t564121\t跟委員報告確實心理健康美感經驗事實上是有很重要的而且是文化藝術會改造人的心理我想也不瞞委員我想怎麼樣讓我們的新世代的年輕人把美感成為一種生活態度美感創造更多的美感經驗那是學校教育包含我們整個中央部會我們都會共同朝那一個方向來努力的\n564281\t588863\t好 我們搶救教育所以我的開頭也是我的結尾SEL 情感教育讓我們的孩子從小就能夠培養起同理心關懷他人這就是一個社會非常重要的穩健的力量我們要讓每一個孩子有正向的人格而這需要很多教育政策的支持美感 美學 文化 藝術\n589864\t598961\t都是重中之重我希望不要受到總預算刪減才化法的衝擊不能夠來犧牲這些計畫我們一起加油辛苦了 謝主席多給我時間 謝謝\n","txt":"時間四分鐘謝主席 有請部長有請鄭部長\n只有四分钟要顾教育我把握时间首先稍后会有个临时提案我看到范云委员的提案希望能够来强化我们对于校园霸凌事件的防治其实我在教育委员会以来我长期投入校园霸凌的防治但是我要说与其在后端去做霸凌的防治我们更应当在前端做好好的人格的教育\n這方面我想您非常支持所以呢心理健康要向下扎根SEL就是重中之重下一頁賴清德總統一再的說沒有心理健康就沒有生理的健康所以這幾年學生輔導法修了\n那身心調試假大學有了高中也有了然後青壯年世代的心理支持計畫好還要更好是教育部跟衛福部合作的當然最新的是賴總統今年的宣誓全民心理健康任性的計畫六年五十億教育部要非常\n重要的從校園來建立完善的SEL支持系統。SEL是什麼?下一頁。您完全不陌生喔。是要努力的引進國際的經驗。SEL就是Social and Emotional Learning,\n所以說只要能夠強化學生心理健康跟社會韌性從平日的自我覺察自我管理社會覺察人際關係的技巧跟負責任的決策我們就可以下一頁透過已經有國際上有學術的理論又有教育現場的實證SEL帶進台灣我跟國際的專家論壇努力了這麼久我今天是來\n燒來我的感謝謝謝部長五年期4.2億也成立了推動委員會上個禮拜還揭牌了一個研究室我捏立法院在表決沒有辦法去I'm so sorry但是我謝謝你們支持所以說這個部分感謝部長我們就要系統性的支持而且推動而且預算\n如果現在預算我都不敢來討預算了啦因為預算都被砍掉了但是這是非常重要的計畫不然我信心永續的推動下去好嗎這當然肯定的這是穩定學校能夠真正好的教育品質而且我要肯定的是這是鄭部長擔任部長以後對於心理健康在校園從國教到高教一個我要說這是跨時代\n真的是跨時代的大躍進謝謝教育部下一頁然後呢我也很感謝我過去一直說這個心理健康除了軟體要到位我們之前的修法人力的補充法治的健全都是軟體硬體也要跟上所以呢我也要來感謝優先來優化學校的輔導諮商的硬體空間讓學生進到那個空間我真的可以comfort myself\n所以說淡江大學、湖北科技大學、文藻外語大學跟台東大學四校的示範改造這個禮拜我們就要辦分享會了我要請部長幫忙不要讓它只是示範跟試點如果未來經費允許我們要全面推動好嗎\n給下大學誘因優先從大學來改造這些輔資的環境就是一個新的革命New也是一個Hard新的革命可以嗎我想我非常佩服委員的一個這樣的一個觀點\n因為學校建築本來就是一個不會說話的老師空間會影響人所以空間的美帶來人的一個心理的更舒適然後更好的一個學習的場域我想那是我們希望能夠全面更逐步的來推廣好下一個\n我很快的来说在总预算跟才华法的冲击之下我要再来抢救教育预算我就讲重点下一页第一个新宿舍运动从1.0到2.0公私立大学一般大学跟技职大学我们目前68%参与了还是不够继续努力下一页\n然後呢第一年是第一期是五十億私養努力爭取第二期也謝謝教育部幫忙行政院支持有三十三億所以十年期有八十三億一定要繼續做而且要往精進的方案來做下一頁\n但是我現在擔心了才化法我這段時間找你們廖司長啊楊司長啊大家都在擔心才化法未來大家要統一百分之二十八的預算要檢討我要來拜託啦我要來拜託啦\n學生的住宿空間盡量免於斷吹的影響我知道你們也不願意但是我希望新宿舍運動要做得好 要做得到位我想要優先搶救這個預算下一個\n还有呢青年的租金补贴363亿当中335亿是编在内政部的国土署它受了很大的影响可能第四季就没有了那校园的部分对于大学生的校内住宿28亿是不是不会受影响还是有受影响\n然後另外一部分是18歲以上住在校外租屋的那真的會受到內政部那筆預算可能今年第四季就沒有了但是我要確保在學校住宿的這也是思瑤努力爭取到的大學生住宿的租金補貼28億會受影響嗎\n跟委員報告我們今年努力來維持但是明年真正的一個財化上路可能不是只有28%甚至更高到37%所以我想這個部分我們會整體來看怎麼樣能夠降低對高教的一個影響\n那我真的蠻難過的我原本以為青年租金補貼計畫是要投入了這麼多要適用在校園因為18歲就是我們民法的成年就是青年他可以好不容易從內政部延伸到學生也可以受惠如果說我原本以為國土署335億受影響\n原來連教育部28億學生住宿的租金補貼恐怕明年也會受影響想辦法好嗎想辦法幫忙好嗎確實我們內部也已經開始在逐步的一個盤點看怎麼樣在有一些美好的一個政策在不影響的情況下怎麼樣去關照到同時有更好的一個教育品質的一個真的希望在野黨的委員可以聽到教育現場大家的心聲\n窮不能窮教育苦不能苦青年我希望挽救搶救我們來想方設法最後兩個主題我做個提醒一個是學美美學計畫六年有成但是他的預算會受到\n大概會減少一半的補助學校就是因為受了預算被刪減的影響在下一個美感教育也是一樣也會受到補助地方的影響所以說我講結論部長我之所以針對心理健康針對空間的改造從新宿舍運動到學美美學到這個美感教育私咬咬告訴您請求您的事我知道在預算承受這麼大衝擊的時候\n教育的思維不要把文化美感美學空間改造這種心靈層次的當作次要的\n不要把所有 假設你們在列搶救預算 未來要致用的priority的裡頭優先順序裡頭 不要去犧牲了文化 美感 心理健康這是我的期待我真的說話要哭啊 我真的很開心欸吳司長到我辦公室很多次我們捍衛預算 我希望學美美學因為會受蠻多影響的嘛 對不對\n跟委員報告確實心理健康美感經驗事實上是有很重要的而且是文化藝術會改造人的心理我想也不瞞委員我想怎麼樣讓我們的新世代的年輕人把美感成為一種生活態度美感創造更多的美感經驗那是學校教育包含我們整個中央部會我們都會共同朝那一個方向來努力的\n好 我們搶救教育所以我的開頭也是我的結尾SEL 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