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00:00:34,636\n辛苦了謝謝兩位今天很把握這六分鐘的時間我想我會用不同的面向來看看在未來海科重新成立的這些過程樣樣相向的這個定位我們不要遺漏了非常重要的一塊叫做人文而人文當中吳思瑤最在乎的就是文化\n\n3\n00:00:46,101 --> 00:01:05,867\n跟海科中心不能成為outside的面向就是保存跟活化水下的文資我這裡要念一段當初我們在成立海委會的時候蘇貞昌前院長說的一段話他說海洋不只帶給我們漁獲更滋養豐富我們的精神與文化\n\n4\n00:01:06,647 --> 00:01:28,815\n一個國家面對海洋的態度往往影響國家長遠的未來雖然台灣開放海洋擁抱海洋的起步較晚但是只要我們目標明確我們一定能夠成為一個真正現代化的海洋國家能為我們的疆疆孫孫留下非常豐厚的海洋資產\n\n5\n00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:46,287\n所以說呢我今天要跟兩位探討我剛剛聽了很多委員他關切的要成立國家海洋科技中心大家都看到了科技層面科技研發的量能也看到我們在國防建構安全韌性我們要國建國造我們要強化我們的海上生命線的很多巡防它需要人力物力軟體硬體的部件這都是提升海洋國家競爭力的重要面向\n\n6\n00:01:58,692 --> 00:02:27,088\n所以YES我們需要國家海洋科技中心下一頁而你們成立這個中心的兩個重要的業務任務當然在船舶實驗室的建置跟調查船的建置那目前都一個118年一個116年所以說我也都支持我也希望都能夠在預算政策法治的面向給你們很大的支持但是呢下一頁\n\n7\n00:02:28,598 --> 00:02:54,455\n我們之所以用行政法人就是鬆綁他的人事任用讓我們可以延攬更專業的人才還可以培育然後呢我們可以活化組織可以給予組織還有資金籌措更大的彈性還包括採購那是非常重要的所以我非常支持用行政法人剛剛前面有委員說用行政法人聽起來好像很多弊端好像就會規避監督並沒有\n\n8\n00:02:56,656 --> 00:03:24,375\n行政法人我們專業的立委都知道行政法人還是需要接受立法院的監督我過去在教育文化委員會文化部門是最多行政法人的因為就是要讓他專業人才的鬆綁以及組織運用的彈性所以說技術專業人才一次到位我會支持這個條例我會支持這個中心但是不要忘了重要的文化使命下一頁\n\n9\n00:03:25,636 --> 00:03:39,946\n文資局文化部的文資局跟我們海委會的國海院強強聯手在2020年就簽訂了水下文資保存的MOU陳院長您是好像剛到任是嗎\n\n10\n00:03:41,567 --> 00:04:06,455\n那之前簽署的是前院長邱永芳前院長當初文化部跟海委會強強聯手就是要跟上聯合國在2001年就已經有的全球都要做水下文資UNESCO甚至有個公約而台灣也進一步在文資法之後我們2016年就訂定了水下文資的專法\n\n11\n00:04:07,555 --> 00:04:28,129\n所以這是一個當然文化部帶頭可是新的文化保存文化再利用還有尤其水下它需要非常多的科技的support才能夠有利於去做水下文資的考古調查等等當初簽的這個MOU啊這新到任的陳院長你有什麼掌握\n\n12\n00:04:31,301 --> 00:04:58,552\n這文化工作上全部掌握全部掌握好那請問有什麼樣具體的進展因為已經簽了五年囉因為其實我們簽了五年我們持續都有跟文化局在做文字局文字局不好意思文字局持續有我們有辦理文字局的一個計畫那這個計畫裡面事實上我們現在目前針對沉船還有包括台江區域裡面的一些可能的水下的文資我們都利用我們的科技包括像那個電地組啦\n\n13\n00:04:59,352 --> 00:05:25,844\n還有包括一些雷達或一些聲納的一些系統裡面我們事實上有去探測它水下可能的一個存在的物品謝謝你的都有掌握好下一頁但都有掌握是真的嗎我希望啊因為今天如果我們在審這個條例的時候當然當中很重要的就是這個基礎調查的研究船的興建4000噸級的這一艘它當中很重要的一個功能用途就是水下文資的調查\n\n14\n00:05:27,285 --> 00:05:52,551\n那台澎的海域目前的水中目標物97筆其中20筆目標物被辨識成為具有文資的意義物六處的沉船處從江金雲一號當然從江金雲一號的發現開始建構了台灣對於水下文資的全部一個翻天覆地的一個新的時代讓我們台灣人知道說那時候是國立歷史博物館帶頭的\n\n15\n00:05:53,971 --> 00:06:17,694\n所以讓我們發現說台灣的周遭原來台澎海域有這麼豐富的水下文資從那一個將軍一號的調研考古開始我們水下文資的工作開始往前站所以今天的計畫裡頭不要忘了喔這個4000噸級的研究船的建制計畫當中很重要的是水下文資的調查也是它的重要使命喔下一頁\n\n16\n00:06:18,755 --> 00:06:36,445\n那為什麼今天我們在審這個設置條例裡頭海科中心的業務範圍六大項第七項是其他沒有提及任何一個文資的調研的協力不要漏了如果剛剛院長所說都有掌握\n\n17\n00:06:37,489 --> 00:06:57,570\n也都有合作那我們在這個設置辦法裡頭就不要讓文化成為outsider下一頁所以請支持好下一頁吳思瑤的版本我會增加一項未來的國家海洋科技營運中心設置條例第三條的業務範圍執掌會增加一個水下文資的調查協力應當沒有問題嗎\n\n18\n00:07:00,293 --> 00:07:22,409\n好不好支持我的版本然後呢長遠來講是要催生台灣催生一個國家級的水下博物館就在澎湖啊就在澎湖這一個水下博物館的計畫我不曉得現在進展到哪裡因為今天沒有文化部的人列席啊這個水下博物館的這個計畫請問院長您大概可以知說明一下嗎\n\n19\n00:07:23,564 --> 00:07:40,926\n印象中好像是在白沙啦澎湖的白沙那一塊好進展到哪裡你不能講印象中你是意料中的現在我可以說嗎這個藥物主要是屬於文化部的我知道我知道所以我今天要來就教於你就是說你們不要忘了文化的任務部部都是文化部\n\n20\n00:07:42,113 --> 00:07:44,856\n那如果文化部繼續朝因為當初是希望2040年啦時程還很久啦如果說文化部全力的我當然會對文化部門持續的倡議請你們全力來協力\n\n21\n00:08:05,095 --> 00:08:23,712\n畢竟科學的研究有助於文化資產的調研尤其水下的考古而且最新的國際文化的資產的保存也就強化文化資產的韌性都需要借助科技而且科技不只是在保存端它可以在後端的典藏\n\n22\n00:08:24,773 --> 00:08:36,415\n策展推廣的那一塊用科技的導入來協助他能夠讓更多人來親近各類的文化資產譬如說科技的導入我們的水\n\n23\n00:08:37,699 --> 00:08:52,485\n水下國家的博物館計畫我們可能是陸地的那種基地型不是一般國際做真的水下型所以必須藉助科技的研發來幫助大家可以用ARVR各種新的科技技術來體驗水下的文化資產我今天時間到了所以我提醒我提醒再提醒離島有非常強大的文化觀光的\n\n24\n00:09:02,470 --> 00:09:22,085\n優勢跟實力如果能夠建構水下文資台灣成為世界的重要國家的話發展離島的建設就不需要靠離島建設條例去替中國洗產地了所以你們有非常重要的文化使命來副主委您要補充謝謝委員的提醒我們會跟文化撥通力來合作然後往這個目標大家能夠盡快的達到這樣的目標\n\n25\n00:09:25,768 --> 00:09:31,869\n那因為那個院長您也剛到任我提醒回去review當初跟文資局的簽署的MOU我當然理解這個主責是文化部但是在一個新設組織的誕生的過程我一定要叮嚀你們文化不要成為outsider我們都要有文化思維好不好那給你們鼓勵謝謝主席謝謝大家\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n6595\t19145\t謝謝主席有請我們的副主委吳副主委跟陳院長吳副主委還有郭海韻陳院長對要專心不要分心\n21109\t34636\t辛苦了 謝謝兩位今天很把握這六分鐘的時間我想我會用不同的面向來看看在未來海科重新成立的這些過程樣樣相向的這個定位我們不要遺漏了非常重要的一塊叫做人文而人文當中吳思瑤最在乎的就是文化\n46101\t65867\t跟海科中心不能成為outside的面向就是保存跟活化水下的文資我這裡要念一段當初我們在成立海委會的時候蘇貞昌前院長說的一段話他說海洋不只帶給我們漁獲更滋養豐富我們的精神與文化\n66647\t88815\t一個國家面對海洋的態度 往往影響國家長遠的未來雖然台灣開放海洋 擁抱海洋的起步較晚但是只要我們目標明確我們一定能夠成為一個真正現代化的海洋國家能為我們的疆疆孫孫留下非常豐厚的海洋資產\n90600\t106287\t所以說呢我今天要跟兩位探討我剛剛聽了很多委員他關切的要成立國家海洋科技中心大家都看到了科技層面科技研發的量能也看到我們在國防建構安全韌性我們要國建國造我們要強化我們的海上生命線的很多巡防它需要人力物力軟體硬體的部件這都是提升海洋國家競爭力的重要面向\n118692\t147088\t所以 YES 我們需要國家海洋科技中心 下一頁而你們成立這個中心的兩個重要的業務 任務當然在船舶實驗室的建置跟調查船的建置那目前都一個118年 一個116年所以說我也都支持我也希望都能夠在預算 政策 法治的面向給你們很大的支持但是呢 下一頁\n148598\t174455\t我們之所以用行政法人就是鬆綁他的人事任用讓我們可以延攬更專業的人才還可以培育然後呢我們可以活化組織可以給予組織還有資金籌措更大的彈性還包括採購那是非常重要的所以我非常支持用行政法人剛剛前面有委員說用行政法人聽起來好像很多弊端好像就會規避監督並沒有\n176656\t204375\t行政法人我們專業的立委都知道行政法人還是需要接受立法院的監督我過去在教育文化委員會文化部門是最多行政法人的因為就是要讓他專業人才的鬆綁以及組織運用的彈性所以說技術專業人才一次到位我會支持這個條例我會支持這個中心但是不要忘了重要的文化使命下一頁\n205636\t219946\t文資局文化部的文資局跟我們海委會的國海院強強聯手在2020年就簽訂了水下文資保存的MOU陳院長您是好像剛到任是嗎\n221567\t246455\t那之前簽署的是前院長 邱永芳前院長當初文化部跟海委會強強聯手就是要跟上聯合國在2001年就已經有的全球都要做水下文資UNESCO甚至有個公約而台灣也進一步在文資法之後我們2016年就訂定了水下文資的專法\n247555\t268129\t所以這是一個 當然文化部帶頭 可是新的文化保存 文化再利用還有 尤其水下 它需要非常多的科技的support才能夠有利於去做水下文資的考古調查等等當初簽的這個MOU啊 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01:28.815\n一個國家面對海洋的態度往往影響國家長遠的未來雖然台灣開放海洋擁抱海洋的起步較晚但是只要我們目標明確我們一定能夠成為一個真正現代化的海洋國家能為我們的疆疆孫孫留下非常豐厚的海洋資產\n\n01:30.600 --> 01:46.287\n所以說呢我今天要跟兩位探討我剛剛聽了很多委員他關切的要成立國家海洋科技中心大家都看到了科技層面科技研發的量能也看到我們在國防建構安全韌性我們要國建國造我們要強化我們的海上生命線的很多巡防它需要人力物力軟體硬體的部件這都是提升海洋國家競爭力的重要面向\n\n01:58.692 --> 02:27.088\n所以YES我們需要國家海洋科技中心下一頁而你們成立這個中心的兩個重要的業務任務當然在船舶實驗室的建置跟調查船的建置那目前都一個118年一個116年所以說我也都支持我也希望都能夠在預算政策法治的面向給你們很大的支持但是呢下一頁\n\n02:28.598 --> 02:54.455\n我們之所以用行政法人就是鬆綁他的人事任用讓我們可以延攬更專業的人才還可以培育然後呢我們可以活化組織可以給予組織還有資金籌措更大的彈性還包括採購那是非常重要的所以我非常支持用行政法人剛剛前面有委員說用行政法人聽起來好像很多弊端好像就會規避監督並沒有\n\n02:56.656 --> 03:24.375\n行政法人我們專業的立委都知道行政法人還是需要接受立法院的監督我過去在教育文化委員會文化部門是最多行政法人的因為就是要讓他專業人才的鬆綁以及組織運用的彈性所以說技術專業人才一次到位我會支持這個條例我會支持這個中心但是不要忘了重要的文化使命下一頁\n\n03:25.636 --> 03:39.946\n文資局文化部的文資局跟我們海委會的國海院強強聯手在2020年就簽訂了水下文資保存的MOU陳院長您是好像剛到任是嗎\n\n03:41.567 --> 04:06.455\n那之前簽署的是前院長邱永芳前院長當初文化部跟海委會強強聯手就是要跟上聯合國在2001年就已經有的全球都要做水下文資UNESCO甚至有個公約而台灣也進一步在文資法之後我們2016年就訂定了水下文資的專法\n\n04:07.555 --> 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