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00:01:30,488\n那你總預算到現在也才公告三周那你要去怎麼檢視這個預算執行期間到底有沒有改善所以現在就要送解凍報告真的是非常不合理的一件事情再加上剛剛主委說的因為立法院送出去的時候636億通刪並沒有告訴各個部會到底要各部會怎麼樣去分配自己要刪凍的金額導致現在各個部會都還不知道最後我到底還有哪些\n\n5\n00:01:31,708 --> 00:01:57,551\n項目哪一些預算可能會被刪到連部會自己都不知道因為立法院沒有給啊所以很多國民黨跟民眾黨的委員還在講說為什麼解斷報告不趕快送出來不就他們害的所以我是在這邊替你們喊冤啦真的非常委屈喔那前面我也要講一下因為其實剛剛有委員提到說你們過去到現在即便刪了1.9億可是還是比去年多了3億\n\n6\n00:01:58,832 --> 00:02:02,295\n那這個真的就不會影響你們預算執行嗎?真的不會影響你們在地方上推廣客家文化的行動嗎?民營報告一定有影響的,目前很寬度影響的用一個例子來講,剛才關心的白宮遮風站民營的站點數省重\n\n7\n00:02:20,351 --> 00:02:29,893\n明年要判理的內容增加,從今年來說增加的強硬,因為那批餐廳的事情,要經費一定要增加要增加的經費,雖然說有增加,但是削減的以後不太會因為餐廳輸多,所以目前已經輸影響了所有的餐廳,三百分之四七同步供待,要那些吃吃的影響\n\n8\n00:02:50,100 --> 00:02:59,324\n好謝謝主委的說明所以很明顯嘛剛剛也有一些委員自己提到說雖然說什麼三了1.9億但是還是增加了3億但實質上光是這個博光照護站就已經實質受影響了那我在這邊要提另外一點對於我高雄這邊的業務是比較有影響的因為裡面其實有一筆是這個客家語言升職計畫的委辦費被減列了1060萬元那這個\n\n9\n00:03:18,132 --> 00:03:34,320\n我很擔心的是是不是會直接影響到客語能力認證的施策的場次目前我們清涼的肥膚也會有影響所以我們清涼的部分不會受到影響但是沒有確定以後的財產也會有多少影響\n\n10\n00:03:43,700 --> 00:04:00,237\n好這個是我非常擔心的喔因為其實我們高雄也有四個是這個客家相關的莊就是包括美濃山林六龜甲仙嘛那其實在我們市區其實客家的人口也不少那像我們這邊古山就也有近兩成那還有三明也是兩三成\n\n11\n00:04:00,817 --> 00:04:23,786\n那我很擔心說這樣子預算刪減下去或是這個凍結到時候沒有辦法解凍的話是不是會影響到我們這個失策的場次因為其實我也知道說像我們高雄真的很努力在推廣我們高雄的市府的課委會也是很努力所以這種本土文化的保存工作啊我們也是一直有在鼓勵大家趕快來考課餘這個能力的認證那甚至還提高了課餘能力的這個認證的獎勵金那我很擔心說如果到時候真的\n\n12\n00:04:29,608 --> 00:04:43,333\n預算被迫減少然後考試的場次影響到的話那等於是前功盡棄我們這麼地方這麼努力的在做這個本土文化的保存跟推廣然後結果中央被因為特定的委員把這個預算刪掉\n\n13\n00:04:44,993 --> 00:05:02,216\n導致我們推廣的這個場次進行不下去所以我這個是非常擔心啦所以我在這邊也是希望像主委剛剛講的還是盡量到時候如果預算可以有調配的空間的話盡量不要去影響到能力認證這方面的場次跟推廣\n\n14\n00:05:02,897 --> 00:05:12,041\n雖然他可以補充,可是他的母親也受到影響,因為他的生存率是60%他在櫃台的一部分,所以每一項的宣傳都會很感受包括他的認真,比方說像認真,宣傳會跟他講要怎麼報名,要怎麼用\n\n15\n00:05:25,646 --> 00:05:31,729\n感謝感謝因為那些人人就不提供有人要諮詢所以目前來說那些受到影響的就報名的人數可能沒那麼多對這就是我擔心的對光是你們宣傳費如果不夠大家連考試的資訊都不知道\n\n16\n00:05:44,494 --> 00:05:46,736\n那可能報名的人次就受影響那整個能夠被保存的這次能夠因為考試而推廣這個課與認證的範圍又縮小了這就是我最擔心的一件事情那最後還有點時間我來補充爭取一下因為我知道說你們今年有這個課加幣的計畫\n\n17\n00:06:01,610 --> 00:06:11,034\n那我不知道說這個到底接下來會不會因為你們的可能通商那個636億被影響到或者是你們現在手上的31.9億還有凍結3.6億的目前的經費而受到影響那我希望不會\n\n18\n00:06:17,017 --> 00:06:43,485\n那如果不会的话在这样的前提之下可以顺利的推行客家币的计划因为我知道里面其实政策蛮好的就是说18到20岁的本国的青年可以来参与抽签然后抽出40万份然后通过客语认证的还有客语家庭的人就可以来领然后去相关的这个客家的店家消费嘛那我目前看到的是因为你们目标是3000家可是目前大概只招到了800间\n\n19\n00:06:44,685 --> 00:07:12,119\n相關的客家店家那我在想是不是因為你們把相關的範圍只限縮在客家文化重點發展城鄉裡面的行政區呢如果可以是不是再放寬就像我剛剛提到的我們高雄市區雖然高雄有四個六龜美濃然後山林甲仙除了這四個之外其實其他的行政區的客家人口也不少啊那像我們古山像我們三明鳳山其實都\n\n20\n00:07:13,260 --> 00:07:24,724\n也有一定的客家比例的人口,那是不是也可以把這些行政區放進去,不要只限縮在客家文化發展的城鄉區呢?感謝李燕,李燕提的提議,我們待會在幾次研究看它是否有法律擴大或是一般的,一般的提起以外共學的重點,也要我們研究\n\n21\n00:07:37,301 --> 00:08:04,047\n好謝謝主委那我的目的當然是希望說如果這一些城鄉發展區可以優先啦那重點是這一些使用客家幣的人口他們去客家的店家使用的時候可以有更多客家文化的交流嘛那包括說他的店家本身就是推廣客家文化的或者是他的店員是可以講客家話的那如果我們市區也有這樣的店家其實也可以把他們納入那目標就是三千間都可以都可以招進來嘛\n\n22\n00:08:05,229 --> 00:08:05,590\n好謝謝主委謝謝\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n230\t2476\t主席我們請顧主委好請主委好明天齁\n8686\t14427\t主委好 可不可以在這邊先請妳說明解凍報告真的是因為你們不送 才沒有辦法審理嗎?請問 今天報告不是我們不送 凡是投錢 有業益的部分 公募問題的因素就是636億 而我們持行刪除的部分 我們不在經驗的一端 故事會影響到我們的學費 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六龜甲仙嘛那其實在我們市區其實客家的人口也不少那像我們這邊古山就也有近兩成那還有三明也是兩三成\n240817\t263786\t那我很擔心說這樣子預算刪減下去或是這個凍結到時候沒有辦法解凍的話是不是會影響到我們這個失策的場次因為其實我也知道說像我們高雄真的很努力在推廣我們高雄的市府的課委會也是很努力所以這種本土文化的保存工作啊我們也是一直有在鼓勵大家趕快來考課餘這個能力的認證那甚至還提高了課餘能力的這個認證的獎勵金那我很擔心說如果到時候真的\n269608\t283333\t預算被迫減少然後考試的場次影響到的話那等於是前功盡棄我們這麼地方這麼努力的在做這個本土文化的保存跟推廣然後結果中央被因為特定的委員把這個預算刪掉\n284993\t302216\t導致我們推廣的這個場次進行不下去所以我這個是非常擔心啦所以我在這邊也是希望像主委剛剛講的還是盡量到時候如果預算可以有調配的空間的話盡量不要去影響到能力認證這方面的場次跟推廣\n302897\t312041\t雖然他可以補充,可是他的母親也受到影響,因為他的生存率是60%他在櫃台的一部分,所以每一項的宣傳都會很感受包括他的認真,比方說像認真,宣傳會跟他講要怎麼報名,要怎麼用\n325646\t331729\t感謝 感謝 因為那些人 人就不提供 有人要諮詢所以目前來說 那些受到影響的就報名的人數 可能沒那麼多對 這就是我擔心的對 光是你們宣傳費如果不夠 大家連考試的資訊都不知道\n344494\t346736\t那可能報名的人次就受影響那整個能夠被保存的這次能夠因為考試而推廣這個課與認證的範圍又縮小了這就是我最擔心的一件事情那最後還有點時間我來補充爭取一下因為我知道說你們今年有這個課加幣的計畫\n361610\t371034\t那我不知道說這個到底接下來會不會因為你們的可能通商那個636億被影響到或者是你們現在手上的31.9億還有凍結3.6億的目前的經費而受到影響那我希望不會\n377017\t403485\t那如果不会的话在这样的前提之下可以顺利的推行客家币的计划因为我知道里面其实政策蛮好的就是说18到20岁的本国的青年可以来参与抽签然后抽出40万份然后通过客语认证的还有客语家庭的人就可以来领然后去相关的这个客家的店家消费嘛那我目前看到的是因为你们目标是3000家可是目前大概只招到了800间\n404685\t432119\t相關的客家店家那我在想是不是因為你們把相關的範圍只限縮在客家文化重點發展城鄉裡面的行政區呢如果可以是不是再放寬就像我剛剛提到的我們高雄市區雖然高雄有四個六龜美濃然後山林甲仙除了這四個之外其實其他的行政區的客家人口也不少啊那像我們古山像我們三明鳳山其實都\n433260\t444724\t也有一定的客家比例的人口,那是不是也可以把這些行政區放進去,不要只限縮在客家文化發展的城鄉區呢?感謝李燕,李燕提的提議,我們待會在幾次研究看它是否有法律擴大或是一般的,一般的提起以外共學的重點,也要我們研究\n457301\t484047\t好謝謝主委那我的目的當然是希望說如果這一些城鄉發展區可以優先啦那重點是這一些使用客家幣的人口他們去客家的店家使用的時候可以有更多客家文化的交流嘛那包括說他的店家本身就是推廣客家文化的或者是他的店員是可以講客家話的那如果我們市區也有這樣的店家其實也可以把他們納入那目標就是三千間都可以都可以招進來嘛\n485229\t485590\t好 謝謝主委 謝謝\n","txt":"主席我們請顧主委好請主委好明天齁\n主委好 可不可以在這邊先請妳說明解凍報告真的是因為你們不送 才沒有辦法審理嗎?請問 今天報告不是我們不送 凡是投錢 有業益的部分 公募問題的因素就是636億 而我們持行刪除的部分 我們不在經驗的一端 故事會影響到我們的學費 多大會刪1.91 還會比1.91更高\n好謝謝主委的說明我在這邊再幫主委再補充一下其實總預算從公告到現在也不過三個禮拜的時間光是這個準備的期間現在就要馬上送解凍報告根本非常不合情合理更何況這個解凍報告的專案報告的用意就是希望說預算執行之後看是不是有改善的空間再來專案報告嘛\n那你總預算到現在也才公告三周那你要去怎麼檢視這個預算執行期間到底有沒有改善所以現在就要送解凍報告真的是非常不合理的一件事情再加上剛剛主委說的因為立法院送出去的時候636億通刪並沒有告訴各個部會到底要各部會怎麼樣去分配自己要刪凍的金額導致現在各個部會都還不知道最後我到底還有哪些\n項目哪一些預算可能會被刪到連部會自己都不知道因為立法院沒有給啊所以很多國民黨跟民眾黨的委員還在講說為什麼解斷報告不趕快送出來不就他們害的所以我是在這邊替你們喊冤啦真的非常委屈喔那前面我也要講一下因為其實剛剛有委員提到說你們過去到現在即便刪了1.9億可是還是比去年多了3億\n那這個真的就不會影響你們預算執行嗎?真的不會影響你們在地方上推廣客家文化的行動嗎?民營報告一定有影響的,目前很寬度影響的用一個例子來講,剛才關心的白宮遮風站民營的站點數省重\n明年要判理的內容增加,從今年來說增加的強硬,因為那批餐廳的事情,要經費一定要增加要增加的經費,雖然說有增加,但是削減的以後不太會因為餐廳輸多,所以目前已經輸影響了所有的餐廳,三百分之四七同步供待,要那些吃吃的影響\n好謝謝主委的說明所以很明顯嘛剛剛也有一些委員自己提到說雖然說什麼三了1.9億但是還是增加了3億但實質上光是這個博光照護站就已經實質受影響了那我在這邊要提另外一點對於我高雄這邊的業務是比較有影響的因為裡面其實有一筆是這個客家語言升職計畫的委辦費被減列了1060萬元那這個\n我很擔心的是 是不是會直接影響到 客語能力認證的 施策的場次目前我們清涼的肥膚 也會有影響所以我們清涼的部分 不會受到影響但是沒有確定以後的財產 也會有多少影響\n好 這個是我非常擔心的喔因為其實我們高雄也有四個是這個客家相關的莊就是包括美濃 山林 六龜甲仙嘛那其實在我們市區其實客家的人口也不少那像我們這邊古山就也有近兩成那還有三明也是兩三成\n那我很擔心說這樣子預算刪減下去或是這個凍結到時候沒有辦法解凍的話是不是會影響到我們這個失策的場次因為其實我也知道說像我們高雄真的很努力在推廣我們高雄的市府的課委會也是很努力所以這種本土文化的保存工作啊我們也是一直有在鼓勵大家趕快來考課餘這個能力的認證那甚至還提高了課餘能力的這個認證的獎勵金那我很擔心說如果到時候真的\n預算被迫減少然後考試的場次影響到的話那等於是前功盡棄我們這麼地方這麼努力的在做這個本土文化的保存跟推廣然後結果中央被因為特定的委員把這個預算刪掉\n導致我們推廣的這個場次進行不下去所以我這個是非常擔心啦所以我在這邊也是希望像主委剛剛講的還是盡量到時候如果預算可以有調配的空間的話盡量不要去影響到能力認證這方面的場次跟推廣\n雖然他可以補充,可是他的母親也受到影響,因為他的生存率是60%他在櫃台的一部分,所以每一項的宣傳都會很感受包括他的認真,比方說像認真,宣傳會跟他講要怎麼報名,要怎麼用\n感謝 感謝 因為那些人 人就不提供 有人要諮詢所以目前來說 那些受到影響的就報名的人數 可能沒那麼多對 這就是我擔心的對 光是你們宣傳費如果不夠 大家連考試的資訊都不知道\n那可能報名的人次就受影響那整個能夠被保存的這次能夠因為考試而推廣這個課與認證的範圍又縮小了這就是我最擔心的一件事情那最後還有點時間我來補充爭取一下因為我知道說你們今年有這個課加幣的計畫\n那我不知道說這個到底接下來會不會因為你們的可能通商那個636億被影響到或者是你們現在手上的31.9億還有凍結3.6億的目前的經費而受到影響那我希望不會\n那如果不会的话在这样的前提之下可以顺利的推行客家币的计划因为我知道里面其实政策蛮好的就是说18到20岁的本国的青年可以来参与抽签然后抽出40万份然后通过客语认证的还有客语家庭的人就可以来领然后去相关的这个客家的店家消费嘛那我目前看到的是因为你们目标是3000家可是目前大概只招到了800间\n相關的客家店家那我在想是不是因為你們把相關的範圍只限縮在客家文化重點發展城鄉裡面的行政區呢如果可以是不是再放寬就像我剛剛提到的我們高雄市區雖然高雄有四個六龜美濃然後山林甲仙除了這四個之外其實其他的行政區的客家人口也不少啊那像我們古山像我們三明鳳山其實都\n也有一定的客家比例的人口,那是不是也可以把這些行政區放進去,不要只限縮在客家文化發展的城鄉區呢?感謝李燕,李燕提的提議,我們待會在幾次研究看它是否有法律擴大或是一般的,一般的提起以外共學的重點,也要我們研究\n好謝謝主委那我的目的當然是希望說如果這一些城鄉發展區可以優先啦那重點是這一些使用客家幣的人口他們去客家的店家使用的時候可以有更多客家文化的交流嘛那包括說他的店家本身就是推廣客家文化的或者是他的店員是可以講客家話的那如果我們市區也有這樣的店家其實也可以把他們納入那目標就是三千間都可以都可以招進來嘛\n好 謝謝主委 謝謝\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:00.230 --> 00:02.476\n主席我們請顧主委好請主委好明天齁\n\n00:08.686 --> 00:14.427\n主委好可不可以在這邊先請妳說明解凍報告真的是因為你們不送才沒有辦法審理嗎?請問今天報告不是我們不送凡是投錢有業益的部分公募問題的因素就是636億而我們持行刪除的部分我們不在經驗的一端故事會影響到我們的學費多大會刪1.91還會比1.91更高\n\n00:38.134 --> 01:02.558\n好謝謝主委的說明我在這邊再幫主委再補充一下其實總預算從公告到現在也不過三個禮拜的時間光是這個準備的期間現在就要馬上送解凍報告根本非常不合情合理更何況這個解凍報告的專案報告的用意就是希望說預算執行之後看是不是有改善的空間再來專案報告嘛\n\n01:03.038 --> 01:30.488\n那你總預算到現在也才公告三周那你要去怎麼檢視這個預算執行期間到底有沒有改善所以現在就要送解凍報告真的是非常不合理的一件事情再加上剛剛主委說的因為立法院送出去的時候636億通刪並沒有告訴各個部會到底要各部會怎麼樣去分配自己要刪凍的金額導致現在各個部會都還不知道最後我到底還有哪些\n\n01:31.708 --> 01:57.551\n項目哪一些預算可能會被刪到連部會自己都不知道因為立法院沒有給啊所以很多國民黨跟民眾黨的委員還在講說為什麼解斷報告不趕快送出來不就他們害的所以我是在這邊替你們喊冤啦真的非常委屈喔那前面我也要講一下因為其實剛剛有委員提到說你們過去到現在即便刪了1.9億可是還是比去年多了3億\n\n01:58.832 --> 02:02.295\n那這個真的就不會影響你們預算執行嗎?真的不會影響你們在地方上推廣客家文化的行動嗎?民營報告一定有影響的,目前很寬度影響的用一個例子來講,剛才關心的白宮遮風站民營的站點數省重\n\n02:20.351 --> 02:29.893\n明年要判理的內容增加,從今年來說增加的強硬,因為那批餐廳的事情,要經費一定要增加要增加的經費,雖然說有增加,但是削減的以後不太會因為餐廳輸多,所以目前已經輸影響了所有的餐廳,三百分之四七同步供待,要那些吃吃的影響\n\n02:50.100 --> 02:59.324\n好謝謝主委的說明所以很明顯嘛剛剛也有一些委員自己提到說雖然說什麼三了1.9億但是還是增加了3億但實質上光是這個博光照護站就已經實質受影響了那我在這邊要提另外一點對於我高雄這邊的業務是比較有影響的因為裡面其實有一筆是這個客家語言升職計畫的委辦費被減列了1060萬元那這個\n\n03:18.132 --> 03:34.320\n我很擔心的是是不是會直接影響到客語能力認證的施策的場次目前我們清涼的肥膚也會有影響所以我們清涼的部分不會受到影響但是沒有確定以後的財產也會有多少影響\n\n03:43.700 --> 04:00.237\n好這個是我非常擔心的喔因為其實我們高雄也有四個是這個客家相關的莊就是包括美濃山林六龜甲仙嘛那其實在我們市區其實客家的人口也不少那像我們這邊古山就也有近兩成那還有三明也是兩三成\n\n04:00.817 --> 04:23.786\n那我很擔心說這樣子預算刪減下去或是這個凍結到時候沒有辦法解凍的話是不是會影響到我們這個失策的場次因為其實我也知道說像我們高雄真的很努力在推廣我們高雄的市府的課委會也是很努力所以這種本土文化的保存工作啊我們也是一直有在鼓勵大家趕快來考課餘這個能力的認證那甚至還提高了課餘能力的這個認證的獎勵金那我很擔心說如果到時候真的\n\n04:29.608 --> 04:43.333\n預算被迫減少然後考試的場次影響到的話那等於是前功盡棄我們這麼地方這麼努力的在做這個本土文化的保存跟推廣然後結果中央被因為特定的委員把這個預算刪掉\n\n04:44.993 --> 05:02.216\n導致我們推廣的這個場次進行不下去所以我這個是非常擔心啦所以我在這邊也是希望像主委剛剛講的還是盡量到時候如果預算可以有調配的空間的話盡量不要去影響到能力認證這方面的場次跟推廣\n\n05:02.897 --> 05:12.041\n雖然他可以補充,可是他的母親也受到影響,因為他的生存率是60%他在櫃台的一部分,所以每一項的宣傳都會很感受包括他的認真,比方說像認真,宣傳會跟他講要怎麼報名,要怎麼用\n\n05:25.646 --> 05:31.729\n感謝感謝因為那些人人就不提供有人要諮詢所以目前來說那些受到影響的就報名的人數可能沒那麼多對這就是我擔心的對光是你們宣傳費如果不夠大家連考試的資訊都不知道\n\n05:44.494 --> 05:46.736\n那可能報名的人次就受影響那整個能夠被保存的這次能夠因為考試而推廣這個課與認證的範圍又縮小了這就是我最擔心的一件事情那最後還有點時間我來補充爭取一下因為我知道說你們今年有這個課加幣的計畫\n\n06:01.610 --> 06:11.034\n那我不知道說這個到底接下來會不會因為你們的可能通商那個636億被影響到或者是你們現在手上的31.9億還有凍結3.6億的目前的經費而受到影響那我希望不會\n\n06:17.017 --> 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