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00:03:41,067\n有沒有召集他們來了解真正的問題有沒有報告委員第一波影響會比較大大概是海空運啦那海空運的部分我們隨時跟業者保持密切的聯繫並且針對他們的定位率也好或者是定倉率也好我們隨時都在掌握那另外一方面針對這個\n\n10\n00:03:42,729 --> 00:03:58,227\n業者例如說是工業的業者他們出口或許有需要訂倉那有沒有這個急需的這個調查的部分我們也隨時在做所以我們也有這個航港局也有做這個調查表到目前為止我們航港局並沒有收到業者的這個需求\n\n11\n00:03:59,128 --> 00:04:18,823\n所以這個部分海空運的部分我們密切在觀察也密切在關注如果隨時有變化需要請我們的國籍的航空公司也好或者是船運公司該怎麼配合我們都會來配合好那這個部分我們隨時在掌握好部長我還是要建議啦因為交通運輸業確確實實也在你主管屬下啦\n\n12\n00:04:19,463 --> 00:04:36,373\n所以我在認為各行各業一定會有衝擊但是在交通部分你特別還是要去關心一下包括航空公司包括海運包括等等那另外一個我不曉得因為財政部的次長你們在整個報關業務如何去簡化\n\n13\n00:04:39,835 --> 00:05:06,570\n也就是通關的業務部分我不曉得部長有沒有跟財政部啊這裡做一個便民的溝通這很重要耶這很重要目前其實通關狀況是沒有篩報的狀況那其實如果在通關線上有發生篩報的情形比如說轉運貨物或進出口貨物量激增的話其實我們第一線同仁都會激動官務長都會激動調派人員來處理喔\n\n14\n00:05:09,432 --> 00:05:23,444\n那這個部分我們跟交通部在通商口岸的部分都會維持密切的合作來保障通關的順暢所以我說實在的啦越艱難的時代越要便民所以我問題要問這個議題就很簡單雖然這個我們政府做得到的我們說實在我們就盡量要去方便\n\n15\n00:05:33,613 --> 00:05:40,208\n最後啊我也知道那個那個顏慧欣顏副代表我要請教你一個問題我們承認\n\n16\n00:05:43,451 --> 00:06:06,988\n現在的情況來看大國是非常任性的但是小國啊也是任命所以你們現在在對岸的兩個談判的時候說實在的有時候我要建議啊談判當然有機密跟他的手法可是我看到我們現在在整個談判小組金脈談判小組當中欸你們要為以籌謀欸第一個\n\n17\n00:06:12,732 --> 00:06:29,898\n產生什麼事第二個產生什麼要有ABC的替代方案可是我看我們只有一招欸零關稅談起當然不是說不對啦但是零關稅談起在這裡我們嚴務代表我特別要請教一下\n\n18\n00:06:30,948 --> 00:06:58,675\n我們的農業我們的漁業我們的農民零關稅會很慘的那這個你們一定知道今天當然不是在跟這個農業有關可是最起碼這也是談判籌碼之一啊不是說一個零關稅有一個議題跟美國來談我告訴你啦美國你是要前進兩步退一步\n\n19\n00:06:59,295 --> 00:07:17,131\n可是美國啊是只有前進不會後退但是談判技巧的過程當中你們零關稅的情況之下有沒有考慮到農民尤其是稻穀崩盤的這些危機來言代表\n\n20\n00:07:18,761 --> 00:07:31,358\n謝謝委員我想委員也非常清楚跟美國談判絕對是一個壓力不小的一個對象所以我講大國是任性嘛那小國是任命嘛\n\n21\n00:07:32,372 --> 00:07:53,986\n所以這些東西我們也知道你們的難處可是我們該爭取的還是要爭取啊不是嗎當然絕對是我們基本上就像我們剛剛開始就有預先模擬我們會模擬說美國可能會課的關稅是10到20%或者是20到30或30%我們實際上有預估非常多的方案那我想就像我們的準備工作一樣我們談判也是這樣子來來來你對農產品尤其我們台灣的農民\n\n22\n00:08:01,055 --> 00:08:18,369\n請問一下你們有什麼補救跟因應之道跟有可能花生這些我覺得大米一進來稻米一進來我們的稻米一定崩盤啦我們如何我看到我們881的這個情況補助當中在這個部分農民是很少的\n\n23\n00:08:24,033 --> 00:08:46,499\n你有沒有考慮到這個應該要如何去爭取到農民最最高的一個最小的損失最高的這個機會好謝謝那個委員我想對我們農民來說我們一定是尊重我們的農業主管機關對於跟我們農產的這相關的評論哎呀農業部沒有用啦\n\n24\n00:08:48,007 --> 00:09:06,089\n是沒有機會來罵他啦這真的不是站在農民他是在當官嘛農業部本來就是這樣嘛但是你們現在在談判結果會影響他們的執政也是影響他們的決策所以我要聽聽你在這個部分你有什麼看法\n\n25\n00:09:07,608 --> 00:09:35,384\n我想我們所理解到的如果農產品進一步的開放的話可能會包括或許因為如果科珍對等關稅的話有可能美國對於農產的這個需求或許它整體性的需求會降低因為我們要看現在台灣出口到美國去的可能是像蝴蝶蘭這一類的產品它未必是一個民生必須現在比較嚴重的是稻米的部分是一定崩盤\n\n26\n00:09:36,565 --> 00:10:04,255\n一定崩盤所以當然啦因為農業是非常管的那我也希望我們原代表這裡把這個意見帶回去不要只有談企業有關這當然很重要但是農民零關稅這是我們台灣利農以來我們非常重要也是非常衝擊的一個部分請\n\n27\n00:10:05,695 --> 00:10:28,942\n你們在談判小組要納入這些危機的處理跟農民的利益這個要特別去考慮好不好好一定納入這個要拜託好不好那最後我還是要拜託包括財政部包括我們部長這個部分的各方面的交通有關的這些可能要納入這些提供資訊給他們談判小組好不好好謝謝\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n4259\t21064\t好 請主席 請陳部長請陳部長還有財政部我們次長請財政部次長還有我們行政院辦公室的嚴慧欣副代表請嚴副代表長官好\n30916\t56678\t好 部長剛才本席在主持會議的時候當然因為我常主張小問題看出以後就沒有大問題所以我特別稱讚你們這個報告書裡面基本上照抄機率蠻低的所以值得肯定當然我們就希望有關單位\n57839\t83929\t照抄的比例要低一點項目可以但是內容不可以因為每人做的工作完全不一樣所以這點要跟你肯定一下那另外一個啦我們說實在除了我們交通業務因為我們有常有機會在交通委員會我們做充分溝通對於整個業務部分那當然還是要提醒一下該解凍的\n85389\t103567\t盡快趕快送來這是我的呼籲沒有一個召委一直呼籲你趕快來解凍的啦但是你們有什麼難處是另外一回事但是我必須要去強調解凍非常重要因為我們交通委員會在審查預算的時候\n104648\t117303\t基本上對交通部所有的建設包括觀光署包括公路等等這些建設我們很少刪的所以這個部分你不要把它扯到業務會跟特資會的問題扯到這裡來台灣的建設絕對不能分黨派\n124071\t143872\t所以這個我要特別提醒我們這個部長這個部分可能要儘快啦台灣的建設也不要等啦不管國際的情勢如何艱難我想台灣還是要往前走這是我蠻提醒的那現在我就要來談第一個部分這個\n147333\t172754\t高關稅到底我們交通部雖然不是主管機關但是最起碼的話也是會衝擊啊你說我們三大航空公司我們海運啊海輪啊這等等東西也是有關我要了解一下剛剛我們這個洪孟愷在問你們都還在規劃我相信包括觀光包括整個我們交通運輸\n173815\t201836\t就很簡單啊我們汽車進口等等這些像我們電動搭巴士等等這些一定會去衝擊那我請問部長你們現在在整個這些損傷的這些評估到底有沒有跟業者了解他們到底現在需求以及未來未以籌謀的等等面對高關稅這個部分部長\n203777\t221067\t有沒有召集他們來了解真正的問題有沒有報告委員第一波影響會比較大大概是海空運啦那海空運的部分我們隨時跟業者保持密切的聯繫並且針對他們的定位率也好或者是定倉率也好我們隨時都在掌握那另外一方面針對這個\n222729\t238227\t業者例如說是工業的業者他們出口或許有需要訂倉那有沒有這個急需的這個調查的部分我們也隨時在做所以我們也有這個航港局也有做這個調查表到目前為止我們航港局並沒有收到業者的這個需求\n239128\t258823\t所以這個部分海空運的部分我們密切在觀察也密切在關注如果隨時有變化需要請我們的國籍的航空公司也好或者是船運公司該怎麼配合我們都會來配合好那這個部分我們隨時在掌握好部長我還是要建議啦因為交通運輸業確確實實也在你主管屬下啦\n259463\t276373\t所以我在認為各行各業一定會有衝擊但是在交通部分你特別還是要去關心一下包括航空公司包括海運包括等等那另外一個我不曉得因為財政部的次長你們在整個報關業務如何去簡化\n279835\t306570\t也就是通關的業務部分我不曉得部長有沒有跟財政部啊這裡做一個便民的溝通這很重要耶這很重要目前其實通關狀況是沒有篩報的狀況那其實如果在通關線上有發生篩報的情形比如說轉運貨物或進出口貨物量激增的話其實我們第一線同仁都會激動官務長都會激動調派人員來處理喔\n309432\t323444\t那這個部分我們跟交通部在通商口岸的部分都會維持密切的合作來保障通關的順暢所以我說實在的啦越艱難的時代越要便民所以我問題要問這個議題就很簡單雖然這個我們政府做得到的我們說實在我們就盡量要去方便\n333613\t340208\t最後啊 我也知道那個那個 顏慧欣 顏副代表我要請教你一個問題我們承認\n343451\t366988\t現在的情況來看大國是非常任性的但是小國啊也是任命所以你們現在在對岸的兩個談判的時候說實在的有時候我要建議啊談判當然有機密跟他的手法可是我看到我們現在在整個談判小組金脈談判小組當中欸你們要為以籌謀欸第一個\n372732\t389898\t產生什麼事第二個產生什麼要有ABC的替代方案可是我看我們只有一招欸零關稅談起當然不是說不對啦但是零關稅談起在這裡我們嚴務代表我特別要請教一下\n390948\t418675\t我們的農業我們的漁業我們的農民零關稅會很慘的那這個你們一定知道今天當然不是在跟這個農業有關可是最起碼這也是談判籌碼之一啊不是說一個零關稅有一個議題跟美國來談我告訴你啦美國你是要前進兩步退一步\n419295\t437131\t可是美國啊是只有前進不會後退但是談判技巧的過程當中你們零關稅的情況之下有沒有考慮到農民尤其是稻穀崩盤的這些危機來 言代表\n438761\t451358\t謝謝委員我想委員也非常清楚跟美國談判絕對是一個壓力不小的一個對象所以我講大國是任性嘛那小國是任命嘛\n452372\t473986\t所以這些東西我們也知道你們的難處可是我們該爭取的還是要爭取啊不是嗎當然絕對是我們基本上就像我們剛剛開始就有預先模擬我們會模擬說美國可能會課的關稅是10到20%或者是20到30或30%我們實際上有預估非常多的方案那我想就像我們的準備工作一樣我們談判也是這樣子來來來你對農產品尤其我們台灣的農民\n481055\t498369\t請問一下你們有什麼補救跟因應之道跟有可能花生這些 我覺得大米一進來 稻米一進來我們的稻米一定崩盤啦我們如何 我看到我們881的這個情況補助當中在這個部分 農民是很少的\n504033\t526499\t你有沒有考慮到這個應該要如何去爭取到農民最最高的一個最小的損失最高的這個機會好謝謝那個委員我想對我們農民來說我們一定是尊重我們的農業主管機關對於跟我們農產的這相關的評論哎呀農業部沒有用啦\n528007\t546089\t是沒有機會來罵他啦這真的不是站在農民他是在當官嘛農業部本來就是這樣嘛但是你們現在在談判結果會影響他們的執政也是影響他們的決策所以我要聽聽你在這個部分你有什麼看法\n547608\t575384\t我想我們所理解到的如果農產品進一步的開放的話可能會包括或許因為如果科珍對等關稅的話有可能美國對於農產的這個需求或許它整體性的需求會降低因為我們要看現在台灣出口到美國去的可能是像蝴蝶蘭這一類的產品它未必是一個民生必須現在比較嚴重的是稻米的部分是一定崩盤\n576565\t604255\t一定崩盤所以當然啦因為農業是非常管的那我也希望我們原代表這裡把這個意見帶回去不要只有談企業有關這當然很重要但是農民零關稅這是我們台灣利農以來我們非常重要也是非常衝擊的一個部分請\n605695\t628942\t你們在談判小組要納入這些危機的處理跟農民的利益這個要特別去考慮好不好好一定納入這個要拜託好不好那最後我還是要拜託包括財政部包括我們部長這個部分的各方面的交通有關的這些可能要納入這些提供資訊給他們談判小組好不好好謝謝\n","txt":"好 請主席 請陳部長請陳部長還有財政部我們次長請財政部次長還有我們行政院辦公室的嚴慧欣副代表請嚴副代表長官好\n好 部長剛才本席在主持會議的時候當然因為我常主張小問題看出以後就沒有大問題所以我特別稱讚你們這個報告書裡面基本上照抄機率蠻低的所以值得肯定當然我們就希望有關單位\n照抄的比例要低一點項目可以但是內容不可以因為每人做的工作完全不一樣所以這點要跟你肯定一下那另外一個啦我們說實在除了我們交通業務因為我們有常有機會在交通委員會我們做充分溝通對於整個業務部分那當然還是要提醒一下該解凍的\n盡快趕快送來這是我的呼籲沒有一個召委一直呼籲你趕快來解凍的啦但是你們有什麼難處是另外一回事但是我必須要去強調解凍非常重要因為我們交通委員會在審查預算的時候\n基本上對交通部所有的建設包括觀光署包括公路等等這些建設我們很少刪的所以這個部分你不要把它扯到業務會跟特資會的問題扯到這裡來台灣的建設絕對不能分黨派\n所以這個我要特別提醒我們這個部長這個部分可能要儘快啦台灣的建設也不要等啦不管國際的情勢如何艱難我想台灣還是要往前走這是我蠻提醒的那現在我就要來談第一個部分這個\n高關稅到底我們交通部雖然不是主管機關但是最起碼的話也是會衝擊啊你說我們三大航空公司我們海運啊海輪啊這等等東西也是有關我要了解一下剛剛我們這個洪孟愷在問你們都還在規劃我相信包括觀光包括整個我們交通運輸\n就很簡單啊我們汽車進口等等這些像我們電動搭巴士等等這些一定會去衝擊那我請問部長你們現在在整個這些損傷的這些評估到底有沒有跟業者了解他們到底現在需求以及未來未以籌謀的等等面對高關稅這個部分部長\n有沒有召集他們來了解真正的問題有沒有報告委員第一波影響會比較大大概是海空運啦那海空運的部分我們隨時跟業者保持密切的聯繫並且針對他們的定位率也好或者是定倉率也好我們隨時都在掌握那另外一方面針對這個\n業者例如說是工業的業者他們出口或許有需要訂倉那有沒有這個急需的這個調查的部分我們也隨時在做所以我們也有這個航港局也有做這個調查表到目前為止我們航港局並沒有收到業者的這個需求\n所以這個部分海空運的部分我們密切在觀察也密切在關注如果隨時有變化需要請我們的國籍的航空公司也好或者是船運公司該怎麼配合我們都會來配合好那這個部分我們隨時在掌握好部長我還是要建議啦因為交通運輸業確確實實也在你主管屬下啦\n所以我在認為各行各業一定會有衝擊但是在交通部分你特別還是要去關心一下包括航空公司包括海運包括等等那另外一個我不曉得因為財政部的次長你們在整個報關業務如何去簡化\n也就是通關的業務部分我不曉得部長有沒有跟財政部啊這裡做一個便民的溝通這很重要耶這很重要目前其實通關狀況是沒有篩報的狀況那其實如果在通關線上有發生篩報的情形比如說轉運貨物或進出口貨物量激增的話其實我們第一線同仁都會激動官務長都會激動調派人員來處理喔\n那這個部分我們跟交通部在通商口岸的部分都會維持密切的合作來保障通關的順暢所以我說實在的啦越艱難的時代越要便民所以我問題要問這個議題就很簡單雖然這個我們政府做得到的我們說實在我們就盡量要去方便\n最後啊 我也知道那個那個 顏慧欣 顏副代表我要請教你一個問題我們承認\n現在的情況來看大國是非常任性的但是小國啊也是任命所以你們現在在對岸的兩個談判的時候說實在的有時候我要建議啊談判當然有機密跟他的手法可是我看到我們現在在整個談判小組金脈談判小組當中欸你們要為以籌謀欸第一個\n產生什麼事第二個產生什麼要有ABC的替代方案可是我看我們只有一招欸零關稅談起當然不是說不對啦但是零關稅談起在這裡我們嚴務代表我特別要請教一下\n我們的農業我們的漁業我們的農民零關稅會很慘的那這個你們一定知道今天當然不是在跟這個農業有關可是最起碼這也是談判籌碼之一啊不是說一個零關稅有一個議題跟美國來談我告訴你啦美國你是要前進兩步退一步\n可是美國啊是只有前進不會後退但是談判技巧的過程當中你們零關稅的情況之下有沒有考慮到農民尤其是稻穀崩盤的這些危機來 言代表\n謝謝委員我想委員也非常清楚跟美國談判絕對是一個壓力不小的一個對象所以我講大國是任性嘛那小國是任命嘛\n所以這些東西我們也知道你們的難處可是我們該爭取的還是要爭取啊不是嗎當然絕對是我們基本上就像我們剛剛開始就有預先模擬我們會模擬說美國可能會課的關稅是10到20%或者是20到30或30%我們實際上有預估非常多的方案那我想就像我們的準備工作一樣我們談判也是這樣子來來來你對農產品尤其我們台灣的農民\n請問一下你們有什麼補救跟因應之道跟有可能花生這些 我覺得大米一進來 稻米一進來我們的稻米一定崩盤啦我們如何 我看到我們881的這個情況補助當中在這個部分 農民是很少的\n你有沒有考慮到這個應該要如何去爭取到農民最最高的一個最小的損失最高的這個機會好謝謝那個委員我想對我們農民來說我們一定是尊重我們的農業主管機關對於跟我們農產的這相關的評論哎呀農業部沒有用啦\n是沒有機會來罵他啦這真的不是站在農民他是在當官嘛農業部本來就是這樣嘛但是你們現在在談判結果會影響他們的執政也是影響他們的決策所以我要聽聽你在這個部分你有什麼看法\n我想我們所理解到的如果農產品進一步的開放的話可能會包括或許因為如果科珍對等關稅的話有可能美國對於農產的這個需求或許它整體性的需求會降低因為我們要看現在台灣出口到美國去的可能是像蝴蝶蘭這一類的產品它未必是一個民生必須現在比較嚴重的是稻米的部分是一定崩盤\n一定崩盤所以當然啦因為農業是非常管的那我也希望我們原代表這裡把這個意見帶回去不要只有談企業有關這當然很重要但是農民零關稅這是我們台灣利農以來我們非常重要也是非常衝擊的一個部分請\n你們在談判小組要納入這些危機的處理跟農民的利益這個要特別去考慮好不好好一定納入這個要拜託好不好那最後我還是要拜託包括財政部包括我們部長這個部分的各方面的交通有關的這些可能要納入這些提供資訊給他們談判小組好不好好謝謝\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:04.259 --> 00:21.064\n好請主席請陳部長請陳部長還有財政部我們次長請財政部次長還有我們行政院辦公室的嚴慧欣副代表請嚴副代表長官好\n\n00:30.916 --> 00:56.678\n好部長剛才本席在主持會議的時候當然因為我常主張小問題看出以後就沒有大問題所以我特別稱讚你們這個報告書裡面基本上照抄機率蠻低的所以值得肯定當然我們就希望有關單位\n\n00:57.839 --> 01:23.929\n照抄的比例要低一點項目可以但是內容不可以因為每人做的工作完全不一樣所以這點要跟你肯定一下那另外一個啦我們說實在除了我們交通業務因為我們有常有機會在交通委員會我們做充分溝通對於整個業務部分那當然還是要提醒一下該解凍的\n\n01:25.389 --> 01:43.567\n盡快趕快送來這是我的呼籲沒有一個召委一直呼籲你趕快來解凍的啦但是你們有什麼難處是另外一回事但是我必須要去強調解凍非常重要因為我們交通委員會在審查預算的時候\n\n01:44.648 --> 01:57.303\n基本上對交通部所有的建設包括觀光署包括公路等等這些建設我們很少刪的所以這個部分你不要把它扯到業務會跟特資會的問題扯到這裡來台灣的建設絕對不能分黨派\n\n02:04.071 --> 02:23.872\n所以這個我要特別提醒我們這個部長這個部分可能要儘快啦台灣的建設也不要等啦不管國際的情勢如何艱難我想台灣還是要往前走這是我蠻提醒的那現在我就要來談第一個部分這個\n\n02:27.333 --> 02:52.754\n高關稅到底我們交通部雖然不是主管機關但是最起碼的話也是會衝擊啊你說我們三大航空公司我們海運啊海輪啊這等等東西也是有關我要了解一下剛剛我們這個洪孟愷在問你們都還在規劃我相信包括觀光包括整個我們交通運輸\n\n02:53.815 --> 03:21.836\n就很簡單啊我們汽車進口等等這些像我們電動搭巴士等等這些一定會去衝擊那我請問部長你們現在在整個這些損傷的這些評估到底有沒有跟業者了解他們到底現在需求以及未來未以籌謀的等等面對高關稅這個部分部長\n\n03:23.777 --> 03:41.067\n有沒有召集他們來了解真正的問題有沒有報告委員第一波影響會比較大大概是海空運啦那海空運的部分我們隨時跟業者保持密切的聯繫並且針對他們的定位率也好或者是定倉率也好我們隨時都在掌握那另外一方面針對這個\n\n03:42.729 --> 03:58.227\n業者例如說是工業的業者他們出口或許有需要訂倉那有沒有這個急需的這個調查的部分我們也隨時在做所以我們也有這個航港局也有做這個調查表到目前為止我們航港局並沒有收到業者的這個需求\n\n03:59.128 --> 04:18.823\n所以這個部分海空運的部分我們密切在觀察也密切在關注如果隨時有變化需要請我們的國籍的航空公司也好或者是船運公司該怎麼配合我們都會來配合好那這個部分我們隨時在掌握好部長我還是要建議啦因為交通運輸業確確實實也在你主管屬下啦\n\n04:19.463 --> 04:36.373\n所以我在認為各行各業一定會有衝擊但是在交通部分你特別還是要去關心一下包括航空公司包括海運包括等等那另外一個我不曉得因為財政部的次長你們在整個報關業務如何去簡化\n\n04:39.835 --> 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