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00:02:05,822\n因為針對基隆市是台灣北方的海洋門戶那文化發展不是只有地方而且基隆有經過荷蘭統治時間西班牙統治時間日本統治時間甚至最後面到現在中華民國\n\n8\n00:02:06,924 --> 00:02:28,584\n這整整的就是說所有的這些文化的元素放在裡面其實是可以很吸引人的不只代表著基隆也代表著台灣所以我那時候就覺得說OK那既然上次跟李部長在這個案子上面我們有獲得一點共識那我就想說直接來問一下延續性說後面有什麼追蹤那今天市長來如果沒有準備的話沒有準備不足沒有關係\n\n9\n00:02:31,587 --> 00:02:50,064\n如果沒準備不足沒有關係那我是希望會後不好意思因為委員事先也沒有提醒這個主題所以我們就沒有事先準備我的習慣是如果之前追到東西那我事後都會再追蹤一次只是因為今天主題剛好不是這個對話沒關係那我只是說這件事情我想未來我們應該要去追蹤追蹤看見這個事情\n\n10\n00:02:51,685 --> 00:03:07,702\n好那另外一個議題我想討論的是因為基隆是港口城市之外那部分可是老實說基隆有被人家稱為有點像是文化沙漠的意味因為我們基隆的這個基隆文化資源是屬於比較匱乏的偏鄉那\n\n11\n00:03:08,763 --> 00:03:26,964\n文化部提出來的文化平權政策有強調文化資源的普及跟多元族群文化的保存但是基隆在這方面我認為還是有待加強啦例如說基隆的原住民文化跟新住民文化是否能夠獲得更多的政策支持呢\n\n12\n00:03:28,206 --> 00:03:39,291\n跟委員回覆因為這些大概都有一些跨部門的合作存在原住民的文化也有原民會那新住民的文化也有內政部我想這些跨部會的合作跟連結這個都是我們非常樂意去嘗試的\n\n13\n00:03:40,299 --> 00:04:02,479\n我為什麼會提出來這個案子的原因是說我這邊資料上面在準備資料的時候看到根據聯合報在2023年也就是前年6月份的一篇報導基隆的原住民人口雖然不多但是他們的文化遺產卻是台灣文化多樣性的重要組成部分然而我們基隆現在原住民文化資源面臨著被忽視的危險\n\n14\n00:04:04,401 --> 00:04:23,852\n基隆的原住民文化的活動跟設施相對匱乏而且許多原住民年輕人對於自己的文化認同感逐漸薄弱那所以我還是回到說請問文化部在推動原民文化保存上面是否有具體的計畫來支持基隆的原住民社群呢\n\n15\n00:04:25,068 --> 00:04:50,928\n或者是說是否有針對原住民文化教育的資源來投入計畫呢跟委員說明我們跟園民會有一個平台會針對原住民的相關的藝文合作的事項來進行協商所以大概跟原住民議題相關的都會在那個平台裡面來共同的協議跟解決那至於就文化部本來的原本的自己部本部的政策來說不論對哪一個族群我們大概都會有各種的\n\n16\n00:04:52,089 --> 00:05:19,747\n標準一致的這一類的相關的措施那所以這個部分應該可以看到文化部在支持原民的團體或者是個人不管是展出的作品或演出上一直都不遺餘力我會希望說會後啦那其實我知道你們的態度但是我希望會後這邊有關的有關投入的資源投入計畫也好還是有未來有些比較務實的措施計畫我希望能夠說會後對針對原住民的部分我們可以撿了一份給委員\n\n17\n00:05:21,031 --> 00:05:48,943\n大概什麼時候呢大概兩週以內好嗎兩週以內嗎好謝謝我剛剛講過原住民文化之後現在我就必須提到新住民文化因為基隆的新住民人口其實是在增加這個其實大家都知道而且新住民人口一直在增加它的主要來源是來自於東南亞國家東南亞國家的文化多樣性不管是不只是文化還有宗教各方面來講對於基隆帶來很多不同\n\n18\n00:05:49,483 --> 00:06:18,958\n而且豐富的文化交流機會但是新住民面臨的文化融入問題依然是存在的許多新住民反映他們的文化空間跟資源不足這樣影響他們的生活質量之外也限制了我們基隆市能夠在做多元文化發展上面的事情所以請問文化部在這方面針對新住民的這個文化融入這方面是否有更具體的支持措施那是不是有計畫去在基隆設立更多的新住民文化交流中心呢\n\n19\n00:06:20,014 --> 00:06:43,834\n跟委員報告新住民是台灣現在非常重要的公民人口之一在全台灣新住民的量都增加的非常的快更多我想基隆並不是第一個也不是唯一的一個那所以呢對文化部來說我們的整體的政策是站在文化平權的角度上針對各種不同的族群都提供給他一樣的\n\n20\n00:06:44,414 --> 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那既然上次跟李部長在這個案子上面我們有獲得一點共識那我就想說直接來問一下延續性說後面有什麼追蹤那今天市長來如果沒有準備的話沒有準備不足沒有關係\n151587\t170064\t如果沒準備不足沒有關係那我是希望會後不好意思因為委員事先也沒有提醒這個主題所以我們就沒有事先準備我的習慣是如果之前追到東西那我事後都會再追蹤一次只是因為今天主題剛好不是這個對話沒關係那我只是說這件事情我想未來我們應該要去追蹤追蹤看見這個事情\n171685\t187702\t好那另外一個議題我想討論的是因為基隆是港口城市之外那部分可是老實說基隆有被人家稱為有點像是文化沙漠的意味因為我們基隆的這個基隆文化資源是屬於比較匱乏的偏鄉那\n188763\t206964\t文化部提出來的文化平權政策有強調文化資源的普及跟多元族群文化的保存但是基隆在這方面我認為還是有待加強啦例如說基隆的原住民文化跟新住民文化是否能夠獲得更多的政策支持呢\n208206\t219291\t跟委員回覆因為這些大概都有一些跨部門的合作存在原住民的文化也有原民會那新住民的文化也有內政部我想這些跨部會的合作跟連結這個都是我們非常樂意去嘗試的\n220299\t242479\t我為什麼會提出來這個案子的原因是說我這邊資料上面在準備資料的時候看到根據聯合報在2023年也就是前年6月份的一篇報導基隆的原住民人口雖然不多但是他們的文化遺產卻是台灣文化多樣性的重要組成部分然而我們基隆現在原住民文化資源面臨著被忽視的危險\n244401\t263852\t基隆的原住民文化的活動跟設施相對匱乏而且許多原住民年輕人對於自己的文化認同感逐漸薄弱那所以我還是回到說請問文化部在推動原民文化保存上面是否有具體的計畫來支持基隆的原住民社群呢\n265068\t290928\t或者是說是否有針對原住民文化教育的資源來投入計畫呢跟委員說明我們跟園民會有一個平台會針對原住民的相關的藝文合作的事項來進行協商所以大概跟原住民議題相關的都會在那個平台裡面來共同的協議跟解決那至於就文化部本來的原本的自己部本部的政策來說不論對哪一個族群我們大概都會有各種的\n292089\t319747\t標準一致的這一類的相關的措施那所以這個部分應該可以看到文化部在支持原民的團體或者是個人不管是展出的作品或演出上一直都不遺餘力我會希望說會後啦那其實我知道你們的態度但是我希望會後這邊有關的有關投入的資源投入計畫也好還是有未來有些比較務實的措施計畫我希望能夠說會後對 針對原住民的部分我們可以撿了一份給委員\n321031\t348943\t大概什麼時候呢大概兩週以內好嗎兩週以內嗎好 謝謝我剛剛講過原住民文化之後現在我就必須提到新住民文化因為基隆的新住民人口其實是在增加這個其實大家都知道而且新住民人口一直在增加它的主要來源是來自於東南亞國家東南亞國家的文化多樣性不管是不只是文化還有宗教各方面來講對於基隆帶來很多不同\n349483\t378958\t而且豐富的文化交流機會但是新住民面臨的文化融入問題依然是存在的許多新住民反映他們的文化空間跟資源不足這樣影響他們的生活質量之外也限制了我們基隆市能夠在做多元文化發展上面的事情所以請問文化部在這方面針對新住民的這個文化融入這方面是否有更具體的支持措施那是不是有計畫去在基隆設立更多的新住民文化交流中心呢\n380014\t403834\t跟委員報告新住民是台灣現在非常重要的公民人口之一在全台灣新住民的量都增加的非常的快更多我想基隆並不是第一個也不是唯一的一個那所以呢對文化部來說我們的整體的政策是站在文化平權的角度上針對各種不同的族群都提供給他一樣的\n404414\t429183\t參與文化體驗的機會所以我們在各個管社包括不管是地方的生活美學館也好或者是像地方的博物館也好或者是我們在以新的政策上大概都有把新住民的文化當作是我們國民文化的一部分在做處理所以在我們的推動的文化政策應該是不限區域的因為畢竟我們是中央的部會\n430663\t443881\t很多的部分是要跟地方政府的合作那在整體上來說我們是把新住民的這些文化政策融入我們所有的政策而不是用族群來區隔台灣的文化政策以上說明\n445098\t464233\t我是希望說文化不能夠重視而且繼續推動有關原住民跟新住民的文化跟保存因為這不是對於說你剛剛自己也講到說這不是只是針對尊重文化的多樣性同時之間也是促進社會和諧的促進假設因為我自己曾在國外很久很久一段時間\n465134\t485081\t那我們台灣很多政策還是很多的精神都跟美國比較都是崇尚美國的而美國自詡是一個民族大熔爐但是很可惜的這個民族大熔爐的這個精神就像是黑人白人他的國會席次於黑人白人還是說哪裡都有不同的不同的聲音在台灣現在越來越難得看得到\n485501\t508597\t那我會希望說文化部這如果說從最基本來看起的話我希望文化部在未來的政策裡面可以在這方面提供更多的資源跟支持讓基隆也要從基隆開始做起讓基隆成為一個族群融合也好還是文化的交融之地多元文化一直是文化部的政策目標我們未來也會在這個自由多元的台灣繼續推動這樣的文化價值好 謝謝\n","txt":"主席 有請次長好 請次長\n市長3月27號的時候本席在這邊詢問了李部長有關基隆港口海洋跟廟宇文化等活動資源的整合跟推廣的相關議題那到今天已經差不多也快一個月了請問目前文化部有任何的具體計畫跟方向嗎\n不好意思 因為我之前沒有準備這方面的資料可以讓我們用書面的資料來補充嗎什麼時候我會拿到呢因為我只是 這個是個很基本的follow up因為我要去確認一下是在哪一個部分進行\n因為上次文化部部長那個文化部部長來的時候他也是很贊同像這樣的作為因為我們在展的規劃上其實常常會有這一類的主題包括譬如說我隨便舉個例子我們在剛剛過去的時尚週市長我認同你可以給我書面報告只是說我個人是蠻失望說今天既然我已經講既然今天既然我這是一個follow up立行工作裡面而不會特別去整理一個報告因為我就說我們上\n沒關係我其實你不用特地去針對我講的事情來去做一直去做回應我沒有要責怪你的意思我也認同你們要麻煩給我完整的書面報告對於我基隆市未來有關廟宇海洋文化的整理但是我現在我們\n不需要在這邊直接再解釋說為什麼今天沒有那我只是說我是有很失望的因為我們還蠻常出現這類的主題老實講基隆是個海洋城市那我們也知道上次李部長在這邊聊的時候也是因為聊我認為跟李部長還有一些共識在這個議題上面\n因為針對基隆市是台灣北方的海洋門戶那文化發展不是只有地方而且基隆有經過荷蘭統治時間西班牙統治時間日本統治時間甚至最後面到現在中華民國\n這整整的 就是說所有的這些文化的元素放在裡面其實是可以很吸引人的不只代表著基隆 也代表著台灣所以我那時候就覺得說OK 那既然上次跟李部長在這個案子上面我們有獲得一點共識那我就想說直接來問一下延續性說後面有什麼追蹤那今天市長來如果沒有準備的話沒有準備不足沒有關係\n如果沒準備不足沒有關係那我是希望會後不好意思因為委員事先也沒有提醒這個主題所以我們就沒有事先準備我的習慣是如果之前追到東西那我事後都會再追蹤一次只是因為今天主題剛好不是這個對話沒關係那我只是說這件事情我想未來我們應該要去追蹤追蹤看見這個事情\n好那另外一個議題我想討論的是因為基隆是港口城市之外那部分可是老實說基隆有被人家稱為有點像是文化沙漠的意味因為我們基隆的這個基隆文化資源是屬於比較匱乏的偏鄉那\n文化部提出來的文化平權政策有強調文化資源的普及跟多元族群文化的保存但是基隆在這方面我認為還是有待加強啦例如說基隆的原住民文化跟新住民文化是否能夠獲得更多的政策支持呢\n跟委員回覆因為這些大概都有一些跨部門的合作存在原住民的文化也有原民會那新住民的文化也有內政部我想這些跨部會的合作跟連結這個都是我們非常樂意去嘗試的\n我為什麼會提出來這個案子的原因是說我這邊資料上面在準備資料的時候看到根據聯合報在2023年也就是前年6月份的一篇報導基隆的原住民人口雖然不多但是他們的文化遺產卻是台灣文化多樣性的重要組成部分然而我們基隆現在原住民文化資源面臨著被忽視的危險\n基隆的原住民文化的活動跟設施相對匱乏而且許多原住民年輕人對於自己的文化認同感逐漸薄弱那所以我還是回到說請問文化部在推動原民文化保存上面是否有具體的計畫來支持基隆的原住民社群呢\n或者是說是否有針對原住民文化教育的資源來投入計畫呢跟委員說明我們跟園民會有一個平台會針對原住民的相關的藝文合作的事項來進行協商所以大概跟原住民議題相關的都會在那個平台裡面來共同的協議跟解決那至於就文化部本來的原本的自己部本部的政策來說不論對哪一個族群我們大概都會有各種的\n標準一致的這一類的相關的措施那所以這個部分應該可以看到文化部在支持原民的團體或者是個人不管是展出的作品或演出上一直都不遺餘力我會希望說會後啦那其實我知道你們的態度但是我希望會後這邊有關的有關投入的資源投入計畫也好還是有未來有些比較務實的措施計畫我希望能夠說會後對 針對原住民的部分我們可以撿了一份給委員\n大概什麼時候呢大概兩週以內好嗎兩週以內嗎好 謝謝我剛剛講過原住民文化之後現在我就必須提到新住民文化因為基隆的新住民人口其實是在增加這個其實大家都知道而且新住民人口一直在增加它的主要來源是來自於東南亞國家東南亞國家的文化多樣性不管是不只是文化還有宗教各方面來講對於基隆帶來很多不同\n而且豐富的文化交流機會但是新住民面臨的文化融入問題依然是存在的許多新住民反映他們的文化空間跟資源不足這樣影響他們的生活質量之外也限制了我們基隆市能夠在做多元文化發展上面的事情所以請問文化部在這方面針對新住民的這個文化融入這方面是否有更具體的支持措施那是不是有計畫去在基隆設立更多的新住民文化交流中心呢\n跟委員報告新住民是台灣現在非常重要的公民人口之一在全台灣新住民的量都增加的非常的快更多我想基隆並不是第一個也不是唯一的一個那所以呢對文化部來說我們的整體的政策是站在文化平權的角度上針對各種不同的族群都提供給他一樣的\n參與文化體驗的機會所以我們在各個管社包括不管是地方的生活美學館也好或者是像地方的博物館也好或者是我們在以新的政策上大概都有把新住民的文化當作是我們國民文化的一部分在做處理所以在我們的推動的文化政策應該是不限區域的因為畢竟我們是中央的部會\n很多的部分是要跟地方政府的合作那在整體上來說我們是把新住民的這些文化政策融入我們所有的政策而不是用族群來區隔台灣的文化政策以上說明\n我是希望說文化不能夠重視而且繼續推動有關原住民跟新住民的文化跟保存因為這不是對於說你剛剛自己也講到說這不是只是針對尊重文化的多樣性同時之間也是促進社會和諧的促進假設因為我自己曾在國外很久很久一段時間\n那我們台灣很多政策還是很多的精神都跟美國比較都是崇尚美國的而美國自詡是一個民族大熔爐但是很可惜的這個民族大熔爐的這個精神就像是黑人白人他的國會席次於黑人白人還是說哪裡都有不同的不同的聲音在台灣現在越來越難得看得到\n那我會希望說文化部這如果說從最基本來看起的話我希望文化部在未來的政策裡面可以在這方面提供更多的資源跟支持讓基隆也要從基隆開始做起讓基隆成為一個族群融合也好還是文化的交融之地多元文化一直是文化部的政策目標我們未來也會在這個自由多元的台灣繼續推動這樣的文化價值好 謝謝\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:01.553 --> 00:02.917\n主席有請次長好請次長\n\n00:10.743 --> 00:30.794\n市長3月27號的時候本席在這邊詢問了李部長有關基隆港口海洋跟廟宇文化等活動資源的整合跟推廣的相關議題那到今天已經差不多也快一個月了請問目前文化部有任何的具體計畫跟方向嗎\n\n00:33.948 --> 00:48.297\n不好意思因為我之前沒有準備這方面的資料可以讓我們用書面的資料來補充嗎什麼時候我會拿到呢因為我只是這個是個很基本的followup因為我要去確認一下是在哪一個部分進行\n\n00:49.978 --> 01:15.143\n因為上次文化部部長那個文化部部長來的時候他也是很贊同像這樣的作為因為我們在展的規劃上其實常常會有這一類的主題包括譬如說我隨便舉個例子我們在剛剛過去的時尚週市長我認同你可以給我書面報告只是說我個人是蠻失望說今天既然我已經講既然今天既然我這是一個followup立行工作裡面而不會特別去整理一個報告因為我就說我們上\n\n01:15.923 --> 01:33.122\n沒關係我其實你不用特地去針對我講的事情來去做一直去做回應我沒有要責怪你的意思我也認同你們要麻煩給我完整的書面報告對於我基隆市未來有關廟宇海洋文化的整理但是我現在我們\n\n01:33.803 --> 01:49.805\n不需要在這邊直接再解釋說為什麼今天沒有那我只是說我是有很失望的因為我們還蠻常出現這類的主題老實講基隆是個海洋城市那我們也知道上次李部長在這邊聊的時候也是因為聊我認為跟李部長還有一些共識在這個議題上面\n\n01:51.027 --> 02:05.822\n因為針對基隆市是台灣北方的海洋門戶那文化發展不是只有地方而且基隆有經過荷蘭統治時間西班牙統治時間日本統治時間甚至最後面到現在中華民國\n\n02:06.924 --> 02:28.584\n這整整的就是說所有的這些文化的元素放在裡面其實是可以很吸引人的不只代表著基隆也代表著台灣所以我那時候就覺得說OK那既然上次跟李部長在這個案子上面我們有獲得一點共識那我就想說直接來問一下延續性說後面有什麼追蹤那今天市長來如果沒有準備的話沒有準備不足沒有關係\n\n02:31.587 --> 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