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00:00:34,570\n好部長好那我想今天就是針對於我們的兒童安全交通安全來跟部長做一些討論就是說在1月的時候你有提到您特別關心兒少交通安全的問題所以呢你也有講到就是說兒少死亡數死亡數是比前一年同期增加三人啦增幅高達30%但是我想這應該是主要是有算到陽梅的那個\n\n3\n00:00:35,330 --> 00:00:49,703\n孩子的部分嘛對不對不過你也有特別去強調一直在跟呼籲大眾去了解就是說我們一定要好好的做好這個安全座椅一定要戴好安全帽那你也有提到說很多的一些措施像是說你也有親自介紹這個\n\n4\n00:00:51,404 --> 00:01:14,086\n針對於中低年級生出的小朋友的交通安全保衛站線上郵寄以及即將已經推出的交通安全教育懶人包希望讓交通安全觀念更向下扎根那這邊我想請教部長兩個問題第一個就是說我看了一下我們這個交通教育懶人包的這個部分目前好像只有一萬多人來看過這一篇\n\n5\n00:01:15,248 --> 00:01:23,764\n藍人包那同時呢我也看到說因為我們有一個保衛戰的遊戲那到底線上參與的人數是多少中低年級的部分\n\n6\n00:01:24,926 --> 00:01:52,253\n我們可能要再跟後台的那個資訊軟體的系統上再去問這個部分我們目前可能還不知道那大概什麼時候我們可以知道呢我們就是可能看明天明天再把資料提供給委員明天就可以提供給委員那再來就是說因為也有提到說會透過教育系統讓更多的家長跟教師群組得到這個懶人包那我想問一下現在我們已經跟教育部來聯繫要怎麼做後續的推動了嗎\n\n7\n00:01:52,933 --> 00:02:09,113\n報告委員這個兩個部分一個部分是這個您所說的這個懶人包的部分我們應該跟教育體系有聯繫了有聯繫也有拜託他們幫忙推廣那這個現在已經是推廣後了是嗎因為我現在看是有一萬多人對目前我們有拜託他們幫忙推廣\n\n8\n00:02:10,194 --> 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因為其實我昨天跟台北市的家長會長他們在辦一個座談會那大家都非常在意這個交通安全的部分所以我覺得到底我們要如何的落實因為我們可能做了很多但是我從線上看到下載的次數可能也只有850幾次那這個部分有沒有可能也拜託委員因為有一些家長團體您非常的熟悉那我們這段軟體拜託委員幫我們串接一下大家可以幫忙推廣一下\n同意但是我想我們可能還是要回到就是說我們目前的這個懶人包也好或是保衛戰也好因為都不是做第一次了那我們到底在這個過程之中有沒有更精進的一些檢討的做法呢我們目前是有安排嗎因為這也不是第一次做了嘛所以從上一次11年到113年這中間的差異是在哪裡呢\n我們有跟教育單位進行五階段的教材今年我們會啟動一個檢討聽聽站在第一線的老師在使用這個教材在目前的內容上還有沒有需要再檢討的我們現在正在規劃進行檢討的工作\n好那這個就延續到我下一個問題就是說因為其實呢我相信這都跟兒童非常分有關係我們是不是可以邀請兒童跟家長一起來檢討目前的一個手冊的內容或是活動的內容呢因為我想喔如果我們可以從兒童的角度來看的時候\n因為我都有些字我都有點不是那麼確定小朋友真的懂嗎這部分您相當的專業所以我們下次再開檢討會議的時候再拜託委員辦公室可以提供一些名單給我們有哪些人可以邀請我們一起來討論因為我想我們還是要從兒童的語言啦才能夠更讓他們落實這件事情那再下一個問題就是說其實在111年\n我們其實第二次國家兒童權利公約審查的時候呢有特別去強調說要把兒童表役權兒童參與的機制納入在我們的整個政府的體制之下但是呢在112年的時候兒少已經由兒少兒少代表他們其實說他們都可以參與啦可是常常參與了\n可能講沒幾句話就時間就可能就結束了就被否決了那所以基本上他們雖然參與了可是其實並沒有辦法對政策有實質的建言那所以這個部分呢有在六位的兒少呢依據了權力公約的第14號\n一般性意見書以及我們的第九十一點的意見書裡面提到說我們應該要能夠去參與也希望說有五個部會可以成立兒權小組那交通部就是其中一個那可是呢我們這個針對於這一個意見呢交通部的回應是說可以看綠色的字就是說依職權邀請與議題相關之團體列席那這個部分我知道的是目前找兒校團體\n但是還是沒有兒少代表那第二個部分就是說以公共政策網路參與平台目前呢我想這也是非常不適合兒少參與的一個機制所以目前還有第三個回應是說其實行政院有兒少推動小組那我也必須要跟部長報告在這個現場在這個開會的現場其實有非常多的題目所以而且他是主動是由大家來提案的所以\n不一定會針對兒童的這個交通的部分來特別的討論所以我希望部長是不是可以研議我們來辦一個兒少的這個部級的一個那個諮詢小組\n我們是不是可以來研議這個做一個佈局的兒權小組我們過去其實是針對議題啦有適合的議題我們也會找兒少代表不是只有團體兒少代表也是有過啦真的嗎因為我們找到的資料好像只有兒權團體也有兒少代表嗎兒少代表也有過也有過那未來委員在建議的這個我覺得相當的好我們針對整體的交通的議題我們是不是找兒少的代表大家一起來座談或者是\n我希望的是部長我們是不是可以把它變成是一個常態性的會議而不是可能只有針對議題上面常態性的會議常態性的一個就是一個兒權小組在交通部下面對那因為其實有非常多的議題可能都會跟兒童非常有關係包含我們過去的一些交通的不管是我們的這個四年四百億的相關的這個部分我們來研議我們來研議這部分我們來研議好不好好 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