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00:03:00,306\n那蔡總統在105年8月1號向原住民族道歉的時候也特別承諾我們會加快的把這個原住民族自治法送到立法院審議但是蔡總統任內的8年並沒有提出連從原民會送到行政院都沒有\n\n7\n00:03:02,265 --> 00:03:28,934\n這個部分也是從原住民族基本法通過之後陳水扁總統任內有把原住民族自治法從嚴明會送到行政院馬英九總統任內也有跟原住民族自治相關的這些草案嚴明會送到行政院\n\n8\n00:03:29,739 --> 00:03:52,586\n行政院還把相關的這些草案送到立法院只不過是立法院後來沒有完成是很遺憾很可惜那在過去的8年現在已經9年了我們先講這個原住民族基本法94年公佈施行現在正好20年了20年了20年\n\n9\n00:03:57,985 --> 00:04:22,564\n這個前任的蘇貞昌院長,他說要分流立法既然要分流立法,原住民族自治法一步到位有困難所以有分流立法接下來我就提了這個這個跟內政部的職責有關係我們看外島,澎湖縣、金門縣、連江縣\n\n10\n00:04:25,185 --> 00:04:53,756\n都是縣他人口也不多人口面積都不多所以我曾經提出在上一屆提了這個地方制度法的修法要成立原住民族自治縣只要三萬人以上合併原住民的鄉鎮市合併之後達到人口三萬人以上\n\n11\n00:04:54,707 --> 00:05:24,228\n就是這個3萬人是根據參考什麼就是參考外島的人口數當然我們的面積絕對是比他們大絕對比他們大所以這個要成立自治線這樣的一個建議這樣的一個草案當初在上一屆沒有完成請問一下部長這個地方制度法如果我們提出草案來修正的話\n\n12\n00:05:25,733 --> 00:05:53,194\n要成立原住民族自治縣部長的意見報告委員我不是很清楚說所謂的原住民族鄉鎮市合併後之三人口達三萬人以上那他是根據什麼樣子的法源來授權的那目前在我們的地方製度法裡面或者行政區劃法裡面的並沒有這樣的法源基礎就是要修法就是要修法因為既然這個\n\n13\n00:05:55,049 --> 00:06:20,632\n以民族以民族來去成立有困難的話那是不是最起碼整個一個縣增加一個縣就好增加一個縣原住民族自治縣一個縣那個只要是跟這個當然要經過我的條文當時是這樣都要經過\n\n14\n00:06:23,271 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