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00:02:38,347\n那台中的產業是重中之重你也知道因為你來自台中嘛那很多都是以外銷出口為導向的一個傳統基礎工業那當然就有工協會的理事長在提出提醒\n\n9\n00:02:39,609 --> 00:02:53,907\n我們現在這個從宣布32%到降為10%但是有90天的一個關鍵的一個觀察期那這90天裡面現在從川普一宣布之後我們產業界的\n\n10\n00:02:55,228 --> 00:03:11,058\n非常擔心頭痛到暫緩90天現在的反而是雖然鬆了一口氣但是擔心的是90天以後怎麼辦那90天的這個關鍵期裡面現在又發生一件事情出貨\n\n11\n00:03:12,535 --> 00:03:29,004\n趕快要出我如果不敢在這90天出我未來不知道面對什麼狀況可能會好或是可能會更不好所以在這90天現在我們的台中的產業界代表告訴我我們交通部可不可以幫幫忙幫什麼忙船\n\n12\n00:03:31,484 --> 00:03:49,352\n倉位還有呢這個港口的相關的可以協助產業的部分那部長你說你開過會了那這個部分有沒有盤點報告委員這個部分我們也都有盤點那我上個禮拜我就說這個變化很快但幅度不大\n\n13\n00:03:50,012 --> 00:04:07,232\n上個禮拜我來這邊備詢的時候那個時候我是說當時是還32%的時候我說大概降了5%我們整個艙位的數量有人退運了嘛所以降了差不多5%那到了這個禮拜回復到原本水準以外再增加了5%也就是說現在艙位大概是90%到95%左右\n\n14\n00:04:09,855 --> 00:04:33,357\n那目前都還有空位這個部分我們隨時都在盤點隨時掌握情況對沒有錯數字都在掌握那另外其實委員你也跟我提醒過好幾次所以我們這個航港局這邊其實禮拜十八號我們十八號禮拜五就會開一個平穩小組的會議隨時盤點除了數量之外那傳奇餐外之外還有就是它的價格我們也希望能夠平穩\n\n15\n00:04:33,837 --> 00:04:51,428\n重點是價格對所以這個部分我們18號就會開這個平穩的這個小組來討論這件事所以你現在航廠局在官網設置一個急用需求的調查表是那目前有出口業者填報嗎8號會員目前沒有目前沒有我們每天都會關注有在關注每天都會看\n\n16\n00:04:52,409 --> 00:05:07,430\n認為沒有的原因是在剛剛部長所講的盤點出來我們現在還有餘裕所以目前還有餘裕還有餘裕所以我希望啦在你4月18號的這個小組會就是下面下一頁\n\n17\n00:05:08,211 --> 00:05:24,748\n我們要先做好準備因為剛剛部長講的現在看起來好像我們可以安然度過但是呢90天之後不知道那再扣除可能在海上或在海上要30天所以90天扣掉30天可能是60天我們現在中部的產業界不斷地在\n\n18\n00:05:27,111 --> 00:05:41,552\n趕貨趕出貨那業者說能不能上船對不起能不能上得了這個貨船是一個非常大的一個挑戰所以最重要是價格\n\n19\n00:05:42,313 --> 00:06:06,073\n最重要是價格所以這個國際海運運輸的平穩的工作小組這個會議4月18號要開有召集哪些人來開經出口的商業同業工會還有各類別的同業工會產業工會另外就是我們三大國籍的行商還有我們經濟部、農業部相關的部會都有參與\n\n20\n00:06:07,254 --> 00:06:34,870\n業者業者代表產業界呢產業界就是剛剛報告的包括工具機的這個同位公會機械同位公會還有進出口的三個同位公會所以產業界代表都有邀請有代表來參加啦工協會的代表那再來還有就是這個航運啊出口業者啦進出口公會等等啦這個一定都要在裡面好不好那4月18號結果如何也讓我們交通委員會委員知道一下那接下來\n\n21\n00:06:35,911 --> 00:06:57,529\n台中除了產業再來就是交通跟觀光那上次我們去豐原考察部長也到現場所以我們去考察的時候是說豐原是北台中的一個最重要的一個交通樞紐也是一個轉成的一個中心那每年大概有600萬的人次上下車那我們現在只有兩個班\n\n22\n00:07:00,031 --> 00:07:21,291\n應該是說往返四個班次去兩班回來兩班直達車現場考察的時候部長有承諾說願意來調整希望能夠增加增加不僅僅是增加直達的包括半直達的那部長你打算怎麼調整\n\n23\n00:07:22,812 --> 00:07:44,203\n這個部分應該台鐵公司已經有做調整我們現在目前剛提到平常日大概有兩個列次現在我們要再增加一倍變成六個列次再增加兩個列次所以會變成六個列次那五六日尖峰會從六列變成八列\n\n24\n00:07:45,203 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進出口公會等等啦這個一定都要在裡面好不好那4月18號結果如何也讓我們交通委員會委員知道一下那接下來\n395911\t417529\t台中除了產業再來就是交通跟觀光那上次我們去豐原考察部長也到現場所以我們去考察的時候是說豐原是北台中的一個最重要的一個交通樞紐也是一個轉成的一個中心那每年大概有600萬的人次上下車那我們現在只有兩個班\n420031\t441291\t應該是說往返四個班次去兩班回來兩班直達車現場考察的時候部長有承諾說願意來調整希望能夠增加增加不僅僅是增加直達的包括半直達的那部長你打算怎麼調整\n442812\t464203\t這個部分應該台鐵公司已經有做調整我們現在目前剛提到平常日大概有兩個列次現在我們要再增加一倍變成六個列次再增加兩個列次所以會變成六個列次那五六日尖峰會從六列變成八列\n465203\t475237\t所以這樣我們這樣算下啦每一週我們大概從本來的32列次改點以後大概6月26會改點大概會變成48個列次那請問一下什麼時候開始\n476677\t496650\t6月26號會整個班表改點那6月26號就開始6月26號就開始那我們可以試狀況未來如果可以增加也可以再增加嗎我們可以觀察譬如說半年或者是明年再來看看如果真的需求量大的話是不是可以再增加可以再滾動試檢討好不好以上謝謝\n","txt":"好謝謝趙偉我們是不是先請陳部長\n我想剛剛盧偉宇在講川普經濟學宣布美國高關稅世界大地震台灣當然也是震得不小但是我們對行政院非常有信心因為各界對談判我想行政院在最快的速度由副院長曾立軍來領軍\n一直在盤點我相信部長也有被盤點到吧你要不要說一下在你交通部的部分剛剛其實好多位委員在提到不管是有關車的問題還有非關稅貿易障礙的問題在你交通部的部分行政院請你盤點的有哪些\n報告委員其實細節當然不能講啦有談判的代表他們去原則性跟大概原則上是針對這個汽車的這個非關稅的貿易障礙的部分我們其實部內也有盤點過那跟行政院那邊也有盤點過那大家已經有對好了對美談判的大概會怎麼說會有幾套劇本對幾套劇本其實也都有啦所以所有的非關稅貿易障礙只要跟交通部相關的我們其實都有盤點過都已經盤點過對都有盤點過那一項一項的都有去評估了\n就是所謂的未來談判的過程或是談判後不管是對這個國內的影響或者是對於在這個談判過程裡面我們如何能夠獲得台灣人民整體最大的利益為原則\n是沒有錯而且還能夠安然的度過這個難關其實這件事從川普的這個他的關稅的政策出來之後我們就開始在盤點那也開始跟這個行政院那邊大家都有一個默契那也有開過會那所有的細節也都對過了所以這個部分跟委員報請大家放心\n請大家放心那我們對你有信心我們對行政院有信心我們的執政團隊有信心但是接下來我要請你再盤點一件事情這個禮拜呢經濟委員會有去台中考察那考察當然是關心這個美國高關稅政策裡面對台中的產業的影響\n那台中的產業是重中之重你也知道因為你來自台中嘛那很多都是以外銷出口為導向的一個傳統基礎工業那當然就有工協會的理事長在提出提醒\n我們現在這個從宣布32%到降為10%但是有90天的一個關鍵的一個觀察期那這90天裡面現在從川普一宣布之後我們產業界的\n非常擔心頭痛到暫緩90天現在的反而是雖然鬆了一口氣但是擔心的是90天以後怎麼辦那90天的這個關鍵期裡面現在又發生一件事情出貨\n趕快要出我如果不敢在這90天出我未來不知道面對什麼狀況可能會好或是可能會更不好所以在這90天現在我們的台中的產業界代表告訴我我們交通部可不可以幫幫忙幫什麼忙船\n倉位還有呢這個港口的相關的可以協助產業的部分那部長你說你開過會了那這個部分有沒有盤點報告委員這個部分我們也都有盤點那我上個禮拜我就說這個變化很快但幅度不大\n上個禮拜我來這邊備詢的時候那個時候我是說當時是還32%的時候我說大概降了5%我們整個艙位的數量有人退運了嘛所以降了差不多5%那到了這個禮拜回復到原本水準以外再增加了5%也就是說現在艙位大概是90%到95%左右\n那目前都還有空位這個部分我們隨時都在盤點隨時掌握情況對沒有錯數字都在掌握那另外其實委員你也跟我提醒過好幾次所以我們這個航港局這邊其實禮拜十八號我們十八號禮拜五就會開一個平穩小組的會議隨時盤點除了數量之外那傳奇餐外之外還有就是它的價格我們也希望能夠平穩\n重點是價格對所以這個部分我們18號就會開這個平穩的這個小組來討論這件事所以你現在航廠局在官網設置一個急用需求的調查表是那目前有出口業者填報嗎8號會員目前沒有目前沒有我們每天都會關注有在關注每天都會看\n認為沒有的原因是在剛剛部長所講的盤點出來我們現在還有餘裕所以目前還有餘裕還有餘裕所以我希望啦在你4月18號的這個小組會就是下面下一頁\n我們要先做好準備因為剛剛部長講的現在看起來好像我們可以安然度過但是呢90天之後不知道那再扣除可能在海上或在海上要30天所以90天扣掉30天可能是60天我們現在中部的產業界不斷地在\n趕貨 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