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00:00:21,138\n好謝謝主席喔那請我們卓永泰卓院長還有我們農業部陳俊濟部長還有我們郭志輝經濟部長謝謝麻煩請卓院長經濟部農業部備選杜委員好好院長部長好喔那\n\n2\n00:00:38,019 --> 00:01:01,127\n我們4月2號美東時間開始我們全球經濟面對大動盪那美國總統川普也宣布那一天為解放日也公布一項全新的我們雙層的關稅制度先是10%的基準關稅後來又針對60個國家徵收額外的對等關稅那台灣也被要求課徵32%那這個衝擊真的非常大\n\n3\n00:01:04,228 --> 00:01:27,844\n雖然後來川普總統有馬上宣布暫緩要向各國來進行關稅的談判可是這個可以說是國難當頭我們不能不勝那4月11號是不是我方的經貿談判團隊有跟美方進行視訊會議是的那有沒有什麼具體的成果還是有談到哪一些部分嗎\n\n4\n00:01:29,144 --> 00:01:55,195\n我們也很欣慰能夠在算是第一輪的開始我們在很優先的時間序上面跟美方就雙方的談判團隊進行視訊的會議那視訊談到的我們日前有向國人報告關於對等關稅非關稅貿易障礙以及出國管制在內的多項議題交換的意見但這是一個啟動未來我們會將更完善的備託所有\n\n5\n00:01:55,795 --> 00:02:22,728\n全部的資料跟美方做下一波的一個談判那這個時間我們還在爭取最有利於我方的時間那有沒有談到一些軍國方面跟天然氣的採購方面我基於國際談判的慣例跟雙方的默契我們雙方同意就是對於對等關稅非關稅貿易障礙以及包括出國管制多項議題來做交換意見所以現在只能講一些大略的部分細節部分沒有辦法說明\n\n6\n00:02:23,550 --> 00:02:50,646\n就談判的過程是如此我想請問一下因為這一部分在視訊會議我們這個談判的部分我們的學界跟專家都有提醒說美方可能會要求加碼買美債的持有甚至我們也看到我們執政黨立委也倡議說應該要擴大持有針對這一部分我們談判的代表裡面有央行的成員嗎\n\n7\n00:02:51,947 --> 00:03:10,892\n事先的諮詢團隊都有事先諮詢團隊都有包括我們金融支持的各方的團隊都有因為我們也看到我們中央銀行總裁楊金龍總裁好像也對擴大持有我們也在這個建議他也說是非常好也可以對於跟美國談判的一個籌碼\n\n8\n00:03:12,847 --> 00:03:30,735\n我們現在談判的態度就是我們採取任何議題都可以談但是我們基於國家最高的利益以及產業界能夠維持它的國際競爭力兩項原則跟美方做所有的接觸所以任何包括採購包括投資以及包括各種的合作案都可以談\n\n9\n00:03:31,294 --> 00:03:46,426\n那你剛才談到的美債其實我方持有美國的美債也有相當大的數量那在這個時候一定是依照整個國際金融秩序以我們財政能力的規劃來做進一步的思考那美債這部分有談到嗎\n\n10\n00:03:48,279 --> 00:04:14,142\n這個是我們在內部規劃會有這樣的準備但是談判的過程抱歉這個有列入選項不是我們很多的選項都列在裡面我剛才說採購也有投資也有還有這些談判到底關稅產業各項產業的關稅的稅率如果談判我們都有做準備這是我們備妥的方案但實際進到談判的桌上去談的我們還要進一步的去到了那個時間點才能跟對方來談\n\n11\n00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:38,899\n好那也希望能夠為我們台灣的經濟多幫忙一定我們是以產業維持產業國際競爭力讓國內的產業能夠安定這個是最優先的一個考量好那也提醒我們行政院其實在川普宣布對等關稅措施的前三天3月31號我們有看到美國貿易代表署有提交2025對外貿易障礙評估報告那點名對我國\n\n12\n00:04:44,997 --> 00:05:01,977\n美豬牛馬鈴薯稻米基改食品等限制為不必要的貿易障礙要求我國來調整那請問院長針對美豬美牛進一步的開放還有美國稻米的關稅調漲或者擴大配合這一部分\n\n13\n00:05:04,321 --> 00:05:30,159\n照院長剛剛這樣講應該也有可能是成為談判的籌碼之一喔我想每個國家不論他是在工業或農業都有屬於自己國家的敏感的產業敏感的產品他都會基於保護這敏感產品用國家的角度來思考每個國家都是這樣子那我們跟美方因為我們在去年我們對美方的輸出是比較多造成逆差比美方美國的逆差比較大\n\n14\n00:05:30,700 --> 00:05:48,179\n所以他會要求我們盡量在平衡這個逆差裡面那我們採行的方法會用大的投資大的採購來平衡這個貿易那至於這些比較敏感的產品我想是基於雙方共同的利益我們就不分工業部門或是農業部門會進行各個產業不同的評估那當然農業\n\n15\n00:05:49,904 --> 00:06:08,104\n漁民農民是我們要優先保護的對象我想這個委員您放心國內也放心我們一定站在這個原則上為什麼說要提醒院長因為我們賴總統有在彭國社來表示他會致力於排除非關稅貿易障礙向美豬美牛進一步開放等等\n\n16\n00:06:08,824 --> 00:06:29,616\n這些就是美方最關注的非關稅貿易障礙所以我也希望院長能夠注意我們賴總統有在彭博社曾經有表示過這個意見要排除非關稅貿易障礙的品項非常的複雜但是一定要有排除的依據我們的依據就是如果符合國際貿易秩序也有國際的標準\n\n17\n00:06:31,224 --> 00:06:39,077\n從此他有科學的證據那都是可以在談判說來談的但是保護農運民的權益優先這個還是我方基本態度\n\n18\n00:06:39,605 --> 00:07:07,211\n因為現在大家也很擔心那個美國稻米零關稅的問題像白米炸彈客楊如門他就有講如果美國廉價米零關稅來開放就是崩盤失業滅龍的三連擊那我們養豬協會也提醒如果豬肉產地標示這個法規一定要守住如果消費者沒有辦法辨識產地那我們說想要支持台灣豬肉\n\n19\n00:07:08,251 --> 00:07:14,736\n真的沒有辦法這絕對對國內的豬肉的產業會造成很大的衝擊楊先生過去對台灣農業以及是稻農的這些\n\n20\n00:07:19,966 --> 00:07:44,760\n用心的支持我們都肯定我也看到了他最近的這個文章在當天我就請部長一定要設法能夠去進行說明溝通甚至詢問意見那不是請部長能夠說明這個過程好我跟委員說明就是剛才委員所提到的現在目前在貿易清單裡面的一些品項那農業部因為我們跟美國基本上是逆差的部分那這個部分我們會先跟美國積極的說明\n\n21\n00:07:46,841 --> 00:08:05,629\n針對一些國內必須去保護不是保護就是說去支持的我想農業部基本上因為我們農業肩負了糧食安全的責任像您說的稻米的部分還有一些本身的肉類禽類的部分這個都是我們糧食安全必須要守住的部分所以我們未來在處理這個議題的時候\n\n22\n00:08:07,089 --> 00:08:20,455\n我們一定是要確保我們產業的競爭力同時穩定我們產業的永續發展更重要的是我們會保障我們的農民漁民的權益用這三個原則我們才會去處理後續的這些相關的一個談判議題\n\n23\n00:08:21,736 --> 00:08:49,214\n對啊因為這個豬跟牛還有稻米是我們民眾真的還有各個豬農牛農稻農最特別關心的一個問題那我們了解目前我們針對加徵關稅蘭花茶毛豆還有出口魚類我們好像已經有開始做產業衝擊座談可是我們對於美方點名的非貿易障礙豬跟牛稻米好像還沒有開始開這個座談是不是\n\n24\n00:08:50,845 --> 00:08:57,489\n我跟委員報告就是我們現在跟業者座談是針對美方提高關稅本來是30後來是暫緩90天用10%的情況之下我們跟農業民去\n\n25\n00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:29,516\n告訴他們我們政府所提出來的這個支持方案同時也聽我們產業的一些意見來滾動檢討我們的支持方案那至於您剛才說的這些關稅的這些談判的部分那現在目前所有的議題都在準備當中我們並沒有說要把農業的議題推到第一線去跟美方談我們絕對不會犧牲了農民的權益當作一個籌碼\n\n26\n00:09:30,714 --> 00:09:48,788\n好當然我們也是今天會提出來就是害怕影響到他們的權益那當然因為我也知道這個談判過程就像院長剛剛講很多的選項裡面就是希望有利於這個談判那當然如果談判這個過程中能夠不讓步那當然我們希望能夠保護我們這些農民豬農牛農稻農等等\n\n27\n00:09:51,730 --> 00:10:07,802\n但是如果真的談判的過程美方強烈的要求如果我們行政院真的會有讓步的話我覺得也要在這之前要向農友進行農產的座談還有相關的配套措施這部分可以嗎\n\n28\n00:10:08,966 --> 00:10:37,038\n跟委員報告整個我們談判團隊啊內容準備的相當的完備啊無論是工業或是農業各方面那我們也想到說在談判的過程當中當然是爭取最大的利益啊但是如果說雙方在談判的過程一定是互有進有進有退嘛那我們基本的原則一定要守住但是可以在跟他細節上面做談判的時候必到了一定成熟\n\n29\n00:10:37,540 --> 00:11:04,177\n要跟國人報告我們一定隨時準備好向國人清楚的說明當然我們是希望這部分我們能夠堅守我們的原則希望像尤其豬肉的部分我覺得產地的標示我們真的應該是不能退讓因為我們這要保護我們的豬農像本席的選區桃園沿海跟陽梅這些他們講他們這邊的豬比人還多所以表示\n\n30\n00:11:04,617 --> 00:11:26,703\n他們這些豬農他們這個豬肉產業在我們地方佔有非常重要的地位所以我們希望說當然能夠堅持一定要堅持但是如果真的談判過程中有困難的時候一定要先跟我們農友進行產業溝通相關的配套措施一定要完善不能讓損失到我們這些農民的權益\n\n31\n00:11:27,751 --> 00:11:54,477\n是的所以我們事先準備了這些支持方案我想農業部已經有相當詳細的規劃在裡面我跟委員報告台灣的豬肉自給率大概將近88到90而且我們台灣的豬肉是用溫體屠宰的方式所以請您相信我們台灣的豬肉在國人的心中是第一個優先選擇的部分那過往的豬肉其實其他的國家都有進口那這個進口的燉素裡面其實都是不同的國家在替換\n\n32\n00:11:55,157 --> 00:12:22,169\n但是還是回歸一句所有的豬肉豬肉的部分跟雞肉的部分我想我們還是會確保農民的收益為前提之下才去考量後續的問題因為我們是擔心豬肉到時候沒有標示這個產地勢必對台灣豬農這個豬肉產業一定會造成很大的衝擊這一部分繼續努力請問一下我們院長跟我們經濟部長我們是不是沒有針對\n\n33\n00:12:23,630 --> 00:12:50,827\n服務貿易這一方面來做統計數字因為根據我們貿易法的明文貿易我們是直指貨幣貿易那所以我們在經濟部國貿署這一部分服務貿易統計資料是不是沒有好像只有美方才有報告委員我想服務貿易的這個數字我們應該是持有的我們是有這樣數字但是問題這個不在關稅的範圍之內\n\n34\n00:12:53,513 --> 00:13:05,925\n那我們查得到嗎我們有這個統計的資料嗎我們要我們如果要去搜尋這些資料應該是可以搜尋得到不是我的意思是說沒有辦法作為我是說沒有做統計嘛這部分我們\n\n35\n00:13:07,266 --> 00:13:23,711\n國貿署是沒有做這方面的統計資料嗎國貿署都是會有所有的國內的這個變動都有這些數字因為我會提出來就是說發現我們對美的服務貿易有往來只有美方的統計數字那服務貿易你看它\n\n36\n00:13:24,704 --> 00:13:36,179\n涵蓋的很廣臉書GoogleNetflix這些公司在台灣的服務貿易的收入美方統計2024年100多億台幣3.86億美金但是我們覺得這個數字其實一定是遠遠被低估\n\n37\n00:13:43,513 --> 00:14:07,560\n那不知道部長對這一方面所以我說我們都沒有做這個統計資料那因為根據我們查的資料顯示你看《紐約時報》報導美國服務貿易順差接近3000億美元約新台幣9.9兆那其中大部分的服務都從金融服務到雲端運算都是透過數位方式交付那NAFI在全球營收達到390億美元\n\n38\n00:14:11,081 --> 00:14:29,670\n他的淨利就達87.1美元那Google的母公司Alphabet在2024年的全球營收達到3500億美元那這些數字可以看得到美國在數位服務貿易這方面真的是全球賺飽飽所以\n\n39\n00:14:32,008 --> 00:14:47,016\n我們桃園市市長張三振那時候有提到川普在這一方面他完全不提Google臉書在全球賺大錢的事情那我們這個服務貿易這部分是不是一樣也可以做成我們的談判籌碼跟委員報告這個服務產業的\n\n40\n00:14:54,215 --> 00:15:23,018\n面非常的廣項目非常的多其實我們跟美方就服務業的這種互相往來的進進出出數字他呈現一個不是很穩定的數字幾年下來都這樣有時候我們會有一些增加那這個在這一次的關稅的新政策當中並沒有列入因為他變成一個不是穩定的一個狀態這個我們在財政部啊他曾經有過相類似的一些評估出現那這個我們因為現在不在\n\n41\n00:15:23,738 --> 00:15:49,109\n不列入到跟他談判的過程當中對啊我是建議啊因為也不能說美方都找他自己對他有利的條件你看這服務貿易我們我們這個這部分喔對美國服務貿易這個逆差非常非常的大我說這部分我們應該要做個統計數字應該也可以列入我們對美談判的籌碼這個統計數字我們有所以說剛委員說逆差非常大就是它呈現一個不穩定的狀態\n\n42\n00:15:50,540 --> 00:16:04,729\n好我們是希望說這一部分也可以列入啦能夠增加我們對美的談判籌碼好那請我們兩位部長謝謝那請我們客委會主委我們谷主委麻煩請客委會備選\n\n43\n00:16:22,042 --> 00:16:31,971\n好那谷主委那當然這部分首先先感謝我們客委會對於我們爭取桃園市政府對於我們\n\n44\n00:16:33,519 --> 00:17:01,182\n三個建設案的補助那因為其實本席的選區也是算是道地的算客家莊像陽梅新屋都有七成八成的客家人那針對這一部分像我們新屋圖書館還有客家文化館這一部分我們爭取經費也感謝客委會已經核定備查可是針對觀音輪坪文化景園區客庄共榮市義遊客廳工程\n\n45\n00:17:02,283 --> 00:17:18,853\n聽說我們評審委員對這一部分好像意見有分歧好像經費上還沒有核定是嗎是是在我們審查的時候委員對於這一個計畫跟原來的目標客庄生活教育中心的主題比較\n\n46\n00:17:20,189 --> 00:17:35,787\n不一致所以目前是沒有核定那這部分我覺得如果說有需要的話本系也可以幫忙出面協調因為這部分其實對於我們發展客家文化其實有很大的注意所以前面兩個案子感謝我們主委\n\n47\n00:17:36,147 --> 00:17:52,763\n那這第三個案子對於我們像觀音輪瓶它也是典型的一個客家人的地方那這一部分也希望對於發展我們客家文化有所助益的部分希望我們客人會能夠來幫忙那有需要協調的部分本系也願意去跟大家來溝通協調\n\n48\n00:17:54,651 --> 00:18:04,807\n是我們可以請同事再來瞭解看看地方上好謝謝主委那謝謝我們鼓主委請回那請我們交通部部長陳士凱陳部長請交通部備選\n\n49\n00:18:17,523 --> 00:18:33,253\n好那這一部分也感謝我們陳部長因為那時候在委員會質詢的時候我們針對國一交流道北出閘道的改善計畫還有國一幼師交流道南出閘道的改善計畫那這一部分\n\n50\n00:18:34,173 --> 00:18:59,413\n也感謝我們高工局全力的配合也特地下鄉去跟我們鄉親說明這兩個交流道因為長期以來多年交通非常臃色的問題那這一部分三月底已經公告招標年底完工不知道這一部分現在進度是怎麼樣這個部分報告委員沒有問題目前正在招標作業當中我們還是預定今年年底要完工所以這一部分應該沒問題\n\n51\n00:19:01,817 --> 00:19:13,996\n還有我們現在大家比較關注的就是我們國道1號陽頭段拓寬這部分的工程因為在地的鄉親就是希望能夠\n\n52\n00:19:15,325 --> 00:19:32,291\n先規劃增設北出南入的閘道不要像之前我們舞陽高架做好之後後來多年以後有這個需求後來才去做這個閘道這變成二次施工也把這個時間拖得很長也讓我們在地的居民\n\n53\n00:19:33,351 --> 00:19:58,451\n因為飽受這工程的困擾把這時間拖得更長所以我們希望在國道1號陽頭段拓寬的時候就能夠先把這北出南入的閘道增設的部分先來幫我們規劃納入好這個部分我們跟市政府大家一起來研議看怎麼樣把它規劃進來好這也順便跟我們部長提一下因為那個時候本來因為\n\n54\n00:19:59,935 --> 00:20:19,714\n楊梅交流楊梅休息站最近應該大家都應該比較有關注到因為在過年的時候才發生了死亡車禍那這個三年來它發生了十幾起而且造成七個人死亡尤其在這次過年特別的嚴重那當然也有很多\n\n55\n00:20:20,325 --> 00:20:38,710\n民眾質疑就是說是不是因為它是原本的收費站去改成休息站所以是不是在設計規劃上有一些的問題希望能夠去做改善那當然我也希望說專業的單位去了解那當然我們那時候因為剛好要針對\n\n56\n00:20:40,570 --> 00:21:07,157\n陽頭段的北出南入的閘道所以那時候本來因為休息站這個問題所以也有很多的地方的民意說是不是把這個休息站廢掉直接來做我們南入的閘道因為我們下去不到20公里就有一個湖口休息站是這部分可是好像這部分高工局交通部好像有點意見是不是這部分部長有掌握嗎\n\n57\n00:21:08,053 --> 00:21:26,838\n報告委員因為這個休息站比較特殊這個休息站是給高架路段在使用的未來我們高架路段還會再做延伸所以以長途來講那邊是有需要做休息站當時也是因為原本沒做後來因為有這個需求才大家爭取去做了這個休息站\n\n58\n00:21:27,658 --> 00:21:56,808\n那這個休息站建置的過程當中當然一切都是依我們的安全法規去設定的所以安全上的設定應該是都沒有問題不然高工局不會來做這個休息站好沒關係因為時間的問題那目前我們是因為高工局有提出這個意見那後來也請交通局針對這一部分不然就是希望規劃做一個變道就能夠解決南入這個問題因為現在北出的問題已經解決了已經找到地方\n\n59\n00:21:57,248 --> 00:22:12,727\n像南路的部分後來那天我們有下去考察那就是說希望交通局先提出可行性評估希望做個變道對由市政府先提出可行性評估對那這部分我們也希望部長到時候能夠來幫我們支持還有我們\n\n60\n00:22:14,008 --> 00:22:39,602\n下一個就是我們之前在委員會也有提楊梅秀才路178巷它是一個縣道可是它是銜接台一線那時候我們有提出希望納入第三期的審改計畫裡面可是後來我們發現這個審改計畫好像說行政院到現在都還沒有核定我們經費已經通過可是這個計畫沒有核定是現在有什麼問題嗎\n\n61\n00:22:41,950 --> 00:22:59,425\n報告這個行政院已經在應該上個月吧上個月已經核定已經核定了是嗎因為我們那時候計畫一直要送可是一直說行政院還沒有核定所以這計畫一直卡在那邊那也感謝院長那這個核定那我們就可以開始進行了還有剛好\n\n62\n00:23:04,042 --> 00:23:23,901\n我們省道陽梅區在上個禮拜上個禮拜剛好我們在桃園陽梅的區段下起了大好雨當然我們也知道瞬間的大好雨有時候排水的問題沒有辦法解決可是後來民眾反映他是說主要是因為很多的排水口\n\n63\n00:23:24,542 --> 00:23:45,935\n沒有清空導致你看這個畫面它下雨它水根本就排不下去並不是說當然瞬間好大雨無法馬上排走沒有問題可是它基本上是因為它的排水口阻塞所以今天要提出來的部分就是說新建的部分我們要做可是像我們台一線\n\n64\n00:23:46,995 --> 00:24:01,923\n縱灌入這些是不是在颱風季節來臨的前夕是不是能夠做個清查針對很多的排水孔還有一些阻塞的部分應該做個清查不然造成這個淹水影響我們民眾財產的損失跟安全上的問題\n\n65\n00:24:03,459 --> 00:24:25,964\n報告委員我們會請公路局針對我們所有的省道、轄管的省道在汛期來臨之前的所有的這個清書的部分我們先來做好這部分請部長來多關心一下因為這個颱風季即將來臨希望能夠做個總體檢來檢查一下好謝謝我們部長那這部分還是不好意思請一下我們農業部的陳部長麻煩請農業部備詢\n\n66\n00:24:31,428 --> 00:24:50,097\n因為我們部長我們在113年我們針對農機補助在2月就公告3月到4月就開始來實施第一階段申請從3月到4月底就開始申請可是這部分為什麼到現在還沒有公告農民就很恐慌為什麼農機補助到現在還沒有公告\n\n67\n00:24:52,069 --> 00:25:10,447\n我跟委員報告在前幾年的部分我們農機大概一年用大概23億的一個補助額度那都是先申請先營那這樣子因為有的產業他可能是在冬季才需要所以他購買的時候會在冬季所以我們這一兩年已經\n\n68\n00:25:11,388 --> 00:25:33,375\n分為三個時期來接受申請跟接受它的一個審核所以才會有一些就是說每三個月我們會有一個公告然後再審查再公告再審查有一些時間的落差那現在什麼時候可以開始公告我這個部分我詳細的部分我回去問一下以後再跟委員回覆\n\n69\n00:25:34,522 --> 00:25:57,553\n對這請部長多幫忙喔因為這個農基補助他們每年像這個時候都已經開始申請3月1號就開始申請每年都是這樣那只有到今年到現在農基補助那我們看這個經費也沒有問題啊他這個經費就是農業的特別收入基金向下的農村再生基金現在是我們的申請跟審查我們有分階段不是\n\n70\n00:25:58,615 --> 00:26:20,228\n往年一開始申請然後全部完了以後就開始審查我們有分階段讓不同的季節跟不同產業的農民那部長這一部分再幫我們加快一下因為很多農民在反映了解好謝謝部長那這一部分再請我們工程會門陳金德陳主委麻煩請工程會備選好那爭取時間那\n\n71\n00:26:28,476 --> 00:26:40,923\n院長還有陳主委這一部分要幫我們航空城的徵收戶來請命那為什麼找陳主委因為在今年二月陳主委以政務員的身份有主持我們航空城的專案小組會議對吧那當時會中\n\n72\n00:26:44,565 --> 00:26:59,565\n我們主委有指示配合街廓點交跟安置住宅陸續完工要讓徵收戶可以重建家園成構住宅而且要在明年底前完成先建後遷讓我們桃園機場第三跑道可以順利推進可是現在\n\n73\n00:27:01,767 --> 00:27:28,075\n針對這部分承購住宅部分的問題很多安置物既有的補償費不足以支付完整的購物費用現在在尋求我們貸款融資可是去年開始不動產融資政策緊縮雖然您有指示中央銀行跟金管會放寬貸款跟乘數的限制也讓他們優先核貸可是目前他們說\n\n74\n00:27:29,275 --> 00:27:50,914\n他們到各個八大公股銀行這些去好像還是一樣沒有辦法能夠順利的貸款報告委員這個我們有請中央銀行還有各金融機構有請他們能夠特別來考量但是目前的做法大概都是一致的\n\n75\n00:27:51,854 --> 00:28:07,496\n那這部分因為成構住宅的部分事實上加上補助這部分的金額比一般住宅事實上是便宜很多那我們會盡量就個案來跟相關的銀行來\n\n76\n00:28:09,399 --> 00:28:25,012\n來請求協助因為希望這部分能夠趕快協助因為他們在114年8月有一個15%的加速開發獎勵金可是你現在這個錢他帶不下他根本沒有錢買沒有錢去裝潢這些東西都不能去做然後\n\n77\n00:28:25,532 --> 00:28:43,101\n又限期他在八月一定要搬遷過去房子都沒好他怎麼搬遷過去然後他過了時間獎勵金又領不到所以這部分有時效的問題希望我們針對貸款的部分給他們盡量協助那當然還有像我們安置街坑的徵售戶一樣\n\n78\n00:28:43,661 --> 00:29:12,881\n他在明年二月底前完成二樓樓地板的勘驗好才能領取安置接擴重建協助金可是現在他們也面臨這個問題針對台水台電這個臨時水電的接管一方面人力不足還有這個臨時用電用水這個金額申請的這些費用都非常的高昂不知道有沒有能夠解決的方法公用設施的部分水電這個都已經完成了\n\n79\n00:29:13,861 --> 00:29:34,484\n那主要是臺灣市政府針對這麼多戶他的那個建造的申請也好或者是始造的勘驗也好他必須加快速度那至於完成二樓的樓地碼面積的獎金那這個都已經之前就已經公告了所以時間沒有辦法再演\n\n80\n00:29:35,287 --> 00:29:58,095\n好沒關係但是你其他的部分要幫他解決他才有辦法去處理好那這部分提出來就是因為他們已經面臨到這個問題還有就是院長也在這邊那一天我們東龍凱悅也是航空城徵收戶這部分他們因為中央法規的限制還有國土署法規上要去尋求解套\n\n81\n00:29:58,975 --> 00:30:16,109\n變成說他們現在想要納入結果遭受到很多的問題所以這部分先提出來希望院長到時候能夠重視是不是在法規上能夠給他解套或者民航局能夠提供更好的交通噪音排水等配套讓他們來解決那這部分問題我們在下個禮拜應該我會來\n\n82\n00:30:22,354 --> 00:30:36,922\n開一個公聽說明會希望我們院長跟部長我們各部會相關的能夠來解決我們航空城徵收戶這一系列的問題能夠幫他們獲得改善解決他們的問題再請陳書偉收集各方的意見\n\n83\n00:30:47,878 --> 00:30:52,249\n好,谢谢图轩基委员的资讯,谢谢卓院长、各部会首长的备询,谢谢。\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n10151\t21138\t好謝謝主席喔那請我們卓永泰卓院長還有我們農業部陳俊濟部長還有我們郭志輝經濟部長謝謝麻煩請卓院長經濟部農業部備選杜委員好好院長部長好喔那\n38019\t61127\t我們4月2號美東時間開始我們全球經濟面對大動盪那美國總統川普也宣布那一天為解放日也公布一項全新的我們雙層的關稅制度先是10%的基準關稅後來又針對60個國家徵收額外的對等關稅那台灣也被要求課徵32%那這個衝擊真的非常大\n64228\t87844\t雖然後來川普總統有馬上宣布暫緩要向各國來進行關稅的談判可是這個可以說是國難當頭我們不能不勝那4月11號是不是我方的經貿談判團隊有跟美方進行視訊會議是的那有沒有什麼具體的成果還是有談到哪一些部分嗎\n89144\t115195\t我們也很欣慰能夠在算是第一輪的開始我們在很優先的時間序上面跟美方就雙方的談判團隊進行視訊的會議那視訊談到的我們日前有向國人報告關於對等關稅非關稅貿易障礙以及出國管制在內的多項議題交換的意見但這是一個啟動未來我們會將更完善的備託所有\n115795\t142728\t全部的資料跟美方做下一波的一個談判那這個時間我們還在爭取最有利於我方的時間那有沒有談到一些軍國方面跟天然氣的採購方面我基於國際談判的慣例跟雙方的默契我們雙方同意就是對於對等關稅非關稅貿易障礙以及包括出國管制多項議題來做交換意見所以現在只能講一些大略的部分細節部分沒有辦法說明\n143550\t170646\t就談判的過程是如此我想請問一下因為這一部分在視訊會議我們這個談判的部分我們的學界跟專家都有提醒說美方可能會要求加碼買美債的持有甚至我們也看到我們執政黨立委也倡議說應該要擴大持有針對這一部分我們談判的代表裡面有央行的成員嗎\n171947\t190892\t事先的諮詢團隊都有事先諮詢團隊都有包括我們金融支持的各方的團隊都有因為我們也看到我們中央銀行總裁楊金龍總裁好像也對擴大持有我們也在這個建議他也說是非常好也可以對於跟美國談判的一個籌碼\n192847\t210735\t我們現在談判的態度就是我們採取任何議題都可以談但是我們基於國家最高的利益以及產業界能夠維持它的國際競爭力兩項原則跟美方做所有的接觸所以任何包括採購包括投資以及包括各種的合作案都可以談\n211294\t226426\t那你剛才談到的美債其實我方持有美國的美債也有相當大的數量那在這個時候一定是依照整個國際金融秩序以我們財政能力的規劃來做進一步的思考那美債這部分有談到嗎\n228279\t254142\t這個是我們在內部規劃會有這樣的準備但是談判的過程抱歉這個有列入選項不是我們很多的選項都列在裡面我剛才說採購也有投資也有還有這些談判到底關稅產業各項產業的關稅的稅率如果談判我們都有做準備這是我們備妥的方案但實際進到談判的桌上去談的我們還要進一步的去到了那個時間點才能跟對方來談\n255560\t278899\t好 那也希望能夠為我們台灣的經濟多幫忙一定 我們是以產業維持產業國際競爭力讓國內的產業能夠安定這個是最優先的一個考量好 那也提醒我們行政院其實在川普宣布對等關稅措施的前三天3月31號我們有看到美國貿易代表署有提交2025對外貿易障礙評估報告那點名對我國\n284997\t301977\t美豬牛馬鈴薯稻米基改食品等限制為不必要的貿易障礙要求我國來調整那請問院長針對美豬美牛進一步的開放還有美國稻米的關稅調漲或者擴大配合這一部分\n304321\t330159\t照院長剛剛這樣講應該也有可能是成為談判的籌碼之一喔我想每個國家不論他是在工業或農業都有屬於自己國家的敏感的產業敏感的產品他都會基於保護這敏感產品用國家的角度來思考每個國家都是這樣子那我們跟美方因為我們在去年我們對美方的輸出是比較多造成逆差比美方 美國的逆差比較大\n330700\t348179\t所以他會要求我們盡量在平衡這個逆差裡面那我們採行的方法會用大的投資大的採購來平衡這個貿易那至於這些比較敏感的產品我想是基於雙方共同的利益我們就不分工業部門或是農業部門會進行各個產業不同的評估那當然農業\n349904\t368104\t漁民 農民是我們要優先保護的對象我想這個委員您放心國內也放心我們一定站在這個原則上為什麼說要提醒院長因為我們賴總統有在彭國社來表示他會致力於排除非關稅貿易障礙向美豬美牛進一步開放等等\n368824\t389616\t這些就是美方最關注的非關稅貿易障礙所以我也希望院長能夠注意我們賴總統有在彭博社曾經有表示過這個意見要排除非關稅貿易障礙的品項非常的複雜但是一定要有排除的依據我們的依據就是如果符合國際貿易秩序也有國際的標準\n391224\t399077\t從此他有科學的證據那都是可以在談判說來談的但是保護農運民的權益優先這個還是我方基本態度\n399605\t427211\t因為現在大家也很擔心那個美國稻米零關稅的問題像白米炸彈客楊如門他就有講如果美國廉價米零關稅來開放就是崩盤失業滅龍的三連擊那我們養豬協會也提醒如果豬肉產地標示這個法規一定要守住如果消費者沒有辦法辨識產地那我們說想要支持台灣豬肉\n428251\t434736\t真的沒有辦法 這絕對對國內的豬肉的產業會造成很大的衝擊楊先生過去對台灣農業以及是稻農的這些\n439966\t464760\t用心的支持我們都肯定我也看到了他最近的這個文章在當天我就請部長一定要設法能夠去進行說明溝通甚至詢問意見那不是請部長能夠說明這個過程好我跟委員說明就是剛才委員所提到的現在目前在貿易清單裡面的一些品項那農業部因為我們跟美國基本上是逆差的部分那這個部分我們會先跟美國積極的說明\n466841\t485629\t針對一些國內必須去保護不是保護 就是說去支持的我想農業部基本上因為我們農業肩負了糧食安全的責任像您說的稻米的部分還有一些本身的肉類 禽類的部分這個都是我們糧食安全必須要守住的部分所以我們未來在處理這個議題的時候\n487089\t500455\t我們一定是要確保我們產業的競爭力同時穩定我們產業的永續發展更重要的是我們會保障我們的農民漁民的權益用這三個原則我們才會去處理後續的這些相關的一個談判議題\n501736\t529214\t對啊因為這個豬跟牛還有稻米是我們民眾真的還有各個豬農牛農稻農最特別關心的一個問題那我們了解目前我們針對加徵關稅蘭花 茶 毛豆還有出口魚類我們好像已經有開始做產業衝擊座談可是我們對於美方點名的非貿易障礙豬跟牛稻米好像還沒有開始開這個座談是不是\n530845\t537489\t我跟委員報告就是我們現在跟業者座談是針對美方提高關稅本來是30後來是暫緩90天用10%的情況之下我們跟農業民去\n544400\t569516\t告訴他們我們政府所提出來的這個支持方案同時也聽我們產業的一些意見來滾動檢討我們的支持方案那至於您剛才說的這些關稅的這些談判的部分那現在目前所有的議題都在準備當中我們並沒有說要把農業的議題推到第一線去跟美方談我們絕對不會犧牲了農民的權益當作一個籌碼\n570714\t588788\t好 當然我們也是今天會提出來就是害怕影響到他們的權益那當然因為我也知道這個談判過程就像院長剛剛講很多的選項裡面就是希望有利於這個談判那當然如果談判這個過程中能夠不讓步那當然我們希望能夠保護我們這些農民豬農 牛農 稻農等等\n591730\t607802\t但是如果真的談判的過程美方強烈的要求如果我們行政院真的會有讓步的話我覺得也要在這之前要向農友進行農產的座談還有相關的配套措施這部分可以嗎\n608966\t637038\t跟委員報告整個我們談判團隊啊內容準備的相當的完備啊無論是工業或是農業各方面那我們也想到說在談判的過程當中當然是爭取最大的利益啊但是如果說雙方在談判的過程一定是互有進有進有退嘛那我們基本的原則一定要守住但是可以在跟他細節上面做談判的時候必到了一定成熟\n637540\t664177\t要跟國人報告我們一定隨時準備好向國人清楚的說明當然我們是希望這部分我們能夠堅守我們的原則希望像尤其豬肉的部分我覺得產地的標示我們真的應該是不能退讓因為我們這要保護我們的豬農像本席的選區桃園沿海跟陽梅這些他們講他們這邊的豬比人還多所以表示\n664617\t686703\t他們這些豬農他們這個豬肉產業在我們地方佔有非常重要的地位所以我們希望說當然能夠堅持一定要堅持但是如果真的談判過程中有困難的時候一定要先跟我們農友進行產業溝通相關的配套措施一定要完善不能讓損失到我們這些農民的權益\n687751\t714477\t是的 所以我們事先準備了這些支持方案我想農業部已經有相當詳細的規劃在裡面我跟委員報告台灣的豬肉自給率大概將近88到90而且我們台灣的豬肉是用溫體屠宰的方式所以請您相信我們台灣的豬肉在國人的心中是第一個優先選擇的部分那過往的豬肉其實其他的國家都有進口那這個進口的燉素裡面其實都是不同的國家在替換\n715157\t742169\t但是還是回歸一句所有的豬肉豬肉的部分跟雞肉的部分我想我們還是會確保農民的收益為前提之下才去考量後續的問題因為我們是擔心豬肉到時候沒有標示這個產地勢必對台灣豬農這個豬肉產業一定會造成很大的衝擊這一部分繼續努力請問一下我們院長跟我們經濟部長我們是不是沒有針對\n743630\t770827\t服務貿易這一方面來做統計數字因為根據我們貿易法的明文貿易我們是直指貨幣貿易那所以我們在經濟部國貿署這一部分服務貿易統計資料是不是沒有好像只有美方才有報告委員我想服務貿易的這個數字我們應該是持有的我們是有這樣數字但是問題這個不在關稅的範圍之內\n773513\t785925\t那我們查得到嗎我們有這個統計的資料嗎我們要我們如果要去搜尋這些資料應該是可以搜尋得到不是我的意思是說沒有辦法作為我是說沒有做統計嘛這部分我們\n787266\t803711\t國貿署是沒有做這方面的統計資料嗎國貿署都是會有所有的國內的這個變動都有這些數字因為我會提出來就是說發現我們對美的服務貿易有往來只有美方的統計數字那服務貿易你看它\n804704\t816179\t涵蓋的很廣臉書 Google Netflix這些公司在台灣的服務貿易的收入美方統計2024年100多億台幣3.86億美金但是我們覺得這個數字其實一定是遠遠被低估\n823513\t847560\t那不知道部長對這一方面所以我說我們都沒有做這個統計資料那因為根據我們查的資料顯示你看《紐約時報》報導美國服務貿易順差接近3000億美元約新台幣9.9兆那其中大部分的服務都從金融服務到雲端運算都是透過數位方式交付那NAFI在全球營收達到390億美元\n851081\t869670\t他的淨利就達87.1美元那Google的母公司Alphabet在2024年的全球營收達到3500億美元那這些數字可以看得到美國在數位服務貿易這方面真的是全球賺飽飽所以\n872008\t887016\t我們桃園市市長張三振那時候有提到川普在這一方面他完全不提Google臉書在全球賺大錢的事情那我們這個服務貿易這部分是不是一樣也可以做成我們的談判籌碼跟委員報告這個服務產業的\n894215\t923018\t面非常的廣 項目非常的多其實我們跟美方就服務業的這種互相往來的進進出出數字他呈現一個不是很穩定的數字幾年下來都這樣有時候我們會有一些增加那這個在這一次的關稅的新政策當中並沒有列入因為他變成一個不是穩定的一個狀態這個我們在財政部啊他曾經有過相類似的一些評估出現那這個我們因為現在不在\n923738\t949109\t不列入到跟他談判的過程當中對啊 我是建議啊因為也不能說美方都找他自己對他有利的條件你看這服務貿易我們我們這個這部分喔對美國服務貿易這個逆差非常非常的大我說這部分我們應該要做個統計數字應該也可以列入我們對美談判的籌碼這個統計數字我們有所以說剛委員說逆差非常大就是它呈現一個不穩定的狀態\n950540\t964729\t好我們是希望說這一部分也可以列入啦能夠增加我們對美的談判籌碼好那請我們兩位部長謝謝那請我們客委會主委我們谷主委麻煩請客委會備選\n982042\t991971\t好那谷主委那當然這部分首先先感謝我們客委會對於我們爭取桃園市政府對於我們\n993519\t1021182\t三個建設案的補助那因為其實本席的選區也是算是道地的算客家莊像陽梅新屋都有七成八成的客家人那針對這一部分像我們新屋圖書館還有客家文化館這一部分我們爭取經費也感謝客委會已經核定備查可是針對觀音輪坪文化景園區客庄共榮市義遊客廳工程\n1022283\t1038853\t聽說我們評審委員對這一部分好像意見有分歧好像經費上還沒有核定是嗎是是在我們審查的時候委員對於這一個計畫跟原來的目標客庄生活教育中心的主題比較\n1040189\t1055787\t不一致所以目前是沒有核定那這部分我覺得如果說有需要的話本系也可以幫忙出面協調因為這部分其實對於我們發展客家文化其實有很大的注意所以前面兩個案子感謝我們主委\n1056147\t1072763\t那這第三個案子對於我們像觀音輪瓶它也是典型的一個客家人的地方那這一部分也希望對於發展我們客家文化有所助益的部分希望我們客人會能夠來幫忙那有需要協調的部分本系也願意去跟大家來溝通協調\n1074651\t1084807\t是我們可以請同事再來瞭解看看地方上好謝謝主委那謝謝我們鼓主委請回那請我們交通部部長陳士凱陳部長請交通部備選\n1097523\t1113253\t好 那這一部分也感謝我們陳部長因為那時候在委員會質詢的時候我們針對國一交流道北出閘道的改善計畫還有國一幼師交流道南出閘道的改善計畫那這一部分\n1114173\t1139413\t也感謝我們高工局全力的配合也特地下鄉去跟我們鄉親說明這兩個交流道因為長期以來多年交通非常臃色的問題那這一部分三月底已經公告招標年底完工不知道這一部分現在進度是怎麼樣這個部分報告委員沒有問題目前正在招標作業當中我們還是預定今年年底要完工所以這一部分應該沒問題\n1141817\t1153996\t還有我們現在大家比較關注的就是我們國道1號陽頭段拓寬這部分的工程因為在地的鄉親就是希望能夠\n1155325\t1172291\t先規劃增設北出南入的閘道不要像之前我們舞陽高架做好之後後來多年以後有這個需求後來才去做這個閘道這變成二次施工也把這個時間拖得很長也讓我們在地的居民\n1173351\t1198451\t因為飽受這工程的困擾把這時間拖得更長所以我們希望在國道1號陽頭段拓寬的時候就能夠先把這北出南入的閘道增設的部分先來幫我們規劃納入好 這個部分我們跟市政府大家一起來研議看怎麼樣把它規劃進來好 這也順便跟我們部長提一下因為那個時候本來因為\n1199935\t1219714\t楊梅交流 楊梅休息站最近應該大家都應該比較有關注到因為在過年的時候才發生了死亡車禍那這個三年來它發生了十幾起而且造成七個人死亡尤其在這次過年特別的嚴重那當然也有很多\n1220325\t1238710\t民眾質疑就是說是不是因為它是原本的收費站去改成休息站所以是不是在設計規劃上有一些的問題希望能夠去做改善那當然我也希望說專業的單位去了解那當然我們那時候因為剛好要針對\n1240570\t1267157\t陽頭段的北出南入的閘道所以那時候本來因為休息站這個問題所以也有很多的地方的民意說是不是把這個休息站廢掉直接來做我們南入的閘道因為我們下去不到20公里就有一個湖口休息站是這部分可是好像這部分高工局交通部好像有點意見是不是這部分部長有掌握嗎\n1268053\t1286838\t報告委員因為這個休息站比較特殊這個休息站是給高架路段在使用的未來我們高架路段還會再做延伸所以以長途來講那邊是有需要做休息站當時也是因為原本沒做後來因為有這個需求才大家爭取去做了這個休息站\n1287658\t1316808\t那這個休息站建置的過程當中當然一切都是依我們的安全法規去設定的所以安全上的設定應該是都沒有問題不然高工局不會來做這個休息站好 沒關係因為時間的問題那目前我們是因為高工局有提出這個意見那後來也請交通局針對這一部分不然就是希望規劃做一個變道就能夠解決南入這個問題因為現在北出的問題已經解決了已經找到地方\n1317248\t1332727\t像南路的部分後來那天我們有下去考察那就是說希望交通局先提出可行性評估希望做個變道對 由市政府先提出可行性評估對 那這部分我們也希望部長到時候能夠來幫我們支持還有我們\n1334008\t1359602\t下一個就是我們之前在委員會也有提楊梅秀才路178巷它是一個縣道可是它是銜接台一線那時候我們有提出希望納入第三期的審改計畫裡面可是後來我們發現這個審改計畫好像說行政院到現在都還沒有核定我們經費已經通過可是這個計畫沒有核定是現在有什麼問題嗎\n1361950\t1379425\t報告這個行政院已經在應該上個月吧上個月已經核定已經核定了是嗎因為我們那時候計畫一直要送可是一直說行政院還沒有核定所以這計畫一直卡在那邊那也感謝院長那這個核定那我們就可以開始進行了還有剛好\n1384042\t1403901\t我們省道陽梅區在上個禮拜上個禮拜剛好我們在桃園陽梅的區段下起了大好雨當然我們也知道瞬間的大好雨有時候排水的問題沒有辦法解決可是後來民眾反映他是說主要是因為很多的排水口\n1404542\t1425935\t沒有清空導致你看這個畫面它下雨它水根本就排不下去並不是說當然瞬間好大雨無法馬上排走沒有問題可是它基本上是因為它的排水口阻塞所以今天要提出來的部分就是說新建的部分我們要做可是像我們台一線\n1426995\t1441923\t縱灌入這些是不是在颱風季節來臨的前夕是不是能夠做個清查針對很多的排水孔還有一些阻塞的部分應該做個清查不然造成這個淹水影響我們民眾財產的損失跟安全上的問題\n1443459\t1465964\t報告委員我們會請公路局針對我們所有的省道、轄管的省道在汛期來臨之前的所有的這個清書的部分我們先來做好這部分請部長來多關心一下因為這個颱風季即將來臨希望能夠做個總體檢來檢查一下好謝謝我們部長那這部分還是不好意思請一下我們農業部的陳部長麻煩請農業部備詢\n1471428\t1490097\t因為我們部長我們在113年我們針對農機補助在2月就公告3月到4月就開始來實施第一階段申請從3月到4月底就開始申請可是這部分為什麼到現在還沒有公告農民就很恐慌為什麼農機補助到現在還沒有公告\n1492069\t1510447\t我跟委員報告在前幾年的部分我們農機大概一年用大概23億的一個補助額度那都是先申請先營那這樣子因為有的產業他可能是在冬季才需要所以他購買的時候會在冬季所以我們這一兩年已經\n1511388\t1533375\t分為三個時期來接受申請跟接受它的一個審核所以才會有一些就是說每三個月我們會有一個公告然後再審查再公告再審查有一些時間的落差那現在什麼時候可以開始公告我這個部分我詳細的部分我回去問一下以後再跟委員回覆\n1534522\t1557553\t對 這請部長多幫忙喔因為這個農基補助他們每年像這個時候都已經開始申請3月1號就開始申請每年都是這樣那只有到今年到現在農基補助那我們看這個經費也沒有問題啊他這個經費就是農業的特別收入基金向下的農村再生基金現在是我們的申請跟審查我們有分階段不是\n1558615\t1580228\t往年一開始申請然後全部完了以後就開始審查我們有分階段讓不同的季節跟不同產業的農民那部長這一部分再幫我們加快一下因為很多農民在反映了解好謝謝部長那這一部分再請我們工程會門陳金德陳主委麻煩請工程會備選好那爭取時間那\n1588476\t1600923\t院長還有陳主委這一部分要幫我們航空城的徵收戶來請命那為什麼找陳主委因為在今年二月陳主委以政務員的身份有主持我們航空城的專案小組會議對吧那當時會中\n1604565\t1619565\t我們主委有指示配合街廓點交跟安置住宅陸續完工要讓徵收戶可以重建家園 成構住宅而且要在明年底前完成先建後遷讓我們桃園機場第三跑道可以順利推進可是現在\n1621767\t1648075\t針對這部分承購住宅部分的問題很多安置物既有的補償費不足以支付完整的購物費用現在在尋求我們貸款融資可是去年開始不動產融資政策緊縮雖然您有指示中央銀行跟金管會放寬貸款跟乘數的限制也讓他們優先核貸可是目前他們說\n1649275\t1670914\t他們到各個八大公股銀行這些去好像還是一樣沒有辦法能夠順利的貸款報告委員 這個我們有請中央銀行還有各金融機構有請他們能夠特別來考量但是目前的做法大概都是一致的\n1671854\t1687496\t那這部分因為成構住宅的部分事實上加上補助這部分的金額比一般住宅事實上是便宜很多那我們會盡量就個案來跟相關的銀行來\n1689399\t1705012\t來請求協助因為希望這部分能夠趕快協助因為他們在114年8月有一個15%的加速開發獎勵金可是你現在這個錢他帶不下他根本沒有錢買沒有錢去裝潢這些東西都不能去做然後\n1705532\t1723101\t又限期他在八月一定要搬遷過去房子都沒好他怎麼搬遷過去然後他過了時間獎勵金又領不到所以這部分有時效的問題希望我們針對貸款的部分給他們盡量協助那當然還有像我們安置街坑的徵售戶一樣\n1723661\t1752881\t他在明年二月底前完成二樓樓地板的勘驗好才能領取安置接擴重建協助金可是現在他們也面臨這個問題針對台水台電這個臨時水電的接管一方面人力不足還有這個臨時用電用水這個金額申請的這些費用都非常的高昂不知道有沒有能夠解決的方法公用設施的部分水電這個都已經完成了\n1753861\t1774484\t那主要是臺灣市政府針對這麼多戶他的那個建造的申請也好或者是始造的勘驗也好他必須加快速度那至於完成二樓的樓地碼面積的獎金那這個都已經之前就已經公告了所以時間沒有辦法再演\n1775287\t1798095\t好沒關係但是你其他的部分要幫他解決他才有辦法去處理好那這部分提出來就是因為他們已經面臨到這個問題還有就是院長也在這邊那一天我們東龍凱悅也是航空城徵收戶這部分他們因為中央法規的限制還有國土署法規上要去尋求解套\n1798975\t1816109\t變成說他們現在想要納入結果遭受到很多的問題所以這部分先提出來希望院長到時候能夠重視是不是在法規上能夠給他解套或者民航局能夠提供更好的交通噪音排水等配套讓他們來解決那這部分問題我們在下個禮拜應該我會來\n1822354\t1836922\t開一個公聽說明會希望我們院長跟部長我們各部會相關的能夠來解決我們航空城徵收戶這一系列的問題能夠幫他們獲得改善解決他們的問題再請陳書偉收集各方的意見\n1847878\t1852249\t好,谢谢图轩基委员的资讯,谢谢卓院长、各部会首长的备询,谢谢。\n","txt":"好謝謝主席喔那請我們卓永泰卓院長還有我們農業部陳俊濟部長還有我們郭志輝經濟部長謝謝麻煩請卓院長經濟部農業部備選杜委員好好院長部長好喔那\n我們4月2號美東時間開始我們全球經濟面對大動盪那美國總統川普也宣布那一天為解放日也公布一項全新的我們雙層的關稅制度先是10%的基準關稅後來又針對60個國家徵收額外的對等關稅那台灣也被要求課徵32%那這個衝擊真的非常大\n雖然後來川普總統有馬上宣布暫緩要向各國來進行關稅的談判可是這個可以說是國難當頭我們不能不勝那4月11號是不是我方的經貿談判團隊有跟美方進行視訊會議是的那有沒有什麼具體的成果還是有談到哪一些部分嗎\n我們也很欣慰能夠在算是第一輪的開始我們在很優先的時間序上面跟美方就雙方的談判團隊進行視訊的會議那視訊談到的我們日前有向國人報告關於對等關稅非關稅貿易障礙以及出國管制在內的多項議題交換的意見但這是一個啟動未來我們會將更完善的備託所有\n全部的資料跟美方做下一波的一個談判那這個時間我們還在爭取最有利於我方的時間那有沒有談到一些軍國方面跟天然氣的採購方面我基於國際談判的慣例跟雙方的默契我們雙方同意就是對於對等關稅非關稅貿易障礙以及包括出國管制多項議題來做交換意見所以現在只能講一些大略的部分細節部分沒有辦法說明\n就談判的過程是如此我想請問一下因為這一部分在視訊會議我們這個談判的部分我們的學界跟專家都有提醒說美方可能會要求加碼買美債的持有甚至我們也看到我們執政黨立委也倡議說應該要擴大持有針對這一部分我們談判的代表裡面有央行的成員嗎\n事先的諮詢團隊都有事先諮詢團隊都有包括我們金融支持的各方的團隊都有因為我們也看到我們中央銀行總裁楊金龍總裁好像也對擴大持有我們也在這個建議他也說是非常好也可以對於跟美國談判的一個籌碼\n我們現在談判的態度就是我們採取任何議題都可以談但是我們基於國家最高的利益以及產業界能夠維持它的國際競爭力兩項原則跟美方做所有的接觸所以任何包括採購包括投資以及包括各種的合作案都可以談\n那你剛才談到的美債其實我方持有美國的美債也有相當大的數量那在這個時候一定是依照整個國際金融秩序以我們財政能力的規劃來做進一步的思考那美債這部分有談到嗎\n這個是我們在內部規劃會有這樣的準備但是談判的過程抱歉這個有列入選項不是我們很多的選項都列在裡面我剛才說採購也有投資也有還有這些談判到底關稅產業各項產業的關稅的稅率如果談判我們都有做準備這是我們備妥的方案但實際進到談判的桌上去談的我們還要進一步的去到了那個時間點才能跟對方來談\n好 那也希望能夠為我們台灣的經濟多幫忙一定 我們是以產業維持產業國際競爭力讓國內的產業能夠安定這個是最優先的一個考量好 那也提醒我們行政院其實在川普宣布對等關稅措施的前三天3月31號我們有看到美國貿易代表署有提交2025對外貿易障礙評估報告那點名對我國\n美豬牛馬鈴薯稻米基改食品等限制為不必要的貿易障礙要求我國來調整那請問院長針對美豬美牛進一步的開放還有美國稻米的關稅調漲或者擴大配合這一部分\n照院長剛剛這樣講應該也有可能是成為談判的籌碼之一喔我想每個國家不論他是在工業或農業都有屬於自己國家的敏感的產業敏感的產品他都會基於保護這敏感產品用國家的角度來思考每個國家都是這樣子那我們跟美方因為我們在去年我們對美方的輸出是比較多造成逆差比美方 美國的逆差比較大\n所以他會要求我們盡量在平衡這個逆差裡面那我們採行的方法會用大的投資大的採購來平衡這個貿易那至於這些比較敏感的產品我想是基於雙方共同的利益我們就不分工業部門或是農業部門會進行各個產業不同的評估那當然農業\n漁民 農民是我們要優先保護的對象我想這個委員您放心國內也放心我們一定站在這個原則上為什麼說要提醒院長因為我們賴總統有在彭國社來表示他會致力於排除非關稅貿易障礙向美豬美牛進一步開放等等\n這些就是美方最關注的非關稅貿易障礙所以我也希望院長能夠注意我們賴總統有在彭博社曾經有表示過這個意見要排除非關稅貿易障礙的品項非常的複雜但是一定要有排除的依據我們的依據就是如果符合國際貿易秩序也有國際的標準\n從此他有科學的證據那都是可以在談判說來談的但是保護農運民的權益優先這個還是我方基本態度\n因為現在大家也很擔心那個美國稻米零關稅的問題像白米炸彈客楊如門他就有講如果美國廉價米零關稅來開放就是崩盤失業滅龍的三連擊那我們養豬協會也提醒如果豬肉產地標示這個法規一定要守住如果消費者沒有辦法辨識產地那我們說想要支持台灣豬肉\n真的沒有辦法 這絕對對國內的豬肉的產業會造成很大的衝擊楊先生過去對台灣農業以及是稻農的這些\n用心的支持我們都肯定我也看到了他最近的這個文章在當天我就請部長一定要設法能夠去進行說明溝通甚至詢問意見那不是請部長能夠說明這個過程好我跟委員說明就是剛才委員所提到的現在目前在貿易清單裡面的一些品項那農業部因為我們跟美國基本上是逆差的部分那這個部分我們會先跟美國積極的說明\n針對一些國內必須去保護不是保護 就是說去支持的我想農業部基本上因為我們農業肩負了糧食安全的責任像您說的稻米的部分還有一些本身的肉類 禽類的部分這個都是我們糧食安全必須要守住的部分所以我們未來在處理這個議題的時候\n我們一定是要確保我們產業的競爭力同時穩定我們產業的永續發展更重要的是我們會保障我們的農民漁民的權益用這三個原則我們才會去處理後續的這些相關的一個談判議題\n對啊因為這個豬跟牛還有稻米是我們民眾真的還有各個豬農牛農稻農最特別關心的一個問題那我們了解目前我們針對加徵關稅蘭花 茶 毛豆還有出口魚類我們好像已經有開始做產業衝擊座談可是我們對於美方點名的非貿易障礙豬跟牛稻米好像還沒有開始開這個座談是不是\n我跟委員報告就是我們現在跟業者座談是針對美方提高關稅本來是30後來是暫緩90天用10%的情況之下我們跟農業民去\n告訴他們我們政府所提出來的這個支持方案同時也聽我們產業的一些意見來滾動檢討我們的支持方案那至於您剛才說的這些關稅的這些談判的部分那現在目前所有的議題都在準備當中我們並沒有說要把農業的議題推到第一線去跟美方談我們絕對不會犧牲了農民的權益當作一個籌碼\n好 當然我們也是今天會提出來就是害怕影響到他們的權益那當然因為我也知道這個談判過程就像院長剛剛講很多的選項裡面就是希望有利於這個談判那當然如果談判這個過程中能夠不讓步那當然我們希望能夠保護我們這些農民豬農 牛農 稻農等等\n但是如果真的談判的過程美方強烈的要求如果我們行政院真的會有讓步的話我覺得也要在這之前要向農友進行農產的座談還有相關的配套措施這部分可以嗎\n跟委員報告整個我們談判團隊啊內容準備的相當的完備啊無論是工業或是農業各方面那我們也想到說在談判的過程當中當然是爭取最大的利益啊但是如果說雙方在談判的過程一定是互有進有進有退嘛那我們基本的原則一定要守住但是可以在跟他細節上面做談判的時候必到了一定成熟\n要跟國人報告我們一定隨時準備好向國人清楚的說明當然我們是希望這部分我們能夠堅守我們的原則希望像尤其豬肉的部分我覺得產地的標示我們真的應該是不能退讓因為我們這要保護我們的豬農像本席的選區桃園沿海跟陽梅這些他們講他們這邊的豬比人還多所以表示\n他們這些豬農他們這個豬肉產業在我們地方佔有非常重要的地位所以我們希望說當然能夠堅持一定要堅持但是如果真的談判過程中有困難的時候一定要先跟我們農友進行產業溝通相關的配套措施一定要完善不能讓損失到我們這些農民的權益\n是的 所以我們事先準備了這些支持方案我想農業部已經有相當詳細的規劃在裡面我跟委員報告台灣的豬肉自給率大概將近88到90而且我們台灣的豬肉是用溫體屠宰的方式所以請您相信我們台灣的豬肉在國人的心中是第一個優先選擇的部分那過往的豬肉其實其他的國家都有進口那這個進口的燉素裡面其實都是不同的國家在替換\n但是還是回歸一句所有的豬肉豬肉的部分跟雞肉的部分我想我們還是會確保農民的收益為前提之下才去考量後續的問題因為我們是擔心豬肉到時候沒有標示這個產地勢必對台灣豬農這個豬肉產業一定會造成很大的衝擊這一部分繼續努力請問一下我們院長跟我們經濟部長我們是不是沒有針對\n服務貿易這一方面來做統計數字因為根據我們貿易法的明文貿易我們是直指貨幣貿易那所以我們在經濟部國貿署這一部分服務貿易統計資料是不是沒有好像只有美方才有報告委員我想服務貿易的這個數字我們應該是持有的我們是有這樣數字但是問題這個不在關稅的範圍之內\n那我們查得到嗎我們有這個統計的資料嗎我們要我們如果要去搜尋這些資料應該是可以搜尋得到不是我的意思是說沒有辦法作為我是說沒有做統計嘛這部分我們\n國貿署是沒有做這方面的統計資料嗎國貿署都是會有所有的國內的這個變動都有這些數字因為我會提出來就是說發現我們對美的服務貿易有往來只有美方的統計數字那服務貿易你看它\n涵蓋的很廣臉書 Google Netflix這些公司在台灣的服務貿易的收入美方統計2024年100多億台幣3.86億美金但是我們覺得這個數字其實一定是遠遠被低估\n那不知道部長對這一方面所以我說我們都沒有做這個統計資料那因為根據我們查的資料顯示你看《紐約時報》報導美國服務貿易順差接近3000億美元約新台幣9.9兆那其中大部分的服務都從金融服務到雲端運算都是透過數位方式交付那NAFI在全球營收達到390億美元\n他的淨利就達87.1美元那Google的母公司Alphabet在2024年的全球營收達到3500億美元那這些數字可以看得到美國在數位服務貿易這方面真的是全球賺飽飽所以\n我們桃園市市長張三振那時候有提到川普在這一方面他完全不提Google臉書在全球賺大錢的事情那我們這個服務貿易這部分是不是一樣也可以做成我們的談判籌碼跟委員報告這個服務產業的\n面非常的廣 項目非常的多其實我們跟美方就服務業的這種互相往來的進進出出數字他呈現一個不是很穩定的數字幾年下來都這樣有時候我們會有一些增加那這個在這一次的關稅的新政策當中並沒有列入因為他變成一個不是穩定的一個狀態這個我們在財政部啊他曾經有過相類似的一些評估出現那這個我們因為現在不在\n不列入到跟他談判的過程當中對啊 我是建議啊因為也不能說美方都找他自己對他有利的條件你看這服務貿易我們我們這個這部分喔對美國服務貿易這個逆差非常非常的大我說這部分我們應該要做個統計數字應該也可以列入我們對美談判的籌碼這個統計數字我們有所以說剛委員說逆差非常大就是它呈現一個不穩定的狀態\n好我們是希望說這一部分也可以列入啦能夠增加我們對美的談判籌碼好那請我們兩位部長謝謝那請我們客委會主委我們谷主委麻煩請客委會備選\n好那谷主委那當然這部分首先先感謝我們客委會對於我們爭取桃園市政府對於我們\n三個建設案的補助那因為其實本席的選區也是算是道地的算客家莊像陽梅新屋都有七成八成的客家人那針對這一部分像我們新屋圖書館還有客家文化館這一部分我們爭取經費也感謝客委會已經核定備查可是針對觀音輪坪文化景園區客庄共榮市義遊客廳工程\n聽說我們評審委員對這一部分好像意見有分歧好像經費上還沒有核定是嗎是是在我們審查的時候委員對於這一個計畫跟原來的目標客庄生活教育中心的主題比較\n不一致所以目前是沒有核定那這部分我覺得如果說有需要的話本系也可以幫忙出面協調因為這部分其實對於我們發展客家文化其實有很大的注意所以前面兩個案子感謝我們主委\n那這第三個案子對於我們像觀音輪瓶它也是典型的一個客家人的地方那這一部分也希望對於發展我們客家文化有所助益的部分希望我們客人會能夠來幫忙那有需要協調的部分本系也願意去跟大家來溝通協調\n是我們可以請同事再來瞭解看看地方上好謝謝主委那謝謝我們鼓主委請回那請我們交通部部長陳士凱陳部長請交通部備選\n好 那這一部分也感謝我們陳部長因為那時候在委員會質詢的時候我們針對國一交流道北出閘道的改善計畫還有國一幼師交流道南出閘道的改善計畫那這一部分\n也感謝我們高工局全力的配合也特地下鄉去跟我們鄉親說明這兩個交流道因為長期以來多年交通非常臃色的問題那這一部分三月底已經公告招標年底完工不知道這一部分現在進度是怎麼樣這個部分報告委員沒有問題目前正在招標作業當中我們還是預定今年年底要完工所以這一部分應該沒問題\n還有我們現在大家比較關注的就是我們國道1號陽頭段拓寬這部分的工程因為在地的鄉親就是希望能夠\n先規劃增設北出南入的閘道不要像之前我們舞陽高架做好之後後來多年以後有這個需求後來才去做這個閘道這變成二次施工也把這個時間拖得很長也讓我們在地的居民\n因為飽受這工程的困擾把這時間拖得更長所以我們希望在國道1號陽頭段拓寬的時候就能夠先把這北出南入的閘道增設的部分先來幫我們規劃納入好 這個部分我們跟市政府大家一起來研議看怎麼樣把它規劃進來好 這也順便跟我們部長提一下因為那個時候本來因為\n楊梅交流 楊梅休息站最近應該大家都應該比較有關注到因為在過年的時候才發生了死亡車禍那這個三年來它發生了十幾起而且造成七個人死亡尤其在這次過年特別的嚴重那當然也有很多\n民眾質疑就是說是不是因為它是原本的收費站去改成休息站所以是不是在設計規劃上有一些的問題希望能夠去做改善那當然我也希望說專業的單位去了解那當然我們那時候因為剛好要針對\n陽頭段的北出南入的閘道所以那時候本來因為休息站這個問題所以也有很多的地方的民意說是不是把這個休息站廢掉直接來做我們南入的閘道因為我們下去不到20公里就有一個湖口休息站是這部分可是好像這部分高工局交通部好像有點意見是不是這部分部長有掌握嗎\n報告委員因為這個休息站比較特殊這個休息站是給高架路段在使用的未來我們高架路段還會再做延伸所以以長途來講那邊是有需要做休息站當時也是因為原本沒做後來因為有這個需求才大家爭取去做了這個休息站\n那這個休息站建置的過程當中當然一切都是依我們的安全法規去設定的所以安全上的設定應該是都沒有問題不然高工局不會來做這個休息站好 沒關係因為時間的問題那目前我們是因為高工局有提出這個意見那後來也請交通局針對這一部分不然就是希望規劃做一個變道就能夠解決南入這個問題因為現在北出的問題已經解決了已經找到地方\n像南路的部分後來那天我們有下去考察那就是說希望交通局先提出可行性評估希望做個變道對 由市政府先提出可行性評估對 那這部分我們也希望部長到時候能夠來幫我們支持還有我們\n下一個就是我們之前在委員會也有提楊梅秀才路178巷它是一個縣道可是它是銜接台一線那時候我們有提出希望納入第三期的審改計畫裡面可是後來我們發現這個審改計畫好像說行政院到現在都還沒有核定我們經費已經通過可是這個計畫沒有核定是現在有什麼問題嗎\n報告這個行政院已經在應該上個月吧上個月已經核定已經核定了是嗎因為我們那時候計畫一直要送可是一直說行政院還沒有核定所以這計畫一直卡在那邊那也感謝院長那這個核定那我們就可以開始進行了還有剛好\n我們省道陽梅區在上個禮拜上個禮拜剛好我們在桃園陽梅的區段下起了大好雨當然我們也知道瞬間的大好雨有時候排水的問題沒有辦法解決可是後來民眾反映他是說主要是因為很多的排水口\n沒有清空導致你看這個畫面它下雨它水根本就排不下去並不是說當然瞬間好大雨無法馬上排走沒有問題可是它基本上是因為它的排水口阻塞所以今天要提出來的部分就是說新建的部分我們要做可是像我們台一線\n縱灌入這些是不是在颱風季節來臨的前夕是不是能夠做個清查針對很多的排水孔還有一些阻塞的部分應該做個清查不然造成這個淹水影響我們民眾財產的損失跟安全上的問題\n報告委員我們會請公路局針對我們所有的省道、轄管的省道在汛期來臨之前的所有的這個清書的部分我們先來做好這部分請部長來多關心一下因為這個颱風季即將來臨希望能夠做個總體檢來檢查一下好謝謝我們部長那這部分還是不好意思請一下我們農業部的陳部長麻煩請農業部備詢\n因為我們部長我們在113年我們針對農機補助在2月就公告3月到4月就開始來實施第一階段申請從3月到4月底就開始申請可是這部分為什麼到現在還沒有公告農民就很恐慌為什麼農機補助到現在還沒有公告\n我跟委員報告在前幾年的部分我們農機大概一年用大概23億的一個補助額度那都是先申請先營那這樣子因為有的產業他可能是在冬季才需要所以他購買的時候會在冬季所以我們這一兩年已經\n分為三個時期來接受申請跟接受它的一個審核所以才會有一些就是說每三個月我們會有一個公告然後再審查再公告再審查有一些時間的落差那現在什麼時候可以開始公告我這個部分我詳細的部分我回去問一下以後再跟委員回覆\n對 這請部長多幫忙喔因為這個農基補助他們每年像這個時候都已經開始申請3月1號就開始申請每年都是這樣那只有到今年到現在農基補助那我們看這個經費也沒有問題啊他這個經費就是農業的特別收入基金向下的農村再生基金現在是我們的申請跟審查我們有分階段不是\n往年一開始申請然後全部完了以後就開始審查我們有分階段讓不同的季節跟不同產業的農民那部長這一部分再幫我們加快一下因為很多農民在反映了解好謝謝部長那這一部分再請我們工程會門陳金德陳主委麻煩請工程會備選好那爭取時間那\n院長還有陳主委這一部分要幫我們航空城的徵收戶來請命那為什麼找陳主委因為在今年二月陳主委以政務員的身份有主持我們航空城的專案小組會議對吧那當時會中\n我們主委有指示配合街廓點交跟安置住宅陸續完工要讓徵收戶可以重建家園 成構住宅而且要在明年底前完成先建後遷讓我們桃園機場第三跑道可以順利推進可是現在\n針對這部分承購住宅部分的問題很多安置物既有的補償費不足以支付完整的購物費用現在在尋求我們貸款融資可是去年開始不動產融資政策緊縮雖然您有指示中央銀行跟金管會放寬貸款跟乘數的限制也讓他們優先核貸可是目前他們說\n他們到各個八大公股銀行這些去好像還是一樣沒有辦法能夠順利的貸款報告委員 這個我們有請中央銀行還有各金融機構有請他們能夠特別來考量但是目前的做法大概都是一致的\n那這部分因為成構住宅的部分事實上加上補助這部分的金額比一般住宅事實上是便宜很多那我們會盡量就個案來跟相關的銀行來\n來請求協助因為希望這部分能夠趕快協助因為他們在114年8月有一個15%的加速開發獎勵金可是你現在這個錢他帶不下他根本沒有錢買沒有錢去裝潢這些東西都不能去做然後\n又限期他在八月一定要搬遷過去房子都沒好他怎麼搬遷過去然後他過了時間獎勵金又領不到所以這部分有時效的問題希望我們針對貸款的部分給他們盡量協助那當然還有像我們安置街坑的徵售戶一樣\n他在明年二月底前完成二樓樓地板的勘驗好才能領取安置接擴重建協助金可是現在他們也面臨這個問題針對台水台電這個臨時水電的接管一方面人力不足還有這個臨時用電用水這個金額申請的這些費用都非常的高昂不知道有沒有能夠解決的方法公用設施的部分水電這個都已經完成了\n那主要是臺灣市政府針對這麼多戶他的那個建造的申請也好或者是始造的勘驗也好他必須加快速度那至於完成二樓的樓地碼面積的獎金那這個都已經之前就已經公告了所以時間沒有辦法再演\n好沒關係但是你其他的部分要幫他解決他才有辦法去處理好那這部分提出來就是因為他們已經面臨到這個問題還有就是院長也在這邊那一天我們東龍凱悅也是航空城徵收戶這部分他們因為中央法規的限制還有國土署法規上要去尋求解套\n變成說他們現在想要納入結果遭受到很多的問題所以這部分先提出來希望院長到時候能夠重視是不是在法規上能夠給他解套或者民航局能夠提供更好的交通噪音排水等配套讓他們來解決那這部分問題我們在下個禮拜應該我會來\n開一個公聽說明會希望我們院長跟部長我們各部會相關的能夠來解決我們航空城徵收戶這一系列的問題能夠幫他們獲得改善解決他們的問題再請陳書偉收集各方的意見\n好,谢谢图轩基委员的资讯,谢谢卓院长、各部会首长的备询,谢谢。\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:10.151 --> 00:21.138\n好謝謝主席喔那請我們卓永泰卓院長還有我們農業部陳俊濟部長還有我們郭志輝經濟部長謝謝麻煩請卓院長經濟部農業部備選杜委員好好院長部長好喔那\n\n00:38.019 --> 01:01.127\n我們4月2號美東時間開始我們全球經濟面對大動盪那美國總統川普也宣布那一天為解放日也公布一項全新的我們雙層的關稅制度先是10%的基準關稅後來又針對60個國家徵收額外的對等關稅那台灣也被要求課徵32%那這個衝擊真的非常大\n\n01:04.228 --> 01:27.844\n雖然後來川普總統有馬上宣布暫緩要向各國來進行關稅的談判可是這個可以說是國難當頭我們不能不勝那4月11號是不是我方的經貿談判團隊有跟美方進行視訊會議是的那有沒有什麼具體的成果還是有談到哪一些部分嗎\n\n01:29.144 --> 01:55.195\n我們也很欣慰能夠在算是第一輪的開始我們在很優先的時間序上面跟美方就雙方的談判團隊進行視訊的會議那視訊談到的我們日前有向國人報告關於對等關稅非關稅貿易障礙以及出國管制在內的多項議題交換的意見但這是一個啟動未來我們會將更完善的備託所有\n\n01:55.795 --> 02:22.728\n全部的資料跟美方做下一波的一個談判那這個時間我們還在爭取最有利於我方的時間那有沒有談到一些軍國方面跟天然氣的採購方面我基於國際談判的慣例跟雙方的默契我們雙方同意就是對於對等關稅非關稅貿易障礙以及包括出國管制多項議題來做交換意見所以現在只能講一些大略的部分細節部分沒有辦法說明\n\n02:23.550 --> 02:50.646\n就談判的過程是如此我想請問一下因為這一部分在視訊會議我們這個談判的部分我們的學界跟專家都有提醒說美方可能會要求加碼買美債的持有甚至我們也看到我們執政黨立委也倡議說應該要擴大持有針對這一部分我們談判的代表裡面有央行的成員嗎\n\n02:51.947 --> 03:10.892\n事先的諮詢團隊都有事先諮詢團隊都有包括我們金融支持的各方的團隊都有因為我們也看到我們中央銀行總裁楊金龍總裁好像也對擴大持有我們也在這個建議他也說是非常好也可以對於跟美國談判的一個籌碼\n\n03:12.847 --> 03:30.735\n我們現在談判的態度就是我們採取任何議題都可以談但是我們基於國家最高的利益以及產業界能夠維持它的國際競爭力兩項原則跟美方做所有的接觸所以任何包括採購包括投資以及包括各種的合作案都可以談\n\n03:31.294 --> 03:46.426\n那你剛才談到的美債其實我方持有美國的美債也有相當大的數量那在這個時候一定是依照整個國際金融秩序以我們財政能力的規劃來做進一步的思考那美債這部分有談到嗎\n\n03:48.279 --> 04:14.142\n這個是我們在內部規劃會有這樣的準備但是談判的過程抱歉這個有列入選項不是我們很多的選項都列在裡面我剛才說採購也有投資也有還有這些談判到底關稅產業各項產業的關稅的稅率如果談判我們都有做準備這是我們備妥的方案但實際進到談判的桌上去談的我們還要進一步的去到了那個時間點才能跟對方來談\n\n04:15.560 --> 04:38.899\n好那也希望能夠為我們台灣的經濟多幫忙一定我們是以產業維持產業國際競爭力讓國內的產業能夠安定這個是最優先的一個考量好那也提醒我們行政院其實在川普宣布對等關稅措施的前三天3月31號我們有看到美國貿易代表署有提交2025對外貿易障礙評估報告那點名對我國\n\n04:44.997 --> 05:01.977\n美豬牛馬鈴薯稻米基改食品等限制為不必要的貿易障礙要求我國來調整那請問院長針對美豬美牛進一步的開放還有美國稻米的關稅調漲或者擴大配合這一部分\n\n05:04.321 --> 05:30.159\n照院長剛剛這樣講應該也有可能是成為談判的籌碼之一喔我想每個國家不論他是在工業或農業都有屬於自己國家的敏感的產業敏感的產品他都會基於保護這敏感產品用國家的角度來思考每個國家都是這樣子那我們跟美方因為我們在去年我們對美方的輸出是比較多造成逆差比美方美國的逆差比較大\n\n05:30.700 --> 05:48.179\n所以他會要求我們盡量在平衡這個逆差裡面那我們採行的方法會用大的投資大的採購來平衡這個貿易那至於這些比較敏感的產品我想是基於雙方共同的利益我們就不分工業部門或是農業部門會進行各個產業不同的評估那當然農業\n\n05:49.904 --> 06:08.104\n漁民農民是我們要優先保護的對象我想這個委員您放心國內也放心我們一定站在這個原則上為什麼說要提醒院長因為我們賴總統有在彭國社來表示他會致力於排除非關稅貿易障礙向美豬美牛進一步開放等等\n\n06:08.824 --> 06:29.616\n這些就是美方最關注的非關稅貿易障礙所以我也希望院長能夠注意我們賴總統有在彭博社曾經有表示過這個意見要排除非關稅貿易障礙的品項非常的複雜但是一定要有排除的依據我們的依據就是如果符合國際貿易秩序也有國際的標準\n\n06:31.224 --> 06:39.077\n從此他有科學的證據那都是可以在談判說來談的但是保護農運民的權益優先這個還是我方基本態度\n\n06:39.605 --> 07:07.211\n因為現在大家也很擔心那個美國稻米零關稅的問題像白米炸彈客楊如門他就有講如果美國廉價米零關稅來開放就是崩盤失業滅龍的三連擊那我們養豬協會也提醒如果豬肉產地標示這個法規一定要守住如果消費者沒有辦法辨識產地那我們說想要支持台灣豬肉\n\n07:08.251 --> 07:14.736\n真的沒有辦法這絕對對國內的豬肉的產業會造成很大的衝擊楊先生過去對台灣農業以及是稻農的這些\n\n07:19.966 --> 07:44.760\n用心的支持我們都肯定我也看到了他最近的這個文章在當天我就請部長一定要設法能夠去進行說明溝通甚至詢問意見那不是請部長能夠說明這個過程好我跟委員說明就是剛才委員所提到的現在目前在貿易清單裡面的一些品項那農業部因為我們跟美國基本上是逆差的部分那這個部分我們會先跟美國積極的說明\n\n07:46.841 --> 08:05.629\n針對一些國內必須去保護不是保護就是說去支持的我想農業部基本上因為我們農業肩負了糧食安全的責任像您說的稻米的部分還有一些本身的肉類禽類的部分這個都是我們糧食安全必須要守住的部分所以我們未來在處理這個議題的時候\n\n08:07.089 --> 08:20.455\n我們一定是要確保我們產業的競爭力同時穩定我們產業的永續發展更重要的是我們會保障我們的農民漁民的權益用這三個原則我們才會去處理後續的這些相關的一個談判議題\n\n08:21.736 --> 08:49.214\n對啊因為這個豬跟牛還有稻米是我們民眾真的還有各個豬農牛農稻農最特別關心的一個問題那我們了解目前我們針對加徵關稅蘭花茶毛豆還有出口魚類我們好像已經有開始做產業衝擊座談可是我們對於美方點名的非貿易障礙豬跟牛稻米好像還沒有開始開這個座談是不是\n\n08:50.845 --> 08:57.489\n我跟委員報告就是我們現在跟業者座談是針對美方提高關稅本來是30後來是暫緩90天用10%的情況之下我們跟農業民去\n\n09:04.400 --> 09:29.516\n告訴他們我們政府所提出來的這個支持方案同時也聽我們產業的一些意見來滾動檢討我們的支持方案那至於您剛才說的這些關稅的這些談判的部分那現在目前所有的議題都在準備當中我們並沒有說要把農業的議題推到第一線去跟美方談我們絕對不會犧牲了農民的權益當作一個籌碼\n\n09:30.714 --> 09:48.788\n好當然我們也是今天會提出來就是害怕影響到他們的權益那當然因為我也知道這個談判過程就像院長剛剛講很多的選項裡面就是希望有利於這個談判那當然如果談判這個過程中能夠不讓步那當然我們希望能夠保護我們這些農民豬農牛農稻農等等\n\n09:51.730 --> 10:07.802\n但是如果真的談判的過程美方強烈的要求如果我們行政院真的會有讓步的話我覺得也要在這之前要向農友進行農產的座談還有相關的配套措施這部分可以嗎\n\n10:08.966 --> 10:37.038\n跟委員報告整個我們談判團隊啊內容準備的相當的完備啊無論是工業或是農業各方面那我們也想到說在談判的過程當中當然是爭取最大的利益啊但是如果說雙方在談判的過程一定是互有進有進有退嘛那我們基本的原則一定要守住但是可以在跟他細節上面做談判的時候必到了一定成熟\n\n10:37.540 --> 11:04.177\n要跟國人報告我們一定隨時準備好向國人清楚的說明當然我們是希望這部分我們能夠堅守我們的原則希望像尤其豬肉的部分我覺得產地的標示我們真的應該是不能退讓因為我們這要保護我們的豬農像本席的選區桃園沿海跟陽梅這些他們講他們這邊的豬比人還多所以表示\n\n11:04.617 --> 11:26.703\n他們這些豬農他們這個豬肉產業在我們地方佔有非常重要的地位所以我們希望說當然能夠堅持一定要堅持但是如果真的談判過程中有困難的時候一定要先跟我們農友進行產業溝通相關的配套措施一定要完善不能讓損失到我們這些農民的權益\n\n11:27.751 --> 11:54.477\n是的所以我們事先準備了這些支持方案我想農業部已經有相當詳細的規劃在裡面我跟委員報告台灣的豬肉自給率大概將近88到90而且我們台灣的豬肉是用溫體屠宰的方式所以請您相信我們台灣的豬肉在國人的心中是第一個優先選擇的部分那過往的豬肉其實其他的國家都有進口那這個進口的燉素裡面其實都是不同的國家在替換\n\n11:55.157 --> 12:22.169\n但是還是回歸一句所有的豬肉豬肉的部分跟雞肉的部分我想我們還是會確保農民的收益為前提之下才去考量後續的問題因為我們是擔心豬肉到時候沒有標示這個產地勢必對台灣豬農這個豬肉產業一定會造成很大的衝擊這一部分繼續努力請問一下我們院長跟我們經濟部長我們是不是沒有針對\n\n12:23.630 --> 12:50.827\n服務貿易這一方面來做統計數字因為根據我們貿易法的明文貿易我們是直指貨幣貿易那所以我們在經濟部國貿署這一部分服務貿易統計資料是不是沒有好像只有美方才有報告委員我想服務貿易的這個數字我們應該是持有的我們是有這樣數字但是問題這個不在關稅的範圍之內\n\n12:53.513 --> 13:05.925\n那我們查得到嗎我們有這個統計的資料嗎我們要我們如果要去搜尋這些資料應該是可以搜尋得到不是我的意思是說沒有辦法作為我是說沒有做統計嘛這部分我們\n\n13:07.266 --> 13:23.711\n國貿署是沒有做這方面的統計資料嗎國貿署都是會有所有的國內的這個變動都有這些數字因為我會提出來就是說發現我們對美的服務貿易有往來只有美方的統計數字那服務貿易你看它\n\n13:24.704 --> 13:36.179\n涵蓋的很廣臉書GoogleNetflix這些公司在台灣的服務貿易的收入美方統計2024年100多億台幣3.86億美金但是我們覺得這個數字其實一定是遠遠被低估\n\n13:43.513 --> 14:07.560\n那不知道部長對這一方面所以我說我們都沒有做這個統計資料那因為根據我們查的資料顯示你看《紐約時報》報導美國服務貿易順差接近3000億美元約新台幣9.9兆那其中大部分的服務都從金融服務到雲端運算都是透過數位方式交付那NAFI在全球營收達到390億美元\n\n14:11.081 --> 14:29.670\n他的淨利就達87.1美元那Google的母公司Alphabet在2024年的全球營收達到3500億美元那這些數字可以看得到美國在數位服務貿易這方面真的是全球賺飽飽所以\n\n14:32.008 --> 14:47.016\n我們桃園市市長張三振那時候有提到川普在這一方面他完全不提Google臉書在全球賺大錢的事情那我們這個服務貿易這部分是不是一樣也可以做成我們的談判籌碼跟委員報告這個服務產業的\n\n14:54.215 --> 15:23.018\n面非常的廣項目非常的多其實我們跟美方就服務業的這種互相往來的進進出出數字他呈現一個不是很穩定的數字幾年下來都這樣有時候我們會有一些增加那這個在這一次的關稅的新政策當中並沒有列入因為他變成一個不是穩定的一個狀態這個我們在財政部啊他曾經有過相類似的一些評估出現那這個我們因為現在不在\n\n15:23.738 --> 15:49.109\n不列入到跟他談判的過程當中對啊我是建議啊因為也不能說美方都找他自己對他有利的條件你看這服務貿易我們我們這個這部分喔對美國服務貿易這個逆差非常非常的大我說這部分我們應該要做個統計數字應該也可以列入我們對美談判的籌碼這個統計數字我們有所以說剛委員說逆差非常大就是它呈現一個不穩定的狀態\n\n15:50.540 --> 16:04.729\n好我們是希望說這一部分也可以列入啦能夠增加我們對美的談判籌碼好那請我們兩位部長謝謝那請我們客委會主委我們谷主委麻煩請客委會備選\n\n16:22.042 --> 16:31.971\n好那谷主委那當然這部分首先先感謝我們客委會對於我們爭取桃園市政府對於我們\n\n16:33.519 --> 17:01.182\n三個建設案的補助那因為其實本席的選區也是算是道地的算客家莊像陽梅新屋都有七成八成的客家人那針對這一部分像我們新屋圖書館還有客家文化館這一部分我們爭取經費也感謝客委會已經核定備查可是針對觀音輪坪文化景園區客庄共榮市義遊客廳工程\n\n17:02.283 --> 17:18.853\n聽說我們評審委員對這一部分好像意見有分歧好像經費上還沒有核定是嗎是是在我們審查的時候委員對於這一個計畫跟原來的目標客庄生活教育中心的主題比較\n\n17:20.189 --> 17:35.787\n不一致所以目前是沒有核定那這部分我覺得如果說有需要的話本系也可以幫忙出面協調因為這部分其實對於我們發展客家文化其實有很大的注意所以前面兩個案子感謝我們主委\n\n17:36.147 --> 17:52.763\n那這第三個案子對於我們像觀音輪瓶它也是典型的一個客家人的地方那這一部分也希望對於發展我們客家文化有所助益的部分希望我們客人會能夠來幫忙那有需要協調的部分本系也願意去跟大家來溝通協調\n\n17:54.651 --> 18:04.807\n是我們可以請同事再來瞭解看看地方上好謝謝主委那謝謝我們鼓主委請回那請我們交通部部長陳士凱陳部長請交通部備選\n\n18:17.523 --> 18:33.253\n好那這一部分也感謝我們陳部長因為那時候在委員會質詢的時候我們針對國一交流道北出閘道的改善計畫還有國一幼師交流道南出閘道的改善計畫那這一部分\n\n18:34.173 --> 18:59.413\n也感謝我們高工局全力的配合也特地下鄉去跟我們鄉親說明這兩個交流道因為長期以來多年交通非常臃色的問題那這一部分三月底已經公告招標年底完工不知道這一部分現在進度是怎麼樣這個部分報告委員沒有問題目前正在招標作業當中我們還是預定今年年底要完工所以這一部分應該沒問題\n\n19:01.817 --> 19:13.996\n還有我們現在大家比較關注的就是我們國道1號陽頭段拓寬這部分的工程因為在地的鄉親就是希望能夠\n\n19:15.325 --> 19:32.291\n先規劃增設北出南入的閘道不要像之前我們舞陽高架做好之後後來多年以後有這個需求後來才去做這個閘道這變成二次施工也把這個時間拖得很長也讓我們在地的居民\n\n19:33.351 --> 19:58.451\n因為飽受這工程的困擾把這時間拖得更長所以我們希望在國道1號陽頭段拓寬的時候就能夠先把這北出南入的閘道增設的部分先來幫我們規劃納入好這個部分我們跟市政府大家一起來研議看怎麼樣把它規劃進來好這也順便跟我們部長提一下因為那個時候本來因為\n\n19:59.935 --> 20:19.714\n楊梅交流楊梅休息站最近應該大家都應該比較有關注到因為在過年的時候才發生了死亡車禍那這個三年來它發生了十幾起而且造成七個人死亡尤其在這次過年特別的嚴重那當然也有很多\n\n20:20.325 --> 20:38.710\n民眾質疑就是說是不是因為它是原本的收費站去改成休息站所以是不是在設計規劃上有一些的問題希望能夠去做改善那當然我也希望說專業的單位去了解那當然我們那時候因為剛好要針對\n\n20:40.570 --> 21:07.157\n陽頭段的北出南入的閘道所以那時候本來因為休息站這個問題所以也有很多的地方的民意說是不是把這個休息站廢掉直接來做我們南入的閘道因為我們下去不到20公里就有一個湖口休息站是這部分可是好像這部分高工局交通部好像有點意見是不是這部分部長有掌握嗎\n\n21:08.053 --> 21:26.838\n報告委員因為這個休息站比較特殊這個休息站是給高架路段在使用的未來我們高架路段還會再做延伸所以以長途來講那邊是有需要做休息站當時也是因為原本沒做後來因為有這個需求才大家爭取去做了這個休息站\n\n21:27.658 --> 21:56.808\n那這個休息站建置的過程當中當然一切都是依我們的安全法規去設定的所以安全上的設定應該是都沒有問題不然高工局不會來做這個休息站好沒關係因為時間的問題那目前我們是因為高工局有提出這個意見那後來也請交通局針對這一部分不然就是希望規劃做一個變道就能夠解決南入這個問題因為現在北出的問題已經解決了已經找到地方\n\n21:57.248 --> 22:12.727\n像南路的部分後來那天我們有下去考察那就是說希望交通局先提出可行性評估希望做個變道對由市政府先提出可行性評估對那這部分我們也希望部長到時候能夠來幫我們支持還有我們\n\n22:14.008 --> 22:39.602\n下一個就是我們之前在委員會也有提楊梅秀才路178巷它是一個縣道可是它是銜接台一線那時候我們有提出希望納入第三期的審改計畫裡面可是後來我們發現這個審改計畫好像說行政院到現在都還沒有核定我們經費已經通過可是這個計畫沒有核定是現在有什麼問題嗎\n\n22:41.950 --> 22:59.425\n報告這個行政院已經在應該上個月吧上個月已經核定已經核定了是嗎因為我們那時候計畫一直要送可是一直說行政院還沒有核定所以這計畫一直卡在那邊那也感謝院長那這個核定那我們就可以開始進行了還有剛好\n\n23:04.042 --> 23:23.901\n我們省道陽梅區在上個禮拜上個禮拜剛好我們在桃園陽梅的區段下起了大好雨當然我們也知道瞬間的大好雨有時候排水的問題沒有辦法解決可是後來民眾反映他是說主要是因為很多的排水口\n\n23:24.542 --> 23:45.935\n沒有清空導致你看這個畫面它下雨它水根本就排不下去並不是說當然瞬間好大雨無法馬上排走沒有問題可是它基本上是因為它的排水口阻塞所以今天要提出來的部分就是說新建的部分我們要做可是像我們台一線\n\n23:46.995 --> 24:01.923\n縱灌入這些是不是在颱風季節來臨的前夕是不是能夠做個清查針對很多的排水孔還有一些阻塞的部分應該做個清查不然造成這個淹水影響我們民眾財產的損失跟安全上的問題\n\n24:03.459 --> 24:25.964\n報告委員我們會請公路局針對我們所有的省道、轄管的省道在汛期來臨之前的所有的這個清書的部分我們先來做好這部分請部長來多關心一下因為這個颱風季即將來臨希望能夠做個總體檢來檢查一下好謝謝我們部長那這部分還是不好意思請一下我們農業部的陳部長麻煩請農業部備詢\n\n24:31.428 --> 24:50.097\n因為我們部長我們在113年我們針對農機補助在2月就公告3月到4月就開始來實施第一階段申請從3月到4月底就開始申請可是這部分為什麼到現在還沒有公告農民就很恐慌為什麼農機補助到現在還沒有公告\n\n24:52.069 --> 25:10.447\n我跟委員報告在前幾年的部分我們農機大概一年用大概23億的一個補助額度那都是先申請先營那這樣子因為有的產業他可能是在冬季才需要所以他購買的時候會在冬季所以我們這一兩年已經\n\n25:11.388 --> 25:33.375\n分為三個時期來接受申請跟接受它的一個審核所以才會有一些就是說每三個月我們會有一個公告然後再審查再公告再審查有一些時間的落差那現在什麼時候可以開始公告我這個部分我詳細的部分我回去問一下以後再跟委員回覆\n\n25:34.522 --> 25:57.553\n對這請部長多幫忙喔因為這個農基補助他們每年像這個時候都已經開始申請3月1號就開始申請每年都是這樣那只有到今年到現在農基補助那我們看這個經費也沒有問題啊他這個經費就是農業的特別收入基金向下的農村再生基金現在是我們的申請跟審查我們有分階段不是\n\n25:58.615 --> 26:20.228\n往年一開始申請然後全部完了以後就開始審查我們有分階段讓不同的季節跟不同產業的農民那部長這一部分再幫我們加快一下因為很多農民在反映了解好謝謝部長那這一部分再請我們工程會門陳金德陳主委麻煩請工程會備選好那爭取時間那\n\n26:28.476 --> 26:40.923\n院長還有陳主委這一部分要幫我們航空城的徵收戶來請命那為什麼找陳主委因為在今年二月陳主委以政務員的身份有主持我們航空城的專案小組會議對吧那當時會中\n\n26:44.565 --> 26:59.565\n我們主委有指示配合街廓點交跟安置住宅陸續完工要讓徵收戶可以重建家園成構住宅而且要在明年底前完成先建後遷讓我們桃園機場第三跑道可以順利推進可是現在\n\n27:01.767 --> 27:28.075\n針對這部分承購住宅部分的問題很多安置物既有的補償費不足以支付完整的購物費用現在在尋求我們貸款融資可是去年開始不動產融資政策緊縮雖然您有指示中央銀行跟金管會放寬貸款跟乘數的限制也讓他們優先核貸可是目前他們說\n\n27:29.275 --> 27:50.914\n他們到各個八大公股銀行這些去好像還是一樣沒有辦法能夠順利的貸款報告委員這個我們有請中央銀行還有各金融機構有請他們能夠特別來考量但是目前的做法大概都是一致的\n\n27:51.854 --> 28:07.496\n那這部分因為成構住宅的部分事實上加上補助這部分的金額比一般住宅事實上是便宜很多那我們會盡量就個案來跟相關的銀行來\n\n28:09.399 --> 28:25.012\n來請求協助因為希望這部分能夠趕快協助因為他們在114年8月有一個15%的加速開發獎勵金可是你現在這個錢他帶不下他根本沒有錢買沒有錢去裝潢這些東西都不能去做然後\n\n28:25.532 --> 28:43.101\n又限期他在八月一定要搬遷過去房子都沒好他怎麼搬遷過去然後他過了時間獎勵金又領不到所以這部分有時效的問題希望我們針對貸款的部分給他們盡量協助那當然還有像我們安置街坑的徵售戶一樣\n\n28:43.661 --> 29:12.881\n他在明年二月底前完成二樓樓地板的勘驗好才能領取安置接擴重建協助金可是現在他們也面臨這個問題針對台水台電這個臨時水電的接管一方面人力不足還有這個臨時用電用水這個金額申請的這些費用都非常的高昂不知道有沒有能夠解決的方法公用設施的部分水電這個都已經完成了\n\n29:13.861 --> 29:34.484\n那主要是臺灣市政府針對這麼多戶他的那個建造的申請也好或者是始造的勘驗也好他必須加快速度那至於完成二樓的樓地碼面積的獎金那這個都已經之前就已經公告了所以時間沒有辦法再演\n\n29:35.287 --> 29:58.095\n好沒關係但是你其他的部分要幫他解決他才有辦法去處理好那這部分提出來就是因為他們已經面臨到這個問題還有就是院長也在這邊那一天我們東龍凱悅也是航空城徵收戶這部分他們因為中央法規的限制還有國土署法規上要去尋求解套\n\n29:58.975 --> 30:16.109\n變成說他們現在想要納入結果遭受到很多的問題所以這部分先提出來希望院長到時候能夠重視是不是在法規上能夠給他解套或者民航局能夠提供更好的交通噪音排水等配套讓他們來解決那這部分問題我們在下個禮拜應該我會來\n\n30:22.354 --> 30:36.922\n開一個公聽說明會希望我們院長跟部長我們各部會相關的能夠來解決我們航空城徵收戶這一系列的問題能夠幫他們獲得改善解決他們的問題再請陳書偉收集各方的意見\n\n30:47.878 --> 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這請部長多幫忙喔因為這個農基補助他們每年像這個時候都已經開始申請3月1號就開始申請每年都是這樣那只有到今年到現在農基補助那我們看這個經費也沒有問題啊他這個經費就是農業的特別收入基金向下的農村再生基金現在是我們的申請跟審查我們有分階段不是"},{"start":1558.615,"end":1580.228,"text":"往年一開始申請然後全部完了以後就開始審查我們有分階段讓不同的季節跟不同產業的農民那部長這一部分再幫我們加快一下因為很多農民在反映了解好謝謝部長那這一部分再請我們工程會門陳金德陳主委麻煩請工程會備選好那爭取時間那"},{"start":1588.476,"end":1600.923,"text":"院長還有陳主委這一部分要幫我們航空城的徵收戶來請命那為什麼找陳主委因為在今年二月陳主委以政務員的身份有主持我們航空城的專案小組會議對吧那當時會中"},{"start":1604.565,"end":1619.565,"text":"我們主委有指示配合街廓點交跟安置住宅陸續完工要讓徵收戶可以重建家園 成構住宅而且要在明年底前完成先建後遷讓我們桃園機場第三跑道可以順利推進可是現在"},{"start":1621.767,"end":1648.075,"text":"針對這部分承購住宅部分的問題很多安置物既有的補償費不足以支付完整的購物費用現在在尋求我們貸款融資可是去年開始不動產融資政策緊縮雖然您有指示中央銀行跟金管會放寬貸款跟乘數的限制也讓他們優先核貸可是目前他們說"},{"start":1649.275,"end":1670.914,"text":"他們到各個八大公股銀行這些去好像還是一樣沒有辦法能夠順利的貸款報告委員 這個我們有請中央銀行還有各金融機構有請他們能夠特別來考量但是目前的做法大概都是一致的"},{"start":1671.854,"end":1687.496,"text":"那這部分因為成構住宅的部分事實上加上補助這部分的金額比一般住宅事實上是便宜很多那我們會盡量就個案來跟相關的銀行來"},{"start":1689.399,"end":1705.012,"text":"來請求協助因為希望這部分能夠趕快協助因為他們在114年8月有一個15%的加速開發獎勵金可是你現在這個錢他帶不下他根本沒有錢買沒有錢去裝潢這些東西都不能去做然後"},{"start":1705.532,"end":1723.101,"text":"又限期他在八月一定要搬遷過去房子都沒好他怎麼搬遷過去然後他過了時間獎勵金又領不到所以這部分有時效的問題希望我們針對貸款的部分給他們盡量協助那當然還有像我們安置街坑的徵售戶一樣"},{"start":1723.661,"end":1752.881,"text":"他在明年二月底前完成二樓樓地板的勘驗好才能領取安置接擴重建協助金可是現在他們也面臨這個問題針對台水台電這個臨時水電的接管一方面人力不足還有這個臨時用電用水這個金額申請的這些費用都非常的高昂不知道有沒有能夠解決的方法公用設施的部分水電這個都已經完成了"},{"start":1753.861,"end":1774.484,"text":"那主要是臺灣市政府針對這麼多戶他的那個建造的申請也好或者是始造的勘驗也好他必須加快速度那至於完成二樓的樓地碼面積的獎金那這個都已經之前就已經公告了所以時間沒有辦法再演"},{"start":1775.287,"end":1798.095,"text":"好沒關係但是你其他的部分要幫他解決他才有辦法去處理好那這部分提出來就是因為他們已經面臨到這個問題還有就是院長也在這邊那一天我們東龍凱悅也是航空城徵收戶這部分他們因為中央法規的限制還有國土署法規上要去尋求解套"},{"start":1798.975,"end":1816.109,"text":"變成說他們現在想要納入結果遭受到很多的問題所以這部分先提出來希望院長到時候能夠重視是不是在法規上能夠給他解套或者民航局能夠提供更好的交通噪音排水等配套讓他們來解決那這部分問題我們在下個禮拜應該我會來"},{"start":1822.354,"end":1836.922,"text":"開一個公聽說明會希望我們院長跟部長我們各部會相關的能夠來解決我們航空城徵收戶這一系列的問題能夠幫他們獲得改善解決他們的問題再請陳書偉收集各方的意見"},{"start":1847.878,"end":1852.249,"text":"好,谢谢图轩基委员的资讯,谢谢卓院长、各部会首长的备询,谢谢。"}]}}},"gazette":{"lineno":188,"blocks":[["涂委員權吉：（9時49分）謝謝主席，請卓榮泰卓院長、農業部陳駿季部長還有經濟部郭智輝部長，謝謝。"],["主席：麻煩請卓院長、經濟部、農業部備詢。"],["卓院長榮泰：涂委員好。"],["涂委員權吉：院長、部長好。4月2號美東時間開始，全球經濟面對大動盪，美國總統川普也宣布那一天為解放日，也公布一項全新的雙層關稅制度，先是10%的基準關稅，後來又針對60個國家徵收額外的對等關稅，臺灣也被要求課徵32%，這個衝擊真的非常大，雖然後來川普總統有馬上宣布暫緩，要向各國來進行關稅談判，這個可以說是國難當頭，我們不能不慎，4月11號是不是我方的經貿談判團隊有跟美方進行視訊會議？"],["卓院長榮泰：是的。"],["涂委員權吉：有沒有什麼具體的成果？還是有談到哪一些部分嗎？"],["卓院長榮泰：我們也很欣慰，第一輪的開始我們能夠在很優先的時間序上面跟美方就雙方的談判團隊進行視訊會議，視訊談到的部分，我們日前有向國人報告關於對等關稅、非關稅貿易障礙以及出口管制在內的多項議題交換意見，但這是一個啟動，未來我們將會更完善並備妥所有的資料，跟美方做下一波的談判，關於這個時間，我們還在爭取最有利於我方的時間。"],["涂委員權吉：那有沒有談到一些軍購方面跟天然氣的採購方面？"],["卓院長榮泰：基於國際談判的慣例跟雙方的默契，我們雙方同意對於對等關稅、非關稅貿易障礙以及包括出口管制多項議題來做交換意見。"],["涂委員權吉：所以現在只能講一些大略的部分，細節部分沒有辦法說明？"],["卓院長榮泰：就談判的過程是如此。"],["涂委員權吉：我想請問一下，因為在視訊會議談判的部分，學界跟專家都有提醒美方可能會要求加碼買美債的持有，甚至執政黨立委也倡議說應該要擴大持有，針對這一部分，我們談判的代表裡面有央行的成員嗎？"],["卓院長榮泰：事先的諮詢團隊都有。"],["涂委員權吉：可是談判的時候沒有？"],["卓院長榮泰：都有，包括我們金融支持的各方團隊都有。"],["涂委員權吉：因為我們也看到中央銀行楊金龍總裁好像也對擴大持有美債的建議，他也說非常好，也可以是跟美國談判的一個籌碼。"],["卓院長榮泰：我們現在談判的態度就是採取任何議題都可以談，但是我們基於國家最高的利益以及產業界能夠維持其國際競爭力兩項原則，跟美方做所有的接觸，所以任何包括採購、包括投資以及包括各種的合作案都可以談，你剛剛才談到的美債，其實我方持有美國的美債也有相當大的數量，在這個時候，一定是依照整個國際金融秩序，以我們財政能力的規劃來做進一步的思考。"],["涂委員權吉：那美債這一部分有談到嗎？"],["卓院長榮泰：這個是我們在內部規劃，會有這樣的準備，但是談判的過程，抱歉……"],["涂委員權吉：有列入選項啦？"],["卓院長榮泰：不是，我們很多的選項都列在裡面，我剛剛說採購也有、投資也有，還有這些談判，到底各項產業的關稅稅率要如何談判，我們都有做準備，這是我們備妥的方案，但實際進到談判桌去談的，我們還要進一步的去……到了那個時間點，才能跟對方來談。"],["涂委員權吉：好，也希望能夠多幫忙臺灣的經濟。"],["卓院長榮泰：一定，我們是以維持產業國際競爭力，讓國內的產業能夠安定，這個是最優先的考量。"],["涂委員權吉：好，也提醒行政院，其實在川普宣布對等關稅措施的前三天，3月31號美國貿易代表署有提交2025對外貿易障礙評估報告，點名對我國美豬、牛、馬鈴薯、稻米基改食品等限制為不必要的貿易障礙，要求我國調整。請問院長，針對美豬、美牛進一步的開放，還有美國稻米的關稅調降或者擴大配合這一部分，照院長剛剛這樣講，應該也有可能成為談判的籌碼之一喔？"],["卓院長榮泰：我想每個國家無論是在工業或農業，都有屬於自己國家的敏感產業、敏感產品，他都會基於保護這敏感產品，用國家的角度來思考，每個國家都是這樣子。我們跟美方因為我們在去年對美方的輸出比較多，造成美國對我的逆差比較大，所以會要求我們儘量平衡這個逆差，而我們採行的方法，會用大的投資、大的採購來平衡這個貿易。至於這些比較敏感的產品，我想基於雙方共同的利益，我們不分工業部門或是農業部門都會進行各個產業不同的評估，當然農業、漁民、農民是我們要優先保護的對象，請委員放心、國人也放心，我們一定站在這個原則上。"],["涂委員權吉：為什麼要提醒院長？因為賴總統有在彭博社表示他會致力於排除非關稅貿易障礙，像美豬、美牛進一步開放等等，這些就是美方最關注的非關稅貿易障礙，所以我也希望院長能夠注意賴總統有在彭博社曾經表示過的這個意見。"],["卓院長榮泰：是，要排除非關稅貿易障礙的品項非常地複雜，但是一定要有排除的依據，我們的依據就是如果符合國際貿易秩序，也有國際的標準，同時有科學的證據，那都是可以在談判時來談的，但是會以保護農漁民的權益為優先，這個還是我方的基本態度。"],["涂委員權吉：因為現在大家也很擔心美國稻米的零關稅問題，像白米炸彈客楊儒門就有講：如果開放美國廉價米零關稅，就是崩盤、失業、滅農的三連擊。而我們養豬協會也提醒，豬肉產地標示的法規一定要守住，如果消費者沒有辦法辨識產地，那我們想要支持臺灣豬肉就真的沒有辦法，這絕對對國內的豬肉產業會造成很大的衝擊。"],["卓院長榮泰：楊先生過去對臺灣農業，尤其是對稻農的用心支持，我們都肯定，我也看到他最近的這個文章，在當天我就請部長一定要設法能夠去進行說明、溝通，甚至詢問意見，我請部長說明這個過程。"],["陳部長駿季：我跟委員說明，關於剛才委員所提到的，目前在貿易清單裡面的一些品項，因為我們跟美國基本上是逆差的，針對這個部分，我們會跟美國積極地說明，針對一些國內必須去支持的，我想農業部基本上因為農業肩負了糧食安全的責任，就如您說的稻米部分，還有一些肉類、禽類的部分，這些都是糧食安全必須要守住的部分。所以我們未來在處理這個議題的時候，一定是要確保我們產業的競爭力，同時穩定產業的永續發展，更重要的是，我們會保障農漁民的權益，用這三個原則，我們才會去處理後續這些相關的談判議題。"],["涂委員權吉：對啊！因為豬、牛、稻米是民眾及各個豬農、牛農、稻農最特別關心的一個問題。據我們了解，目前針對加徵關稅的部分，蘭花、茶、毛豆及出口魚類好像已經有開始做產業衝擊的座談，可是我們對於美方點名的非貿易障礙，如豬、牛、稻米好像還沒有開始開這個座談，是不是？"],["陳部長駿季：我跟委員報告，我們現在跟業者座談的是針對美方提高關稅，本來是32%，後來暫緩90天用10%來課的情況之下，我們告訴農漁民們政府所提出來的支持方案，同時也聽產業的一些意見來滾動檢討我們的支持方案。至於您剛才說的關稅談判部分，目前所有的議題都在準備當中，我們並沒有說要把農業的議題推到第一線去跟美方談，我們絕對不會犧牲農漁民的權益去當作一個籌碼。"],["涂委員權吉：好，當然我們今天會提出來，就是害怕影響到他們的權益，因為我也知道這個談判過程就像院長剛剛講的，很多的選項裡面就是希望有利於這個談判，如果談判過程中能夠不讓步，我們當然希望能夠保護這些農民，像豬農、牛農、稻農等等，但是如果真的談判過程美方強力的要求，假如行政院真的會有讓步的話，我覺得也要在這之前向農友進行農業、農產品的座談及相關的配套措施，這一部分可以嗎？"],["卓院長榮泰：跟委員報告，我們整個談判團隊把內容準備得相當完備，無論是工業或是農業等各方面，我們也想到在談判的過程當中，當然是爭取最大的利益，但是雙方在談判的過程中一定是互有進退，我們基本的原則一定要守住，但是跟他在細節上面做談判的時候，若到了成熟階段要跟國人報告時，我們一定隨時準備好向國人清楚說明。"],["涂委員權吉：對啊！當然，我們是希望這一部分能夠堅守我們的原則，尤其豬肉的部分，我覺得產地的標示我們真的不能退讓，因為我們要保護我們的豬農，像本席的選區，桃園沿海跟楊梅，他們說他們這邊的豬比人還多，表示這些豬農、豬肉產業在我們地方占有非常重要的地位，所以我們希望能夠堅持的一定要堅持，但是如果在談判過程中有困難的時候，一定要先跟我們農友進行產業溝通，相關的配套措施一定要完善，不能損失我們這些農民的權益。"],["卓院長榮泰：是的，所以我們事先準備了這些支持方案，我想農業部已經有相當詳細的規劃在裡面。"],["陳部長駿季：我跟委員報告，臺灣的豬肉自給率大概將近88%到90%，而且我們臺灣的豬肉是用溫體屠宰的方式，所以請您相信我們臺灣的豬肉在國人的心中是第一個優先選擇。過往豬肉其實都有從其他國家進口，在這個進口的噸數裡面，都是不同的國家在替換，但還是總歸一句，所有豬肉跟雞肉的部分，我們還是會在確保農民的收益為前提之下，才去考量後續的問題。"],["涂委員權吉：對，因為我們是擔心豬肉你到時候沒有標示產地，勢必會對臺灣豬農、豬肉產業造成很大的衝擊。這一部分繼續努力啦！","我請問一下院長跟經濟部長，我們是不是沒有針對服務貿易這一方面來做統計數字？因為根據我們貿易法明文規定，貿易是只指貨品貿易，所以經濟部國貿署是不是沒有服務貿易這一部分的統計資料？好像只有美方才有。"],["郭部長智輝：報告委員，我想服務貿易的這個數字，我們應該是有的，我們是有這樣的數字，但問題是這個不在關稅的範圍之內。"],["涂委員權吉：我們查得到嗎？我們有這個統計資料嗎？"],["郭部長智輝：我們如果要去搜尋這些資料應該是可以搜尋得到……"],["涂委員權吉：不是，我的意思是說……"],["郭部長智輝：但是這個沒有辦法作為……"],["涂委員權吉：我是說沒有做統計，我們國貿署沒有做這一方面的統計資料。"],["郭部長智輝：國貿署會有所有國內變動的這些數字。"],["涂委員權吉：好，我會提出來是因為發現我們對美的服務貿易往來，只有美方的統計數字。你看，服務貿易涵蓋的很廣，臉書、Google、Netflix這些公司在臺灣的服務貿易收入，美方統計2024年是一百多億臺幣（3.86億美金），但其實我們覺得這個數字一定是遠遠被低估，所以我說我們都沒有做這個統計資料，因為根據我們查的資料顯示，你看紐約時報的報導，美國服務貿易順差接近3,000億美元，約新臺幣9.9兆，其中大部分的服務從金融服務到雲端運算都是透過數位方式交付。Netflix在全球營收達到390億美元，它的淨利就達87.1億美元。Google的母公司Alphabet在2024年的全球營收達到3,500億美元，這些數字可以看得到美國在數位服務貿易這一方面真的是全球賺飽飽。桃園市市長張善政那時候有提到，川普在這一方面完全不提Google、臉書在全球賺大錢的事情，所以我們服務貿易這一部分，是不是也一樣可以作為我們的談判籌碼？"],["卓院長榮泰：跟委員報告，服務產業的面非常地廣，項目非常地多，其實就我們跟美方服務業互相往來、進進出出的數字，呈現一個不是很穩定的數字，幾年下來都是這樣，有時候我們會有一些增加，這個在這一次關稅的新政策當中並沒有列入，因為它不是一個穩定的狀態。這個部分我們財政部曾經有過相類似的一些評估，這個部分因為我們現在不列入到跟它談判的過程當中……"],["涂委員權吉：對啦！我是建議，因為也不能說美方都找對它自己有利的條件，你看我們服務貿易這一部分，對美國服務貿易逆差非常非常地大，這部分我們應該也要做一個統計數字，這應該也可以列入我們對美談判的籌碼。"],["卓院長榮泰：我們有這個統計數字，剛剛委員說逆差非常大，就是它呈現一個不穩定的狀態。"],["涂委員權吉：好，希望這部分也能夠列入，能夠增加我們對美談判的籌碼。謝謝兩位部長。","請客委會古主委。"],["主席：麻煩請客委會備詢。"],["涂委員權吉：古主委，首先感謝客委會對於桃園市政府爭取的三個建設案的補助，其實本席的選區也算是道地的客家庄，像楊梅、新屋都有七成、八成的客家人。針對新屋圖書館還有客家文化館，我們爭取經費，也感謝客委會已經核定備查，可是對於觀音崙坪文化景園區客庄共融式藝遊客廳工程，聽說評審委員對這一部分好像意見有分歧，經費還沒有核定是嗎？"],["古主任委員秀妃：是，我們審查的時候，委員對於這個計畫跟原來的目標，也就是客庄生活交流中心的主題，比較不一致，所以目前是沒有核定。"],["涂委員權吉：我覺得這個部分如果有需要的話，本席也可以幫忙出面協調，因為這個部分對於我們發展客家文化其實有很大的助益，所以前面兩個案子感謝主委；這第三個案子，觀音崙坪也是一個典型客家人的地方，對於發展我們客家文化有所助益，也希望客委會能夠來幫忙，有需要協調的部分，本席也願意跟大家溝通協調。"],["古主任委員秀妃：是，我們可以請同事再來了解，看看地方上的情形……"],["涂委員權吉：好，謝謝古主委，請回。","請交通部部長，陳世凱部長。"],["主席：請交通部備詢。"],["涂委員權吉：感謝陳部長，那時候在委員會質詢時針對國一交流道北出匝道的改善計畫，還有國一幼獅交流道南出匝道的改善計畫，這一部分感謝高公局全力的配合，也特地下鄉跟我們鄉親說明這兩個交流道，因為這裡長期以來有交通非常壅塞的問題。這一部分在3月底已經公告招標，年底完工，不知道現在進度是怎麼樣？"],["陳部長世凱：報告委員，這部分沒有問題，目前正在招標作業當中，我們還是預定今年年底要完工。"],["涂委員權吉：好，所以這一部分應該沒問題喔？"],["陳部長世凱：是。"],["涂委員權吉：還有現在大家比較關注的是國道一號楊頭段拓寬工程，在地的鄉親希望能夠先規劃增設北出南入的匝道，不要像之前五楊高架做好，多年以後有這個需求，後來才去做匝道，變成二次施工，也把時間拖得很長，讓我們在地居民飽受這個工程的困擾，把時間拖得更長，所以我們希望在國道一號楊頭段拓寬時就能夠把北出南入匝道增設的部分先規劃納入。"],["陳部長世凱：好，這個部分我們跟市政府一起來研議，看怎麼樣把它規劃進來。"],["涂委員權吉：好，也順便跟部長提一下，楊梅休息站，最近大家應該有關注到，因為過年的時候才發生了死亡車禍，這三年來發生了十幾起，而且造成7個人死亡，尤其在這一次過年時特別嚴重，當然也有很多民眾質疑它原本是收費站改成休息站，所以是不是在設計規劃上有一些問題？希望能夠做改善，當然我也希望由專業的單位去了解，那時候剛好在討論楊頭段北出南入匝道，又因為休息站的問題，所以有很多地方民意反映，是不是把休息站廢掉，直接做成南入匝道？因為下去不到20公里就有湖口休息站，但交通部高公局好像對這部分有點意見，是不是？部長有掌握嗎？"],["陳部長世凱：報告委員，這個休息站比較特殊。這個休息站是給高架路段使用的，且未來高架路段還會再做延伸，所以就長度來講，那邊確實有需要做休息站。其實原本並沒做，後來因為有需求，所以大家爭取做了休息站。在休息站建置過程中，一切均依安全法規設定，所以安全上的設定應該都沒有問題，否則高公局不會做這個休息站。當然……"],["涂委員權吉：沒關係，因為時間問題。由於高公局有提出意見，後來也請交通局針對這部分檢討，再不然就是規劃做一個便道，這樣也可以解決南入的問題。現在北出的問題已經解決了，已經找到地方，剩下南入部分。那天我們有去考察，目前是希望交通局就做便道一事先提出可行性評估……"],["陳部長世凱：對，由市政府先提出可行性評估，之後我們來研究。"],["涂委員權吉：這部分也希望部長到時候能夠給我們支持。還有，這問題之前我在委員會也有提過，也就是楊梅秀才路178巷的問題。這是一條銜接臺一線的縣道，那時候我們有提出，希望能納入第三期省改計畫。可是後來我們發現行政院到現在都尚未核定這個省改計畫！經費已經通過了，但計畫卻沒有核定，現在是有什麼問題嗎？"],["卓院長榮泰：報告委員，這個行政院已經在上個月核定了。"],["涂委員權吉：已經核定了，是嗎？"],["陳部長世凱：省改計畫已經核定了。"],["涂委員權吉：那時候我們一直要送計畫，可是行政院一直沒有核定，以致計畫就一直卡在那邊。感謝院長，既然已經核定，我們就可以開始進行了。","另外，上個禮拜省道桃園楊梅區段下起大豪雨，我們都知道瞬間的大豪雨有時候會造成排水無法解決，後來民眾反映主要是因為很多排水口沒有清空，導致下雨後水排不下去。當然，瞬間豪大雨無法將水馬上排走，這個沒有問題，但這裡基本上是因為排水口阻塞。所以本席今天要提出的問題是，興建的部分固然要做，但像臺一線縱貫路這些道路，是不是可以在颱風季節來臨前做個清查？特別是針對排水口阻塞做清查？否則一旦淹水，會造成民眾財產損失及安全問題。"],["陳部長世凱：報告委員，我們會請公路局針對所有的轄管省道，在汛期來臨之前做好所有的清疏。"],["涂委員權吉：這部分問題就請部長多關心，畢竟颱風季即將來臨，希望能夠做總體檢來檢查一下。謝謝部長，接下來請教農業部陳部長。"],["主席：請農業部備詢。"],["涂委員權吉：部長，113年在2月就公告了農機補助，3月到4月開始實施第一階段申請，即3月到4月底就可以開始申請。可是今年為什麼到現在都還沒有公告，這讓農民感到很恐慌！為什麼到現在農機補助都沒有公告？"],["陳部長駿季：跟委員報告，前幾年農機一年大概有23億的補助額度，都是先申請先贏。由於有的產業在冬季才需要農機，所以購買的時間會在冬季，因此，這一、兩年已經分成三個時期接受申請與審核，即每三個月會公告一次、審查，然後再公告、再審查，中間會有一些時間落差。"],["涂委員權吉：什麼時候可以開始公告？"],["陳部長駿季：詳細的情形我回去問過後再跟委員回復。"],["涂委員權吉：對，這個請部長多幫忙，因為農機補助的部分，每年這個時候都已經開始申請，3月1日就開始申請，每年都是這樣，結果今年到現在農機補助都還沒有開始，我們看到這個經費也沒有問題，經費就是農業特別收入基金項下的農村再生基金。"],["陳部長駿季：對，經費沒問題，現在是我們的申請跟審查有分階段，不像往年一開始就申請，全部申請完後就開始審查，現在我們有分階段，讓不同的季節、不同產業的農民來得到照顧……"],["涂委員權吉：部長，這個部分再幫我們加快一下，因為很多農民在反映。"],["陳部長駿季：是，瞭解。"],["涂委員權吉：好，謝謝部長。","接下來請工程會陳金德主委。"],["主席：麻煩請工程會備詢。"],["涂委員權吉：爭取時間，本席就直接先開始了。院長、陳主委，接下來的這個部分是要幫我們航空城的徵收戶請命，為什麼找陳主委？因為今年2月陳主委以政務委員的身分主持了航空城專案小組會議，對吧？當時在會中主委有指示配合街廓點交跟安置住宅陸續完工，要讓徵收戶可以重建家園承購住宅，而且要在明年底前完成先建後遷，讓桃園機場第三跑道可以順利推進。可是現在針對承購住宅的部分，很多安置戶既有的補償費不足以支付完整的購屋費用，現在在尋求貸款融資，加上去年開始不動產融資政策緊縮，雖然您有指示中央銀行跟金管會放寬貸款和成數限制，並讓他們優先核貸，但目前他們說自己到八大公股銀行去貸款時，好像還是一樣沒辦法能夠順利貸款耶！"],["陳主任委員金德：報告委員，這個部分我們有請中央銀行及各金融機構能夠特別來考量，目前的做法大概都是一致的。因為承購住宅的部分，再加上補助，事實上這部分的金額比一般住宅是便宜很多，我們會儘量就個案來跟相關銀行請求協助。"],["涂委員權吉：希望這部分能夠趕快協助，因為在114年8月有個15%加速開發獎勵金，可是現在錢貸不下來，他們根本沒有錢去買、去裝潢，這些東西都不能做，然後又限期在8月一定要搬遷過去，房子都沒好怎麼搬遷過去？而且時間超過的話獎勵金就領不到了，所以這個部分有時效的問題，希望我們針對貸款的部分能儘量給予他們協助。","另外，安置街廓的徵收戶也一樣，必須在明年2月底前完成二樓樓地板勘驗才能領取安置街廓重建協助金，可是現在他們也面臨這個問題，針對台水、台電的臨時水電接管，一方面人力不足，還有臨時用電、用水的申請費用都非常高昂，不知道有沒有能夠解決的方法？"],["陳主任委員金德：公用設施部分的水電都已經完成了，主要是桃園市政府針對這麼多戶的建照申請也好，或者是使照勘驗也好，必須加快速度啦。至於完成二樓樓地板面積勘驗的獎金，這個之前都已經公告了，所以時間沒有辦法再延。"],["涂委員權吉：沒關係，但是其他部分要幫它解決，它才有辦法去處理。"],["陳主任委員金德：我們會跟桃園市政府來協調。"],["涂委員權吉：好，本席提出這個部分就是因為他們已經面臨到這個問題了。院長也在這邊，東隆凱悅也就是航空城徵收戶的部分，他們因為中央法規的限制以及國土署法規上要去尋求解套，他們現在想要納入卻遭受很多問題，這部分本席先提出來，希望院長到時候能夠重視，是不是在法規上能給他們解套？或者民航局能夠提供更好的交通、噪音、排水等配套，幫他們來解決？這部分的問題我們在下禮拜應該會召開公聽說明會，希望院長跟部長、各部會相關的人員能夠解決航空城徵收戶這一系列的問題，幫他們獲得改善，並解決他們的問題。"],["卓院長榮泰：我們再請陳主委蒐集各方的意見，整個去做綜合的考量，謝謝。"],["涂委員權吉：好，到時候說明會召開的時候再請行政院各部會來幫忙。"],["卓院長榮泰：會有相關的同事去參加，謝謝。"],["涂委員權吉：好，謝謝。"],["主席：謝謝涂權吉委員的質詢，謝謝院長及各部會首長的備詢，謝謝。","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