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00:01:58,698\n只要他那個西籍據點他就可以去申請阿提歐哥菸絲政府主體是地方政府嘛申請的主體是地方政府但條件的話看過去我們看到這個條件的部分其實不是不是條件的部分你看你114年度推廣博工照護站的實施計畫我也很高興看到你過去是只有在客家文化重點發展區\n\n6\n00:01:59,959 --> 00:02:22,255\n所属的地方政府可以来申请嘛这就是所谓的客庄有客庄的地方政府那你这一次呢是首次名列把这个客家社区也条列到了这个申请的文字当中那客家社区显然就是跟客庄客家文化重点发展区是不太一样的了嘛对不对所以是放宽这是一个放宽\n\n7\n00:02:25,037 --> 00:02:36,362\n好所以我們現在有客庄的地方政府有客舍的地方政府都可以來申請那也就是你剛剛說的可能就是因為這個條件放寬了所以您剛剛也說了這幾年的據點不斷的增加因為客庄的話是以鄉鎮區和人口的狀況來說所以我們這麼幾年來其實客庄不太有變動就是那幾個鄉鎮可是客舍也一直在增加\n\n8\n00:02:51,528 --> 00:03:06,013\n所以連帶著我們的博工照護站因為可以申請的人多了嘛所以通過的也就多了我這個邏輯到這裡都沒有問題吧沒有問題完全充好沒有問題來那接下來就是我要請問的主委妳知道我們新北\n\n9\n00:03:06,773 --> 00:03:24,760\n新北現在有幾個客庄有幾個客舍有幾個博工造戶站嗎目前客庄有嗎我們新北有客庄嗎有有有客庄我們新北有客庄英國那邊說不是整個區是客庄它是一個社中條\n\n10\n00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:32,965\n所以你的鄉鎮的話是用什麼樣的小莊頭你的莊頭是用什麼樣的行政區村裡的部分的話來來來我們來看一下你的村裡的部分是客舍啊\n\n11\n00:03:44,690 --> 00:03:59,402\n你的客庄客家文化重點發展區的話是客家人口三分之一以上嘛鄉鎮市區所以你的意思是說包括市包括區也都可以包括市包括區它那個三分之一以上三分之一嘛它就是那個客家重點發展區我們的經驗從維也納過去前陣子我們的經驗翻譯國台國台的那一套不那一套的那個三分之一的客家\n\n12\n00:04:12,412 --> 00:04:13,113\n我替你做了一個整理我們的客庄和客舍\n\n13\n00:04:30,333 --> 00:04:57,999\n它的申請條件它的認定條件其實有兩個嘛一個是區域範圍就是您剛剛在說的地理狀態嘛客庄的話是鄉鎮市區客舍的話是用村裡但是會沒有問題嘛對不對然後下面是客家人口比例這個比例的話一個是三分之一的話這麼高額的話那它是客庄那你剛剛說客家人口三成以上或講客語的長者二分之一以上這個是你們認定客舍的條件不是這樣嗎\n\n14\n00:04:59,019 --> 00:05:01,960\n這個部分沒有問題嘛所以在這兩個條件之下我剛剛的問題是問你說新北市有客庄或客社嗎據我們的了解其實因為新北市的客家社團客家人口\n\n15\n00:05:15,846 --> 00:05:35,604\n雖然有67萬人但是他非常的散居他非常的散居所以這種散居的生活型態回歸到後面剛剛的認定方式我們一共就是新北市的三峽區的五寮里可以被符合認定客舍他不要說客庄了他連客舍\n\n16\n00:05:36,673 --> 00:05:47,998\n客舍都是非常對我們來講散居的太嚴重所以很難認定嘛所以我剛剛第一個問你說新北有客庄嗎你跟我講有我是非常疑惑我心中有問號那我們連客舍都這麼難了就這麼一個而已啊所以這是我們新北的狀況好那所以我再問你\n\n17\n00:05:55,982 --> 00:06:12,261\n主委我們新北有博工照護站嗎這樣下去看他做的會省錢但是沒有省錢是啊因為我們可以申請的就一共只有一個村裡而已啊所以這個村裡沒有去申請的話當然新北的博工照護站零啊\n\n18\n00:06:14,163 --> 00:06:32,532\n0啊這麼好的政策最多客家人口我們僅次於桃園啦我們67萬是僅次於桃園是全國第二多客家人的地方耶是最多人口的直轄市客家社人口第二多的直轄市結果我們一站博工照護站都沒有你不覺得這個狀況很奇怪嗎\n\n19\n00:06:34,833 --> 00:06:36,435\n所以我們會認為這個問題到底是宣傳不夠力讓你剛剛比如說你剛剛自己也在這邊照就是說我的申請條件我們是要客庄要客社才能來申請但是我們的現在條件有放寬\n\n20\n00:06:51,531 --> 00:07:02,375\n你講了很多可是看起來我幫你整理成表格之後沒有啊我們新北能夠符合的很少啊少之又少啊所以我們連申請條件都過不了關了更不要說成立了嘛對不對主委所以如果是這樣我認為我也要求您是不是應該再想辦法來調整去申請博工照護站的條件\n\n21\n00:07:19,641 --> 00:07:24,564\n讓散居人口市的地區也有機會加入這麼好的政策主委你的意見我們回到剛剛第一頁照顧他的目的的那個部分\n\n22\n00:07:35,330 --> 00:07:55,480\n你可以看到嘛既然它的目的是這麼好的狀況的話其實我認為正因為我們是散居的生活型態所以如果能夠多幾個博工照護站的話它就可以成為地方的新文化傳承中心啊新文化中心對我們客家來講其實才是真正重要的事情你可以規模縮小嘛然後預算\n\n23\n00:07:58,161 --> 00:08:14,707\n預算看是大家均分還是怎麼樣狀況不過我覺得你現在很可惜因為你的預算現在被刪動這麼多光是博工造戶站就被刪了700萬了我看現在今年的新增的造戶站新增的造戶站大概也都必須預算要減少了吧主委今年的博工造戶站預算有減少嗎有減少每個站點平均減少17%\n\n24\n00:08:20,789 --> 00:08:43,360\n是啊我們就已經在少經費了這樣煽動下去連博工照護站經費都沒有更不要輪到我們來申請了所以主委我明確的在這裡要求您對散居型態的如新北市應該怎麼增設博工照護站提出規劃我希望在會期結束前能夠有您的想法客委會的想法可以嗎這個會期結束前\n\n25\n00:08:46,382 --> 00:08:51,196\n好謝謝妳喔這樣我們再下次煽動預算呢解凍的時候也許我們就可以增加這個申請的機會謝謝感謝\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n882\t3523\t好謝謝主席我們請主委好請主委委員好主委早安早可以請用客語發言即可我有佩戴好通靈的這個耳機好的那主委我今天想跟您討論一個我們覺得地方上真的是很不錯廣受歡迎的政策就是我們的博工照庫站那\n27409\t32611\t主委現在博工照護站的發展情況如何?現在的數量有多少?這幾年有增加嗎?感謝委員 白宮照護站的學費體體放鬆有關從小學到大學的經驗有本能力和種植 做到有更快樂的環境\n49198\t71214\t目前今年556宗被投擲 今年517宗被投擲 每一年都省種沒錯 那我看你看這個你剛剛說到的博工照護站目標很清楚嘛就有健康促進 親迎共榮 老幼同樂那甚至他的健康 他的對象健康雅健康的客庄銀髮族\n72675\t82065\t都現在會以博工照護站做據點這我們覺得非常的樂見那我也想請問主委您剛剛說這個政策既然廣受歡迎那誰可以來申請什麼樣的資格可以來申請成為或者設立博工照護站聽到提防\n91855\t118698\t只要他那個西籍據點他就可以去申請 阿提歐哥菸絲政府主體是地方政府嘛 申請的主體是地方政府但條件的話看過去我們看到這個條件的部分其實不是不是條件的部分你看你114年度推廣博工照護站的實施計畫我也很高興看到你過去是只有在客家文化重點發展區\n119959\t142255\t所属的地方政府可以来申请嘛这就是所谓的客庄有客庄的地方政府那你这一次呢是首次名列把这个客家社区也条列到了这个申请的文字当中那客家社区显然就是跟客庄客家文化重点发展区是不太一样的了嘛对不对所以是放宽这是一个放宽\n145037\t156362\t好所以我們現在有客庄的地方政府有客舍的地方政府都可以來申請那也就是你剛剛說的可能就是因為這個條件放寬了所以您剛剛也說了這幾年的據點不斷的增加因為客庄的話是以鄉鎮區和人口的狀況來說所以我們這麼幾年來其實客庄不太有變動就是那幾個鄉鎮可是客舍也一直在增加\n171528\t186013\t所以連帶著我們的博工照護站因為可以申請的人多了嘛所以通過的也就多了我這個邏輯到這裡都沒有問題吧沒有問題 完全充好 沒有問題來 那接下來就是我要請問的主委 妳知道我們新北\n186773\t204760\t新北現在有幾個客庄 有幾個客舍 有幾個博工造戶站嗎目前 客庄 有嗎 我們新北有客庄嗎有有有客庄 我們新北有客庄英國那邊說 不是整個區是客庄 它是一個社中條\n206000\t212965\t所以你的鄉鎮的話是用什麼樣的小莊頭你的莊頭是用什麼樣的行政區村裡的部分的話來來來我們來看一下你的村裡的部分是客舍啊\n224690\t239402\t你的客庄 客家文化重點發展區的話是客家人口三分之一以上嘛 鄉鎮市區所以你的意思是說包括市 包括區也都可以包括市 包括區 它那個三分之一以上三分之一嘛它就是那個客家重點發展區我們的經驗 從維也納過去前陣子我們的經驗 翻譯國台 國台的那一套不那一套的那個三分之一的客家\n252412\t253113\t我替你做了一個整理我們的客庄和客舍\n270333\t297999\t它的申請條件它的認定條件其實有兩個嘛一個是區域範圍就是您剛剛在說的地理狀態嘛客庄的話是鄉鎮市區客舍的話是用村裡但是會沒有問題嘛對不對然後下面是客家人口比例這個比例的話一個是三分之一的話這麼高額的話那它是客庄那你剛剛說客家人口三成以上或講客語的長者二分之一以上這個是你們認定客舍的條件不是這樣嗎\n299019\t301960\t這個部分沒有問題嘛所以在這兩個條件之下我剛剛的問題是問你說新北市有客庄或客社嗎據我們的了解其實因為新北市的客家社團客家人口\n315846\t335604\t雖然有67萬人但是他非常的散居他非常的散居所以這種散居的生活型態回歸到後面剛剛的認定方式我們一共就是新北市的三峽區的五寮里可以被符合認定客舍他不要說客庄了他連客舍\n336673\t347998\t客舍都是非常對我們來講散居的太嚴重所以很難認定嘛所以我剛剛第一個問你說新北有客庄嗎你跟我講有我是非常疑惑我心中有問號那我們連客舍都這麼難了就這麼一個而已啊所以這是我們新北的狀況好那所以我再問你\n355982\t372261\t主委我們新北有博工照護站嗎這樣下去看他做的會省錢但是沒有省錢是啊因為我們可以申請的就一共只有一個村裡而已啊所以這個村裡沒有去申請的話當然新北的博工照護站零啊\n374163\t392532\t0啊這麼好的政策最多客家人口我們僅次於桃園啦我們67萬是僅次於桃園是全國第二多客家人的地方耶是最多人口的直轄市客家社人口第二多的直轄市結果我們一站博工照護站都沒有你不覺得這個狀況很奇怪嗎\n394833\t396435\t所以我們會認為這個問題到底是宣傳不夠力讓你剛剛比如說你剛剛自己也在這邊照就是說我的申請條件我們是要客庄要客社才能來申請但是我們的現在條件有放寬\n411531\t422375\t你講了很多 可是看起來我幫你整理成表格之後沒有啊 我們新北能夠符合的很少啊 少之又少啊所以我們連申請條件都過不了關了更不要說成立了嘛 對不對主委 所以如果是這樣 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申請的主體是地方政府但條件的話看過去我們看到這個條件的部分其實不是不是條件的部分你看你114年度推廣博工照護站的實施計畫我也很高興看到你過去是只有在客家文化重點發展區\n所属的地方政府可以来申请嘛这就是所谓的客庄有客庄的地方政府那你这一次呢是首次名列把这个客家社区也条列到了这个申请的文字当中那客家社区显然就是跟客庄客家文化重点发展区是不太一样的了嘛对不对所以是放宽这是一个放宽\n好所以我們現在有客庄的地方政府有客舍的地方政府都可以來申請那也就是你剛剛說的可能就是因為這個條件放寬了所以您剛剛也說了這幾年的據點不斷的增加因為客庄的話是以鄉鎮區和人口的狀況來說所以我們這麼幾年來其實客庄不太有變動就是那幾個鄉鎮可是客舍也一直在增加\n所以連帶著我們的博工照護站因為可以申請的人多了嘛所以通過的也就多了我這個邏輯到這裡都沒有問題吧沒有問題 完全充好 沒有問題來 那接下來就是我要請問的主委 妳知道我們新北\n新北現在有幾個客庄 有幾個客舍 有幾個博工造戶站嗎目前 客庄 有嗎 我們新北有客庄嗎有有有客庄 我們新北有客庄英國那邊說 不是整個區是客庄 它是一個社中條\n所以你的鄉鎮的話是用什麼樣的小莊頭你的莊頭是用什麼樣的行政區村裡的部分的話來來來我們來看一下你的村裡的部分是客舍啊\n你的客庄 客家文化重點發展區的話是客家人口三分之一以上嘛 鄉鎮市區所以你的意思是說包括市 包括區也都可以包括市 包括區 它那個三分之一以上三分之一嘛它就是那個客家重點發展區我們的經驗 從維也納過去前陣子我們的經驗 翻譯國台 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