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00:00:47,037\n委員好部長你好部長我請教因為去年稅收3.7兆超徵5283億主要的貢獻來自證交稅中所稅還有營業稅以及營所稅其中又以證交稅全年的整個成長907億元年增率達到46%\n\n3\n00:00:52,442 --> 00:00:57,885\n居首工那禮拜一財政部公布第一季的稅收5540億元比去年同期減少了36億元\n\n4\n00:01:05,578 --> 00:01:32,466\n那其中光是證交稅單月10增219億元219億元年減就是72億元成也是證交稅敗也是證交稅那如果以川普關稅的整個觀點分析請問部長你認為第二季過後甚至於今年全年的證交稅有機會維持去年的水準嗎\n\n5\n00:01:34,570 --> 00:01:38,845\n跟委員報告確實如委員所說的我們今年到3月為止的\n\n6\n00:01:39,378 --> 00:02:06,928\n持徵數是比去年少了36億這次裡面政交稅就少了52億那也就跟委員說其實因為股票市場和這個國際的政經情勢有相當高的聯動而且跟美國的股市更有相當聯動所以它的成交量其實也有相當幅度的一個變化所以說你認為有大有大到五六千億小有小到只有兩千多億所以這個部分因為有很多不確定的因素在裡面所以會影響到\n\n7\n00:02:08,288 --> 00:02:22,483\n股市的一個動能那這個部分我們會持續的觀察那依林判斷今年會不會難逃這個衰退的命運依目前這樣看當然因為相關的關稅政策的不確定會影響到國際貿易的成長的動能\n\n8\n00:02:24,878 --> 00:02:51,579\n那這個部分大家也都各個國家也都非常的關注我想這個部分但是一到三月份其實我們的出口出口其實是成長的是比去年成長那當然有含在因為關稅的因素而大家都在拉貨所以我們出口是做成長的那另外也要跟委員報告就是說因為有關美國這個關稅的衝擊所以我們在五月份的所得稅申報的部分期間也把它延長\n\n9\n00:02:52,680 --> 00:03:14,701\n到6月底同時對有受到衝擊的不管是個人也好營利事業也好可以申請延期或者是分三年繳納那這個部分跟稅收都會有相關的一些連動的影響部長3月下旬央行公布整個經濟預測下修今年的整個經濟成長率達到就是只有到3.05%啦最近\n\n10\n00:03:17,383 --> 00:03:32,613\n大摩外資券商還預測川普的關稅政策會讓以出口為導向的我們整個台灣的經濟今年的GDP成長整個預估下修到2.2%那我請問部長你認為這個可能性是最壞的狀況嗎\n\n11\n00:03:40,253 --> 00:04:03,238\n我想對於這個關稅的影響行政院還有我們的經貿工作的談判小組都在努力希望能夠在爭取國家最大利益以及維護我們廠商產業的國際競爭力都在做努力那我也希望這個能夠爭取到最好以後對我們的產業以及衝擊市場的大家最小的打拚影響這個大家都知道了那個部長\n\n12\n00:04:04,458 --> 00:04:25,348\n為因應大陸產品低價傾銷及透過台灣席產地財政部採事前預防事中嚴查以及事後這個研劃整個三道的黃線那我請問部長目前哪些大陸產品是事前預防的重點項目因您看\n\n13\n00:04:26,834 --> 00:04:39,352\n目前來說對於大陸在對美國他有課徵反傾銷稅的以及屬於301條款裡面他課徵高關稅的部分是我們列為最高風險的部分那未來由於這個美國對於中國大陸課徵145%的高關稅\n\n14\n00:04:43,457 --> 00:05:03,684\n那個差距這麼大會可能連其他貨品都會有可能會轉做違規轉運到台灣來所以這個部分我們除了在三道防線之外我們會再做一個精進的一段精進的措施讓台灣不能成為洗產地的一個地方那我請教部長換句話說現階段的是有哪些高風險的貨物篩選高風險廠商有沒有出現盲區啊有沒有\n\n15\n00:05:13,823 --> 00:05:40,419\n這個部分也就是我們持續的一直在進行在這個部分您講的盲區的部分也就是我們要再進一步的來做那個部長現階段哪些種類的大陸產品財政部必須採取適中嚴查的這個方式才能夠有效防堵低價傾銷台灣甚至於透過台灣來洗產地銷售到美國目前呢\n\n16\n00:05:42,059 --> 00:05:44,062\n目前來說當然高風險產品我們還是對於美國對他們課徵反傾銷稅跟301條款高關稅的部分那未來我們會擴大查查的範圍而且會強那個強度也會加強我們以各官會以官務長\n\n17\n00:05:58,295 --> 00:06:14,435\n帶隊組成一個小組做專案的棋查而且密度也會加強避免形成這個他們想要違規轉運的目的那當然我們這裡也請所有廠商也要知道千萬不要以身試法不要以身試法那麼也如果有這種情況也歡迎來檢舉\n\n18\n00:06:16,684 --> 00:06:33,117\n那個部長這是政府事後處罰的做法財政部處罰的對象有哪些會不會因為川普關稅政策擴大處罰對象的範圍會不會啊對於有關他違規這個標示不實或申報不實的部分我們會依照貿易法移給國貿署來做懲罰\n\n19\n00:06:42,930 --> 00:06:54,922\n那最高可以拔到300而且可以或者是禁止輸出入營業那另外在自由貿易港區我們是依照自由貿易港區的條例來做移情處罰那對於相關罰則的部分我們希望能夠重罰讓這個避免以身試法部長美國海關檢視產地啊那這個\n\n20\n00:07:03,171 --> 00:07:10,801\n不僅大部分採個案來認定而且判定的原則更為多樣複雜國內產業重難是取得國內\n\n21\n00:07:16,039 --> 00:07:37,200\nMIT的認證也可能受到挑戰那針對美國海關原產地認定個案的做法配合這次整個川普關稅政策的實施請問部長財政部有統計過有哪些外銷美國的國內產業可能成為重點觀察的指標\n\n22\n00:07:38,749 --> 00:07:48,915\n我想我們每一樣產品都每一樣出口貨物都要做嚴格的審查那對於原產地證明怎麼樣的合法以及標準國貿署這個部分剛剛我們那個國貿經濟部的次長也有詳細的一個說明這個部分會持續的精進\n\n23\n00:07:56,210 --> 00:08:19,980\n兩個部長針對大陸產品低價傾銷習產地的策略川普似乎把戰線拉到美國境外那我請問部長你認為這個有效可行嗎對於習產地本身就是違法的一個行為這個部分我們當然是要嚴格的查查跟執行如果有違反的話就要懲罰嘛\n\n24\n00:08:20,814 --> 00:08:48,788\n部長因為卓榮泰卓院長說美國非常在意稀產地的問題未來中國到美國稅率都非常的高那中國產品會向世界各地來流竄最有可能跑到台灣來經過小三通就進來那部長政府竟然意見大陸產品將無路可銷\n\n25\n00:08:49,969 --> 00:08:59,773\n的大量這個低價的來傾銷到台灣來甚至於以加工的方式來吸產地那我請問部長大陸台商會不會成為大陸產品低價傾銷台灣的破口會不會\n\n26\n00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:23,701\n我想對於是不是低價請銷的部分我們剛剛報告裡面它有一定的制度跟怎樣來認定那都是我們依照WTO的規定所以會調查第一個有沒有低價請銷這個低價就是說它出口到我們這邊來的價格比它在國內正常銷售價格來的低甚至有影響到\n\n27\n00:09:25,001 --> 00:09:53,450\n國內產業的部分都會構成所謂的一個傾銷我們依照會刻意反傾銷稅新南向國家的這些台商會不會也成為大陸的產品轉運加工低價傾銷的破口會不會所有的破口我們都必須要防堵面對可能產生的破口你認為有沒有辦法可以阻絕在境外有沒有辦法\n\n28\n00:09:54,935 --> 00:10:14,607\n當然這個部分涉及到這個進口那進口以後他是不是往哪裡去這個部分我們也是要查查的是部長川普關稅政策新南向國家也在名單中上個禮拜財委會質詢時央行總裁曾說新南向國家萬一啊受關稅這關稅戰的影響政府也會調整相關的政策內容\n\n29\n00:10:18,809 --> 00:10:40,020\n然而就本席了解由於不少廠商採自中國進口原料或半成品台灣加工製造再出口到美國的模式所以預期新南向國家發展的台商恐怕容易受到美國海關高標準的檢視那我請問部長\n\n30\n00:10:41,761 --> 00:11:08,531\n現階段針對這些在新南向國家發展的台商政府能夠給予他們有哪些的幫助我想新南向在新南向國家裡面做這個製造或營運的台灣的廠商就政府來說第一個他只要正常營運不管是我們輸出銀行或者我們公股銀行對正常營運的廠商當然應該在金融上還給予支援\n\n31\n00:11:09,793 --> 00:11:29,231\n那至於如果他們要回台灣來投資的話那台灣也會背後相關的條件然後協助他們回台投資或轉向到其他國家的投資最後一個過去因為美國去中化的政策全球電子產業這個產業鏈積極的分散整個大陸生產的比重那朝東南亞等歷代發展\n\n32\n00:11:35,436 --> 00:11:56,088\n那國內有許多上市櫃電子產業的公司未配合政府新南向政策新南向國家更成為熱點整個投資區域那我請問部長像川普關稅政策下的台商投資成本獲利空間會不會相對出現成品價格上漲\n\n33\n00:11:57,529 --> 00:12:21,206\n那這個成本提升獲利當然減少的情況財政部的稅收會不會因此受到影響會不會如果收入減少的話當然會影響到稅收會影響到稅收那你們認為稅收的影響大致上大概依據會出現有哪些稅損這個稅損的計算還是要看最後它實際的影響程度\n\n34\n00:12:25,209 --> 00:12:29,602\n我是希望說我們要事前的一個預防啦這個很重要謝謝\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n13741\t16523\t謝謝主席是不是請財政部莊部長請莊部長\n25598\t47037\t委員好部長你好部長我請教因為去年稅收3.7兆超徵5283億主要的貢獻來自證交稅中所稅還有營業稅以及營所稅其中又以證交稅全年的整個成長907億元年增率達到46%\n52442\t57885\t居首工那禮拜一財政部公布第一季的稅收5540億元比去年同期減少了36億元\n65578\t92466\t那其中光是證交稅單月10增219億元219億元年減就是72億元成也是證交稅敗也是證交稅那如果以川普關稅的整個觀點分析請問部長你認為第二季過後甚至於今年全年的證交稅有機會維持去年的水準嗎\n94570\t98845\t跟委員報告確實如委員所說的我們今年到3月為止的\n99378\t126928\t持徵數是比去年少了36億這次裡面政交稅就少了52億那也就跟委員說其實因為股票市場和這個國際的政經情勢有相當高的聯動而且跟美國的股市更有相當聯動所以它的成交量其實也有相當幅度的一個變化所以說你認為有大有大到五六千億小有小到只有兩千多億所以這個部分因為有很多不確定的因素在裡面所以會影響到\n128288\t142483\t股市的一個動能那這個部分我們會持續的觀察那依林判斷今年會不會難逃這個衰退的命運依目前這樣看當然因為相關的關稅政策的不確定會影響到國際貿易的成長的動能\n144878\t171579\t那這個部分大家也都各個國家也都非常的關注我想這個部分但是一到三月份其實我們的出口出口其實是成長的是比去年成長那當然有含在因為關稅的因素而大家都在拉貨所以我們出口是做成長的那另外也要跟委員報告就是說因為有關美國這個關稅的衝擊所以我們在五月份的所得稅申報的部分期間也把它延長\n172680\t194701\t到6月底同時對有受到衝擊的不管是個人也好營利事業也好可以申請延期或者是分三年繳納那這個部分跟稅收都會有相關的一些連動的影響部長3月下旬央行公布整個經濟預測下修今年的整個經濟成長率達到就是只有到3.05%啦最近\n197383\t212613\t大摩外資券商還預測川普的關稅政策會讓以出口為導向的我們整個台灣的經濟今年的GDP成長整個預估下修到2.2%那我請問部長你認為這個可能性是最壞的狀況嗎\n220253\t243238\t我想對於這個關稅的影響行政院還有我們的經貿工作的談判小組都在努力希望能夠在爭取國家最大利益以及維護我們廠商產業的國際競爭力都在做努力那我也希望這個能夠爭取到最好以後對我們的產業以及衝擊市場的大家最小的打拚影響這個大家都知道了那個部長\n244458\t265348\t為因應大陸產品低價傾銷及透過台灣席產地財政部採事前預防事中嚴查以及事後這個研劃整個三道的黃線那我請問部長目前哪些大陸產品是事前預防的重點項目因您看\n266834\t279352\t目前來說對於大陸在對美國他有課徵反傾銷稅的以及屬於301條款裡面他課徵高關稅的部分是我們列為最高風險的部分那未來由於這個美國對於中國大陸課徵145%的高關稅\n283457\t303684\t那個差距這麼大會可能連其他貨品都會有可能會轉做違規轉運到台灣來所以這個部分我們除了在三道防線之外我們會再做一個精進的一段精進的措施讓台灣不能成為洗產地的一個地方那我請教部長換句話說現階段的是有哪些高風險的貨物篩選高風險廠商有沒有出現盲區啊有沒有\n313823\t340419\t這個部分也就是我們持續的一直在進行在這個部分您講的盲區的部分也就是我們要再進一步的來做那個部長現階段哪些種類的大陸產品財政部必須採取適中嚴查的這個方式才能夠有效防堵低價傾銷台灣甚至於透過台灣來洗產地銷售到美國目前呢\n342059\t344062\t目前來說當然高風險產品我們還是對於美國對他們課徵反傾銷稅跟301條款高關稅的部分那未來我們會擴大查查的範圍而且會強那個強度也會加強我們以各官會以官務長\n358295\t374435\t帶隊組成一個小組做專案的棋查而且密度也會加強避免形成這個他們想要違規轉運的目的那當然我們這裡也請所有廠商也要知道千萬不要以身試法不要以身試法那麼也如果有這種情況也歡迎來檢舉\n376684\t393117\t那個部長這是政府事後處罰的做法財政部處罰的對象有哪些會不會因為川普關稅政策擴大處罰對象的範圍會不會啊對於有關他違規這個標示不實或申報不實的部分我們會依照貿易法移給國貿署來做懲罰\n402930\t414922\t那最高可以拔到300而且可以或者是禁止輸出入營業那另外在自由貿易港區我們是依照自由貿易港區的條例來做移情處罰那對於相關罰則的部分我們希望能夠重罰讓這個避免以身試法部長美國海關檢視產地啊那這個\n423171\t430801\t不僅大部分採個案來認定而且判定的原則更為多樣複雜國內產業重難是取得國內\n436039\t457200\tMIT的認證也可能受到挑戰那針對美國海關原產地認定個案的做法配合這次整個川普關稅政策的實施請問部長財政部有統計過有哪些外銷美國的國內產業可能成為重點觀察的指標\n458749\t468915\t我想我們每一樣產品都每一樣出口貨物都要做嚴格的審查那對於原產地證明怎麼樣的合法以及標準國貿署這個部分剛剛我們那個國貿經濟部的次長也有詳細的一個說明這個部分會持續的精進\n476210\t499980\t兩個部長 針對大陸產品低價傾銷 習產地的策略川普似乎把戰線拉到美國境外那我請問部長 你認為這個有效可行嗎對於習產地本身就是違法的一個行為這個部分我們當然是要嚴格的查查跟執行如果有違反的話就要懲罰嘛\n500814\t528788\t部長因為卓榮泰卓院長說美國非常在意稀產地的問題未來中國到美國稅率都非常的高那中國產品會向世界各地來流竄最有可能跑到台灣來經過小三通就進來那部長政府竟然意見大陸產品將無路可銷\n529969\t539773\t的大量這個低價的來傾銷到台灣來甚至於以加工的方式來吸產地那我請問部長大陸台商會不會成為大陸產品低價傾銷台灣的破口會不會\n545880\t563701\t我想對於是不是低價請銷的部分我們剛剛報告裡面它有一定的制度跟怎樣來認定那都是我們依照WTO的規定所以會調查第一個有沒有低價請銷這個低價就是說它出口到我們這邊來的價格比它在國內正常銷售價格來的低甚至有影響到\n565001\t593450\t國內產業的部分都會構成所謂的一個傾銷我們依照會刻意反傾銷稅新南向國家的這些台商會不會也成為大陸的產品轉運加工低價傾銷的破口會不會所有的破口我們都必須要防堵面對可能產生的破口你認為有沒有辦法可以阻絕在境外有沒有辦法\n594935\t614607\t當然這個部分涉及到這個進口那進口以後他是不是往哪裡去這個部分我們也是要查查的是部長川普關稅政策新南向國家也在名單中上個禮拜財委會質詢時央行總裁曾說新南向國家萬一啊受關稅這關稅戰的影響政府也會調整相關的政策內容\n618809\t640020\t然而就本席了解由於不少廠商採自中國進口原料或半成品台灣加工製造再出口到美國的模式所以預期新南向國家發展的台商恐怕容易受到美國海關高標準的檢視那我請問部長\n641761\t668531\t現階段針對這些在新南向國家發展的台商政府能夠給予他們有哪些的幫助我想新南向在新南向國家裡面做這個製造或營運的台灣的廠商就政府來說第一個他只要正常營運不管是我們輸出銀行或者我們公股銀行對正常營運的廠商當然應該在金融上還給予支援\n669793\t689231\t那至於如果他們要回台灣來投資的話那台灣也會背後相關的條件然後協助他們回台投資或轉向到其他國家的投資最後一個 過去因為美國去中化的政策全球電子產業這個產業鏈積極的分散整個大陸生產的比重那朝東南亞等歷代發展\n695436\t716088\t那國內有許多上市櫃電子產業的公司未配合政府新南向政策新南向國家更成為熱點整個投資區域那我請問部長像川普關稅政策下的台商投資成本獲利空間會不會相對出現成品價格上漲\n717529\t741206\t那這個成本提升獲利當然減少的情況財政部的稅收會不會因此受到影響會不會如果收入減少的話當然會影響到稅收會影響到稅收那你們認為稅收的影響大致上大概依據會出現有哪些稅損這個稅損的計算還是要看最後它實際的影響程度\n745209\t749602\t我是希望說我們要事前的一個預防啦這個很重要謝謝\n","txt":"謝謝主席是不是請財政部莊部長請莊部長\n委員好部長你好部長我請教因為去年稅收3.7兆超徵5283億主要的貢獻來自證交稅中所稅還有營業稅以及營所稅其中又以證交稅全年的整個成長907億元年增率達到46%\n居首工那禮拜一財政部公布第一季的稅收5540億元比去年同期減少了36億元\n那其中光是證交稅單月10增219億元219億元年減就是72億元成也是證交稅敗也是證交稅那如果以川普關稅的整個觀點分析請問部長你認為第二季過後甚至於今年全年的證交稅有機會維持去年的水準嗎\n跟委員報告確實如委員所說的我們今年到3月為止的\n持徵數是比去年少了36億這次裡面政交稅就少了52億那也就跟委員說其實因為股票市場和這個國際的政經情勢有相當高的聯動而且跟美國的股市更有相當聯動所以它的成交量其實也有相當幅度的一個變化所以說你認為有大有大到五六千億小有小到只有兩千多億所以這個部分因為有很多不確定的因素在裡面所以會影響到\n股市的一個動能那這個部分我們會持續的觀察那依林判斷今年會不會難逃這個衰退的命運依目前這樣看當然因為相關的關稅政策的不確定會影響到國際貿易的成長的動能\n那這個部分大家也都各個國家也都非常的關注我想這個部分但是一到三月份其實我們的出口出口其實是成長的是比去年成長那當然有含在因為關稅的因素而大家都在拉貨所以我們出口是做成長的那另外也要跟委員報告就是說因為有關美國這個關稅的衝擊所以我們在五月份的所得稅申報的部分期間也把它延長\n到6月底同時對有受到衝擊的不管是個人也好營利事業也好可以申請延期或者是分三年繳納那這個部分跟稅收都會有相關的一些連動的影響部長3月下旬央行公布整個經濟預測下修今年的整個經濟成長率達到就是只有到3.05%啦最近\n大摩外資券商還預測川普的關稅政策會讓以出口為導向的我們整個台灣的經濟今年的GDP成長整個預估下修到2.2%那我請問部長你認為這個可能性是最壞的狀況嗎\n我想對於這個關稅的影響行政院還有我們的經貿工作的談判小組都在努力希望能夠在爭取國家最大利益以及維護我們廠商產業的國際競爭力都在做努力那我也希望這個能夠爭取到最好以後對我們的產業以及衝擊市場的大家最小的打拚影響這個大家都知道了那個部長\n為因應大陸產品低價傾銷及透過台灣席產地財政部採事前預防事中嚴查以及事後這個研劃整個三道的黃線那我請問部長目前哪些大陸產品是事前預防的重點項目因您看\n目前來說對於大陸在對美國他有課徵反傾銷稅的以及屬於301條款裡面他課徵高關稅的部分是我們列為最高風險的部分那未來由於這個美國對於中國大陸課徵145%的高關稅\n那個差距這麼大會可能連其他貨品都會有可能會轉做違規轉運到台灣來所以這個部分我們除了在三道防線之外我們會再做一個精進的一段精進的措施讓台灣不能成為洗產地的一個地方那我請教部長換句話說現階段的是有哪些高風險的貨物篩選高風險廠商有沒有出現盲區啊有沒有\n這個部分也就是我們持續的一直在進行在這個部分您講的盲區的部分也就是我們要再進一步的來做那個部長現階段哪些種類的大陸產品財政部必須採取適中嚴查的這個方式才能夠有效防堵低價傾銷台灣甚至於透過台灣來洗產地銷售到美國目前呢\n目前來說當然高風險產品我們還是對於美國對他們課徵反傾銷稅跟301條款高關稅的部分那未來我們會擴大查查的範圍而且會強那個強度也會加強我們以各官會以官務長\n帶隊組成一個小組做專案的棋查而且密度也會加強避免形成這個他們想要違規轉運的目的那當然我們這裡也請所有廠商也要知道千萬不要以身試法不要以身試法那麼也如果有這種情況也歡迎來檢舉\n那個部長這是政府事後處罰的做法財政部處罰的對象有哪些會不會因為川普關稅政策擴大處罰對象的範圍會不會啊對於有關他違規這個標示不實或申報不實的部分我們會依照貿易法移給國貿署來做懲罰\n那最高可以拔到300而且可以或者是禁止輸出入營業那另外在自由貿易港區我們是依照自由貿易港區的條例來做移情處罰那對於相關罰則的部分我們希望能夠重罰讓這個避免以身試法部長美國海關檢視產地啊那這個\n不僅大部分採個案來認定而且判定的原則更為多樣複雜國內產業重難是取得國內\nMIT的認證也可能受到挑戰那針對美國海關原產地認定個案的做法配合這次整個川普關稅政策的實施請問部長財政部有統計過有哪些外銷美國的國內產業可能成為重點觀察的指標\n我想我們每一樣產品都每一樣出口貨物都要做嚴格的審查那對於原產地證明怎麼樣的合法以及標準國貿署這個部分剛剛我們那個國貿經濟部的次長也有詳細的一個說明這個部分會持續的精進\n兩個部長 針對大陸產品低價傾銷 習產地的策略川普似乎把戰線拉到美國境外那我請問部長 你認為這個有效可行嗎對於習產地本身就是違法的一個行為這個部分我們當然是要嚴格的查查跟執行如果有違反的話就要懲罰嘛\n部長因為卓榮泰卓院長說美國非常在意稀產地的問題未來中國到美國稅率都非常的高那中國產品會向世界各地來流竄最有可能跑到台灣來經過小三通就進來那部長政府竟然意見大陸產品將無路可銷\n的大量這個低價的來傾銷到台灣來甚至於以加工的方式來吸產地那我請問部長大陸台商會不會成為大陸產品低價傾銷台灣的破口會不會\n我想對於是不是低價請銷的部分我們剛剛報告裡面它有一定的制度跟怎樣來認定那都是我們依照WTO的規定所以會調查第一個有沒有低價請銷這個低價就是說它出口到我們這邊來的價格比它在國內正常銷售價格來的低甚至有影響到\n國內產業的部分都會構成所謂的一個傾銷我們依照會刻意反傾銷稅新南向國家的這些台商會不會也成為大陸的產品轉運加工低價傾銷的破口會不會所有的破口我們都必須要防堵面對可能產生的破口你認為有沒有辦法可以阻絕在境外有沒有辦法\n當然這個部分涉及到這個進口那進口以後他是不是往哪裡去這個部分我們也是要查查的是部長川普關稅政策新南向國家也在名單中上個禮拜財委會質詢時央行總裁曾說新南向國家萬一啊受關稅這關稅戰的影響政府也會調整相關的政策內容\n然而就本席了解由於不少廠商採自中國進口原料或半成品台灣加工製造再出口到美國的模式所以預期新南向國家發展的台商恐怕容易受到美國海關高標準的檢視那我請問部長\n現階段針對這些在新南向國家發展的台商政府能夠給予他們有哪些的幫助我想新南向在新南向國家裡面做這個製造或營運的台灣的廠商就政府來說第一個他只要正常營運不管是我們輸出銀行或者我們公股銀行對正常營運的廠商當然應該在金融上還給予支援\n那至於如果他們要回台灣來投資的話那台灣也會背後相關的條件然後協助他們回台投資或轉向到其他國家的投資最後一個 過去因為美國去中化的政策全球電子產業這個產業鏈積極的分散整個大陸生產的比重那朝東南亞等歷代發展\n那國內有許多上市櫃電子產業的公司未配合政府新南向政策新南向國家更成為熱點整個投資區域那我請問部長像川普關稅政策下的台商投資成本獲利空間會不會相對出現成品價格上漲\n那這個成本提升獲利當然減少的情況財政部的稅收會不會因此受到影響會不會如果收入減少的話當然會影響到稅收會影響到稅收那你們認為稅收的影響大致上大概依據會出現有哪些稅損這個稅損的計算還是要看最後它實際的影響程度\n我是希望說我們要事前的一個預防啦這個很重要謝謝\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:13.741 --> 00:16.523\n謝謝主席是不是請財政部莊部長請莊部長\n\n00:25.598 --> 00:47.037\n委員好部長你好部長我請教因為去年稅收3.7兆超徵5283億主要的貢獻來自證交稅中所稅還有營業稅以及營所稅其中又以證交稅全年的整個成長907億元年增率達到46%\n\n00:52.442 --> 00:57.885\n居首工那禮拜一財政部公布第一季的稅收5540億元比去年同期減少了36億元\n\n01:05.578 --> 01:32.466\n那其中光是證交稅單月10增219億元219億元年減就是72億元成也是證交稅敗也是證交稅那如果以川普關稅的整個觀點分析請問部長你認為第二季過後甚至於今年全年的證交稅有機會維持去年的水準嗎\n\n01:34.570 --> 01:38.845\n跟委員報告確實如委員所說的我們今年到3月為止的\n\n01:39.378 --> 02:06.928\n持徵數是比去年少了36億這次裡面政交稅就少了52億那也就跟委員說其實因為股票市場和這個國際的政經情勢有相當高的聯動而且跟美國的股市更有相當聯動所以它的成交量其實也有相當幅度的一個變化所以說你認為有大有大到五六千億小有小到只有兩千多億所以這個部分因為有很多不確定的因素在裡面所以會影響到\n\n02:08.288 --> 02:22.483\n股市的一個動能那這個部分我們會持續的觀察那依林判斷今年會不會難逃這個衰退的命運依目前這樣看當然因為相關的關稅政策的不確定會影響到國際貿易的成長的動能\n\n02:24.878 --> 02:51.579\n那這個部分大家也都各個國家也都非常的關注我想這個部分但是一到三月份其實我們的出口出口其實是成長的是比去年成長那當然有含在因為關稅的因素而大家都在拉貨所以我們出口是做成長的那另外也要跟委員報告就是說因為有關美國這個關稅的衝擊所以我們在五月份的所得稅申報的部分期間也把它延長\n\n02:52.680 --> 03:14.701\n到6月底同時對有受到衝擊的不管是個人也好營利事業也好可以申請延期或者是分三年繳納那這個部分跟稅收都會有相關的一些連動的影響部長3月下旬央行公布整個經濟預測下修今年的整個經濟成長率達到就是只有到3.05%啦最近\n\n03:17.383 --> 03:32.613\n大摩外資券商還預測川普的關稅政策會讓以出口為導向的我們整個台灣的經濟今年的GDP成長整個預估下修到2.2%那我請問部長你認為這個可能性是最壞的狀況嗎\n\n03:40.253 --> 04:03.238\n我想對於這個關稅的影響行政院還有我們的經貿工作的談判小組都在努力希望能夠在爭取國家最大利益以及維護我們廠商產業的國際競爭力都在做努力那我也希望這個能夠爭取到最好以後對我們的產業以及衝擊市場的大家最小的打拚影響這個大家都知道了那個部長\n\n04:04.458 --> 04:25.348\n為因應大陸產品低價傾銷及透過台灣席產地財政部採事前預防事中嚴查以及事後這個研劃整個三道的黃線那我請問部長目前哪些大陸產品是事前預防的重點項目因您看\n\n04:26.834 --> 04:39.352\n目前來說對於大陸在對美國他有課徵反傾銷稅的以及屬於301條款裡面他課徵高關稅的部分是我們列為最高風險的部分那未來由於這個美國對於中國大陸課徵145%的高關稅\n\n04:43.457 --> 05:03.684\n那個差距這麼大會可能連其他貨品都會有可能會轉做違規轉運到台灣來所以這個部分我們除了在三道防線之外我們會再做一個精進的一段精進的措施讓台灣不能成為洗產地的一個地方那我請教部長換句話說現階段的是有哪些高風險的貨物篩選高風險廠商有沒有出現盲區啊有沒有\n\n05:13.823 --> 05:40.419\n這個部分也就是我們持續的一直在進行在這個部分您講的盲區的部分也就是我們要再進一步的來做那個部長現階段哪些種類的大陸產品財政部必須採取適中嚴查的這個方式才能夠有效防堵低價傾銷台灣甚至於透過台灣來洗產地銷售到美國目前呢\n\n05:42.059 --> 05:44.062\n目前來說當然高風險產品我們還是對於美國對他們課徵反傾銷稅跟301條款高關稅的部分那未來我們會擴大查查的範圍而且會強那個強度也會加強我們以各官會以官務長\n\n05:58.295 --> 06:14.435\n帶隊組成一個小組做專案的棋查而且密度也會加強避免形成這個他們想要違規轉運的目的那當然我們這裡也請所有廠商也要知道千萬不要以身試法不要以身試法那麼也如果有這種情況也歡迎來檢舉\n\n06:16.684 --> 06:33.117\n那個部長這是政府事後處罰的做法財政部處罰的對象有哪些會不會因為川普關稅政策擴大處罰對象的範圍會不會啊對於有關他違規這個標示不實或申報不實的部分我們會依照貿易法移給國貿署來做懲罰\n\n06:42.930 --> 06:54.922\n那最高可以拔到300而且可以或者是禁止輸出入營業那另外在自由貿易港區我們是依照自由貿易港區的條例來做移情處罰那對於相關罰則的部分我們希望能夠重罰讓這個避免以身試法部長美國海關檢視產地啊那這個\n\n07:03.171 --> 07:10.801\n不僅大部分採個案來認定而且判定的原則更為多樣複雜國內產業重難是取得國內\n\n07:16.039 --> 07:37.200\nMIT的認證也可能受到挑戰那針對美國海關原產地認定個案的做法配合這次整個川普關稅政策的實施請問部長財政部有統計過有哪些外銷美國的國內產業可能成為重點觀察的指標\n\n07:38.749 --> 07:48.915\n我想我們每一樣產品都每一樣出口貨物都要做嚴格的審查那對於原產地證明怎麼樣的合法以及標準國貿署這個部分剛剛我們那個國貿經濟部的次長也有詳細的一個說明這個部分會持續的精進\n\n07:56.210 --> 08:19.980\n兩個部長針對大陸產品低價傾銷習產地的策略川普似乎把戰線拉到美國境外那我請問部長你認為這個有效可行嗎對於習產地本身就是違法的一個行為這個部分我們當然是要嚴格的查查跟執行如果有違反的話就要懲罰嘛\n\n08:20.814 --> 08:48.788\n部長因為卓榮泰卓院長說美國非常在意稀產地的問題未來中國到美國稅率都非常的高那中國產品會向世界各地來流竄最有可能跑到台灣來經過小三通就進來那部長政府竟然意見大陸產品將無路可銷\n\n08:49.969 --> 08:59.773\n的大量這個低價的來傾銷到台灣來甚至於以加工的方式來吸產地那我請問部長大陸台商會不會成為大陸產品低價傾銷台灣的破口會不會\n\n09:05.880 --> 09:23.701\n我想對於是不是低價請銷的部分我們剛剛報告裡面它有一定的制度跟怎樣來認定那都是我們依照WTO的規定所以會調查第一個有沒有低價請銷這個低價就是說它出口到我們這邊來的價格比它在國內正常銷售價格來的低甚至有影響到\n\n09:25.001 --> 09:53.450\n國內產業的部分都會構成所謂的一個傾銷我們依照會刻意反傾銷稅新南向國家的這些台商會不會也成為大陸的產品轉運加工低價傾銷的破口會不會所有的破口我們都必須要防堵面對可能產生的破口你認為有沒有辦法可以阻絕在境外有沒有辦法\n\n09:54.935 --> 10:14.607\n當然這個部分涉及到這個進口那進口以後他是不是往哪裡去這個部分我們也是要查查的是部長川普關稅政策新南向國家也在名單中上個禮拜財委會質詢時央行總裁曾說新南向國家萬一啊受關稅這關稅戰的影響政府也會調整相關的政策內容\n\n10:18.809 --> 10:40.020\n然而就本席了解由於不少廠商採自中國進口原料或半成品台灣加工製造再出口到美國的模式所以預期新南向國家發展的台商恐怕容易受到美國海關高標準的檢視那我請問部長\n\n10:41.761 --> 11:08.531\n現階段針對這些在新南向國家發展的台商政府能夠給予他們有哪些的幫助我想新南向在新南向國家裡面做這個製造或營運的台灣的廠商就政府來說第一個他只要正常營運不管是我們輸出銀行或者我們公股銀行對正常營運的廠商當然應該在金融上還給予支援\n\n11:09.793 --> 11:29.231\n那至於如果他們要回台灣來投資的話那台灣也會背後相關的條件然後協助他們回台投資或轉向到其他國家的投資最後一個過去因為美國去中化的政策全球電子產業這個產業鏈積極的分散整個大陸生產的比重那朝東南亞等歷代發展\n\n11:35.436 --> 11:56.088\n那國內有許多上市櫃電子產業的公司未配合政府新南向政策新南向國家更成為熱點整個投資區域那我請問部長像川普關稅政策下的台商投資成本獲利空間會不會相對出現成品價格上漲\n\n11:57.529 --> 12:21.206\n那這個成本提升獲利當然減少的情況財政部的稅收會不會因此受到影響會不會如果收入減少的話當然會影響到稅收會影響到稅收那你們認為稅收的影響大致上大概依據會出現有哪些稅損這個稅損的計算還是要看最後它實際的影響程度\n\n12:25.209 --> 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