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00:02:51,635\n因此這個緊鄰海岸的這個風電不僅是對居民會造成影響我相信它還對沿海的生態會造成衝擊那尤其這個開發業者他預計是要在台東的海岸線設置將近60座由南到北將近60座的這個風力發電機我想這個一旦失去下去我們台東這最美的海藏可能就不復存在我想台東也會斷送台灣也會斷送一處這個文明國際的這個風景\n\n9\n00:02:56,360 --> 00:03:18,890\n那關於我們目前業者在台東的這個陸域封建的規劃案負責審查的機關是主要是經濟部跟環境部啦那本期其實在立法院也不斷地強表達地方的心聲那我們堅決不同意未經共識的開發案破案的環境而且要求主管機關要嚴格來審查我們目前已經有陸續獲得經濟部長跟環境部長的這個\n\n10\n00:03:23,252 --> 00:03:47,392\n表態就是他不支持陸域風電在我們東海岸的推動那根據我們經濟部能源局過去委託台灣地區風力潛能分佈模擬分析的結果我們台灣主要的風力潛能運藏區除了澎湖的離島之外主要分佈還是在西部的這個沿海地區這是它邊國的部分那以此對於我們東部的鄉親來講我們很難想像有一天風電會進駐在\n\n11\n00:03:49,741 --> 00:04:14,586\n台東可能要發展這個風電那這個對當地的環境恐怕有造成很大的這個影響不過我想除了這一次台東的風電事件之外其實在2020年的時候也有曾經業者打算在台灣的這個東北部的這個外海就是外海的北方的這個三個島嶼設置風電廠不過引起那個疑難的漁民的強烈的抗議我想這些案例都\n\n12\n00:04:15,626 --> 00:04:31,215\n看到就是代表這些風電業者已經目標將這個方向轉到東部來規劃雖然說我們海委會主管的是離岸風電我們這邊也想要請教管主委我身為我國海洋保育的主管機關的首長\n\n13\n00:04:32,136 --> 00:04:49,071\n那針對未來無分市離岸風電或者是陸域風電的開發案若是在我們全國最美麗的台東的海岸線來進行或者是會可能影響到我們珍貴的海洋生態是不是會堅持堅守我們主管機關的權責積極的傾聽我們在地的聲音\n\n14\n00:04:54,536 --> 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這是它邊國的部分那以此對於我們東部的鄉親來講我們很難想像有一天風電會進駐在\n229741\t254586\t台東可能要發展這個風電那這個對當地的環境恐怕有造成很大的這個影響不過我想除了這一次台東的風電事件之外其實在2020年的時候也有曾經業者打算在台灣的這個東北部的這個外海就是外海的北方的這個三個島嶼設置風電廠不過引起那個疑難的漁民的強烈的抗議我想這些案例都\n255626\t271215\t看到就是代表這些風電業者已經目標將這個方向轉到東部來規劃雖然說我們海委會主管的是離岸風電我們這邊也想要請教管主委我身為我國海洋保育的主管機關的首長\n272136\t289071\t那針對未來無分市離岸風電或者是陸域風電的開發案若是在我們全國最美麗的台東的海岸線來進行或者是會可能影響到我們珍貴的海洋生態是不是會堅持 堅守我們主管機關的權責積極的傾聽我們在地的聲音\n294536\t316456\t這沒有經過共識的開放破壞的環境我想也在環評的過程裡面積極的扮演這個監督的這個功能一起來守護我們台東的海洋資源這部分想要請主委來表態一下跟委員報告分三個部分第一個部分是我們今年度對台東縣政府在海洋保育方面的補助大概是1700萬\n321679\t337909\t1716萬這個是第一另外就是說我們有在地守護的計畫有在地守護團隊的話那他們依在地的聲音在地的守護的團隊如果有出來提案我們也會扶植他們所以在台東也有在地守護的團隊在\n340233\t364170\t那他主要是做那個資源調查那那另外就是說我們對於這個案其實海保署陸署長他也已經有關注到雖然他是陸域的案但是他有在關注好那我們會積極主動的關注那我想環境部也部長也有對對這個案表達他基本的態度好那基本上就如同我在報告中所說\n365151\t379576\t我們會建立以科學為基礎的生態保育所以在科學為基礎的話很重要就是要調查所以在調查的這個部分我們會主動的來關注我會主動的來做謝謝主委\n383319\t396835\t這個問題讓台東人很驚訝就是說這整個生態會造成很大的影響那我想我們一起來守護我們整個海洋資源也守護我們東部美麗的海岸線那謝謝主委這邊的謝謝主委謝謝主委謝謝主席\n","txt":"好謝謝主席我們有請還會管主委好請主委歡迎好\n主委早 主委今天是海委會的這個業務報告那本席看完了海委會的報告之後想要針對一個議題跟主委來聊聊因為這是最近台中鄉親非常關心的一個議題那在我們海委會的報告裡面有提到一個業務就是落實離岸風場生態影響評估那麼目標就是要確保離岸風場開發對於生態環境的影響降至最低\n那113年我們監管了四座離岸風電水下基礎工程包括雲林台電二起海龍二號三號風場並且與我們的環境部來合作進行七次的這個稽查包括五次的陸域檢查跟兩次的海岸海域巡查\n那由此可見我們對發展離岸風電跟生態之間的保護海委會尤其是海保署扮演的非常非常重要關鍵的角色在海保署的官網上面我們也特別提到為了海洋保育以及資源的永續利用海保署積極的參與各項各機關海洋保育案件的審查跟這個審議\n那就我們海域生態跟海域水質等提供相關的意見並且依照我們這個環境評估法環境影響評估法裡面參與的這個委員會專案小組會議還有環境監督會議參與離岸風力發電的相關的這個審議\n那為什麼不是這個地方說的這個事情我們特別挑這件事因為最近有風電的業者想要在台東的海岸線設置大型的風電機那這件事情其實引起我們當地居民很大的爭議本是要強調雖然他們目前規劃的是陸域的風電但是它的業務就在我們台東的海岸線電管所以因此跟我們這個海洋保育息息相關我們還是要關注\n是相信像主委你也非常清楚台東海岸線可以說全國是全國最美的海岸線那還有會其實這幾年其實也投入很多在做海洋保育這一塊在台東這邊那我想尤其我們整個海岸線的這海洋生態資源非常的豐富台東可以說是面對太平洋的最前線\n因此這個緊鄰海岸的這個風電不僅是對居民會造成影響我相信它還對沿海的生態會造成衝擊那尤其這個開發業者他預計是要在台東的海岸線設置將近60座由南到北將近60座的這個風力發電機我想這個一旦失去下去我們台東這最美的海藏可能就不復存在我想台東也會斷送台灣也會斷送一處這個文明國際的這個風景\n那關於我們目前業者在台東的這個陸域封建的規劃案負責審查的機關是主要是經濟部跟環境部啦那本期其實在立法院也不斷地強表達地方的心聲那我們堅決不同意未經共識的開發案破案的環境而且要求主管機關要嚴格來審查我們目前已經有陸續獲得經濟部長跟環境部長的這個\n表態就是他不支持陸域風電在我們東海岸的推動那根據我們經濟部能源局過去委託台灣地區風力潛能分佈模擬分析的結果我們台灣主要的風力潛能運藏區除了澎湖的離島之外主要分佈還是在西部的這個沿海地區 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