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00:02:49,521\n這一點很重要我要謝謝部長這個嚴守我們的技術優勢這一點是非常的重要那除此之外台灣到你們目前的盤點還有其他的向下標的會加速去投資嗎\n\n10\n00:02:52,182 --> 00:03:15,947\n哪一方面在你們的產業你盤點的這些產業那對於在美國的投資是不是還有比較具體的哪一類型的有可能會加大來投資這一部分我們沒有辦法去推論跟委員報告也就是說美國大概在世界上面領先的部分大概都是在軟體科技業\n\n11\n00:03:18,188 --> 00:03:38,476\n那或者是在這種高科技的設計業那這一部分其實跟我們的製造要移動其實是要相當大的這個協商所以目前在你們的評估判斷當中除了半導體電子業大概是這個方向是不是\n\n12\n00:03:39,588 --> 00:03:55,333\n我們目前來講這一部分就是看美國他們現在的政府的立場他需要達到什麼樣的一個目的是不是全部都到美國去生產我們也不認為是這個樣子因為這裡面\n\n13\n00:03:57,934 --> 00:04:13,042\n就這一個不認為是這個樣子所以因為訊息萬變所以這段時間我相信經濟部是最辛苦的我們必須要嚴正以待因為產業界真的很緊張所以接下來本席要請教的也就是說從紓困\n\n14\n00:04:14,463 --> 00:04:31,605\n一開始在關稅議題顯現出來的時候本席就強調對外的談判對內的紓困這是非常非常重要我要謝謝部長在上一次我們委員會的時候您正式回答說絕對不能語中收散而且要寬\n\n15\n00:04:32,986 --> 00:04:52,476\n重寬重塑那所以呢我們看到呢這個紓困的部分呢我要謝謝我們的謝昭偉在禮拜一的時候經濟委員會我們也到了台中因為台中是非常重要的這個工具機手工具機擴建零組件木工機自行車業這一些的產業航太產業我相信在中部地區我們塑造了數兆以上的一個產值所以\n\n16\n00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:03,122\n也換句話說中部的產業溫等於台灣的經濟動脈也會更加的有利那顧產業就是顧名聲嘛因為這個是非常的一連貫的連結所以本期要具體建立也就是在紓困的這個部分我們應當要設立一個單一窗口\n\n17\n00:05:23,357 --> 00:05:43,131\n因為未來這個紓困包括了產業界不管是海關不管是財政部不管是我們經濟部自己的方向跟政策一個政府就是一個單一窗口因為廠商界現在最危急的最害怕的是什麼未知未知比如說我們現在的海運\n\n18\n00:05:44,312 --> 00:06:03,062\n他們說競速拉貨但是這個海運漲得不得了而且排船不一定排得到在這樣的情況之下政府應該要有責任出面來協助所以我具體首先建議也就是說在這一段時間大家努力辛苦所做出的這些政策跟方針\n\n19\n00:06:04,463 --> 00:06:32,020\n跟方法我们应该要有单一窗口来协助我们所有的产业请教是啊报告委员这个我们会朝你这样的一个建议啊是来来来协商感谢感谢跨很多的单位对对对单一窗口会来协商那如果是中小为企业的话因为我们中小企业署啊他本身就是有一个中小企业保证是这是另外一个部分我们有一个经济部的马上办对对对\n\n20\n00:06:32,580 --> 00:06:51,670\n但是部長本席清楚你馬上辦的這個部分它只是一部分但是未來我們整個談判的過程當中廠商所需要協助我也感謝部長您說一定要跨部會的來成立一個位階提升來成立一個單一窗口這個訊息出去讓我們的產業界它會比較安心會比較安心這個我們會來跟其他的單位來做一個溝通來整合\n\n21\n00:06:59,814 --> 00:07:17,174\n就像您所指教的這個馬上辦服務中心我們會擴大它的這個功能對做一個單一窗口橫向的組織也就是應變小組能夠快速解決它的問題是非常感謝但是我們看到大家有一個心聲也就是傳統產業跟中小企業占我們的人口\n\n22\n00:07:18,015 --> 00:07:45,734\n劳动人口的九成那我们在目前为止大家都认为政府的资源多重在这个半导体电子业传统产业跟中小企业似乎没有受到重视大家一致的心声所以我也看到在我们880亿当中首先要请教因为延后来宣布我们也知道在整个关税的谈判当中还有很多的挑战\n\n23\n00:07:46,874 --> 00:08:03,826\n那請教我認為880億根本不足為道那所以要請教喔部長880億昨天我們在總諮詢的時候院長也說會因應方向所以我具體建議具體的請問我們的880億是否會加碼\n\n24\n00:08:07,928 --> 00:08:25,767\n如果有必要的话会加码好这个跟行政院院长昨天答复本席的是一样有必要就是要加码那在我们整个中小企业的部分也务必要加码对不对我要谢谢部长你这么说所以我们昨天讨论的\n\n25\n00:08:26,508 --> 00:08:33,732\n中小企業的這個微型的部分我們現在在880億裡頭我們只有提50億這是不夠的這個數額必須再去盤點再去增加因為這個就是最基礎的你穩定了整個中小企業等於穩定了就業等於穩定了我們的家庭接住了我們的家庭這是非常的重要這個整體我們可以運用的這個中小微企業的錢是410億\n\n26\n00:08:57,206 --> 00:09:11,218\n對411億當中昨天你也回答了你還有一個200億的200億你包括的是補助研發轉型但是部長我要跟你討論的在我們中部地區裡頭我們這些工具機手工具機零組件我們的\n\n27\n00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:39,011\n扣件等等我们的自行车我们的航太大家非常的紧张非常的紧张所以我相信这个数额绝对是不够的除了方法精进我们更要将数额来增加就成为刚才所说的四情况来加对因为我们知道这个产业这个数量比较多所以我们会\n\n28\n00:09:40,596 --> 00:09:46,062\n趕快去解決這些問題就直接在您剛才講的這幾個精密加工的部分我們會來趕快去解決這個問題一個重點也就是說不要讓我們的中小企業傳統產業做了這麼多的苦工政府理當應該要協助輔導尤其在這個時間所以一定不可以忽視了我們的傳統產業跟中小企業\n\n29\n00:10:05,222 --> 00:10:15,276\n我們不會忽視傳統產業跟中小企業而且一定要重視這是我們國人的產業我們都一定是重視的一定是重視好加油謝謝是謝謝委員好謝謝我們現在請林黛華\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n4001\t6131\t謝謝主席 楊群發言 邀請郭部長郭部長\n14952\t35566\t委員長 部長好 那麼輝達宣布要跟台積電在美投資5000億美元您昨天也說了 台灣只有兩種公司 也就是做EMS的代工的鴻海跟偉創那台積電封裝的也會過去 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那麼輝達宣布要跟台積電在美投資5000億美元您昨天也說了 台灣只有兩種公司 也就是做EMS的代工的鴻海跟偉創那台積電封裝的也會過去 細品也可能會去直導\n當然你也強調台灣廠商要去美國都會關注那台灣的技術更要嚴守我們的技術本位留在台灣不會過去這是你昨天的回答所以請教未來台灣還有哪些產業會加大在美國的投資\n因為您一直說會希望是以產業鏈國家隊的方式來赴美所以請教規劃跟措施到目前為止的進展是如何請說明報告委員我們現在目前因為就像您剛才所指導的這個指教的這個每天的這個變化非常的大對\n那這個NVIDIA的5000億美元的投資那跟這個Apple 5000億美元的投資跟他們其他的美國很多的這個廠商七大科技廠商的這種高金額的投資啊\n我們都在關注那台灣非常在目前的狀況因為我們台灣跟美國的科技業其實是高度的互整互相的配合的互相的關聯的\n所以在这个方面台湾的厂商如何在透过这个市场的需求而造成全球的移动这个是必然的一个趋势在这个必然的趋势当中也就是我们是否会预期更多的台湾的半导体产业链会到美国那我们要如何严守我们的技术优势呢\n我們的技術優先我們會在這個因為我們所有的對外投資經濟部能夠把關的地方就在我們的這個投審會那我們投審會有各個部會的這個同仁參加我們會對於國家安全對技術保障在這方面\n這一點很重要我要謝謝部長這個嚴守我們的技術優勢這一點是非常的重要那除此之外台灣到你們目前的盤點還有其他的向下標的會加速去投資嗎\n哪一方面在你們的產業你盤點的這些產業那對於在美國的投資是不是還有比較具體的哪一類型的有可能會加大來投資這一部分我們沒有辦法去推論跟委員報告也就是說美國大概在世界上面領先的部分大概都是在軟體科技業\n那或者是在這種高科技的設計業那這一部分其實跟我們的製造要移動其實是要相當大的這個協商所以目前在你們的評估判斷當中除了半導體電子業大概是這個方向是不是\n我們目前來講這一部分就是看美國他們現在的政府的立場他需要達到什麼樣的一個目的是不是全部都到美國去生產我們也不認為是這個樣子因為這裡面\n就這一個不認為是這個樣子所以因為訊息萬變所以這段時間我相信經濟部是最辛苦的我們必須要嚴正以待因為產業界真的很緊張所以接下來本席要請教的也就是說從紓困\n一開始在關稅議題顯現出來的時候本席就強調對外的談判對內的紓困這是非常非常重要我要謝謝部長在上一次我們委員會的時候您正式回答說絕對不能語中收散而且要寬\n重寬重塑那所以呢我們看到呢這個紓困的部分呢我要謝謝我們的謝昭偉在禮拜一的時候經濟委員會我們也到了台中因為台中是非常重要的這個工具機手工具機擴建零組件木工機自行車業這一些的產業航太產業我相信在中部地區我們塑造了數兆以上的一個產值所以\n也換句話說中部的產業溫等於台灣的經濟動脈也會更加的有利那顧產業就是顧名聲嘛因為這個是非常的一連貫的連結所以本期要具體建立也就是在紓困的這個部分我們應當要設立一個單一窗口\n因為未來這個紓困包括了產業界不管是海關不管是財政部不管是我們經濟部自己的方向跟政策一個政府就是一個單一窗口因為廠商界現在最危急的最害怕的是什麼未知未知比如說我們現在的海運\n他們說競速拉貨但是這個海運漲得不得了而且排船不一定排得到在這樣的情況之下政府應該要有責任出面來協助所以我具體首先建議也就是說在這一段時間大家努力辛苦所做出的這些政策跟方針\n跟方法我们应该要有单一窗口来协助我们所有的产业请教是啊报告委员这个我们会朝你这样的一个建议啊是来来来协商感谢感谢跨很多的单位对对对单一窗口会来协商那如果是中小为企业的话因为我们中小企业署啊他本身就是有一个中小企业保证是这是另外一个部分我们有一个经济部的马上办对对对\n但是部長本席清楚你馬上辦的這個部分它只是一部分但是未來我們整個談判的過程當中廠商所需要協助我也感謝部長您說一定要跨部會的來成立一個位階提升來成立一個單一窗口這個訊息出去讓我們的產業界它會比較安心會比較安心這個我們會來跟其他的單位來做一個溝通來整合\n就像您所指教的這個馬上辦服務中心我們會擴大它的這個功能對 做一個單一窗口橫向的組織也就是應變小組能夠快速解決它的問題是 非常感謝但是我們看到大家有一個心聲也就是傳統產業跟中小企業占我們的人口\n劳动人口的九成那我们在目前为止大家都认为政府的资源多重在这个半导体电子业传统产业跟中小企业似乎没有受到重视大家一致的心声所以我也看到在我们880亿当中首先要请教因为延后来宣布我们也知道在整个关税的谈判当中还有很多的挑战\n那請教我認為880億根本不足為道那所以要請教喔部長880億昨天我們在總諮詢的時候院長也說會因應方向所以我具體建議具體的請問我們的880億是否會加碼\n如果有必要的话会加码好这个跟行政院院长昨天答复本席的是一样有必要就是要加码那在我们整个中小企业的部分也务必要加码对不对我要谢谢部长你这么说所以我们昨天讨论的\n中小企業的這個微型的部分我們現在在880億裡頭我們只有提50億這是不夠的這個數額必須再去盤點再去增加因為這個就是最基礎的你穩定了整個中小企業等於穩定了就業等於穩定了我們的家庭接住了我們的家庭這是非常的重要這個整體我們可以運用的這個中小微企業的錢是410億\n對 411億當中昨天你也回答了你還有一個200億的200億你包括的是補助研發轉型但是部長我要跟你討論的在我們中部地區裡頭我們這些工具機手工具機零組件我們的\n扣件等等我们的自行车我们的航太大家非常的紧张非常的紧张所以我相信这个数额绝对是不够的除了方法精进我们更要将数额来增加就成为刚才所说的四情况来加对因为我们知道这个产业这个数量比较多所以我们会\n趕快去解決這些問題就直接在您剛才講的這幾個精密加工的部分我們會來趕快去解決這個問題一個重點也就是說不要讓我們的中小企業傳統產業做了這麼多的苦工政府理當應該要協助輔導尤其在這個時間所以一定不可以忽視了我們的傳統產業跟中小企業\n我們不會忽視傳統產業跟中小企業而且一定要重視這是我們國人的產業我們都一定是重視的一定是重視好加油謝謝是謝謝委員好謝謝我們現在請林黛華\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:04.001 --> 00:06.131\n謝謝主席楊群發言邀請郭部長郭部長\n\n00:14.952 --> 00:35.566\n委員長部長好那麼輝達宣布要跟台積電在美投資5000億美元您昨天也說了台灣只有兩種公司也就是做EMS的代工的鴻海跟偉創那台積電封裝的也會過去細品也可能會去直導\n\n00:36.807 --> 00:56.376\n當然你也強調台灣廠商要去美國都會關注那台灣的技術更要嚴守我們的技術本位留在台灣不會過去這是你昨天的回答所以請教未來台灣還有哪些產業會加大在美國的投資\n\n00:57.216 --> 01:16.193\n因為您一直說會希望是以產業鏈國家隊的方式來赴美所以請教規劃跟措施到目前為止的進展是如何請說明報告委員我們現在目前因為就像您剛才所指導的這個指教的這個每天的這個變化非常的大對\n\n01:17.174 --> 01:33.785\n那這個NVIDIA的5000億美元的投資那跟這個Apple5000億美元的投資跟他們其他的美國很多的這個廠商七大科技廠商的這種高金額的投資啊\n\n01:35.137 --> 01:48.996\n我們都在關注那台灣非常在目前的狀況因為我們台灣跟美國的科技業其實是高度的互整互相的配合的互相的關聯的\n\n01:50.177 --> 02:11.722\n所以在这个方面台湾的厂商如何在透过这个市场的需求而造成全球的移动这个是必然的一个趋势在这个必然的趋势当中也就是我们是否会预期更多的台湾的半导体产业链会到美国那我们要如何严守我们的技术优势呢\n\n02:12.122 --> 02:30.604\n我們的技術優先我們會在這個因為我們所有的對外投資經濟部能夠把關的地方就在我們的這個投審會那我們投審會有各個部會的這個同仁參加我們會對於國家安全對技術保障在這方面\n\n02:30.984 --> 02:49.521\n這一點很重要我要謝謝部長這個嚴守我們的技術優勢這一點是非常的重要那除此之外台灣到你們目前的盤點還有其他的向下標的會加速去投資嗎\n\n02:52.182 --> 03:15.947\n哪一方面在你們的產業你盤點的這些產業那對於在美國的投資是不是還有比較具體的哪一類型的有可能會加大來投資這一部分我們沒有辦法去推論跟委員報告也就是說美國大概在世界上面領先的部分大概都是在軟體科技業\n\n03:18.188 --> 03:38.476\n那或者是在這種高科技的設計業那這一部分其實跟我們的製造要移動其實是要相當大的這個協商所以目前在你們的評估判斷當中除了半導體電子業大概是這個方向是不是\n\n03:39.588 --> 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