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00:02:12,816\n那22號會開第二次會議那另外我們在畫社這個海嵐範圍要去畫社要去公告那個靜茅區靜博區的這個部分是下禮拜會持續再來開會所以這些部分都有在精進\n\n8\n00:02:13,803 --> 00:02:41,346\n那就這部分您說到修法那在修法之前相關的資訊的取得是不是都通暢因為我們都知道之前的權宜輪或者說幽靈船他們可能需要港務單位提供必要的這些船舶資料那這些部分過去我也曾經質詢過交通部跟航港局那請問我們在跨部會的部分海委會要取得這些資訊因為在修法完成之前我們需要透過更多的資訊來掌握可能的潛在對象有沒有什麼困難\n\n9\n00:02:42,079 --> 00:02:58,976\n我們分兩個部分一個部分是說航港單位會給我們相關的資料那我們就建立黑名單那這個黑名單我們會分級有高度威脅的或低度威脅的所以這些資料的取得都沒有問題都沒有問題那另外是其實我們每天的監偵偵系統我們每天的情監偵系統我們每天都在海上看\n\n10\n00:03:04,822 --> 00:03:12,030\n所以那個海嵐的區域我們已經特別加以密駐的情況之下有一些狀況發生我們也會主動的發現我們也會去發現到說你滯留的船舶它不在黑名單內我們還是會關注會監控那剛剛講到針尖的能力\n\n11\n00:03:22,942 --> 00:03:36,881\n過去我在多次之前海委會的主委因為過去大部分都有海軍背景來擔任我也曾經形容海委會是我們的第二海軍又一是海巡署那這個過程當中它畢竟做一個和平的一個警戒力量過去我們有船有艦\n\n12\n00:03:38,303 --> 00:03:58,697\n那我也曾經詢問過在有人載具的部分航空器的部分有沒有計畫要去取得必要的航空器有人航空器來作為我們提升我們艱增能力在滯空時間跟監控上像日本的海上警視廳他們都有一個這樣的一個海巡機台灣我們海委會或海巡組有沒有打算要建置這樣的機動能力\n\n13\n00:03:59,943 --> 00:04:19,868\n我們目前當然是以無人機隊為主那到底要不要增加定義機有人機的部分沒有排除研議我們也都還有在研議之中但是是以什麼樣的機制負擔什麼樣的功能目前並還沒有定案\n\n14\n00:04:24,949 --> 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