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00:02:06,958\n部長我想我們還是要未雨綢繆甚至超前部署那我想我再舉這樣的一個例子過去我們在疫情期間我們交通部針對一個觀光的一個振興一個復甦的方案提出了一個大概將近500億的一個計畫包含一個觀光業跟交通運輸一個紓困還有一個轉型的計畫那我想面對這樣子目前這個國內旅遊市場這個因為受到國外旅遊市場的一個競爭\n\n7\n00:02:08,139 --> 00:02:20,270\n我想針對這樣子過去我們推動的包含國旅券包含那個住宿的補助還有團友的一個獎勵補助甚至景區跟這個環境的一個轉型的一個計畫\n\n8\n00:02:21,380 --> 00:02:49,200\n那部長我們有沒有針對目前這個國內旅遊市場低一米的狀況有沒有再考慮採取這樣的這幾個配套措施報告委員就像我剛剛跟您報告的這次的關稅的這個影響到目前為止看起來數據上影響是不大沒有什麼太大的影響那不過您所提的這幾個振興的方案我們也會研擬在我們秋季或者是冬季的時候因為夏季眼看就到了那目前還評估不太出來因為他那個關稅還有個90天的這個\n\n9\n00:02:51,041 --> 00:03:13,055\n的期間嘛那我們秋季跟冬季的部分我們會先預作準備預擬方案那不過到時候到底景氣的狀況是往下或往上我相信現在沒有任何一個國家評估的出來但是還是要做好準備我們會先預作準備也就是跟委員報告我們秋季跟冬季的部分我們先做計畫把它擬定起來準備來協助振興觀光的部分\n\n10\n00:03:14,095 --> 00:03:33,129\n那所以就是下半年的部分我們就隨時做好因應的政策不過我想目前我們觀光業他們還是擔心這個缺工的問題那當然我們過去我們在2030年的觀光政策白皮書有特別提到我們觀光署要成立一個財團法人的觀光研訓院\n\n11\n00:03:33,829 --> 00:03:59,258\n那我們戰利俊副院長也有特別要求觀光署用一年的時間來成立這樣的一個機構那請教部長跟署長我們目前經過三個月了這個成立的進度為何是報告委員我們這個觀光研訓院的部分我們會預計在年底之前會可以完成那這些我們部裡面也都開過會我也跟周署長開過會那我們部裡面相關單位包含財主單位大家有開過會針對未來的這個設置的計畫\n\n12\n00:04:02,899 --> 00:04:27,795\n跟未來的這個基金的這個來源就是資金的來源的部分我們也都有一定的方案那目前正在寫計畫當中我們大概這個月的月底大概就會有一個比較具體的方案會報過來我知道部長跟署長大概這幾年大概為了這個國內外觀光大概有很多的想法跟對策不過我覺得這個我們還是要與時俱進我覺得我們古年生活今年就不一定好用\n\n13\n00:04:29,336 --> 00:04:41,385\n尤其我覺得整個觀光環境的這個變遷也非常非常大那我們的這個遊客也好甚至我們鄉親他的對於旅遊的想法也隨時都在改變所以這個真的是要隨時有滾動檢討的必要性\n\n14\n00:04:46,249 --> 00:05:07,587\n那回過頭來我還是要提到屏東觀光那部長我想您自己本身也很常下去這個恆春啊是你覺得恆春這個屏東公路目前我們大概就走屏東公路吧因為過去我們這個也有相關的機構委託公關公司提到屏東觀光的一個問題那其中被最大的一個詬病的其中一個要點就是\n\n15\n00:05:09,288 --> 00:05:35,597\n關於這個交通的問題尤其我們現在目前當然我們現在目前針對高鐵也好捷運也好平台快速到達這幾條路的那個進度讓它加快進行但是這個交通擁捨跟測出照相機過多發達很多這本事件很難聽部長這部分有沒有辦法跟內政部跟相關的單位來做研究看怎麼樣因為總是設置了一個時間之後是不是應該要做調整\n\n16\n00:05:36,428 --> 00:05:38,589\n報告委員您剛剛所說的塞車的問題其實您也關心過很多次\n\n17\n00:06:06,988 --> 00:06:22,817\n會設置一些測速照相就是因為有出過一些車禍所以才會設置代表當時的車速或許是過快才會有測速照相那測速照相之後也確實有一些成效啦坦白講就是車禍的狀況變少了那現在會不會太多以我自己\n\n18\n00:06:23,577 --> 00:06:50,789\n開車因為我時常開車去墾丁再加人過去我是沒有被拍照的經驗但是有一些人確實是覺得這個取締有點太多那這個部分我們跟警政單位大家來溝通一下有沒有可能讓大家又安全然後又守法不過不要時常有罰單的這個狀況我們來溝通看看我們支持這個危險路口一定要來做加強這個取締但是有些路段真的確實可以檢討把它放寬不然這個有時候路上或許\n\n19\n00:06:51,129 --> 00:06:55,679\n或許是針對車速的部分大家可以來做討論確定車速是一個很大的問題\n\n20\n00:06:57,914 --> 00:07:13,742\n那另外我想我們屏東有茂館處茂林國家公園風景區管理處跟大鵬灣風景區管理處那過去其實我們在這個好幾個鄉鎮長都有跟我反映有沒有可能我們這兩個風景處的那個範圍裡面把周邊的鄉鎮把它納編進來他們很要讓你們服務\n\n21\n00:07:23,290 --> 00:07:41,499\n擴大的議題其實很多縣市也都有這樣的期望那我們之前台中的霧峰區也加入了33管理處那委員也關心很多次那我們也會來討論這個議題就是說其他的地方有沒有可能加入不過有一些是特定區的問題我們來想辦法解套\n\n22\n00:07:44,680 --> 00:08:12,759\n部長我想就是排除特殯區之外那其他有意願的部分能不能一起來納入合作最起碼這個我們相關整個不管是這個旅遊資源也好農特產品甚至你們最拿手的觀光推廣部分整個中央跟地方一起來合作我們也可以用另外一個方式就是用觀光圈的方式我們設定觀光圈然後把它納進來是觀光圈裡面也是可以協助的到這部分我到時候我會再邀縣政府跟相關的單位再跟你們一起來討論\n\n23\n00:08:13,860 --> 00:08:28,935\n那最後就是我想那個這個票價的問題那台鐵一調了之後台北到屏東的票價破千了那未來這樣子是不是會影響到我們鄉親的權益甚至很多這個旅遊的一個鐵道米這個旅遊的一個\n\n24\n00:08:32,238 --> 00:08:48,955\n衝擊那甚至我們這個高鐵我知道我們有做一些的旅遊套餐的一個配套措施但是因為我們很多的優質的一些飯店跟民宿的業者一直往往都得不到我們高鐵關愛的眼神沒得變合作對象有點可惜啦那這部分是不是可以來做事實的一個檢討調整\n\n25\n00:08:50,976 --> 00:09:19,856\n其實台鐵這是票價的調漲他遞遠是遞減所以如果你說台北到潮州或者台北到屏東這個非常遠的距離他反而那個票價的漲幅是低的那不過委員一直在關心針對這個觀光的影響那我們也會請台鐵公司如果可以的話我們也跟地方的一些觀光業者大家有一個套票或者有什麼樣的合作方案讓未來住飯店也便宜然後交通費用也便宜大家比較願意往南\n\n26\n00:09:20,837 --> 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報告委員我們這個觀光研訓院的部分我們會預計在年底之前會可以完成那這些我們部裡面也都開過會我也跟周署長開過會那我們部裡面相關單位包含財主單位大家有開過會針對未來的這個設置的計畫\n242899\t267795\t跟未來的這個基金的這個來源就是資金的來源的部分我們也都有一定的方案那目前正在寫計畫當中我們大概這個月的月底大概就會有一個比較具體的方案會報過來我知道部長跟署長大概這幾年大概為了這個國內外觀光大概有很多的想法跟對策不過我覺得這個我們還是要與時俱進我覺得我們古年生活今年就不一定好用\n269336\t281385\t尤其我覺得整個觀光環境的這個變遷也非常非常大那我們的這個遊客也好甚至我們鄉親他的對於旅遊的想法也隨時都在改變所以這個真的是要隨時有滾動檢討的必要性\n286249\t307587\t那回過頭來我還是要提到屏東觀光那部長我想您自己本身也很常下去這個恆春啊是你覺得恆春這個屏東公路目前我們大概就走屏東公路吧因為過去我們這個也有相關的機構委託公關公司提到屏東觀光的一個問題那其中被最大的一個詬病的其中一個要點就是\n309288\t335597\t關於這個交通的問題尤其我們現在目前當然我們現在目前針對高鐵也好捷運也好平台快速到達這幾條路的那個進度讓它加快進行但是這個交通擁捨跟測出照相機過多發達很多這本事件很難聽部長這部分有沒有辦法跟內政部跟相關的單位來做研究看怎麼樣因為總是設置了一個時間之後是不是應該要做調整\n336428\t338589\t報告委員您剛剛所說的塞車的問題其實您也關心過很多次\n366988\t382817\t會設置一些測速照相就是因為有出過一些車禍所以才會設置代表當時的車速或許是過快才會有測速照相那測速照相之後也確實有一些成效啦坦白講就是車禍的狀況變少了那現在會不會太多以我自己\n383577\t410789\t開車因為我時常開車去墾丁再加人過去我是沒有被拍照的經驗但是有一些人確實是覺得這個取締有點太多那這個部分我們跟警政單位大家來溝通一下有沒有可能讓大家又安全然後又守法不過不要時常有罰單的這個狀況我們來溝通看看我們支持這個危險路口一定要來做加強這個取締但是有些路段真的確實可以檢討把它放寬不然這個有時候路上或許\n411129\t415679\t或許是針對車速的部分大家可以來做討論確定車速是一個很大的問題\n417914\t433742\t那另外我想我們屏東有茂館處茂林國家公園風景區管理處跟大鵬灣風景區管理處那過去其實我們在這個好幾個鄉鎮長都有跟我反映有沒有可能我們這兩個風景處的那個範圍裡面把周邊的鄉鎮把它納編進來他們很要讓你們服務\n443290\t461499\t擴大的議題其實很多縣市也都有這樣的期望那我們之前台中的霧峰區也加入了33管理處那委員也關心很多次那我們也會來討論這個議題就是說其他的地方有沒有可能加入不過有一些是特定區的問題我們來想辦法解套\n464680\t492759\t部長我想就是排除特殯區之外那其他有意願的部分能不能一起來納入合作最起碼這個我們相關整個不管是這個旅遊資源也好農特產品甚至你們最拿手的觀光推廣部分整個中央跟地方一起來合作我們也可以用另外一個方式就是用觀光圈的方式我們設定觀光圈然後把它納進來是觀光圈裡面也是可以協助的到這部分我到時候我會再邀縣政府跟相關的單位再跟你們一起來討論\n493860\t508935\t那最後就是我想那個這個票價的問題那台鐵一調了之後台北到屏東的票價破千了那未來這樣子是不是會影響到我們鄉親的權益甚至很多這個旅遊的一個鐵道米這個旅遊的一個\n512238\t528955\t衝擊那甚至我們這個高鐵我知道我們有做一些的旅遊套餐的一個配套措施但是因為我們很多的優質的一些飯店跟民宿的業者一直往往都得不到我們高鐵關愛的眼神沒得變合作對象有點可惜啦那這部分是不是可以來做事實的一個檢討調整\n530976\t559856\t其實台鐵這是票價的調漲他遞遠是遞減所以如果你說台北到潮州或者台北到屏東這個非常遠的距離他反而那個票價的漲幅是低的那不過委員一直在關心針對這個觀光的影響那我們也會請台鐵公司如果可以的話我們也跟地方的一些觀光業者大家有一個套票或者有什麼樣的合作方案讓未來住飯店也便宜然後交通費用也便宜大家比較願意往南\n560837\t567513\t我覺得就是我們擇優然後來共存共榮把這個餅做大嘛這部分大家一起來努力啦好好謝謝好謝謝委員\n","txt":"謝主席 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幾八趴然後以下給你降到十趴雖然是目前暫緩不過真的也讓全世界很多產業受到很大的驚嚇\n那我想最近我們行政院我們左院長也帶領我們許多的團隊在各縣市跟我們各行各業的企業界包含我們一些農業的業者在座談\n那部長我請請教那因為目前行政院提出881的一個支持方案那針對交通部的部分我們這邊有什麼樣一個因應方案嗎報告委員目前他的這個方案裡面主要是農業跟工業為主還有勞工大概分這幾塊那目前對於我們交通部的部分其實大家評估比較有可能受影響的是觀光\n觀光到現在為止我們看起來的數據是沒有受到影響到現在為止不過對於未來的評估我們正在盤點當中而且我們也有會想一些這個支持業者的方案因為真正如果發生比較負面趨勢的狀況底下比較影響會大的是我們的國內的業者那這個部分的協助的方案我們正在研擬\n部長我想我們還是要未雨綢繆甚至超前部署那我想我再舉這樣的一個例子過去我們在疫情期間我們交通部針對一個觀光的一個振興一個復甦的方案提出了一個大概將近500億的一個計畫包含一個觀光業跟交通運輸一個紓困還有一個轉型的計畫那我想面對這樣子目前這個國內旅遊市場這個因為受到國外旅遊市場的一個競爭\n我想針對這樣子過去我們推動的包含國旅券包含那個住宿的補助還有團友的一個獎勵補助甚至景區跟這個環境的一個轉型的一個計畫\n那部長我們有沒有針對目前這個國內旅遊市場低一米的狀況有沒有再考慮採取這樣的這幾個配套措施報告委員就像我剛剛跟您報告的這次的關稅的這個影響到目前為止看起來數據上影響是不大沒有什麼太大的影響那不過您所提的這幾個振興的方案我們也會研擬在我們秋季或者是冬季的時候因為夏季眼看就到了那目前還評估不太出來因為他那個關稅還有個90天的這個\n的期間嘛那我們秋季跟冬季的部分我們會先預作準備預擬方案那不過到時候到底景氣的狀況是往下或往上我相信現在沒有任何一個國家評估的出來但是還是要做好準備我們會先預作準備也就是跟委員報告我們秋季跟冬季的部分我們先做計畫把它擬定起來準備來協助振興觀光的部分\n那所以就是下半年的部分我們就隨時做好因應的政策不過我想目前我們觀光業他們還是擔心這個缺工的問題那當然我們過去我們在2030年的觀光政策白皮書有特別提到我們觀光署要成立一個財團法人的觀光研訓院\n那我們戰利俊副院長也有特別要求觀光署用一年的時間來成立這樣的一個機構那請教部長跟署長我們目前經過三個月了這個成立的進度為何是 報告委員我們這個觀光研訓院的部分我們會預計在年底之前會可以完成那這些我們部裡面也都開過會我也跟周署長開過會那我們部裡面相關單位包含財主單位大家有開過會針對未來的這個設置的計畫\n跟未來的這個基金的這個來源就是資金的來源的部分我們也都有一定的方案那目前正在寫計畫當中我們大概這個月的月底大概就會有一個比較具體的方案會報過來我知道部長跟署長大概這幾年大概為了這個國內外觀光大概有很多的想法跟對策不過我覺得這個我們還是要與時俱進我覺得我們古年生活今年就不一定好用\n尤其我覺得整個觀光環境的這個變遷也非常非常大那我們的這個遊客也好甚至我們鄉親他的對於旅遊的想法也隨時都在改變所以這個真的是要隨時有滾動檢討的必要性\n那回過頭來我還是要提到屏東觀光那部長我想您自己本身也很常下去這個恆春啊是你覺得恆春這個屏東公路目前我們大概就走屏東公路吧因為過去我們這個也有相關的機構委託公關公司提到屏東觀光的一個問題那其中被最大的一個詬病的其中一個要點就是\n關於這個交通的問題尤其我們現在目前當然我們現在目前針對高鐵也好捷運也好平台快速到達這幾條路的那個進度讓它加快進行但是這個交通擁捨跟測出照相機過多發達很多這本事件很難聽部長這部分有沒有辦法跟內政部跟相關的單位來做研究看怎麼樣因為總是設置了一個時間之後是不是應該要做調整\n報告委員您剛剛所說的塞車的問題其實您也關心過很多次\n會設置一些測速照相就是因為有出過一些車禍所以才會設置代表當時的車速或許是過快才會有測速照相那測速照相之後也確實有一些成效啦坦白講就是車禍的狀況變少了那現在會不會太多以我自己\n開車因為我時常開車去墾丁再加人過去我是沒有被拍照的經驗但是有一些人確實是覺得這個取締有點太多那這個部分我們跟警政單位大家來溝通一下有沒有可能讓大家又安全然後又守法不過不要時常有罰單的這個狀況我們來溝通看看我們支持這個危險路口一定要來做加強這個取締但是有些路段真的確實可以檢討把它放寬不然這個有時候路上或許\n或許是針對車速的部分大家可以來做討論確定車速是一個很大的問題\n那另外我想我們屏東有茂館處茂林國家公園風景區管理處跟大鵬灣風景區管理處那過去其實我們在這個好幾個鄉鎮長都有跟我反映有沒有可能我們這兩個風景處的那個範圍裡面把周邊的鄉鎮把它納編進來他們很要讓你們服務\n擴大的議題其實很多縣市也都有這樣的期望那我們之前台中的霧峰區也加入了33管理處那委員也關心很多次那我們也會來討論這個議題就是說其他的地方有沒有可能加入不過有一些是特定區的問題我們來想辦法解套\n部長我想就是排除特殯區之外那其他有意願的部分能不能一起來納入合作最起碼這個我們相關整個不管是這個旅遊資源也好農特產品甚至你們最拿手的觀光推廣部分整個中央跟地方一起來合作我們也可以用另外一個方式就是用觀光圈的方式我們設定觀光圈然後把它納進來是觀光圈裡面也是可以協助的到這部分我到時候我會再邀縣政府跟相關的單位再跟你們一起來討論\n那最後就是我想那個這個票價的問題那台鐵一調了之後台北到屏東的票價破千了那未來這樣子是不是會影響到我們鄉親的權益甚至很多這個旅遊的一個鐵道米這個旅遊的一個\n衝擊那甚至我們這個高鐵我知道我們有做一些的旅遊套餐的一個配套措施但是因為我們很多的優質的一些飯店跟民宿的業者一直往往都得不到我們高鐵關愛的眼神沒得變合作對象有點可惜啦那這部分是不是可以來做事實的一個檢討調整\n其實台鐵這是票價的調漲他遞遠是遞減所以如果你說台北到潮州或者台北到屏東這個非常遠的距離他反而那個票價的漲幅是低的那不過委員一直在關心針對這個觀光的影響那我們也會請台鐵公司如果可以的話我們也跟地方的一些觀光業者大家有一個套票或者有什麼樣的合作方案讓未來住飯店也便宜然後交通費用也便宜大家比較願意往南\n我覺得就是我們擇優然後來共存共榮把這個餅做大嘛這部分大家一起來努力啦好好謝謝好謝謝委員\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:04.499 --> 00:06.887\n謝主席有請我們陳部長跟周署長好陳部長周署長\n\n00:17.001 --> 00:38.139\n委員好部長好署長好我想這陣子全球大家好像在洗喪溫暖以下美國總統川普喊出的關稅四五十趴幾八趴然後以下給你降到十趴雖然是目前暫緩不過真的也讓全世界很多產業受到很大的驚嚇\n\n00:39.480 --> 00:49.927\n那我想最近我們行政院我們左院長也帶領我們許多的團隊在各縣市跟我們各行各業的企業界包含我們一些農業的業者在座談\n\n00:50.970 --> 01:14.015\n那部長我請請教那因為目前行政院提出881的一個支持方案那針對交通部的部分我們這邊有什麼樣一個因應方案嗎報告委員目前他的這個方案裡面主要是農業跟工業為主還有勞工大概分這幾塊那目前對於我們交通部的部分其實大家評估比較有可能受影響的是觀光\n\n01:15.035 --> 01:36.922\n觀光到現在為止我們看起來的數據是沒有受到影響到現在為止不過對於未來的評估我們正在盤點當中而且我們也有會想一些這個支持業者的方案因為真正如果發生比較負面趨勢的狀況底下比較影響會大的是我們的國內的業者那這個部分的協助的方案我們正在研擬\n\n01:37.979 --> 02:06.958\n部長我想我們還是要未雨綢繆甚至超前部署那我想我再舉這樣的一個例子過去我們在疫情期間我們交通部針對一個觀光的一個振興一個復甦的方案提出了一個大概將近500億的一個計畫包含一個觀光業跟交通運輸一個紓困還有一個轉型的計畫那我想面對這樣子目前這個國內旅遊市場這個因為受到國外旅遊市場的一個競爭\n\n02:08.139 --> 02:20.270\n我想針對這樣子過去我們推動的包含國旅券包含那個住宿的補助還有團友的一個獎勵補助甚至景區跟這個環境的一個轉型的一個計畫\n\n02:21.380 --> 02:49.200\n那部長我們有沒有針對目前這個國內旅遊市場低一米的狀況有沒有再考慮採取這樣的這幾個配套措施報告委員就像我剛剛跟您報告的這次的關稅的這個影響到目前為止看起來數據上影響是不大沒有什麼太大的影響那不過您所提的這幾個振興的方案我們也會研擬在我們秋季或者是冬季的時候因為夏季眼看就到了那目前還評估不太出來因為他那個關稅還有個90天的這個\n\n02:51.041 --> 03:13.055\n的期間嘛那我們秋季跟冬季的部分我們會先預作準備預擬方案那不過到時候到底景氣的狀況是往下或往上我相信現在沒有任何一個國家評估的出來但是還是要做好準備我們會先預作準備也就是跟委員報告我們秋季跟冬季的部分我們先做計畫把它擬定起來準備來協助振興觀光的部分\n\n03:14.095 --> 03:33.129\n那所以就是下半年的部分我們就隨時做好因應的政策不過我想目前我們觀光業他們還是擔心這個缺工的問題那當然我們過去我們在2030年的觀光政策白皮書有特別提到我們觀光署要成立一個財團法人的觀光研訓院\n\n03:33.829 --> 03:59.258\n那我們戰利俊副院長也有特別要求觀光署用一年的時間來成立這樣的一個機構那請教部長跟署長我們目前經過三個月了這個成立的進度為何是報告委員我們這個觀光研訓院的部分我們會預計在年底之前會可以完成那這些我們部裡面也都開過會我也跟周署長開過會那我們部裡面相關單位包含財主單位大家有開過會針對未來的這個設置的計畫\n\n04:02.899 --> 04:27.795\n跟未來的這個基金的這個來源就是資金的來源的部分我們也都有一定的方案那目前正在寫計畫當中我們大概這個月的月底大概就會有一個比較具體的方案會報過來我知道部長跟署長大概這幾年大概為了這個國內外觀光大概有很多的想法跟對策不過我覺得這個我們還是要與時俱進我覺得我們古年生活今年就不一定好用\n\n04:29.336 --> 04:41.385\n尤其我覺得整個觀光環境的這個變遷也非常非常大那我們的這個遊客也好甚至我們鄉親他的對於旅遊的想法也隨時都在改變所以這個真的是要隨時有滾動檢討的必要性\n\n04:46.249 --> 05:07.587\n那回過頭來我還是要提到屏東觀光那部長我想您自己本身也很常下去這個恆春啊是你覺得恆春這個屏東公路目前我們大概就走屏東公路吧因為過去我們這個也有相關的機構委託公關公司提到屏東觀光的一個問題那其中被最大的一個詬病的其中一個要點就是\n\n05:09.288 --> 05:35.597\n關於這個交通的問題尤其我們現在目前當然我們現在目前針對高鐵也好捷運也好平台快速到達這幾條路的那個進度讓它加快進行但是這個交通擁捨跟測出照相機過多發達很多這本事件很難聽部長這部分有沒有辦法跟內政部跟相關的單位來做研究看怎麼樣因為總是設置了一個時間之後是不是應該要做調整\n\n05:36.428 --> 05:38.589\n報告委員您剛剛所說的塞車的問題其實您也關心過很多次\n\n06:06.988 --> 06:22.817\n會設置一些測速照相就是因為有出過一些車禍所以才會設置代表當時的車速或許是過快才會有測速照相那測速照相之後也確實有一些成效啦坦白講就是車禍的狀況變少了那現在會不會太多以我自己\n\n06:23.577 --> 06:50.789\n開車因為我時常開車去墾丁再加人過去我是沒有被拍照的經驗但是有一些人確實是覺得這個取締有點太多那這個部分我們跟警政單位大家來溝通一下有沒有可能讓大家又安全然後又守法不過不要時常有罰單的這個狀況我們來溝通看看我們支持這個危險路口一定要來做加強這個取締但是有些路段真的確實可以檢討把它放寬不然這個有時候路上或許\n\n06:51.129 --> 06:55.679\n或許是針對車速的部分大家可以來做討論確定車速是一個很大的問題\n\n06:57.914 --> 07:13.742\n那另外我想我們屏東有茂館處茂林國家公園風景區管理處跟大鵬灣風景區管理處那過去其實我們在這個好幾個鄉鎮長都有跟我反映有沒有可能我們這兩個風景處的那個範圍裡面把周邊的鄉鎮把它納編進來他們很要讓你們服務\n\n07:23.290 --> 07:41.499\n擴大的議題其實很多縣市也都有這樣的期望那我們之前台中的霧峰區也加入了33管理處那委員也關心很多次那我們也會來討論這個議題就是說其他的地方有沒有可能加入不過有一些是特定區的問題我們來想辦法解套\n\n07:44.680 --> 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