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00:01:16,630\n照護站的部分那也可以帶他們的孫子這個孫女然後一起來讓我們的客羽可以發展那其實大家都有講到說現在這個博工照護站多設於這個客家文化重點發展區那我本席在的這個新北市是屬於這個非重點發展區那所以意思就是說新北市有67萬的人口那剛剛也提到說新北市這個過去以來比較\n\n4\n00:01:20,091 --> 00:01:41,843\n現在只有一個這個依照現在的新的規定來講只有一個三峽區五寮里可以是符合設這個客家社區所以說雖然說現在我們有把這個重點發展區以及非重點發展區多一些可以設這個國公造物站的一些的據點可是現在新北市的部分還是沒有辦法來協助那我再簡單講一下\n\n5\n00:01:43,044 --> 00:02:06,785\n那以這個重點發展區來講的話是這個三分之一以上的客家人口就可以來設立那非重點發展區現在我們是把它從鄉鎮市區把它再下放成一些村裡可以來使用可是現在的問題點是說我們還是要有超過50%甚至是比過去重點發展區更多比例的人口數才能設這個\n\n6\n00:02:08,826 --> 00:02:16,632\n這個不公照護站那這樣子造成新北市有點困難來設立是不是可以請教主委是不是可以鬆綁既有的50%的語言使用門檻\n\n7\n00:02:19,553 --> 00:02:21,955\n感謝委員的關心要補充我們肥豪、同事、友誼、尊敬、學習、共和國的幾個年頭可能在眾委員所提及多數委員所提及的要封款也要判斷他在多次提起不適中當然不適中但是他符合的條件\n\n8\n00:02:45,868 --> 00:02:59,237\n好謝謝主委因為上個會期其實我在這邊就已經有跟主委請教了那是不是這一次因為上個會期有請教這次還沒有拿到答案是不是大概有要多少時間可以提供一個資料書面資料給我們應該說三張頁\n\n9\n00:03:04,437 --> 00:03:26,759\n一個月之內嗎?三個月之內那是拜託盡快可以處理那第二個也要請教主委這個客家基本法的第三條已經明定了政府應該保護及推廣客語那依照這個文化部的語言調查報告其實現在客語的使用率有流失超過七成\n\n10\n00:03:27,319 --> 00:03:46,636\n那以及有四個縣市的一些比如說什麼邵安腔啊海陸腔已經屬於這個冰嶺就大家越來越講越少那這次的業務報告我們很期待可是卻沒有看見客家語言發展法草案的進度它是依照客家基本法第三條應該要來明定的一個部分\n\n11\n00:03:47,136 --> 00:04:13,937\n所以我們就我了解其實國民黨團有三個委員也提出相關的法案的草案那現在還沒有看到政院的版本那所以我們認為這個法制的進程有點遲緩那是不是會造成客語快速流失的這些隱憂是不是可以請教主委那現在我們的這個客語客家語言發展法最重要推廣客語的這個草案何時可以送來立法院\n\n12\n00:04:14,457 --> 00:04:23,705\n我們要重新系統行業發展法的討論因為內部有幾條幾條某種意見很清楚所以我們要有一個婚姻婚後的婚姻邀請大家提供意見我認為國家要進一步關於要進一步送入法院\n\n13\n00:04:40,859 --> 00:05:05,782\n這個會期有機會送進來立法院嗎?可能有困難主委要再加油了還有上個會期我有請教主委其實客語的發展有一個非常重要就是國家客家發展計畫他會訂定我們未來整個客語他整個的一些的計畫跟進度那上次有請教過主委在112年底\n\n14\n00:05:08,902 --> 00:05:33,535\n公佈完這個計劃以後113年度是空白當時我還認為說奇怪賴總統怎麼會130年度都空白那之前問主委現在未來預計有一個新的一期的國家課與發展計劃是114年到117年有這樣的計劃嗎有有有目前已經合理費已經整個當天好了目前尊本行政院和政院的費送國普費國普費已經在他的書籍當中\n\n15\n00:05:35,598 --> 00:05:47,263\n所以我請教主委那113年當時沒有提出計畫這個未來會是同案嗎還是說當時的原因發展是什麼為什麼過去的計畫是110年到112年113年是空白然後新的計畫是114年到117年那113年這樣子的沒有這樣的計畫未來是同案嗎\n\n16\n00:05:56,438 --> 00:06:02,105\n希望客家語言發展不能說中間斷掉一年我也是支持主委的想法應該要延續最後有請教一個重點就是說現在\n\n17\n00:06:15,521 --> 00:06:34,645\n這個客會要來發行這個客家幣預計好像在114年的7月要來刺激族群認同以及語言文化的參與我認為這是一個非常重要的事情可是我相信這個還在研議當中那我可不可以請教主委今年的客家幣預計發行的量為何那客家幣114年7月要發行客家幣的發放\n\n18\n00:06:40,546 --> 00:06:59,045\n那我們的預期的目標是什麼可以增加多少客家客於使用的比例那以及這個客家幣現在的發放就我所了解現在使用在實體的狀況就是說我實體在消費的時候可以去使用那因為本席知道說現在我們客委會很認真他有推動很多的線上課程\n\n19\n00:07:00,006 --> 00:07:11,391\n那我想說這些客家幣是不是也可以來購買這些線上課程這些虛擬的一些的一些的使用方式是不是可以請這個這個主委解釋一下感謝總委員我們學家幣一開始最要爭取的原因是高興以來學費提升點我講學的我直接在說學的升點\n\n20\n00:07:27,157 --> 00:07:30,119\n有學及認證認證的人一定多,類似學歷一定多第三,有顧慮行為、家庭要在三方面,保養高效很困難,我們要說英國的外國行為有流通適用的機會\n\n21\n00:07:46,467 --> 00:07:53,091\n本身的行業家庭、行業認證人員,做到在外國學院、外國學院做事的時間,做到用合法的對方最主要我們想要的事情,不是要運用的技巧,是要用合法的技巧,所以我非常要學習\n\n22\n00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:08,120\n所以主委謝謝所以就是說\n\n23\n00:08:35,826 --> 00:08:59,214\n這個客家幣的重點是要讓大家促進客語的發展大家用客語溝通嘛所以我在使用客家幣的時候就是盡量要鼓勵大家要講客語鼓勵大家鼓勵大家還有那個送點要一天的外公學要送點的年齡沒有那預計發行的數量為何目前四十萬年四十萬四十萬\n\n24\n00:09:04,358 --> 00:09:14,748\n40萬人那一個人大概可以取得1000塊但是因為我去登記我去量他們可能沒辦法按到才登記制\n\n25\n00:09:21,491 --> 00:09:39,263\n那最後我還是要拜託主委我要請教一個問題其實我也是幫新北市政府發聲那新北市政府最後一個問題新北市政府每年都會辦這個疫名季的部分那我想要請教請主委聽一下我的問題這個112年度這個新北市辦疫名季的整個經費是120萬\n\n26\n00:09:42,064 --> 00:10:05,875\n當時課委會補助300萬那113年的時候總經費也是120萬可是課委會只補助100萬為什麼會少了三倍那我希望說114年的時候因為我知道課委會的這個經費今年跟去年比起來還多了3億元那我是不是需要說課委不要再減少了好各位請主委回答他應該我們要去審查他的記者我們要看幾百去回答\n\n27\n00:10:08,436 --> 00:10:11,723\n好再拜託幫新北市的客家人來跟主委拜託好謝謝感謝總委員\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n169\t26446\t各位委員各位官員大家早是有請谷主委請主委總理院好謝謝谷主委安子森那我相信今天是我們這個客委會的質詢那很多相信很多委員針對博工造戶戰有諸多的問題那本期是認為博工造戶戰就我的理解是一個非常好的政策\n26966\t48261\t他主要就是讓這個我們剛剛說也特別有講的C級的照護點讓一些長輩跟這個有機會到這個一些一些我們的這些聚會的社區的一個聚會中心然後大家一起來互動照顧他們的身體那麼希望說這個客語的部分一定要能傳承那大家會講客語那我們很多的這個這個\n50602\t76630\t照護站的部分那也可以帶他們的孫子這個孫女然後一起來讓我們的客羽可以發展那其實大家都有講到說現在這個博工照護站多設於這個客家文化重點發展區那我本席在的這個新北市是屬於這個非重點發展區那所以意思就是說新北市有67萬的人口那剛剛也提到說新北市這個過去以來比較\n80091\t101843\t現在只有一個這個依照現在的新的規定來講只有一個三峽區五寮里可以是符合設這個客家社區所以說雖然說現在我們有把這個重點發展區以及非重點發展區多一些可以設這個國公造物站的一些的據點可是現在新北市的部分還是沒有辦法來協助那我再簡單講一下\n103044\t126785\t那以這個重點發展區來講的話是這個三分之一以上的客家人口就可以來設立那非重點發展區現在我們是把它從鄉鎮市區把它再下放成一些村裡可以來使用可是現在的問題點是說我們還是要有超過50%甚至是比過去重點發展區更多比例的人口數才能設這個\n128826\t136632\t這個不公照護站那這樣子造成新北市有點困難來設立是不是可以請教主委是不是可以鬆綁既有的50%的語言使用門檻\n139553\t141955\t感謝委員的關心 要補充我們肥豪、同事、友誼、尊敬、學習、共和國的幾個年頭可能在眾委員所提及多數委員所提及的要封款 也要判斷他在多次提起不適中 當然不適中 但是他符合的條件\n165868\t179237\t好 謝謝主委因為上個會期其實我在這邊就已經有跟主委請教了那是不是這一次因為上個會期有請教這次還沒有拿到答案是不是大概有要多少時間可以提供一個資料書面資料給我們應該說三張頁\n184437\t206759\t一個月之內嗎?三個月之內那是拜託盡快可以處理那第二個也要請教主委這個客家基本法的第三條已經明定了政府應該保護及推廣客語那依照這個文化部的語言調查報告其實現在客語的使用率有流失超過七成\n207319\t226636\t那以及有四個縣市的一些比如說什麼邵安腔啊海陸腔已經屬於這個冰嶺就大家越來越講越少那這次的業務報告我們很期待可是卻沒有看見客家語言發展法草案的進度它是依照客家基本法第三條應該要來明定的一個部分\n227136\t253937\t所以我們就我了解其實國民黨團有三個委員也提出相關的法案的草案那現在還沒有看到政院的版本那所以我們認為這個法制的進程有點遲緩那是不是會造成客語快速流失的這些隱憂是不是可以請教主委那現在我們的這個客語客家語言發展法最重要推廣客語的這個草案何時可以送來立法院\n254457\t263705\t我們要重新系統行業發展法的討論因為內部有幾條 幾條 某種意見很清楚所以我們要有一個婚姻 婚後的婚姻 邀請大家提供意見我認為國家要進一步 關於要進一步 送入法院\n280859\t305782\t這個會期有機會送進來立法院嗎?可能有困難主委要再加油了還有上個會期我有請教主委其實客語的發展有一個非常重要就是國家客家發展計畫他會訂定我們未來整個客語他整個的一些的計畫跟進度那上次有請教過主委在112年底\n308902\t333535\t公佈完這個計劃以後113年度是空白當時我還認為說奇怪賴總統怎麼會130年度都空白那之前問主委現在未來預計有一個新的一期的國家課與發展計劃是114年到117年有這樣的計劃嗎有有有目前已經合理費已經整個當天好了目前尊本行政院和政院的費送國普費國普費已經在他的書籍當中\n335598\t347263\t所以我請教主委那113年當時沒有提出計畫這個未來會是同案嗎還是說當時的原因發展是什麼為什麼過去的計畫是110年到112年113年是空白然後新的計畫是114年到117年那113年這樣子的沒有這樣的計畫未來是同案嗎\n356438\t362105\t希望客家語言發展不能說中間斷掉一年我也是支持主委的想法應該要延續最後有請教一個重點就是說現在\n375521\t394645\t這個客會要來發行這個客家幣預計好像在114年的7月要來刺激族群認同以及語言文化的參與我認為這是一個非常重要的事情可是我相信這個還在研議當中那我可不可以請教主委今年的客家幣預計發行的量為何那客家幣114年7月要發行客家幣的發放\n400546\t419045\t那我們的預期的目標是什麼可以增加多少客家客於使用的比例那以及這個客家幣現在的發放就我所了解現在使用在實體的狀況就是說我實體在消費的時候可以去使用那因為本席知道說現在我們客委會很認真他有推動很多的線上課程\n420006\t431391\t那我想說這些客家幣是不是也可以來購買這些線上課程這些虛擬的一些的一些的使用方式是不是可以請這個這個主委解釋一下感謝總委員我們學家幣一開始最要爭取的原因是高興以來學費提升點我講學的我直接在說學的升點\n447157\t450119\t有學及認證認證的人一定多,類似學歷一定多第三,有顧慮行為、家庭要在三方面,保養高效很困難,我們要說英國的外國行為有流通適用的機會\n466467\t473091\t本身的行業家庭、行業認證人員,做到在外國學院、外國學院做事的時間,做到用合法的對方最主要我們想要的事情,不是要運用的技巧,是要用合法的技巧,所以我非常要學習\n487360\t488120\t所以主委謝謝 所以就是說\n515826\t539214\t這個客家幣的重點是要讓大家促進客語的發展大家用客語溝通嘛所以我在使用客家幣的時候就是盡量要鼓勵大家要講客語鼓勵大家鼓勵大家還有那個送點要一天的外公學要送點的年齡沒有那預計發行的數量為何目前四十萬年四十萬 四十萬\n544358\t554748\t40萬人那一個人大概可以取得1000塊但是因為我去登記我去量他們可能沒辦法按到才登記制\n561491\t579263\t那最後我還是要拜託主委 我要請教一個問題其實我也是幫新北市政府發聲那新北市政府 最後一個問題新北市政府每年都會辦這個疫名季的部分那我想要請教 請主委聽一下我的問題這個112年度 這個新北市辦疫名季的整個經費是120萬\n582064\t605875\t當時課委會補助300萬那113年的時候總經費也是120萬可是課委會只補助100萬為什麼會少了三倍那我希望說114年的時候因為我知道課委會的這個經費今年跟去年比起來還多了3億元那我是不是需要說課委不要再減少了好 各位請主委回答他應該我們要去審查他的記者我們要看幾百去回答\n608436\t611723\t好 再拜託幫新北市的客家人來跟主委拜託好 謝謝感謝總委員\n","txt":"各位委員各位官員大家早是有請谷主委請主委總理院好謝謝谷主委安子森那我相信今天是我們這個客委會的質詢那很多相信很多委員針對博工造戶戰有諸多的問題那本期是認為博工造戶戰就我的理解是一個非常好的政策\n他主要就是讓這個我們剛剛說也特別有講的C級的照護點讓一些長輩跟這個有機會到這個一些一些我們的這些聚會的社區的一個聚會中心然後大家一起來互動照顧他們的身體那麼希望說這個客語的部分一定要能傳承那大家會講客語那我們很多的這個這個\n照護站的部分那也可以帶他們的孫子這個孫女然後一起來讓我們的客羽可以發展那其實大家都有講到說現在這個博工照護站多設於這個客家文化重點發展區那我本席在的這個新北市是屬於這個非重點發展區那所以意思就是說新北市有67萬的人口那剛剛也提到說新北市這個過去以來比較\n現在只有一個這個依照現在的新的規定來講只有一個三峽區五寮里可以是符合設這個客家社區所以說雖然說現在我們有把這個重點發展區以及非重點發展區多一些可以設這個國公造物站的一些的據點可是現在新北市的部分還是沒有辦法來協助那我再簡單講一下\n那以這個重點發展區來講的話是這個三分之一以上的客家人口就可以來設立那非重點發展區現在我們是把它從鄉鎮市區把它再下放成一些村裡可以來使用可是現在的問題點是說我們還是要有超過50%甚至是比過去重點發展區更多比例的人口數才能設這個\n這個不公照護站那這樣子造成新北市有點困難來設立是不是可以請教主委是不是可以鬆綁既有的50%的語言使用門檻\n感謝委員的關心 要補充我們肥豪、同事、友誼、尊敬、學習、共和國的幾個年頭可能在眾委員所提及多數委員所提及的要封款 也要判斷他在多次提起不適中 當然不適中 但是他符合的條件\n好 謝謝主委因為上個會期其實我在這邊就已經有跟主委請教了那是不是這一次因為上個會期有請教這次還沒有拿到答案是不是大概有要多少時間可以提供一個資料書面資料給我們應該說三張頁\n一個月之內嗎?三個月之內那是拜託盡快可以處理那第二個也要請教主委這個客家基本法的第三條已經明定了政府應該保護及推廣客語那依照這個文化部的語言調查報告其實現在客語的使用率有流失超過七成\n那以及有四個縣市的一些比如說什麼邵安腔啊海陸腔已經屬於這個冰嶺就大家越來越講越少那這次的業務報告我們很期待可是卻沒有看見客家語言發展法草案的進度它是依照客家基本法第三條應該要來明定的一個部分\n所以我們就我了解其實國民黨團有三個委員也提出相關的法案的草案那現在還沒有看到政院的版本那所以我們認為這個法制的進程有點遲緩那是不是會造成客語快速流失的這些隱憂是不是可以請教主委那現在我們的這個客語客家語言發展法最重要推廣客語的這個草案何時可以送來立法院\n我們要重新系統行業發展法的討論因為內部有幾條 幾條 某種意見很清楚所以我們要有一個婚姻 婚後的婚姻 邀請大家提供意見我認為國家要進一步 關於要進一步 送入法院\n這個會期有機會送進來立法院嗎?可能有困難主委要再加油了還有上個會期我有請教主委其實客語的發展有一個非常重要就是國家客家發展計畫他會訂定我們未來整個客語他整個的一些的計畫跟進度那上次有請教過主委在112年底\n公佈完這個計劃以後113年度是空白當時我還認為說奇怪賴總統怎麼會130年度都空白那之前問主委現在未來預計有一個新的一期的國家課與發展計劃是114年到117年有這樣的計劃嗎有有有目前已經合理費已經整個當天好了目前尊本行政院和政院的費送國普費國普費已經在他的書籍當中\n所以我請教主委那113年當時沒有提出計畫這個未來會是同案嗎還是說當時的原因發展是什麼為什麼過去的計畫是110年到112年113年是空白然後新的計畫是114年到117年那113年這樣子的沒有這樣的計畫未來是同案嗎\n希望客家語言發展不能說中間斷掉一年我也是支持主委的想法應該要延續最後有請教一個重點就是說現在\n這個客會要來發行這個客家幣預計好像在114年的7月要來刺激族群認同以及語言文化的參與我認為這是一個非常重要的事情可是我相信這個還在研議當中那我可不可以請教主委今年的客家幣預計發行的量為何那客家幣114年7月要發行客家幣的發放\n那我們的預期的目標是什麼可以增加多少客家客於使用的比例那以及這個客家幣現在的發放就我所了解現在使用在實體的狀況就是說我實體在消費的時候可以去使用那因為本席知道說現在我們客委會很認真他有推動很多的線上課程\n那我想說這些客家幣是不是也可以來購買這些線上課程這些虛擬的一些的一些的使用方式是不是可以請這個這個主委解釋一下感謝總委員我們學家幣一開始最要爭取的原因是高興以來學費提升點我講學的我直接在說學的升點\n有學及認證認證的人一定多,類似學歷一定多第三,有顧慮行為、家庭要在三方面,保養高效很困難,我們要說英國的外國行為有流通適用的機會\n本身的行業家庭、行業認證人員,做到在外國學院、外國學院做事的時間,做到用合法的對方最主要我們想要的事情,不是要運用的技巧,是要用合法的技巧,所以我非常要學習\n所以主委謝謝 所以就是說\n這個客家幣的重點是要讓大家促進客語的發展大家用客語溝通嘛所以我在使用客家幣的時候就是盡量要鼓勵大家要講客語鼓勵大家鼓勵大家還有那個送點要一天的外公學要送點的年齡沒有那預計發行的數量為何目前四十萬年四十萬 四十萬\n40萬人那一個人大概可以取得1000塊但是因為我去登記我去量他們可能沒辦法按到才登記制\n那最後我還是要拜託主委 我要請教一個問題其實我也是幫新北市政府發聲那新北市政府 最後一個問題新北市政府每年都會辦這個疫名季的部分那我想要請教 請主委聽一下我的問題這個112年度 這個新北市辦疫名季的整個經費是120萬\n當時課委會補助300萬那113年的時候總經費也是120萬可是課委會只補助100萬為什麼會少了三倍那我希望說114年的時候因為我知道課委會的這個經費今年跟去年比起來還多了3億元那我是不是需要說課委不要再減少了好 各位請主委回答他應該我們要去審查他的記者我們要看幾百去回答\n好 再拜託幫新北市的客家人來跟主委拜託好 謝謝感謝總委員\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:00.169 --> 00:26.446\n各位委員各位官員大家早是有請谷主委請主委總理院好謝謝谷主委安子森那我相信今天是我們這個客委會的質詢那很多相信很多委員針對博工造戶戰有諸多的問題那本期是認為博工造戶戰就我的理解是一個非常好的政策\n\n00:26.966 --> 00:48.261\n他主要就是讓這個我們剛剛說也特別有講的C級的照護點讓一些長輩跟這個有機會到這個一些一些我們的這些聚會的社區的一個聚會中心然後大家一起來互動照顧他們的身體那麼希望說這個客語的部分一定要能傳承那大家會講客語那我們很多的這個這個\n\n00:50.602 --> 01:16.630\n照護站的部分那也可以帶他們的孫子這個孫女然後一起來讓我們的客羽可以發展那其實大家都有講到說現在這個博工照護站多設於這個客家文化重點發展區那我本席在的這個新北市是屬於這個非重點發展區那所以意思就是說新北市有67萬的人口那剛剛也提到說新北市這個過去以來比較\n\n01:20.091 --> 01:41.843\n現在只有一個這個依照現在的新的規定來講只有一個三峽區五寮里可以是符合設這個客家社區所以說雖然說現在我們有把這個重點發展區以及非重點發展區多一些可以設這個國公造物站的一些的據點可是現在新北市的部分還是沒有辦法來協助那我再簡單講一下\n\n01:43.044 --> 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