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用雪山這些名稱好像看起來是外國啤酒事實上全部都是產自於中國大陸這非常非常的危險而且他們每一瓶的單價都比我們國產啤酒還便宜那依我們調出來的資料我們2024年中國啤酒\n內銷的單價是台幣23.94元當然國產啤酒這個單價我們總是高達43.93元銷價的幅度高達45%所以我想一個價差的落差會造成我們很多的鄉親這個當然是選擇便宜的啤酒來飲用但是這個就造成我們一個台灣一個很嚴重的一個國安危機那部長我想這個案子相關的業者他們也提出一個反傾銷的一個案子\n那財政部這個目前的處理進度請部長說明一下謝謝委員對於中國大陸產製的進口啤酒已經由我們台灣的釀酒商協會提出申請然後申請反傾銷的調查目前已經是由經濟部和財政部一起在調查當中那調查結果以後只要有傾銷的事實而且影響到國內的產業的話那麼就我們會提送到我們的關稅稅率審議小組來做審議那如果有這樣的一個情況就可以\n核克初步的臨時課徵反請銷稅就可以做這個部長你們有沒有其他的外在壓力沒有啊沒有啦該怎麼做就怎麼做啊我們就是公平來調查嘛當然要進行相關的調查是\n那我想除了我們這個展開一個反傾銷的一個調查之外那我想本席這邊也期望我們當然還是要增加我們國內產業的一個競爭力那所以本席有針對因為過去我們這個主要我們台灣針對這個麥芽也好啤酒花也好栽種的面積有限那所以我想我們很多都仰賴進口但是這個總是有一個關稅的一個壓力那本席也提出了一個啤酒花關稅調降到齡的一個案子\n那部長財政部這邊是不是會來支持這樣的一個增加國內產業競爭力的提案對於有關啤酒的產業裡面主要的一個原料是啤酒花跟麥芽那這部分那是不是要進口調降關稅的部分目前我們也還在研議當中是也要了解它實際上會不會有什麼樣的影響部長那這個大概多久時間可以給本席一個報告\n這個部分我們是不是可以再那這樣的話我們是不是再兩個月給委員一個報告好那就兩個月好謝謝委員謝謝那另外我想我剛剛特別提到這個中國的啤酒他們藉著這個Kirimba還有雪山還有\n這個甚至是不一樣的進口品牌來這個進口那官網又特別打出了一個台灣原創的一個品牌實在是匪夷所思那更遺憾的是台北市政府在調查的時候竟然還包庇這個竟然查不出一個具體的一個成果讓我們非常遺憾那部長我想你在我們這個圖示上面從九類標示的管理辦法第13條上面的第一款就有特別提到\n所謂一個地理標示他就是必須要足以證明該來源是該商品的原產地而且應該也符合各該地區的一個國家的一個規定那我想寫得那麼清楚那部長站在主管機關我們可以放任地方政府這樣混淆一個產品的販售嗎不可以剛剛其實委員講的像剛剛幾款那個啤酒他不就是把那個外面譬如說\n這個部分造成消費者的混淆所以這個部分依照管理辦法我們財政部的國庫署已經發解釋函令地方政府要確實好好的查而且不能有混淆的情況什麼時候調查的報告會拿到\n這個我們解釋函令已經發下去了,是不是署長可以說明一下是,跟委員報告,剛剛我們部長講的一些那種足以讓消費者混淆誤以為原產地不是在台灣的這樣的一個誤認的事實的話我們這個解釋令,也就是說不管是酒的那個包裝或者是廣告都不能有這樣的情形,那這個解釋令已經發了\n但是我們執行面有問題啊那這個部分的話地方政府他們會依據我們的解釋令去落實執行\n我希望還是財政部要再緊追啦這個部份要緊追而且也要求地方政府要有相關的進度基查的進度要回報回來好是好那最後一個我想針對農產品息產力的部分還是要請我們相關單位做好準備尤其這個我們現在關稅的競爭之後很多我們的農業產品很可能變成這個中國的一個息產力的一個\n出考的一個很重要的一個要件那所以這部分我們過去的一個裁罰基準是不是應該要做提升甚至做有效的管制我想這個請相關單位再做好研議謝謝\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:08.408 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