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00:00:39,072\n現在這個問題被大家拿來質疑點就是說有一個機師過去的機師講說華航是不是有可能他是因為單引擎故障\n\n3\n00:00:40,509 --> 00:01:01,424\n那後來看到華航的聲明華航的聲明是說因為機師是質疑說華航為什麼不是直接飛往新加坡他那時候從越南到新加坡只要一個小時但是華航卻返回台灣他也多飛了總共飛三小時等於是多飛兩小時跟飛到新加坡相比\n\n4\n00:01:02,305 --> 00:01:23,377\n然後來華航的聲明並沒有否認說他可能是單引擎故障只是講他們是按照標準的作業程序而且經過專業判斷所以回到台灣來做維修我想先跟主委請教一下因為這也跟運輸安全有關啦過去有沒有類似的案例\n\n5\n00:01:24,482 --> 00:01:40,983\n就是說那個飛機飛到一半的時候忽然間可能單引擎故障或者是其他故障這個case有很多啦比如說飛機上有突發狀況啦有人生病啦我是說單引擎故障啦單引擎故障單引擎故障有啦有沒有類似案例但是\n\n6\n00:01:41,624 --> 00:01:57,392\n但是要轉向哪裡是由機師做最後決定有類似案例我們現在的法規有沒有規定說單引擎故障應該要飛往哪個機場法規有沒有規定沒有民航法沒有規定嗎沒有民航法有沒有規定說\n\n7\n00:01:58,773 --> 00:02:20,484\n當發生單引擎故障的時候應該要飛往途中的備用機場對它有備用計畫對或者是有沒有規定那你剛用說沒有它會不是它飛行計畫裡面它會填說我在某一個航點某一個位置上我的備用備用機場在哪裡它有填報民航法有沒有規定民航法有沒有規定有規定嗎主委你都不清楚\n\n8\n00:02:21,704 --> 00:02:42,734\n所以民航法有規定說如果發生單引擎故障要飛往目的地盡快飛往目的地或者是途中的備用機場有嗎他飛行機會都要救到天堂還有規定嗎有那請問一下這個華航的目的地是不是新加坡對那他在越南的時候去新加坡只要一小時但是回台灣要三小時那這樣有沒有違反民航法規定\n\n9\n00:02:46,076 --> 00:03:06,403\n報告委員跟委員報告一下就是一般來講像剛剛林主委講的在飛航途中一定會有一些不正常的情勢發生我是講引擎故障這比較危險的狀況引擎故障這樣子比較高風險的目前在國際航空公司裡面他們都會有一個標準的程序按照民航法然後其中是什麼嘛\n\n10\n00:03:07,564 --> 00:03:23,585\n是所謂的In-FlightShutdown叫空中引擎觀測那在這裡面就航空公司在現在的現行規定裡面航空公司他的聯合管制中心要中整所有的包含四項基本上四項大原則第一項就是安全\n\n11\n00:03:24,306 --> 00:03:40,012\n我知道我現在問說要飛到哪個機場不要答非所問好不好主委已經答非所問換了一個人來又答非所問所以按照規定他是要飛往新加坡還是要在附近越南的備用機場降落還是要回台灣是按照規定是哪一個謝謝\n\n12\n00:03:41,592 --> 00:03:58,146\n報委員這個要看當時情況因為今天沒有答案沒關係我繼續問那這台飛機是空中巴士嗎350那空中巴士有沒有原廠的規定空中巴士的規定單引擎故障要盡快飛往最近機場是的\n\n13\n00:03:59,113 --> 00:04:24,001\n所以如果按照民航法或者是空中巴士感覺上飛回台灣做維修都是蠻奇怪的一件事是不是現在民航局跟我們也在去對所以你們認為這個有可能因為最後是沒有事情那當然是最好是這樣可是如果萬一發生事情是不是一件算危險的事\n\n14\n00:04:24,921 --> 00:04:36,809\n所以過去我不知道說因為聽起來好像你們剛剛一開始主委說過去也有發生類似的事情可是回答好像不清不楚所以好像不是把飛航安全當一回事\n\n15\n00:04:39,223 --> 00:05:05,604\n報告委員這個在國際上除了國際航空其他的航空公司也有發生同樣的情況那他們考量除了安全以外還有旅客的舒適度譬如說如果好你講到旅客舒適度我問你啦他今天已經飛到從台灣已經飛到越南了再一個小時就到新加坡了所以一個小時他就到目的地結果你又飛回來三小時然後那你覺得對旅客而言他會希望直接飛到新加坡還是飛回台灣如果你是旅客的話\n\n16\n00:05:07,217 --> 00:05:25,422\n當然到新加坡當然嘛所以這事情聽起來都是個問題嘛這個如果有機會的話查一下跟大家講第二個我問一下運安衛因為之前有很多委員包括立法院法治局一直講說你們調查的時間太久主要是因為人力不足啦那現在你們有沒有擴充人力\n\n17\n00:05:26,952 --> 00:05:39,879\n調查案越快出來其實對於比如說事故的當事人家屬或者是後續的一些法律的問題調查報告越快出來對大家來說越能夠心安嗎那我不知道在增加人力的部分你們有什麼計畫嗎\n\n18\n00:05:42,372 --> 00:05:58,323\n我們有要準備擴充人力沒有錯但是現階段我們自己內部先做在一些點地調控總量管理但是如果說我們未來有一些新興的案子出來的時候我們確實會跟人事行政總署來爭取一波\n\n19\n00:05:59,404 --> 00:06:27,255\n所以好像你感覺沒有一個很具體的答案沒關係因為我時間關係我最後一個問題因為剛剛我也有聽別委員也有問您嘛因為你們現在是有在辦理那個先進駕駛輔助系統或電動車車輛調查所以本來你們重大事務調查的範圍是說有一二三點嘛第一點是三人以上你們會調查但是因為有加一個第三點情況特殊或新興運具應該就指的是比如電動車或是有自駕的這種嘛那有一個案例是去年六月份的時候\n\n20\n00:06:28,075 --> 00:06:48,821\n那個時候有一個這個虎尾自撞那他應該是開自動車他應該是開電動車啦那你們說這個報告很快就出來了從去年6月事故到今年2月大概半年多一點時間就公布了那這個現在你們調查報告是有發現先進駕駛輔助系統有什麼問題嗎我請公路主委來講\n\n21\n00:06:57,230 --> 00:07:19,303\n跟委員報告這個案子其實是在調查中那我們調查中去發現說這個駕駛其實是並沒有去啟動這個ADAS的一個系統是一個駕駛他自己分心操作所造成的所以你們去調查你一開始因為他是電動車所以你就會先去調查\n\n22\n00:07:20,003 --> 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