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00:02:32,078\n所以小目標的偷渡尤其是高度的扣合者軍演每一次的軍演過去的四次的軍演每一次的軍演在當天的早上或者是前一天的晚上等等都有小目標的偷渡進來所以那個高度的扣合我們也在密注另外是好謝謝所以非常辛苦所以剛剛局主委也回答到舉例不完\n\n8\n00:02:32,698 --> 00:02:49,666\n對所以主委現在也講到我剛剛下一個問題所以現在不管大陸的灰色地帶行動其實我認為海巡跟海委會其實很認真不管在情報蒐集巡邏部署跟跨部會協調部分都非常的辛苦那我請教這個主委的部分那我們現在\n\n9\n00:02:50,726 --> 00:03:06,318\n面臨到這樣的情況我們有沒有想說如何加強跟其他國家比如說日本或美國在我們台灣的海域安全方面的共同的合作共同來因應現在目前大陸在我們台灣海域這樣的擴張行為\n\n10\n00:03:08,659 --> 00:03:37,837\n跟委員報告我們跟周邊國家確實有很多多邊的合作那這些多邊的合作就是容我請委員諒解就是說我們會跟委員的辦公室來討論一下公開我們可能就不適合原則上就是說整個印太地區共同的利益這個區域的和平是大家共同的利益另外我們也非常的加重在\n\n11\n00:03:38,577 --> 00:04:05,685\n人民的福祉的創造也就是救生救難方面所以無論是國家安全或者是人民的保障這個部分我們都有多邊的合作是好那我請教主委最近一個新聞我相信也是很多人所關注的就是有個新聞是說因為現在很多大陸相關的一些擴張行為包含有大陸的漁船或會掛台灣的這個這個AIS就是識別的系統來去讓這個\n\n12\n00:04:08,006 --> 00:04:25,200\n我們的海巡比較難去做一些的識別那剛剛您在報告的時候我好像有聽到不知道是不是您口誤那是不是有台灣的漁船會掛中國的AIS那它的目的為何這個是我剛有聽到這一段是我不知道沒有寫在報告裡面是是真的嗎\n\n13\n00:04:25,980 --> 00:04:38,049\n這是一個事實,我們確實是有查獲到台灣的漁船掛中國船舶的假名他的目的為何?應該是在大陸的海域捕魚,或許對他們來講有所方便\n\n14\n00:04:45,074 --> 00:05:09,499\n但是我們現在遇到的困擾是說相關於在AIS上面的引力或者是詐騙吧它的這種訛詐就是在使用AIS上面的訛詐這個部分我們還必須去修傳播法才會有罰則我瞭解所以現在是無法可管的部分嗎\n\n15\n00:05:10,679 --> 00:05:34,520\n呃我們在在相關的管理上面我們當然會有指引會有各種的管理齁但是罰則的部分我們還需要再再好那這邊我也希望主委我們盡快提出相關的呃這個是屬於交通部門所以我們跟航港局已經有表達而且雙方也都有有過會議在討論那草案也已經有了目前在呃行政院內部的審議程序之中好謝謝主委\n\n16\n00:05:35,421 --> 00:05:59,733\n好那希望說這個相關如果有這樣的情況我相信也是勿往勿中應該有相關的法令來處理這樣的事情那再接下來我請教就是其實我們非常關心海巡這個相關弟兄他們的裝備那之前監察院的調查報告有顯示這個海巡署在之前我們講的比如說驚嚇事件或無人機的採購上有一些採購跟使用上的一個缺失\n\n17\n00:06:00,473 --> 00:06:07,860\n那我想請教現在主委的部分就我所了解之前像這個驚嚇事件的密錄器之前有一些說\n\n18\n00:06:09,369 --> 00:06:35,904\n密錄器不足的用手持的一些部分的問題好像已經有改善蠻多的那我想要請教接下來就是說因為海巡的人員非常辛苦所以未來執行的部分可能會使用類似無人機的一些的方式來去增強這個海巡人員在執行上面的一些方便性那可是之前的新聞有顯示說有些無人機的部分好像採購的部分其實是沒有辦法因應我們這個台灣海域的有些東北季風的所謂的影響\n\n19\n00:06:36,904 --> 00:06:56,944\n會造成我們的一些無人機的一些損傷的部分那我想要請教主委針對無人機不管是在使用人員有沒有人可以操作跟我們現在無人機的一些整個品質的方面有沒有一些精進的報告或是你們現在做的情況為如何或者說你們未來有沒有考慮要擴大無人機的使用範圍\n\n20\n00:06:59,583 --> 00:07:19,682\n增加空中的量能是下一個階段海巡發展也是一個重點我剛剛有報告海空一體的中長期計畫裡面確實我們會希望能夠部署無人機過去海巡算是我們國家政府的內部最早採用導入無人機科技的一個機關\n\n21\n00:07:20,743 --> 00:07:47,738\n所以它在導入的初期都是第一階段的嘗試因此監察院當時對我們會有一些糾正是因為大家都是初期的經驗這是第一點第二點就是無人機基本上它分很多種類型那其中耐浪性比較不足的這一些的類型呢我們目前當然也有那現在有沒有統整就是說我記得我們現在海巡大概現在還有大概有幾台的無人機\n\n22\n00:07:48,898 --> 00:08:11,491\n20台無人機嘛那現在有沒有幾台統整出來說哪一些是不耐這些強風的哪一些未來還要再繼續就是還可以耐強風可以來支持未來我們會增加不同型態的機型好那就拜託說看說會後是不是可以提供個報告讓我們委員知道說我們現在無人機未來在海巡的這些發展上我們會希望\n\n23\n00:08:12,692 --> 00:08:34,390\n因為中台移棄環還沒有被核定所以我們大概就是一個蓋瓜的方向好不好好那最後一個問題實際的關係那其實最重要的就是海委會跟海巡對我們台灣的這個沿岸的防治機制有沒有一些具體的改善措施因為大家最近都知道看到新聞說大陸這個漁船有越界捕魚的情況\n\n24\n00:08:35,191 --> 00:08:50,449\n甚至這個有海警船在我們金門海域活動那我覺得讓這個我們台灣人民感覺到最之前最震驚的一個新聞事件就是有這個中國籍的男子闖入淡水港的事件那當時是就新聞報導\n\n25\n00:08:51,870 --> 00:09:17,624\n所述就是說因為當時沒有就是說有發現可是不知道這個船是大陸的漁船然後讓這個男子中國型男子有闖入我們淡水港的事件那後續整個我目前看到新聞還有會所詢問好像這個的防堵機制有沒有一個更完整的一些防堵機制是不是可以諸位\n\n26\n00:09:18,224 --> 00:09:33,230\n各位委員報告就是說淡水河這個是人為的疏失但是那個疏失是出在那個判斷就是以當時是白天然後直衝而入然後他們從這個整個判斷上把它判斷成是我們的漁船回來沒錯沒錯所以就是說判斷的問題嘛\n\n27\n00:09:34,210 --> 00:09:56,198\n但是有的部分它是因為裝備設備的不足但是我剛有報告過你看我們四次軍演每一次的軍演配合的小目標偷渡我們都抓到其實很多抓到的並沒有揭露出來基本上我們海巡在這個部分的防守是值得人民\n\n28\n00:09:56,858 --> 00:10:23,708\n信賴所以是說主委我想要說的是過去從人為判斷是有沒有改變的一些方式是不是可以在這邊稍微跟民眾說明一下第一個我們在案記我們在案記的監測的部分我們有加強未來也會更加強那未來加強的部分會需要一點時間但是單獨的個別的熱點的加強的部分我們陸續有在做會比較快好謝謝主委那大家辛苦了謝謝\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n305\t6930\t好謝謝主席各位委員各位官員大家早是有請那個海委會管閉營主委好請管主委\n11940\t40665\t委員好主委好主委辛苦了首先本席在這邊也代表立法院代表我自己非常感謝我們這個海委會海巡同仁的辛苦跟辛勞那依據這個海委會今天的業務報告第二頁中國大陸的公務船舶軍艦常態性的在我國台灣的周邊海域活動頻繁的進行軍演以及灰色地帶的行動那本席想要請教這個主委的部分\n41710\t66909\t現在就最近的新聞顯示這個大陸的這個不管是軍艦或是船舶基本上都有靠近我們台灣的這個海域24海里那我想要請教我們海巡海委會這邊的想法是說現在是不是很多的這個軍艦都會靠著我們的24海里這邊周邊來去做海警船海警船海警船海警船然後那是不是有些漁船船舶會進到我們的24海里\n72313\t86038\t我們都在驅離,去年驅離1600多艘次是,那我的意思是說他們現在除了這樣子類似有點軍事演習跟這些公務的傳播的巡弋以外是不是還有在做其他的灰色地帶的形式的\n88419\t110815\t謝謝委員跟委員報告除了軍演以外那另外就是平常除了海警船其實各類的公務船也都有襲擾的行動包括他們的海事的船舶另外是科研船尤其是科研船的評次也非常的高甚至於有一些比較機敏的拖船那另外跟委員報告我們也掌握了某種程度也掌握了他們的民兵船的活動\n112797\t128386\t所以我们对于这些船舶的掌握其实是非常的复杂非常的庞杂那另外就是说我们目前高度密注的是小目标的偷渡的背后因为他们几乎就是一个模组了\n128846\t152078\t所以小目標的偷渡尤其是高度的扣合者軍演每一次的軍演過去的四次的軍演每一次的軍演在當天的早上或者是前一天的晚上等等都有小目標的偷渡進來所以那個高度的扣合我們也在密注另外是好謝謝所以非常辛苦所以剛剛局主委也回答到舉例不完\n152698\t169666\t對所以主委現在也講到我剛剛下一個問題所以現在不管大陸的灰色地帶行動其實我認為海巡跟海委會其實很認真不管在情報蒐集巡邏部署跟跨部會協調部分都非常的辛苦那我請教這個主委的部分那我們現在\n170726\t186318\t面臨到這樣的情況我們有沒有想說如何加強跟其他國家比如說日本或美國在我們台灣的海域安全方面的共同的合作共同來因應現在目前大陸在我們台灣海域這樣的擴張行為\n188659\t217837\t跟委員報告我們跟周邊國家確實有很多多邊的合作那這些多邊的合作就是容我請委員諒解就是說我們會跟委員的辦公室來討論一下公開我們可能就不適合原則上就是說整個印太地區共同的利益這個區域的和平是大家共同的利益另外我們也非常的加重在\n218577\t245685\t人民的福祉的創造也就是救生救難方面所以無論是國家安全或者是人民的保障這個部分我們都有多邊的合作是好那我請教主委最近一個新聞我相信也是很多人所關注的就是有個新聞是說因為現在很多大陸相關的一些擴張行為包含有大陸的漁船或會掛台灣的這個這個AIS就是識別的系統來去讓這個\n248006\t265200\t我們的海巡比較難去做一些的識別那剛剛您在報告的時候我好像有聽到不知道是不是您口誤那是不是有台灣的漁船會掛中國的AIS那它的目的為何這個是我剛有聽到這一段是我不知道沒有寫在報告裡面是是真的嗎\n265980\t278049\t這是一個事實,我們確實是有查獲到台灣的漁船掛中國船舶的假名他的目的為何?應該是在大陸的海域捕魚,或許對他們來講有所方便\n285074\t309499\t但是我們現在遇到的困擾是說相關於在AIS上面的引力或者是詐騙吧它的這種訛詐就是在使用AIS上面的訛詐這個部分我們還必須去修傳播法才會有罰則我瞭解 所以現在是無法可管的部分嗎\n310679\t334520\t呃我們在在相關的管理上面我們當然會有指引會有各種的管理齁但是罰則的部分我們還需要再再好那這邊我也希望主委我們盡快提出相關的呃這個是屬於交通部門所以我們跟航港局已經有表達而且雙方也都有有過會議在討論那草案也已經有了目前在呃行政院內部的審議程序之中好謝謝主委\n335421\t359733\t好那希望說這個相關如果有這樣的情況我相信也是勿往勿中應該有相關的法令來處理這樣的事情那再接下來我請教就是其實我們非常關心海巡這個相關弟兄他們的裝備那之前監察院的調查報告有顯示這個海巡署在之前我們講的比如說驚嚇事件或無人機的採購上有一些採購跟使用上的一個缺失\n360473\t367860\t那我想請教現在主委的部分就我所了解之前像這個驚嚇事件的密錄器之前有一些說\n369369\t395904\t密錄器不足的用手持的一些部分的問題好像已經有改善蠻多的那我想要請教接下來就是說因為海巡的人員非常辛苦所以未來執行的部分可能會使用類似無人機的一些的方式來去增強這個海巡人員在執行上面的一些方便性那可是之前的新聞有顯示說有些無人機的部分好像採購的部分其實是沒有辦法因應我們這個台灣海域的有些東北季風的所謂的影響\n396904\t416944\t會造成我們的一些無人機的一些損傷的部分那我想要請教主委針對無人機不管是在使用人員有沒有人可以操作跟我們現在無人機的一些整個品質的方面有沒有一些精進的報告或是你們現在做的情況為如何或者說你們未來有沒有考慮要擴大無人機的使用範圍\n419583\t439682\t增加空中的量能是下一個階段海巡發展也是一個重點我剛剛有報告海空一體的中長期計畫裡面確實我們會希望能夠部署無人機過去海巡算是我們國家政府的內部最早採用導入無人機科技的一個機關\n440743\t467738\t所以它在導入的初期都是第一階段的嘗試因此監察院當時對我們會有一些糾正是因為大家都是初期的經驗這是第一點第二點就是無人機基本上它分很多種類型那其中耐浪性比較不足的這一些的類型呢我們目前當然也有那現在有沒有統整就是說我記得我們現在海巡大概現在還有大概有幾台的無人機\n468898\t491491\t20台無人機嘛那現在有沒有幾台統整出來說哪一些是不耐這些強風的哪一些未來還要再繼續就是還可以耐強風可以來支持未來我們會增加不同型態的機型好那就拜託說看說會後是不是可以提供個報告讓我們委員知道說我們現在無人機未來在海巡的這些發展上我們會希望\n492692\t514390\t因為中台移棄環還沒有被核定所以我們大概就是一個蓋瓜的方向好不好好那最後一個問題實際的關係那其實最重要的就是海委會跟海巡對我們台灣的這個沿岸的防治機制有沒有一些具體的改善措施因為大家最近都知道看到新聞說大陸這個漁船有越界捕魚的情況\n515191\t530449\t甚至這個有海警船在我們金門海域活動那我覺得讓這個我們台灣人民感覺到最之前最震驚的一個新聞事件就是有這個中國籍的男子闖入淡水港的事件那當時是就新聞報導\n531870\t557624\t所述就是說因為當時沒有就是說有發現可是不知道這個船是大陸的漁船然後讓這個男子中國型男子有闖入我們淡水港的事件那後續整個我目前看到新聞還有會所詢問好像這個的防堵機制有沒有一個更完整的一些防堵機制是不是可以諸位\n558224\t573230\t各位委員報告就是說淡水河這個是人為的疏失但是那個疏失是出在那個判斷就是以當時是白天然後直衝而入然後他們從這個整個判斷上把它判斷成是我們的漁船回來沒錯沒錯所以就是說判斷的問題嘛\n574210\t596198\t但是有的部分它是因為裝備設備的不足但是我剛有報告過你看我們四次軍演每一次的軍演配合的小目標偷渡我們都抓到其實很多抓到的並沒有揭露出來基本上我們海巡在這個部分的防守是值得人民\n596858\t623708\t信賴所以是說主委我想要說的是過去從人為判斷是有沒有改變的一些方式是不是可以在這邊稍微跟民眾說明一下第一個我們在案記我們在案記的監測的部分我們有加強未來也會更加強那未來加強的部分會需要一點時間但是單獨的個別的熱點的加強的部分我們陸續有在做會比較快好謝謝主委那大家辛苦了謝謝\n","txt":"好謝謝主席各位委員各位官員大家早是有請那個海委會管閉營主委好請管主委\n委員好主委好主委辛苦了首先本席在這邊也代表立法院代表我自己非常感謝我們這個海委會海巡同仁的辛苦跟辛勞那依據這個海委會今天的業務報告第二頁中國大陸的公務船舶軍艦常態性的在我國台灣的周邊海域活動頻繁的進行軍演以及灰色地帶的行動那本席想要請教這個主委的部分\n現在就最近的新聞顯示這個大陸的這個不管是軍艦或是船舶基本上都有靠近我們台灣的這個海域24海里那我想要請教我們海巡海委會這邊的想法是說現在是不是很多的這個軍艦都會靠著我們的24海里這邊周邊來去做海警船海警船海警船海警船然後那是不是有些漁船船舶會進到我們的24海里\n我們都在驅離,去年驅離1600多艘次是,那我的意思是說他們現在除了這樣子類似有點軍事演習跟這些公務的傳播的巡弋以外是不是還有在做其他的灰色地帶的形式的\n謝謝委員跟委員報告除了軍演以外那另外就是平常除了海警船其實各類的公務船也都有襲擾的行動包括他們的海事的船舶另外是科研船尤其是科研船的評次也非常的高甚至於有一些比較機敏的拖船那另外跟委員報告我們也掌握了某種程度也掌握了他們的民兵船的活動\n所以我们对于这些船舶的掌握其实是非常的复杂非常的庞杂那另外就是说我们目前高度密注的是小目标的偷渡的背后因为他们几乎就是一个模组了\n所以小目標的偷渡尤其是高度的扣合者軍演每一次的軍演過去的四次的軍演每一次的軍演在當天的早上或者是前一天的晚上等等都有小目標的偷渡進來所以那個高度的扣合我們也在密注另外是好謝謝所以非常辛苦所以剛剛局主委也回答到舉例不完\n對所以主委現在也講到我剛剛下一個問題所以現在不管大陸的灰色地帶行動其實我認為海巡跟海委會其實很認真不管在情報蒐集巡邏部署跟跨部會協調部分都非常的辛苦那我請教這個主委的部分那我們現在\n面臨到這樣的情況我們有沒有想說如何加強跟其他國家比如說日本或美國在我們台灣的海域安全方面的共同的合作共同來因應現在目前大陸在我們台灣海域這樣的擴張行為\n跟委員報告我們跟周邊國家確實有很多多邊的合作那這些多邊的合作就是容我請委員諒解就是說我們會跟委員的辦公室來討論一下公開我們可能就不適合原則上就是說整個印太地區共同的利益這個區域的和平是大家共同的利益另外我們也非常的加重在\n人民的福祉的創造也就是救生救難方面所以無論是國家安全或者是人民的保障這個部分我們都有多邊的合作是好那我請教主委最近一個新聞我相信也是很多人所關注的就是有個新聞是說因為現在很多大陸相關的一些擴張行為包含有大陸的漁船或會掛台灣的這個這個AIS就是識別的系統來去讓這個\n我們的海巡比較難去做一些的識別那剛剛您在報告的時候我好像有聽到不知道是不是您口誤那是不是有台灣的漁船會掛中國的AIS那它的目的為何這個是我剛有聽到這一段是我不知道沒有寫在報告裡面是是真的嗎\n這是一個事實,我們確實是有查獲到台灣的漁船掛中國船舶的假名他的目的為何?應該是在大陸的海域捕魚,或許對他們來講有所方便\n但是我們現在遇到的困擾是說相關於在AIS上面的引力或者是詐騙吧它的這種訛詐就是在使用AIS上面的訛詐這個部分我們還必須去修傳播法才會有罰則我瞭解 所以現在是無法可管的部分嗎\n呃我們在在相關的管理上面我們當然會有指引會有各種的管理齁但是罰則的部分我們還需要再再好那這邊我也希望主委我們盡快提出相關的呃這個是屬於交通部門所以我們跟航港局已經有表達而且雙方也都有有過會議在討論那草案也已經有了目前在呃行政院內部的審議程序之中好謝謝主委\n好那希望說這個相關如果有這樣的情況我相信也是勿往勿中應該有相關的法令來處理這樣的事情那再接下來我請教就是其實我們非常關心海巡這個相關弟兄他們的裝備那之前監察院的調查報告有顯示這個海巡署在之前我們講的比如說驚嚇事件或無人機的採購上有一些採購跟使用上的一個缺失\n那我想請教現在主委的部分就我所了解之前像這個驚嚇事件的密錄器之前有一些說\n密錄器不足的用手持的一些部分的問題好像已經有改善蠻多的那我想要請教接下來就是說因為海巡的人員非常辛苦所以未來執行的部分可能會使用類似無人機的一些的方式來去增強這個海巡人員在執行上面的一些方便性那可是之前的新聞有顯示說有些無人機的部分好像採購的部分其實是沒有辦法因應我們這個台灣海域的有些東北季風的所謂的影響\n會造成我們的一些無人機的一些損傷的部分那我想要請教主委針對無人機不管是在使用人員有沒有人可以操作跟我們現在無人機的一些整個品質的方面有沒有一些精進的報告或是你們現在做的情況為如何或者說你們未來有沒有考慮要擴大無人機的使用範圍\n增加空中的量能是下一個階段海巡發展也是一個重點我剛剛有報告海空一體的中長期計畫裡面確實我們會希望能夠部署無人機過去海巡算是我們國家政府的內部最早採用導入無人機科技的一個機關\n所以它在導入的初期都是第一階段的嘗試因此監察院當時對我們會有一些糾正是因為大家都是初期的經驗這是第一點第二點就是無人機基本上它分很多種類型那其中耐浪性比較不足的這一些的類型呢我們目前當然也有那現在有沒有統整就是說我記得我們現在海巡大概現在還有大概有幾台的無人機\n20台無人機嘛那現在有沒有幾台統整出來說哪一些是不耐這些強風的哪一些未來還要再繼續就是還可以耐強風可以來支持未來我們會增加不同型態的機型好那就拜託說看說會後是不是可以提供個報告讓我們委員知道說我們現在無人機未來在海巡的這些發展上我們會希望\n因為中台移棄環還沒有被核定所以我們大概就是一個蓋瓜的方向好不好好那最後一個問題實際的關係那其實最重要的就是海委會跟海巡對我們台灣的這個沿岸的防治機制有沒有一些具體的改善措施因為大家最近都知道看到新聞說大陸這個漁船有越界捕魚的情況\n甚至這個有海警船在我們金門海域活動那我覺得讓這個我們台灣人民感覺到最之前最震驚的一個新聞事件就是有這個中國籍的男子闖入淡水港的事件那當時是就新聞報導\n所述就是說因為當時沒有就是說有發現可是不知道這個船是大陸的漁船然後讓這個男子中國型男子有闖入我們淡水港的事件那後續整個我目前看到新聞還有會所詢問好像這個的防堵機制有沒有一個更完整的一些防堵機制是不是可以諸位\n各位委員報告就是說淡水河這個是人為的疏失但是那個疏失是出在那個判斷就是以當時是白天然後直衝而入然後他們從這個整個判斷上把它判斷成是我們的漁船回來沒錯沒錯所以就是說判斷的問題嘛\n但是有的部分它是因為裝備設備的不足但是我剛有報告過你看我們四次軍演每一次的軍演配合的小目標偷渡我們都抓到其實很多抓到的並沒有揭露出來基本上我們海巡在這個部分的防守是值得人民\n信賴所以是說主委我想要說的是過去從人為判斷是有沒有改變的一些方式是不是可以在這邊稍微跟民眾說明一下第一個我們在案記我們在案記的監測的部分我們有加強未來也會更加強那未來加強的部分會需要一點時間但是單獨的個別的熱點的加強的部分我們陸續有在做會比較快好謝謝主委那大家辛苦了謝謝\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:00.305 --> 00:06.930\n好謝謝主席各位委員各位官員大家早是有請那個海委會管閉營主委好請管主委\n\n00:11.940 --> 00:40.665\n委員好主委好主委辛苦了首先本席在這邊也代表立法院代表我自己非常感謝我們這個海委會海巡同仁的辛苦跟辛勞那依據這個海委會今天的業務報告第二頁中國大陸的公務船舶軍艦常態性的在我國台灣的周邊海域活動頻繁的進行軍演以及灰色地帶的行動那本席想要請教這個主委的部分\n\n00:41.710 --> 01:06.909\n現在就最近的新聞顯示這個大陸的這個不管是軍艦或是船舶基本上都有靠近我們台灣的這個海域24海里那我想要請教我們海巡海委會這邊的想法是說現在是不是很多的這個軍艦都會靠著我們的24海里這邊周邊來去做海警船海警船海警船海警船然後那是不是有些漁船船舶會進到我們的24海里\n\n01:12.313 --> 01:26.038\n我們都在驅離,去年驅離1600多艘次是,那我的意思是說他們現在除了這樣子類似有點軍事演習跟這些公務的傳播的巡弋以外是不是還有在做其他的灰色地帶的形式的\n\n01:28.419 --> 01:50.815\n謝謝委員跟委員報告除了軍演以外那另外就是平常除了海警船其實各類的公務船也都有襲擾的行動包括他們的海事的船舶另外是科研船尤其是科研船的評次也非常的高甚至於有一些比較機敏的拖船那另外跟委員報告我們也掌握了某種程度也掌握了他們的民兵船的活動\n\n01:52.797 --> 02:08.386\n所以我们对于这些船舶的掌握其实是非常的复杂非常的庞杂那另外就是说我们目前高度密注的是小目标的偷渡的背后因为他们几乎就是一个模组了\n\n02:08.846 --> 02:32.078\n所以小目標的偷渡尤其是高度的扣合者軍演每一次的軍演過去的四次的軍演每一次的軍演在當天的早上或者是前一天的晚上等等都有小目標的偷渡進來所以那個高度的扣合我們也在密注另外是好謝謝所以非常辛苦所以剛剛局主委也回答到舉例不完\n\n02:32.698 --> 02:49.666\n對所以主委現在也講到我剛剛下一個問題所以現在不管大陸的灰色地帶行動其實我認為海巡跟海委會其實很認真不管在情報蒐集巡邏部署跟跨部會協調部分都非常的辛苦那我請教這個主委的部分那我們現在\n\n02:50.726 --> 03:06.318\n面臨到這樣的情況我們有沒有想說如何加強跟其他國家比如說日本或美國在我們台灣的海域安全方面的共同的合作共同來因應現在目前大陸在我們台灣海域這樣的擴張行為\n\n03:08.659 --> 03:37.837\n跟委員報告我們跟周邊國家確實有很多多邊的合作那這些多邊的合作就是容我請委員諒解就是說我們會跟委員的辦公室來討論一下公開我們可能就不適合原則上就是說整個印太地區共同的利益這個區域的和平是大家共同的利益另外我們也非常的加重在\n\n03:38.577 --> 04:05.685\n人民的福祉的創造也就是救生救難方面所以無論是國家安全或者是人民的保障這個部分我們都有多邊的合作是好那我請教主委最近一個新聞我相信也是很多人所關注的就是有個新聞是說因為現在很多大陸相關的一些擴張行為包含有大陸的漁船或會掛台灣的這個這個AIS就是識別的系統來去讓這個\n\n04:08.006 --> 04:25.200\n我們的海巡比較難去做一些的識別那剛剛您在報告的時候我好像有聽到不知道是不是您口誤那是不是有台灣的漁船會掛中國的AIS那它的目的為何這個是我剛有聽到這一段是我不知道沒有寫在報告裡面是是真的嗎\n\n04:25.980 --> 04:38.049\n這是一個事實,我們確實是有查獲到台灣的漁船掛中國船舶的假名他的目的為何?應該是在大陸的海域捕魚,或許對他們來講有所方便\n\n04:45.074 --> 05:09.499\n但是我們現在遇到的困擾是說相關於在AIS上面的引力或者是詐騙吧它的這種訛詐就是在使用AIS上面的訛詐這個部分我們還必須去修傳播法才會有罰則我瞭解所以現在是無法可管的部分嗎\n\n05:10.679 --> 05:34.520\n呃我們在在相關的管理上面我們當然會有指引會有各種的管理齁但是罰則的部分我們還需要再再好那這邊我也希望主委我們盡快提出相關的呃這個是屬於交通部門所以我們跟航港局已經有表達而且雙方也都有有過會議在討論那草案也已經有了目前在呃行政院內部的審議程序之中好謝謝主委\n\n05:35.421 --> 05:59.733\n好那希望說這個相關如果有這樣的情況我相信也是勿往勿中應該有相關的法令來處理這樣的事情那再接下來我請教就是其實我們非常關心海巡這個相關弟兄他們的裝備那之前監察院的調查報告有顯示這個海巡署在之前我們講的比如說驚嚇事件或無人機的採購上有一些採購跟使用上的一個缺失\n\n06:00.473 --> 06:07.860\n那我想請教現在主委的部分就我所了解之前像這個驚嚇事件的密錄器之前有一些說\n\n06:09.369 --> 06:35.904\n密錄器不足的用手持的一些部分的問題好像已經有改善蠻多的那我想要請教接下來就是說因為海巡的人員非常辛苦所以未來執行的部分可能會使用類似無人機的一些的方式來去增強這個海巡人員在執行上面的一些方便性那可是之前的新聞有顯示說有些無人機的部分好像採購的部分其實是沒有辦法因應我們這個台灣海域的有些東北季風的所謂的影響\n\n06:36.904 --> 06:56.944\n會造成我們的一些無人機的一些損傷的部分那我想要請教主委針對無人機不管是在使用人員有沒有人可以操作跟我們現在無人機的一些整個品質的方面有沒有一些精進的報告或是你們現在做的情況為如何或者說你們未來有沒有考慮要擴大無人機的使用範圍\n\n06:59.583 --> 07:19.682\n增加空中的量能是下一個階段海巡發展也是一個重點我剛剛有報告海空一體的中長期計畫裡面確實我們會希望能夠部署無人機過去海巡算是我們國家政府的內部最早採用導入無人機科技的一個機關\n\n07:20.743 --> 07:47.738\n所以它在導入的初期都是第一階段的嘗試因此監察院當時對我們會有一些糾正是因為大家都是初期的經驗這是第一點第二點就是無人機基本上它分很多種類型那其中耐浪性比較不足的這一些的類型呢我們目前當然也有那現在有沒有統整就是說我記得我們現在海巡大概現在還有大概有幾台的無人機\n\n07:48.898 --> 08:11.491\n20台無人機嘛那現在有沒有幾台統整出來說哪一些是不耐這些強風的哪一些未來還要再繼續就是還可以耐強風可以來支持未來我們會增加不同型態的機型好那就拜託說看說會後是不是可以提供個報告讓我們委員知道說我們現在無人機未來在海巡的這些發展上我們會希望\n\n08:12.692 --> 08:34.390\n因為中台移棄環還沒有被核定所以我們大概就是一個蓋瓜的方向好不好好那最後一個問題實際的關係那其實最重要的就是海委會跟海巡對我們台灣的這個沿岸的防治機制有沒有一些具體的改善措施因為大家最近都知道看到新聞說大陸這個漁船有越界捕魚的情況\n\n08:35.191 --> 08:50.449\n甚至這個有海警船在我們金門海域活動那我覺得讓這個我們台灣人民感覺到最之前最震驚的一個新聞事件就是有這個中國籍的男子闖入淡水港的事件那當時是就新聞報導\n\n08:51.870 --> 09:17.624\n所述就是說因為當時沒有就是說有發現可是不知道這個船是大陸的漁船然後讓這個男子中國型男子有闖入我們淡水港的事件那後續整個我目前看到新聞還有會所詢問好像這個的防堵機制有沒有一個更完整的一些防堵機制是不是可以諸位\n\n09:18.224 --> 09:33.230\n各位委員報告就是說淡水河這個是人為的疏失但是那個疏失是出在那個判斷就是以當時是白天然後直衝而入然後他們從這個整個判斷上把它判斷成是我們的漁船回來沒錯沒錯所以就是說判斷的問題嘛\n\n09:34.210 --> 09:56.198\n但是有的部分它是因為裝備設備的不足但是我剛有報告過你看我們四次軍演每一次的軍演配合的小目標偷渡我們都抓到其實很多抓到的並沒有揭露出來基本上我們海巡在這個部分的防守是值得人民\n\n09:56.858 --> 10:23.708\n信賴所以是說主委我想要說的是過去從人為判斷是有沒有改變的一些方式是不是可以在這邊稍微跟民眾說明一下第一個我們在案記我們在案記的監測的部分我們有加強未來也會更加強那未來加強的部分會需要一點時間但是單獨的個別的熱點的加強的部分我們陸續有在做會比較快好謝謝主委那大家辛苦了謝謝\n\n","segments":[{"start":0.305,"end":6.93,"text":"好謝謝主席各位委員各位官員大家早是有請那個海委會管閉營主委好請管主委"},{"start":11.94,"end":40.665,"text":"委員好主委好主委辛苦了首先本席在這邊也代表立法院代表我自己非常感謝我們這個海委會海巡同仁的辛苦跟辛勞那依據這個海委會今天的業務報告第二頁中國大陸的公務船舶軍艦常態性的在我國台灣的周邊海域活動頻繁的進行軍演以及灰色地帶的行動那本席想要請教這個主委的部分"},{"start":41.71,"end":66.909,"text":"現在就最近的新聞顯示這個大陸的這個不管是軍艦或是船舶基本上都有靠近我們台灣的這個海域24海里那我想要請教我們海巡海委會這邊的想法是說現在是不是很多的這個軍艦都會靠著我們的24海里這邊周邊來去做海警船海警船海警船海警船然後那是不是有些漁船船舶會進到我們的24海里"},{"start":72.313,"end":86.038,"text":"我們都在驅離,去年驅離1600多艘次是,那我的意思是說他們現在除了這樣子類似有點軍事演習跟這些公務的傳播的巡弋以外是不是還有在做其他的灰色地帶的形式的"},{"start":88.419,"end":110.815,"text":"謝謝委員跟委員報告除了軍演以外那另外就是平常除了海警船其實各類的公務船也都有襲擾的行動包括他們的海事的船舶另外是科研船尤其是科研船的評次也非常的高甚至於有一些比較機敏的拖船那另外跟委員報告我們也掌握了某種程度也掌握了他們的民兵船的活動"},{"start":112.797,"end":128.386,"text":"所以我们对于这些船舶的掌握其实是非常的复杂非常的庞杂那另外就是说我们目前高度密注的是小目标的偷渡的背后因为他们几乎就是一个模组了"},{"start":128.846,"end":152.078,"text":"所以小目標的偷渡尤其是高度的扣合者軍演每一次的軍演過去的四次的軍演每一次的軍演在當天的早上或者是前一天的晚上等等都有小目標的偷渡進來所以那個高度的扣合我們也在密注另外是好謝謝所以非常辛苦所以剛剛局主委也回答到舉例不完"},{"start":152.698,"end":169.666,"text":"對所以主委現在也講到我剛剛下一個問題所以現在不管大陸的灰色地帶行動其實我認為海巡跟海委會其實很認真不管在情報蒐集巡邏部署跟跨部會協調部分都非常的辛苦那我請教這個主委的部分那我們現在"},{"start":170.726,"end":186.318,"text":"面臨到這樣的情況我們有沒有想說如何加強跟其他國家比如說日本或美國在我們台灣的海域安全方面的共同的合作共同來因應現在目前大陸在我們台灣海域這樣的擴張行為"},{"start":188.659,"end":217.837,"text":"跟委員報告我們跟周邊國家確實有很多多邊的合作那這些多邊的合作就是容我請委員諒解就是說我們會跟委員的辦公室來討論一下公開我們可能就不適合原則上就是說整個印太地區共同的利益這個區域的和平是大家共同的利益另外我們也非常的加重在"},{"start":218.577,"end":245.685,"text":"人民的福祉的創造也就是救生救難方面所以無論是國家安全或者是人民的保障這個部分我們都有多邊的合作是好那我請教主委最近一個新聞我相信也是很多人所關注的就是有個新聞是說因為現在很多大陸相關的一些擴張行為包含有大陸的漁船或會掛台灣的這個這個AIS就是識別的系統來去讓這個"},{"start":248.006,"end":265.2,"text":"我們的海巡比較難去做一些的識別那剛剛您在報告的時候我好像有聽到不知道是不是您口誤那是不是有台灣的漁船會掛中國的AIS那它的目的為何這個是我剛有聽到這一段是我不知道沒有寫在報告裡面是是真的嗎"},{"start":265.98,"end":278.049,"text":"這是一個事實,我們確實是有查獲到台灣的漁船掛中國船舶的假名他的目的為何?應該是在大陸的海域捕魚,或許對他們來講有所方便"},{"start":285.074,"end":309.499,"text":"但是我們現在遇到的困擾是說相關於在AIS上面的引力或者是詐騙吧它的這種訛詐就是在使用AIS上面的訛詐這個部分我們還必須去修傳播法才會有罰則我瞭解 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