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00:02:01,639\n其實原本美方它有公佈豁免的名單包括像通訊產品筆電手機半導體都有入列但是後續川普的態度又很反覆所以現在目前的狀況是很撲朔迷離有我們副縣長領軍的談判團已經開始談判了我想知道說我想國人也非常關心說現在我們的整個談判的過程是樂觀的嗎有沒有好消息可以讓國人放心\n\n6\n00:02:03,814 --> 00:02:21,057\n台灣能夠列在最優先談判的順序當中我想對整個談判團隊我們的感覺是非常士氣是高昂的至少我們之前所準備的所有的被討的方案可以在最優先的時間就把它有機會提出來\n\n7\n00:02:22,178 --> 00:02:45,849\n單單是第一次的接觸視訊的談判那只是啟動了整個談判的程序後續還有雙方當天談之後的一些後續的準備資料還要持續的來做做好下一個階段的準備所以目前還在進行當中所以現在也還沒有辦法告訴國人說有沒有一個好的開始好的發展會有什麼樣的好消息讓大家稍微放心\n\n8\n00:02:47,010 --> 00:03:10,231\n總統說這是一個順利的那副總統也表示這是一個非常正面的我也說這是一個非常健康的其實以我們鄭副院長以及楊政委的專業其實國人都對他們非常的支持讚許我也相信說國人的這個信任跟厚望是他們的後盾那其實在這個氛圍上是很特別的全世界受到關注\n\n9\n00:03:11,272 --> 00:03:38,372\n川普的這個關稅影響的國家大家都團結一致槍口對外希望爭取最有利的對國家最有利的一些相關的空間那只有台灣最特別只有台灣是在野黨一直在罵執政黨然後一直在扯後腿槍口是對內的所以我也相信說在這樣的氛圍之下呢我們的談判團壓力是蠻大的啦但是我也相信說我們談判團有這個能力為國家來爭取最有利的這個地位\n\n10\n00:03:39,173 --> 00:03:41,677\n那在這個變動的關稅政策之下就會帶來不確定性的衝擊那豁免清單裡面沒有提到的相關的農業跟漁業跟相關的傳統的產業這些都會受到這些關稅的挑戰所以這邊我還是要再提出幾點\n\n11\n00:03:54,375 --> 00:04:09,233\n第一个我希望说受到影响的这些产业的这些政府的相关补助包括不管是贷款又会贷款振兴的补助以及不同产业这些咨询窗口我们一定要加强宣传的管道\n\n12\n00:04:09,893 --> 00:04:37,481\n來降低產業他們在聯繫上的時間跟成本讓他們在最快的時間可以知道他們相關的訊息得到他們所需要的支持第二個部分就是我們在研議對等關稅這個還沒有很明朗的情況之下有一些不得不實施無薪假的企業希望說我們可以針對他們受影響的這些相關的勞資的權益我們提供協助不管是津貼或者是相關的勞動契約我們都應該主動的來提供他們有這樣的訊息來協助他們\n\n13\n00:04:39,601 --> 00:04:45,782\n再來我希望說應該區分不同的產業別包括像紡織一類工具機一類農業一類我們來組成這些唾銷的國家隊我們用團體團隊的力量向外去拓展聯合出擊我們才能創造多贏那第四個部分是我們現在國人也很擔心的就是我們要嚴防中國這邊有大量的傾銷變相的把我們台灣變成他們習產地的這樣子的一個做法\n\n14\n00:05:06,587 --> 00:05:20,097\n所以說提升這個邊境檢查來維護我國商業安全也非常的重要那這個部分不知道現在行政院你們有什麼想應應的政策好謝謝委員我想整個談判的過程很多的委員\n\n15\n00:05:21,596 --> 00:05:48,067\n還有我們社會的很多人沒有辦法完全知道全貌難免心急這個我完全理解那我們的難處是我們也很難在這個時候基於談判的慣例跟雙方的默契沒有辦法全部的說出這也是我們的為難那只要國人給我們多一點的耐心跟時間我們好好的把這件事情進行那目前除了談判的主要內容就是對等關稅非關稅貿易障礙還包括了出口管制\n\n16\n00:05:48,707 --> 00:06:03,412\n其他還有我們自己知道的包括你剛剛所說的違規轉運息產地反傾銷那違規轉運這個問題在台灣我們一定要徹底的來解決台灣不能成為這次世界貿易秩序重建的過程當中的一個破口\n\n17\n00:06:04,252 --> 00:06:30,061\n會對我們自己的產業在國際上失去信任度也對我們國內的產業失去安定所以我們在事前要做好更多的預防工作事中要嚴格來查查所有進來台灣的產品但是事後如果發現的不法一律原程我們事前事中事後三道防線已經完成那現在我們會全面要求各主管的部會\n\n18\n00:06:30,649 --> 00:06:53,063\n去直接有效的去執行這樣的工作所以針對這個部分關於洗產地的這樣子的我們已經有制定相關的一些措施那也希望說因為我有鄉親跟我提到說他在網路上啊就看到很多關於中國大陸一些廣告他告訴他說拼多多現在可以直接郵寄到台灣\n\n19\n00:06:53,783 --> 00:07:17,340\n所以他們已經在打這樣子的廣告小額包裹又是另外一個議題所以也希望說我們國人有時候在不注意的情況之下如果有進行這樣子相關的這些採購的這些行為呢那在這個邊境包裹的這些盤查這個稽查的部分我也希望說我們能夠加強那其實我也非常謝謝我們院長上禮拜六你親自到我們彰化進行這個產業的聆聽之旅\n\n20\n00:07:20,042 --> 00:07:48,651\n過去本席也一直要求說希望說我們政府可以多多的來聽產業的心聲雖然這次這個啟動的這個契機也許是因為危機但是我相信說只要我們肯來聽產業的聲音我們有這樣子的跟產業的互動我們真正的聽到他們的心聲我們才能夠制定更完整以及更全面的這些協助的方案那我再問一下其實院長剛剛意思就是說我們目前的談判其實是很正向的\n\n21\n00:07:49,976 --> 00:08:05,225\n能夠排在最優先的這個順序裡面對我們來講是好事情其實因為我國的態度一直都非常的誠意也正向那我相信美方也會回應給我們相對等的這樣子的誠意讓我們的國人可以放心說不會再有更\n\n22\n00:08:06,820 --> 00:08:23,912\n不好的消息傳出應該都是慢慢的是往好的方向來發展不過跟我們報告就是在4月3號之前其實我們已經陸續跟很多產業進行溝通只是那個時候真的是政策未明情勢未明大家只能只有一般的感受預防性的來談4月5號6號總統連續召集ICT產業跟中小企業也針對問題因為那個已經宣佈了32%的對等關稅5號6號就進行了更\n\n23\n00:08:34,417 --> 00:08:47,865\n有效率的而且針對議題的討論那之後呢總統也到了台中我到了彰化到了高雄到了屏東各地我們看到了大概二三十個業者二三十種類的業者大家聚在一起不同的時間\n\n24\n00:08:48,649 --> 00:09:14,563\n都是在談對業界最大的衝擊在哪裡那政府提出的支持方案能不能給業界比較安心的感覺我們得到的答案普遍上是肯定的但也感謝業者給我們更多的訊息希望我們還要補強哪一方面或是加大力道哪一方面這個我們都會在下禮拜對外公佈的整個支持方案的申請的時程內容跟程序方面一一的向國人做說明\n\n25\n00:09:15,143 --> 00:09:32,749\n謝謝院長所以在三個星期六我也向院長您表達說你們要持續來收集業界的行程沒錯我們成業之旅還會繼續走我們來滾動的來檢討來提供他們最有力的協助那接下來我想請交通部陳部長麻煩請交通部長備選是\n\n26\n00:09:44,206 --> 00:10:11,224\n部長好院長部長本席要來繼續追蹤關心我們選區的重大建設首先就是行政院在去年3月核定的美港公路高降化這個工程那本席有先詢問過公路局目前是在綜合規劃的階段並且也同時進行環境影響評估預計在今年的6月會提出綜合規劃的期末報告那在這邊我想請教院長及部長可不可以給我們彰化鄉親一個承諾不會再拖延\n\n27\n00:10:11,704 --> 00:10:25,231\n因為這個期程已經延宕了很久很久那鄉親也期待了很久也因為一直延宕我們都會擔心到最後計畫會有變那也希望知道到後續環評的期程是不是可以如期在115年的6月來完成\n\n28\n00:10:28,246 --> 00:10:50,872\n交通部今年四月是在完成他的中規的期中報告請部長來說明報告委員今年的四月份四月底一定會完成他的期中報告這個部分沒有問題但之後的環評可能還需要一段時間這個部分我們也會照原本的期程跟您報告的期程下去完成可是那個期程應該環評的時間不太可能在115年的6月我們盡量趕\n\n29\n00:10:52,512 --> 00:11:12,272\n因為當初會希望說有一些可以重疊的部分我們盡量把它的期程拉近不要就是一個拖一個會越拖越久主要是因為說美港公路它這個合併的金額高達167.84億那後續的建設計畫細部的設計以及用地取得還有施工其實都牽扯到我們行政院的預算\n\n30\n00:11:12,833 --> 00:11:40,181\n那在財化法呢將我們中央大概28%都撥給地方之後呢中央補助地方的這個經費有沒有受到影響這也是鄉親非常非常擔心的那到時候我們美港公路這個計畫會不會因為有經費上的問題而沒有辦法完工這個部分民眾一直希望說我們政院這邊可以一個一個承諾就是說一定會來協助這個重大的交通建設可以完成財化法對中央的財政\n\n31\n00:11:40,765 --> 00:11:44,129\n真的是發生了比較大的一些不良的影響\n\n32\n00:11:45,782 --> 00:12:13,571\n如果現在這個現狀我們當然還要尋求憲法上的救濟在研議當中我說如果照這個現狀我許大家以為對今年沒有影響但是明年一定產生影響那如果我們對地方的補助他是跨年度的是是是連續性的如果今年做了補助明年沒有補助我想地方也很難在一時間完全的適應所以對很多的核定案我們現在是全部收回來重新再計算他的\n\n33\n00:12:14,597 --> 00:12:35,739\n對地方補助的能量以及它的時程如何來做分配跟地方如何來分擔鄉親會覺得很著急啊就是如果這個時程越拖越久的話這個經費可能會有變所以會希望說我們行政院這邊和我們交通部盡量來協助就是盡快的把騎乘完成而且一定要完成這個對我們沿海鄉鎮非常重要的重大的交通建設所以我很希望\n\n34\n00:12:36,640 --> 00:13:04,275\n維持中央財政能力地方所有的建設我們才能有效的繼續這是我期待如果財發法當時討論是有這樣的想法的話那至少他現在已經造成了一個存在的問題會有很大的衝擊這個我們真的非常的擔心所以這個部分我也希望說我們交通部這邊要緊盯相關的進度不要再延宕那同樣也是本席選區的建設還有在2月剛簽約完成的台61線的徵社入港休息站\n\n35\n00:13:05,135 --> 00:13:29,230\n這個休息站對於本席的選區乃至彰化縣的鄉親意義都非常大因為這是第一個設立在彰化縣內的休息站彰化縣不會因為縣內沒有任何的休息站而一直只能被路過所以我們彰化鄉親十分的期待那公路許這邊是預計在三月份還是開設計標後續的規劃設計及施工期程目前有沒有個確定的時間\n\n36\n00:13:30,070 --> 00:13:54,224\n報告委員目前我們正在設計規劃當中未來招標的過程當中我們也會積極來辦理這個休息站其實對於整個61號來講是非常重要的一個休息站我們會加速來辦理那今年底有沒有啟用的可能今年底怎麼樣今年底可以啟用嗎我們目前還要再招標還要一些時間但是我們盡量趕那行政院的預算是不是足夠支應\n\n37\n00:13:56,058 --> 00:14:21,676\n這個計劃應該影響不大這個影響不大因為主要是我們自己公務局的休息站那第三個部分我要請教就是關於我們和美美寮路拖寬的問題美寮路是我們和美東西巷一個很主要的道路是地方上就是我們跟彰化市往來的主要要道那因為它在非都市計劃路段的現有路只有8米寬在尖峰的這個時段交通量很大尤其是上下雪的時間學生\n\n38\n00:14:22,757 --> 00:14:37,902\n接送的家長跟大車是跟大車爭道是環向閒身說常常發生重大的車禍那終於在地方期盼已久的這樣子因應期盼之下我們在2023年6月爭取到中央的補助是4億1902萬但是現在連續兩次的土增小組會議都因為縣府這邊還要補充資料來做解\n\n39\n00:14:45,965 --> 00:15:14,194\n所以這邊有兩個問題第一個還是鄉親關心的就是說這筆預算將來會不會因為拉了很長的時間一直延宕因為經費是有時效性的導致沒有辦法來做美寮路的拓寬第二個部分是說縣府如果一直沒有辦法處理居民的意見加上我們整個總預算的部分因為才劃反的部分讓美寮路拓寬的部分會不會讓居民失望\n\n40\n00:15:14,614 --> 00:15:16,776\n這個已經核定的補助的金額這個不會變已經核定的補助金額不會變但是有沒有實效性\n\n41\n00:15:25,860 --> 00:15:48,850\n這個應該不會有時效性啦但是地方政府他對於徵收的這個時效他自己要去加強這個不是中央能夠限制因為他已經走到土增了其實土增沒有問題的話就可以來動工土地的取得通常地方政府要來大力但我也希望說相關單位是不是可以盡力協助如果說縣府他比較力而未待或是他沒有那麼積極的話我們有沒有辦法可以予以協助讓這個進度可以再快一點我們可以來了解一下他的困難點在哪裡\n\n42\n00:15:49,434 --> 00:15:52,278\n我們跟地方政府來瞭解他的困難點給予他們適時的為他們協助好謝謝陳秀寶委員\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n15035\t42066\t謝謝主席 請卓榮泰院長 鄭麗君副院長以及楊振寧政委副院長不行 只有院長麻煩請卓院長備詢 還有哪一位部長副院長還有哪一位部長副院長 鄭副院長副院長不行那政委可以嗎可以 不行 不行 只有部長\n44142\t45823\t我們時間開始好嗎好 請政委好\n54934\t79372\t其實過去在新的會期開始本期都會覺得非常期待因為希望在新的會期開始我們能為國家盡力做事為台灣做事為人民服務為我們的地方爭取但其實這一屆開始每個會期我都覺得很焦慮很憂心因為面對在野黨的這些不管是一些違憲的法案一些不合理的煽動還有一些非法的這些法案都會覺得\n80233\t93504\t很焦慮那我想這也是我們行政團隊跟我們國人一起要面對的挑戰那剛才為什麼我也想請我們的副院長以及政委其實就是要先來詢問我們國人非常關心的對等關稅這個問題\n95846\t121639\t其實原本美方它有公佈豁免的名單包括像通訊產品筆電手機半導體都有入列但是後續川普的態度又很反覆所以現在目前的狀況是很撲朔迷離有我們副縣長領軍的談判團已經開始談判了我想知道說我想國人也非常關心說現在我們的整個談判的過程是樂觀的嗎有沒有好消息可以讓國人放心\n123814\t141057\t台灣能夠列在最優先談判的順序當中我想對整個談判團隊我們的感覺是非常士氣是高昂的至少我們之前所準備的所有的被討的方案可以在最優先的時間就把它有機會提出來\n142178\t165849\t單單是第一次的接觸視訊的談判那只是啟動了整個談判的程序後續還有雙方當天談之後的一些後續的準備資料還要持續的來做做好下一個階段的準備所以目前還在進行當中所以現在也還沒有辦法告訴國人說有沒有一個好的開始好的發展會有什麼樣的好消息讓大家稍微放心\n167010\t190231\t總統說這是一個順利的那副總統也表示這是一個非常正面的我也說這是一個非常健康的其實以我們鄭副院長以及楊政委的專業其實國人都對他們非常的支持 讚許我也相信說國人的這個信任跟厚望是他們的後盾那其實在這個氛圍上是很特別的全世界受到關注\n191272\t218372\t川普的這個關稅影響的國家大家都團結一致槍口對外希望爭取最有利的對國家最有利的一些相關的空間那只有台灣最特別只有台灣是在野黨一直在罵執政黨然後一直在扯後腿槍口是對內的所以我也相信說在這樣的氛圍之下呢我們的談判團壓力是蠻大的啦但是我也相信說我們談判團有這個能力為國家來爭取最有利的這個地位\n219173\t221677\t那在這個變動的關稅政策之下就會帶來不確定性的衝擊那豁免清單裡面沒有提到的相關的農業跟漁業跟相關的傳統的產業這些都會受到這些關稅的挑戰所以這邊我還是要再提出幾點\n234375\t249233\t第一个我希望说受到影响的这些产业的这些政府的相关补助包括不管是贷款又会贷款振兴的补助以及不同产业这些咨询窗口我们一定要加强宣传的管道\n249893\t277481\t來降低產業他們在聯繫上的時間跟成本讓他們在最快的時間可以知道他們相關的訊息得到他們所需要的支持第二個部分就是我們在研議對等關稅這個還沒有很明朗的情況之下有一些不得不實施無薪假的企業希望說我們可以針對他們受影響的這些相關的勞資的權益我們提供協助不管是津貼或者是相關的勞動契約我們都應該主動的來提供他們有這樣的訊息來協助他們\n279601\t285782\t再來我希望說應該區分不同的產業別包括像紡織一類工具機一類農業一類我們來組成這些唾銷的國家隊我們用團體團隊的力量向外去拓展聯合出擊我們才能創造多贏那第四個部分是我們現在國人也很擔心的就是我們要嚴防中國這邊有大量的傾銷變相的把我們台灣變成他們習產地的這樣子的一個做法\n306587\t320097\t所以說提升這個邊境檢查來維護我國商業安全也非常的重要那這個部分不知道現在行政院你們有什麼想應應的政策好 謝謝委員我想整個談判的過程很多的委員\n321596\t348067\t還有我們社會的很多人沒有辦法完全知道全貌難免心急這個我完全理解那我們的難處是我們也很難在這個時候基於談判的慣例跟雙方的默契沒有辦法全部的說出這也是我們的為難那只要國人給我們多一點的耐心跟時間我們好好的把這件事情進行那目前除了談判的主要內容就是對等關稅非關稅貿易障礙還包括了出口管制\n348707\t363412\t其他還有我們自己知道的包括你剛剛所說的違規轉運 息產地 反傾銷那違規轉運這個問題在台灣我們一定要徹底的來解決台灣不能成為這次世界貿易秩序重建的過程當中的一個破口\n364252\t390061\t會對我們自己的產業在國際上失去信任度也對我們國內的產業失去安定所以我們在事前要做好更多的預防工作事中要嚴格來查查所有進來台灣的產品但是事後如果發現的不法一律原程我們事前事中事後三道防線已經完成那現在我們會全面要求各主管的部會\n390649\t413063\t去直接有效的去執行這樣的工作所以針對這個部分關於洗產地的這樣子的我們已經有制定相關的一些措施那也希望說因為我有鄉親跟我提到說他在網路上啊就看到很多關於中國大陸一些廣告他告訴他說拼多多現在可以直接郵寄到台灣\n413783\t437340\t所以他們已經在打這樣子的廣告小額包裹又是另外一個議題所以也希望說我們國人有時候在不注意的情況之下如果有進行這樣子相關的這些採購的這些行為呢那在這個邊境包裹的這些盤查這個稽查的部分我也希望說我們能夠加強那其實我也非常謝謝我們院長上禮拜六你親自到我們彰化進行這個產業的聆聽之旅\n440042\t468651\t過去本席也一直要求說希望說我們政府可以多多的來聽產業的心聲雖然這次這個啟動的這個契機也許是因為危機但是我相信說只要我們肯來聽產業的聲音我們有這樣子的跟產業的互動我們真正的聽到他們的心聲我們才能夠制定更完整以及更全面的這些協助的方案那我再問一下其實院長剛剛意思就是說我們目前的談判其實是很正向的\n469976\t485225\t能夠排在最優先的這個順序裡面對我們來講是好事情其實因為我國的態度一直都非常的誠意也正向那我相信美方也會回應給我們相對等的這樣子的誠意讓我們的國人可以放心說不會再有更\n486820\t503912\t不好的消息傳出應該都是慢慢的是往好的方向來發展不過跟我們報告就是在4月3號之前其實我們已經陸續跟很多產業進行溝通只是那個時候真的是政策未明情勢未明大家只能只有一般的感受預防性的來談4月5號6號總統連續召集ICT產業跟中小企業也針對問題因為那個已經宣佈了32%的對等關稅5號6號就進行了更\n514417\t527865\t有效率的而且針對議題的討論那之後呢總統也到了台中我到了彰化到了高雄到了屏東各地我們看到了大概二三十個業者二三十種類的業者大家聚在一起不同的時間\n528649\t554563\t都是在談對業界最大的衝擊在哪裡那政府提出的支持方案能不能給業界比較安心的感覺我們得到的答案普遍上是肯定的但也感謝業者給我們更多的訊息希望我們還要補強哪一方面或是加大力道哪一方面這個我們都會在下禮拜對外公佈的整個支持方案的申請的時程內容跟程序方面一一的向國人做說明\n555143\t572749\t謝謝院長 所以在三個星期六 我也向院長您表達說你們要持續來收集業界的行程沒錯 我們成業之旅還會繼續走我們來滾動的來檢討 來提供他們最有力的協助那接下來我想請交通部陳部長麻煩請交通部長備選是\n584206\t611224\t部長好 院長部長本席要來繼續追蹤關心我們選區的重大建設首先就是行政院在去年3月核定的美港公路高降化這個工程那本席有先詢問過公路局目前是在綜合規劃的階段並且也同時進行環境影響評估預計在今年的6月會提出綜合規劃的期末報告那在這邊我想請教院長及部長可不可以給我們彰化鄉親一個承諾不會再拖延\n611704\t625231\t因為這個期程已經延宕了很久很久那鄉親也期待了很久也因為一直延宕我們都會擔心到最後計畫會有變那也希望知道到後續環評的期程是不是可以如期在115年的6月來完成\n628246\t650872\t交通部今年四月是在完成他的中規的期中報告請部長來說明報告委員今年的四月份四月底一定會完成他的期中報告這個部分沒有問題但之後的環評可能還需要一段時間這個部分我們也會照原本的期程跟您報告的期程下去完成可是那個期程應該環評的時間不太可能在115年的6月我們盡量趕\n652512\t672272\t因為當初會希望說有一些可以重疊的部分我們盡量把它的期程拉近不要就是一個拖一個會越拖越久主要是因為說美港公路它這個合併的金額高達167.84億那後續的建設計畫細部的設計以及用地取得還有施工其實都牽扯到我們行政院的預算\n672833\t700181\t那在財化法呢將我們中央大概28%都撥給地方之後呢中央補助地方的這個經費有沒有受到影響這也是鄉親非常非常擔心的那到時候我們美港公路這個計畫會不會因為有經費上的問題而沒有辦法完工這個部分民眾一直希望說我們政院這邊可以一個一個承諾就是說一定會來協助這個重大的交通建設可以完成財化法對中央的財政\n700765\t704129\t真的是發生了比較大的一些不良的影響\n705782\t733571\t如果現在這個現狀我們當然還要尋求憲法上的救濟在研議當中我說如果照這個現狀我許大家以為對今年沒有影響但是明年一定產生影響那如果我們對地方的補助他是跨年度的是是是連續性的如果今年做了補助明年沒有補助我想地方也很難在一時間完全的適應所以對很多的核定案我們現在是全部收回來重新再計算他的\n734597\t755739\t對地方補助的能量以及它的時程如何來做分配跟地方如何來分擔鄉親會覺得很著急啊就是如果這個時程越拖越久的話這個經費可能會有變所以會希望說我們行政院這邊和我們交通部盡量來協助就是盡快的把騎乘完成而且一定要完成這個對我們沿海鄉鎮非常重要的重大的交通建設所以我很希望\n756640\t784275\t維持中央財政能力地方所有的建設我們才能有效的繼續這是我期待如果財發法當時討論是有這樣的想法的話那至少他現在已經造成了一個存在的問題會有很大的衝擊這個我們真的非常的擔心所以這個部分我也希望說我們交通部這邊要緊盯相關的進度不要再延宕那同樣也是本席選區的建設還有在2月剛簽約完成的台61線的徵社入港休息站\n785135\t809230\t這個休息站對於本席的選區乃至彰化縣的鄉親意義都非常大因為這是第一個設立在彰化縣內的休息站彰化縣不會因為縣內沒有任何的休息站而一直只能被路過所以我們彰化鄉親十分的期待那公路許這邊是預計在三月份還是開設計標後續的規劃設計及施工期程目前有沒有個確定的時間\n810070\t834224\t報告委員目前我們正在設計規劃當中未來招標的過程當中我們也會積極來辦理這個休息站其實對於整個61號來講是非常重要的一個休息站我們會加速來辦理那今年底有沒有啟用的可能今年底怎麼樣今年底可以啟用嗎我們目前還要再招標還要一些時間但是我們盡量趕那行政院的預算是不是足夠支應\n836058\t861676\t這個計劃應該影響不大這個影響不大因為主要是我們自己公務局的休息站那第三個部分我要請教就是關於我們和美美寮路拖寬的問題美寮路是我們和美東西巷一個很主要的道路是地方上就是我們跟彰化市往來的主要要道那因為它在非都市計劃路段的現有路只有8米寬在尖峰的這個時段交通量很大尤其是上下雪的時間學生\n862757\t877902\t接送的家長跟大車是跟大車爭道是環向閒身說常常發生重大的車禍那終於在地方期盼已久的這樣子因應期盼之下我們在2023年6月爭取到中央的補助是4億1902萬但是現在連續兩次的土增小組會議都因為縣府這邊還要補充資料來做解\n885965\t914194\t所以這邊有兩個問題第一個還是鄉親關心的就是說這筆預算將來會不會因為拉了很長的時間一直延宕因為經費是有時效性的導致沒有辦法來做美寮路的拓寬第二個部分是說縣府如果一直沒有辦法處理居民的意見加上我們整個總預算的部分因為才劃反的部分讓美寮路拓寬的部分會不會讓居民失望\n914614\t916776\t這個已經核定的補助的金額這個不會變已經核定的補助金額不會變但是有沒有實效性\n925860\t948850\t這個應該不會有時效性啦但是地方政府他對於徵收的這個時效他自己要去加強這個不是中央能夠限制因為他已經走到土增了其實土增沒有問題的話就可以來動工土地的取得通常地方政府要來大力但我也希望說相關單位是不是可以盡力協助如果說縣府他比較力而未待或是他沒有那麼積極的話我們有沒有辦法可以予以協助讓這個進度可以再快一點我們可以來了解一下他的困難點在哪裡\n949434\t952278\t我們跟地方政府來瞭解他的困難點給予他們適時的為他們協助好 謝謝陳秀寶委員\n","txt":"謝謝主席 請卓榮泰院長 鄭麗君副院長以及楊振寧政委副院長不行 只有院長麻煩請卓院長備詢 還有哪一位部長副院長還有哪一位部長副院長 鄭副院長副院長不行那政委可以嗎可以 不行 不行 只有部長\n我們時間開始好嗎好 請政委好\n其實過去在新的會期開始本期都會覺得非常期待因為希望在新的會期開始我們能為國家盡力做事為台灣做事為人民服務為我們的地方爭取但其實這一屆開始每個會期我都覺得很焦慮很憂心因為面對在野黨的這些不管是一些違憲的法案一些不合理的煽動還有一些非法的這些法案都會覺得\n很焦慮那我想這也是我們行政團隊跟我們國人一起要面對的挑戰那剛才為什麼我也想請我們的副院長以及政委其實就是要先來詢問我們國人非常關心的對等關稅這個問題\n其實原本美方它有公佈豁免的名單包括像通訊產品筆電手機半導體都有入列但是後續川普的態度又很反覆所以現在目前的狀況是很撲朔迷離有我們副縣長領軍的談判團已經開始談判了我想知道說我想國人也非常關心說現在我們的整個談判的過程是樂觀的嗎有沒有好消息可以讓國人放心\n台灣能夠列在最優先談判的順序當中我想對整個談判團隊我們的感覺是非常士氣是高昂的至少我們之前所準備的所有的被討的方案可以在最優先的時間就把它有機會提出來\n單單是第一次的接觸視訊的談判那只是啟動了整個談判的程序後續還有雙方當天談之後的一些後續的準備資料還要持續的來做做好下一個階段的準備所以目前還在進行當中所以現在也還沒有辦法告訴國人說有沒有一個好的開始好的發展會有什麼樣的好消息讓大家稍微放心\n總統說這是一個順利的那副總統也表示這是一個非常正面的我也說這是一個非常健康的其實以我們鄭副院長以及楊政委的專業其實國人都對他們非常的支持 讚許我也相信說國人的這個信任跟厚望是他們的後盾那其實在這個氛圍上是很特別的全世界受到關注\n川普的這個關稅影響的國家大家都團結一致槍口對外希望爭取最有利的對國家最有利的一些相關的空間那只有台灣最特別只有台灣是在野黨一直在罵執政黨然後一直在扯後腿槍口是對內的所以我也相信說在這樣的氛圍之下呢我們的談判團壓力是蠻大的啦但是我也相信說我們談判團有這個能力為國家來爭取最有利的這個地位\n那在這個變動的關稅政策之下就會帶來不確定性的衝擊那豁免清單裡面沒有提到的相關的農業跟漁業跟相關的傳統的產業這些都會受到這些關稅的挑戰所以這邊我還是要再提出幾點\n第一个我希望说受到影响的这些产业的这些政府的相关补助包括不管是贷款又会贷款振兴的补助以及不同产业这些咨询窗口我们一定要加强宣传的管道\n來降低產業他們在聯繫上的時間跟成本讓他們在最快的時間可以知道他們相關的訊息得到他們所需要的支持第二個部分就是我們在研議對等關稅這個還沒有很明朗的情況之下有一些不得不實施無薪假的企業希望說我們可以針對他們受影響的這些相關的勞資的權益我們提供協助不管是津貼或者是相關的勞動契約我們都應該主動的來提供他們有這樣的訊息來協助他們\n再來我希望說應該區分不同的產業別包括像紡織一類工具機一類農業一類我們來組成這些唾銷的國家隊我們用團體團隊的力量向外去拓展聯合出擊我們才能創造多贏那第四個部分是我們現在國人也很擔心的就是我們要嚴防中國這邊有大量的傾銷變相的把我們台灣變成他們習產地的這樣子的一個做法\n所以說提升這個邊境檢查來維護我國商業安全也非常的重要那這個部分不知道現在行政院你們有什麼想應應的政策好 謝謝委員我想整個談判的過程很多的委員\n還有我們社會的很多人沒有辦法完全知道全貌難免心急這個我完全理解那我們的難處是我們也很難在這個時候基於談判的慣例跟雙方的默契沒有辦法全部的說出這也是我們的為難那只要國人給我們多一點的耐心跟時間我們好好的把這件事情進行那目前除了談判的主要內容就是對等關稅非關稅貿易障礙還包括了出口管制\n其他還有我們自己知道的包括你剛剛所說的違規轉運 息產地 反傾銷那違規轉運這個問題在台灣我們一定要徹底的來解決台灣不能成為這次世界貿易秩序重建的過程當中的一個破口\n會對我們自己的產業在國際上失去信任度也對我們國內的產業失去安定所以我們在事前要做好更多的預防工作事中要嚴格來查查所有進來台灣的產品但是事後如果發現的不法一律原程我們事前事中事後三道防線已經完成那現在我們會全面要求各主管的部會\n去直接有效的去執行這樣的工作所以針對這個部分關於洗產地的這樣子的我們已經有制定相關的一些措施那也希望說因為我有鄉親跟我提到說他在網路上啊就看到很多關於中國大陸一些廣告他告訴他說拼多多現在可以直接郵寄到台灣\n所以他們已經在打這樣子的廣告小額包裹又是另外一個議題所以也希望說我們國人有時候在不注意的情況之下如果有進行這樣子相關的這些採購的這些行為呢那在這個邊境包裹的這些盤查這個稽查的部分我也希望說我們能夠加強那其實我也非常謝謝我們院長上禮拜六你親自到我們彰化進行這個產業的聆聽之旅\n過去本席也一直要求說希望說我們政府可以多多的來聽產業的心聲雖然這次這個啟動的這個契機也許是因為危機但是我相信說只要我們肯來聽產業的聲音我們有這樣子的跟產業的互動我們真正的聽到他們的心聲我們才能夠制定更完整以及更全面的這些協助的方案那我再問一下其實院長剛剛意思就是說我們目前的談判其實是很正向的\n能夠排在最優先的這個順序裡面對我們來講是好事情其實因為我國的態度一直都非常的誠意也正向那我相信美方也會回應給我們相對等的這樣子的誠意讓我們的國人可以放心說不會再有更\n不好的消息傳出應該都是慢慢的是往好的方向來發展不過跟我們報告就是在4月3號之前其實我們已經陸續跟很多產業進行溝通只是那個時候真的是政策未明情勢未明大家只能只有一般的感受預防性的來談4月5號6號總統連續召集ICT產業跟中小企業也針對問題因為那個已經宣佈了32%的對等關稅5號6號就進行了更\n有效率的而且針對議題的討論那之後呢總統也到了台中我到了彰化到了高雄到了屏東各地我們看到了大概二三十個業者二三十種類的業者大家聚在一起不同的時間\n都是在談對業界最大的衝擊在哪裡那政府提出的支持方案能不能給業界比較安心的感覺我們得到的答案普遍上是肯定的但也感謝業者給我們更多的訊息希望我們還要補強哪一方面或是加大力道哪一方面這個我們都會在下禮拜對外公佈的整個支持方案的申請的時程內容跟程序方面一一的向國人做說明\n謝謝院長 所以在三個星期六 我也向院長您表達說你們要持續來收集業界的行程沒錯 我們成業之旅還會繼續走我們來滾動的來檢討 來提供他們最有力的協助那接下來我想請交通部陳部長麻煩請交通部長備選是\n部長好 院長部長本席要來繼續追蹤關心我們選區的重大建設首先就是行政院在去年3月核定的美港公路高降化這個工程那本席有先詢問過公路局目前是在綜合規劃的階段並且也同時進行環境影響評估預計在今年的6月會提出綜合規劃的期末報告那在這邊我想請教院長及部長可不可以給我們彰化鄉親一個承諾不會再拖延\n因為這個期程已經延宕了很久很久那鄉親也期待了很久也因為一直延宕我們都會擔心到最後計畫會有變那也希望知道到後續環評的期程是不是可以如期在115年的6月來完成\n交通部今年四月是在完成他的中規的期中報告請部長來說明報告委員今年的四月份四月底一定會完成他的期中報告這個部分沒有問題但之後的環評可能還需要一段時間這個部分我們也會照原本的期程跟您報告的期程下去完成可是那個期程應該環評的時間不太可能在115年的6月我們盡量趕\n因為當初會希望說有一些可以重疊的部分我們盡量把它的期程拉近不要就是一個拖一個會越拖越久主要是因為說美港公路它這個合併的金額高達167.84億那後續的建設計畫細部的設計以及用地取得還有施工其實都牽扯到我們行政院的預算\n那在財化法呢將我們中央大概28%都撥給地方之後呢中央補助地方的這個經費有沒有受到影響這也是鄉親非常非常擔心的那到時候我們美港公路這個計畫會不會因為有經費上的問題而沒有辦法完工這個部分民眾一直希望說我們政院這邊可以一個一個承諾就是說一定會來協助這個重大的交通建設可以完成財化法對中央的財政\n真的是發生了比較大的一些不良的影響\n如果現在這個現狀我們當然還要尋求憲法上的救濟在研議當中我說如果照這個現狀我許大家以為對今年沒有影響但是明年一定產生影響那如果我們對地方的補助他是跨年度的是是是連續性的如果今年做了補助明年沒有補助我想地方也很難在一時間完全的適應所以對很多的核定案我們現在是全部收回來重新再計算他的\n對地方補助的能量以及它的時程如何來做分配跟地方如何來分擔鄉親會覺得很著急啊就是如果這個時程越拖越久的話這個經費可能會有變所以會希望說我們行政院這邊和我們交通部盡量來協助就是盡快的把騎乘完成而且一定要完成這個對我們沿海鄉鎮非常重要的重大的交通建設所以我很希望\n維持中央財政能力地方所有的建設我們才能有效的繼續這是我期待如果財發法當時討論是有這樣的想法的話那至少他現在已經造成了一個存在的問題會有很大的衝擊這個我們真的非常的擔心所以這個部分我也希望說我們交通部這邊要緊盯相關的進度不要再延宕那同樣也是本席選區的建設還有在2月剛簽約完成的台61線的徵社入港休息站\n這個休息站對於本席的選區乃至彰化縣的鄉親意義都非常大因為這是第一個設立在彰化縣內的休息站彰化縣不會因為縣內沒有任何的休息站而一直只能被路過所以我們彰化鄉親十分的期待那公路許這邊是預計在三月份還是開設計標後續的規劃設計及施工期程目前有沒有個確定的時間\n報告委員目前我們正在設計規劃當中未來招標的過程當中我們也會積極來辦理這個休息站其實對於整個61號來講是非常重要的一個休息站我們會加速來辦理那今年底有沒有啟用的可能今年底怎麼樣今年底可以啟用嗎我們目前還要再招標還要一些時間但是我們盡量趕那行政院的預算是不是足夠支應\n這個計劃應該影響不大這個影響不大因為主要是我們自己公務局的休息站那第三個部分我要請教就是關於我們和美美寮路拖寬的問題美寮路是我們和美東西巷一個很主要的道路是地方上就是我們跟彰化市往來的主要要道那因為它在非都市計劃路段的現有路只有8米寬在尖峰的這個時段交通量很大尤其是上下雪的時間學生\n接送的家長跟大車是跟大車爭道是環向閒身說常常發生重大的車禍那終於在地方期盼已久的這樣子因應期盼之下我們在2023年6月爭取到中央的補助是4億1902萬但是現在連續兩次的土增小組會議都因為縣府這邊還要補充資料來做解\n所以這邊有兩個問題第一個還是鄉親關心的就是說這筆預算將來會不會因為拉了很長的時間一直延宕因為經費是有時效性的導致沒有辦法來做美寮路的拓寬第二個部分是說縣府如果一直沒有辦法處理居民的意見加上我們整個總預算的部分因為才劃反的部分讓美寮路拓寬的部分會不會讓居民失望\n這個已經核定的補助的金額這個不會變已經核定的補助金額不會變但是有沒有實效性\n這個應該不會有時效性啦但是地方政府他對於徵收的這個時效他自己要去加強這個不是中央能夠限制因為他已經走到土增了其實土增沒有問題的話就可以來動工土地的取得通常地方政府要來大力但我也希望說相關單位是不是可以盡力協助如果說縣府他比較力而未待或是他沒有那麼積極的話我們有沒有辦法可以予以協助讓這個進度可以再快一點我們可以來了解一下他的困難點在哪裡\n我們跟地方政府來瞭解他的困難點給予他們適時的為他們協助好 謝謝陳秀寶委員\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:15.035 --> 00:42.066\n謝謝主席請卓榮泰院長鄭麗君副院長以及楊振寧政委副院長不行只有院長麻煩請卓院長備詢還有哪一位部長副院長還有哪一位部長副院長鄭副院長副院長不行那政委可以嗎可以不行不行只有部長\n\n00:44.142 --> 00:45.823\n我們時間開始好嗎好請政委好\n\n00:54.934 --> 01:19.372\n其實過去在新的會期開始本期都會覺得非常期待因為希望在新的會期開始我們能為國家盡力做事為台灣做事為人民服務為我們的地方爭取但其實這一屆開始每個會期我都覺得很焦慮很憂心因為面對在野黨的這些不管是一些違憲的法案一些不合理的煽動還有一些非法的這些法案都會覺得\n\n01:20.233 --> 01:33.504\n很焦慮那我想這也是我們行政團隊跟我們國人一起要面對的挑戰那剛才為什麼我也想請我們的副院長以及政委其實就是要先來詢問我們國人非常關心的對等關稅這個問題\n\n01:35.846 --> 02:01.639\n其實原本美方它有公佈豁免的名單包括像通訊產品筆電手機半導體都有入列但是後續川普的態度又很反覆所以現在目前的狀況是很撲朔迷離有我們副縣長領軍的談判團已經開始談判了我想知道說我想國人也非常關心說現在我們的整個談判的過程是樂觀的嗎有沒有好消息可以讓國人放心\n\n02:03.814 --> 02:21.057\n台灣能夠列在最優先談判的順序當中我想對整個談判團隊我們的感覺是非常士氣是高昂的至少我們之前所準備的所有的被討的方案可以在最優先的時間就把它有機會提出來\n\n02:22.178 --> 02:45.849\n單單是第一次的接觸視訊的談判那只是啟動了整個談判的程序後續還有雙方當天談之後的一些後續的準備資料還要持續的來做做好下一個階段的準備所以目前還在進行當中所以現在也還沒有辦法告訴國人說有沒有一個好的開始好的發展會有什麼樣的好消息讓大家稍微放心\n\n02:47.010 --> 03:10.231\n總統說這是一個順利的那副總統也表示這是一個非常正面的我也說這是一個非常健康的其實以我們鄭副院長以及楊政委的專業其實國人都對他們非常的支持讚許我也相信說國人的這個信任跟厚望是他們的後盾那其實在這個氛圍上是很特別的全世界受到關注\n\n03:11.272 --> 03:38.372\n川普的這個關稅影響的國家大家都團結一致槍口對外希望爭取最有利的對國家最有利的一些相關的空間那只有台灣最特別只有台灣是在野黨一直在罵執政黨然後一直在扯後腿槍口是對內的所以我也相信說在這樣的氛圍之下呢我們的談判團壓力是蠻大的啦但是我也相信說我們談判團有這個能力為國家來爭取最有利的這個地位\n\n03:39.173 --> 03:41.677\n那在這個變動的關稅政策之下就會帶來不確定性的衝擊那豁免清單裡面沒有提到的相關的農業跟漁業跟相關的傳統的產業這些都會受到這些關稅的挑戰所以這邊我還是要再提出幾點\n\n03:54.375 --> 04:09.233\n第一个我希望说受到影响的这些产业的这些政府的相关补助包括不管是贷款又会贷款振兴的补助以及不同产业这些咨询窗口我们一定要加强宣传的管道\n\n04:09.893 --> 04:37.481\n來降低產業他們在聯繫上的時間跟成本讓他們在最快的時間可以知道他們相關的訊息得到他們所需要的支持第二個部分就是我們在研議對等關稅這個還沒有很明朗的情況之下有一些不得不實施無薪假的企業希望說我們可以針對他們受影響的這些相關的勞資的權益我們提供協助不管是津貼或者是相關的勞動契約我們都應該主動的來提供他們有這樣的訊息來協助他們\n\n04:39.601 --> 04:45.782\n再來我希望說應該區分不同的產業別包括像紡織一類工具機一類農業一類我們來組成這些唾銷的國家隊我們用團體團隊的力量向外去拓展聯合出擊我們才能創造多贏那第四個部分是我們現在國人也很擔心的就是我們要嚴防中國這邊有大量的傾銷變相的把我們台灣變成他們習產地的這樣子的一個做法\n\n05:06.587 --> 05:20.097\n所以說提升這個邊境檢查來維護我國商業安全也非常的重要那這個部分不知道現在行政院你們有什麼想應應的政策好謝謝委員我想整個談判的過程很多的委員\n\n05:21.596 --> 05:48.067\n還有我們社會的很多人沒有辦法完全知道全貌難免心急這個我完全理解那我們的難處是我們也很難在這個時候基於談判的慣例跟雙方的默契沒有辦法全部的說出這也是我們的為難那只要國人給我們多一點的耐心跟時間我們好好的把這件事情進行那目前除了談判的主要內容就是對等關稅非關稅貿易障礙還包括了出口管制\n\n05:48.707 --> 06:03.412\n其他還有我們自己知道的包括你剛剛所說的違規轉運息產地反傾銷那違規轉運這個問題在台灣我們一定要徹底的來解決台灣不能成為這次世界貿易秩序重建的過程當中的一個破口\n\n06:04.252 --> 06:30.061\n會對我們自己的產業在國際上失去信任度也對我們國內的產業失去安定所以我們在事前要做好更多的預防工作事中要嚴格來查查所有進來台灣的產品但是事後如果發現的不法一律原程我們事前事中事後三道防線已經完成那現在我們會全面要求各主管的部會\n\n06:30.649 --> 06:53.063\n去直接有效的去執行這樣的工作所以針對這個部分關於洗產地的這樣子的我們已經有制定相關的一些措施那也希望說因為我有鄉親跟我提到說他在網路上啊就看到很多關於中國大陸一些廣告他告訴他說拼多多現在可以直接郵寄到台灣\n\n06:53.783 --> 07:17.340\n所以他們已經在打這樣子的廣告小額包裹又是另外一個議題所以也希望說我們國人有時候在不注意的情況之下如果有進行這樣子相關的這些採購的這些行為呢那在這個邊境包裹的這些盤查這個稽查的部分我也希望說我們能夠加強那其實我也非常謝謝我們院長上禮拜六你親自到我們彰化進行這個產業的聆聽之旅\n\n07:20.042 --> 07:48.651\n過去本席也一直要求說希望說我們政府可以多多的來聽產業的心聲雖然這次這個啟動的這個契機也許是因為危機但是我相信說只要我們肯來聽產業的聲音我們有這樣子的跟產業的互動我們真正的聽到他們的心聲我們才能夠制定更完整以及更全面的這些協助的方案那我再問一下其實院長剛剛意思就是說我們目前的談判其實是很正向的\n\n07:49.976 --> 08:05.225\n能夠排在最優先的這個順序裡面對我們來講是好事情其實因為我國的態度一直都非常的誠意也正向那我相信美方也會回應給我們相對等的這樣子的誠意讓我們的國人可以放心說不會再有更\n\n08:06.820 --> 08:23.912\n不好的消息傳出應該都是慢慢的是往好的方向來發展不過跟我們報告就是在4月3號之前其實我們已經陸續跟很多產業進行溝通只是那個時候真的是政策未明情勢未明大家只能只有一般的感受預防性的來談4月5號6號總統連續召集ICT產業跟中小企業也針對問題因為那個已經宣佈了32%的對等關稅5號6號就進行了更\n\n08:34.417 --> 08:47.865\n有效率的而且針對議題的討論那之後呢總統也到了台中我到了彰化到了高雄到了屏東各地我們看到了大概二三十個業者二三十種類的業者大家聚在一起不同的時間\n\n08:48.649 --> 09:14.563\n都是在談對業界最大的衝擊在哪裡那政府提出的支持方案能不能給業界比較安心的感覺我們得到的答案普遍上是肯定的但也感謝業者給我們更多的訊息希望我們還要補強哪一方面或是加大力道哪一方面這個我們都會在下禮拜對外公佈的整個支持方案的申請的時程內容跟程序方面一一的向國人做說明\n\n09:15.143 --> 09:32.749\n謝謝院長所以在三個星期六我也向院長您表達說你們要持續來收集業界的行程沒錯我們成業之旅還會繼續走我們來滾動的來檢討來提供他們最有力的協助那接下來我想請交通部陳部長麻煩請交通部長備選是\n\n09:44.206 --> 10:11.224\n部長好院長部長本席要來繼續追蹤關心我們選區的重大建設首先就是行政院在去年3月核定的美港公路高降化這個工程那本席有先詢問過公路局目前是在綜合規劃的階段並且也同時進行環境影響評估預計在今年的6月會提出綜合規劃的期末報告那在這邊我想請教院長及部長可不可以給我們彰化鄉親一個承諾不會再拖延\n\n10:11.704 --> 10:25.231\n因為這個期程已經延宕了很久很久那鄉親也期待了很久也因為一直延宕我們都會擔心到最後計畫會有變那也希望知道到後續環評的期程是不是可以如期在115年的6月來完成\n\n10:28.246 --> 10:50.872\n交通部今年四月是在完成他的中規的期中報告請部長來說明報告委員今年的四月份四月底一定會完成他的期中報告這個部分沒有問題但之後的環評可能還需要一段時間這個部分我們也會照原本的期程跟您報告的期程下去完成可是那個期程應該環評的時間不太可能在115年的6月我們盡量趕\n\n10:52.512 --> 11:12.272\n因為當初會希望說有一些可以重疊的部分我們盡量把它的期程拉近不要就是一個拖一個會越拖越久主要是因為說美港公路它這個合併的金額高達167.84億那後續的建設計畫細部的設計以及用地取得還有施工其實都牽扯到我們行政院的預算\n\n11:12.833 --> 11:40.181\n那在財化法呢將我們中央大概28%都撥給地方之後呢中央補助地方的這個經費有沒有受到影響這也是鄉親非常非常擔心的那到時候我們美港公路這個計畫會不會因為有經費上的問題而沒有辦法完工這個部分民眾一直希望說我們政院這邊可以一個一個承諾就是說一定會來協助這個重大的交通建設可以完成財化法對中央的財政\n\n11:40.765 --> 11:44.129\n真的是發生了比較大的一些不良的影響\n\n11:45.782 --> 12:13.571\n如果現在這個現狀我們當然還要尋求憲法上的救濟在研議當中我說如果照這個現狀我許大家以為對今年沒有影響但是明年一定產生影響那如果我們對地方的補助他是跨年度的是是是連續性的如果今年做了補助明年沒有補助我想地方也很難在一時間完全的適應所以對很多的核定案我們現在是全部收回來重新再計算他的\n\n12:14.597 --> 12:35.739\n對地方補助的能量以及它的時程如何來做分配跟地方如何來分擔鄉親會覺得很著急啊就是如果這個時程越拖越久的話這個經費可能會有變所以會希望說我們行政院這邊和我們交通部盡量來協助就是盡快的把騎乘完成而且一定要完成這個對我們沿海鄉鎮非常重要的重大的交通建設所以我很希望\n\n12:36.640 --> 13:04.275\n維持中央財政能力地方所有的建設我們才能有效的繼續這是我期待如果財發法當時討論是有這樣的想法的話那至少他現在已經造成了一個存在的問題會有很大的衝擊這個我們真的非常的擔心所以這個部分我也希望說我們交通部這邊要緊盯相關的進度不要再延宕那同樣也是本席選區的建設還有在2月剛簽約完成的台61線的徵社入港休息站\n\n13:05.135 --> 13:29.230\n這個休息站對於本席的選區乃至彰化縣的鄉親意義都非常大因為這是第一個設立在彰化縣內的休息站彰化縣不會因為縣內沒有任何的休息站而一直只能被路過所以我們彰化鄉親十分的期待那公路許這邊是預計在三月份還是開設計標後續的規劃設計及施工期程目前有沒有個確定的時間\n\n13:30.070 --> 13:54.224\n報告委員目前我們正在設計規劃當中未來招標的過程當中我們也會積極來辦理這個休息站其實對於整個61號來講是非常重要的一個休息站我們會加速來辦理那今年底有沒有啟用的可能今年底怎麼樣今年底可以啟用嗎我們目前還要再招標還要一些時間但是我們盡量趕那行政院的預算是不是足夠支應\n\n13:56.058 --> 14:21.676\n這個計劃應該影響不大這個影響不大因為主要是我們自己公務局的休息站那第三個部分我要請教就是關於我們和美美寮路拖寬的問題美寮路是我們和美東西巷一個很主要的道路是地方上就是我們跟彰化市往來的主要要道那因為它在非都市計劃路段的現有路只有8米寬在尖峰的這個時段交通量很大尤其是上下雪的時間學生\n\n14:22.757 --> 14:37.902\n接送的家長跟大車是跟大車爭道是環向閒身說常常發生重大的車禍那終於在地方期盼已久的這樣子因應期盼之下我們在2023年6月爭取到中央的補助是4億1902萬但是現在連續兩次的土增小組會議都因為縣府這邊還要補充資料來做解\n\n14:45.965 --> 15:14.194\n所以這邊有兩個問題第一個還是鄉親關心的就是說這筆預算將來會不會因為拉了很長的時間一直延宕因為經費是有時效性的導致沒有辦法來做美寮路的拓寬第二個部分是說縣府如果一直沒有辦法處理居民的意見加上我們整個總預算的部分因為才劃反的部分讓美寮路拓寬的部分會不會讓居民失望\n\n15:14.614 --> 15:16.776\n這個已經核定的補助的金額這個不會變已經核定的補助金額不會變但是有沒有實效性\n\n15:25.860 --> 15:48.850\n這個應該不會有時效性啦但是地方政府他對於徵收的這個時效他自己要去加強這個不是中央能夠限制因為他已經走到土增了其實土增沒有問題的話就可以來動工土地的取得通常地方政府要來大力但我也希望說相關單位是不是可以盡力協助如果說縣府他比較力而未待或是他沒有那麼積極的話我們有沒有辦法可以予以協助讓這個進度可以再快一點我們可以來了解一下他的困難點在哪裡\n\n15:49.434 --> 15:52.278\n我們跟地方政府來瞭解他的困難點給予他們適時的為他們協助好謝謝陳秀寶委員\n\n","segments":[{"start":15.035,"end":42.066,"text":"謝謝主席 請卓榮泰院長 鄭麗君副院長以及楊振寧政委副院長不行 只有院長麻煩請卓院長備詢 還有哪一位部長副院長還有哪一位部長副院長 鄭副院長副院長不行那政委可以嗎可以 不行 不行 只有部長"},{"start":44.142,"end":45.823,"text":"我們時間開始好嗎好 請政委好"},{"start":54.934,"end":79.372,"text":"其實過去在新的會期開始本期都會覺得非常期待因為希望在新的會期開始我們能為國家盡力做事為台灣做事為人民服務為我們的地方爭取但其實這一屆開始每個會期我都覺得很焦慮很憂心因為面對在野黨的這些不管是一些違憲的法案一些不合理的煽動還有一些非法的這些法案都會覺得"},{"start":80.233,"end":93.504,"text":"很焦慮那我想這也是我們行政團隊跟我們國人一起要面對的挑戰那剛才為什麼我也想請我們的副院長以及政委其實就是要先來詢問我們國人非常關心的對等關稅這個問題"},{"start":95.846,"end":121.639,"text":"其實原本美方它有公佈豁免的名單包括像通訊產品筆電手機半導體都有入列但是後續川普的態度又很反覆所以現在目前的狀況是很撲朔迷離有我們副縣長領軍的談判團已經開始談判了我想知道說我想國人也非常關心說現在我們的整個談判的過程是樂觀的嗎有沒有好消息可以讓國人放心"},{"start":123.814,"end":141.057,"text":"台灣能夠列在最優先談判的順序當中我想對整個談判團隊我們的感覺是非常士氣是高昂的至少我們之前所準備的所有的被討的方案可以在最優先的時間就把它有機會提出來"},{"start":142.178,"end":165.849,"text":"單單是第一次的接觸視訊的談判那只是啟動了整個談判的程序後續還有雙方當天談之後的一些後續的準備資料還要持續的來做做好下一個階段的準備所以目前還在進行當中所以現在也還沒有辦法告訴國人說有沒有一個好的開始好的發展會有什麼樣的好消息讓大家稍微放心"},{"start":167.01,"end":190.231,"text":"總統說這是一個順利的那副總統也表示這是一個非常正面的我也說這是一個非常健康的其實以我們鄭副院長以及楊政委的專業其實國人都對他們非常的支持 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所以在三個星期六 我也向院長您表達說你們要持續來收集業界的行程沒錯 我們成業之旅還會繼續走我們來滾動的來檢討 來提供他們最有力的協助那接下來我想請交通部陳部長麻煩請交通部長備選是"},{"start":584.206,"end":611.224,"text":"部長好 院長部長本席要來繼續追蹤關心我們選區的重大建設首先就是行政院在去年3月核定的美港公路高降化這個工程那本席有先詢問過公路局目前是在綜合規劃的階段並且也同時進行環境影響評估預計在今年的6月會提出綜合規劃的期末報告那在這邊我想請教院長及部長可不可以給我們彰化鄉親一個承諾不會再拖延"},{"start":611.704,"end":625.231,"text":"因為這個期程已經延宕了很久很久那鄉親也期待了很久也因為一直延宕我們都會擔心到最後計畫會有變那也希望知道到後續環評的期程是不是可以如期在115年的6月來完成"},{"start":628.246,"end":650.872,"text":"交通部今年四月是在完成他的中規的期中報告請部長來說明報告委員今年的四月份四月底一定會完成他的期中報告這個部分沒有問題但之後的環評可能還需要一段時間這個部分我們也會照原本的期程跟您報告的期程下去完成可是那個期程應該環評的時間不太可能在115年的6月我們盡量趕"},{"start":652.512,"end":672.272,"text":"因為當初會希望說有一些可以重疊的部分我們盡量把它的期程拉近不要就是一個拖一個會越拖越久主要是因為說美港公路它這個合併的金額高達167.84億那後續的建設計畫細部的設計以及用地取得還有施工其實都牽扯到我們行政院的預算"},{"start":672.833,"end":700.181,"text":"那在財化法呢將我們中央大概28%都撥給地方之後呢中央補助地方的這個經費有沒有受到影響這也是鄉親非常非常擔心的那到時候我們美港公路這個計畫會不會因為有經費上的問題而沒有辦法完工這個部分民眾一直希望說我們政院這邊可以一個一個承諾就是說一定會來協助這個重大的交通建設可以完成財化法對中央的財政"},{"start":700.765,"end":704.129,"text":"真的是發生了比較大的一些不良的影響"},{"start":705.782,"end":733.571,"text":"如果現在這個現狀我們當然還要尋求憲法上的救濟在研議當中我說如果照這個現狀我許大家以為對今年沒有影響但是明年一定產生影響那如果我們對地方的補助他是跨年度的是是是連續性的如果今年做了補助明年沒有補助我想地方也很難在一時間完全的適應所以對很多的核定案我們現在是全部收回來重新再計算他的"},{"start":734.597,"end":755.739,"text":"對地方補助的能量以及它的時程如何來做分配跟地方如何來分擔鄉親會覺得很著急啊就是如果這個時程越拖越久的話這個經費可能會有變所以會希望說我們行政院這邊和我們交通部盡量來協助就是盡快的把騎乘完成而且一定要完成這個對我們沿海鄉鎮非常重要的重大的交通建設所以我很希望"},{"start":756.64,"end":784.275,"text":"維持中央財政能力地方所有的建設我們才能有效的繼續這是我期待如果財發法當時討論是有這樣的想法的話那至少他現在已經造成了一個存在的問題會有很大的衝擊這個我們真的非常的擔心所以這個部分我也希望說我們交通部這邊要緊盯相關的進度不要再延宕那同樣也是本席選區的建設還有在2月剛簽約完成的台61線的徵社入港休息站"},{"start":785.135,"end":809.23,"text":"這個休息站對於本席的選區乃至彰化縣的鄉親意義都非常大因為這是第一個設立在彰化縣內的休息站彰化縣不會因為縣內沒有任何的休息站而一直只能被路過所以我們彰化鄉親十分的期待那公路許這邊是預計在三月份還是開設計標後續的規劃設計及施工期程目前有沒有個確定的時間"},{"start":810.07,"end":834.224,"text":"報告委員目前我們正在設計規劃當中未來招標的過程當中我們也會積極來辦理這個休息站其實對於整個61號來講是非常重要的一個休息站我們會加速來辦理那今年底有沒有啟用的可能今年底怎麼樣今年底可以啟用嗎我們目前還要再招標還要一些時間但是我們盡量趕那行政院的預算是不是足夠支應"},{"start":836.058,"end":861.676,"text":"這個計劃應該影響不大這個影響不大因為主要是我們自己公務局的休息站那第三個部分我要請教就是關於我們和美美寮路拖寬的問題美寮路是我們和美東西巷一個很主要的道路是地方上就是我們跟彰化市往來的主要要道那因為它在非都市計劃路段的現有路只有8米寬在尖峰的這個時段交通量很大尤其是上下雪的時間學生"},{"start":862.757,"end":877.902,"text":"接送的家長跟大車是跟大車爭道是環向閒身說常常發生重大的車禍那終於在地方期盼已久的這樣子因應期盼之下我們在2023年6月爭取到中央的補助是4億1902萬但是現在連續兩次的土增小組會議都因為縣府這邊還要補充資料來做解"},{"start":885.965,"end":914.194,"text":"所以這邊有兩個問題第一個還是鄉親關心的就是說這筆預算將來會不會因為拉了很長的時間一直延宕因為經費是有時效性的導致沒有辦法來做美寮路的拓寬第二個部分是說縣府如果一直沒有辦法處理居民的意見加上我們整個總預算的部分因為才劃反的部分讓美寮路拓寬的部分會不會讓居民失望"},{"start":914.614,"end":916.776,"text":"這個已經核定的補助的金額這個不會變已經核定的補助金額不會變但是有沒有實效性"},{"start":925.86,"end":948.85,"text":"這個應該不會有時效性啦但是地方政府他對於徵收的這個時效他自己要去加強這個不是中央能夠限制因為他已經走到土增了其實土增沒有問題的話就可以來動工土地的取得通常地方政府要來大力但我也希望說相關單位是不是可以盡力協助如果說縣府他比較力而未待或是他沒有那麼積極的話我們有沒有辦法可以予以協助讓這個進度可以再快一點我們可以來了解一下他的困難點在哪裡"},{"start":949.434,"end":952.278,"text":"我們跟地方政府來瞭解他的困難點給予他們適時的為他們協助好 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