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{\"word\": \"員\"}], \"language\": \"zh\"}","srt":"1\n00:00:05,061 --> 00:00:24,607\n市長早市長今天我們要審查貨物稅條例那第十一條之一那有關於鼓勵民眾購買經濟部核定能源效率分級第一級第二級的這些冰箱冷氣除濕機等這些電器用品那美台給予減增貨物稅新台幣兩千\n\n2\n00:00:26,047 --> 00:00:44,478\n那是因為今年6月14日就要到期是的那為了要達到2050進行排蛋的目標並且延續民眾購買節能型家電的意願所以我們提案延長5年到119年所以請教次長產業部這邊會不會支持這項提案\n\n3\n00:00:45,603 --> 00:01:07,332\n當然我們目前已經跟基金部會商同意延長只是目前因為我們也有個行政院的版本現在目前正在行政院審查當中那我們出你的方向是說延長兩年半再加兩年所以我們也希望就是說等院版到立法院的時候我們一起可以跟委員的提案一起討論\n\n4\n00:01:08,900 --> 00:01:24,969\n兩年再加兩年半就四年半如果實質的話跟委員的提案都還有一小段差距我們是提案是希望延長五年對我知道委員的提案是五年我想簡真的這些部分是減輕民眾的負擔因為當民眾在購買選擇家電的時候會將\n\n5\n00:01:30,332 --> 00:01:52,210\n經過經濟部核定的這些節能家電作為考量的一個重要指標這樣子這個政策可以幫助政府達到淨零碳排當然也能夠提高民眾對環保意識的認知民眾在享受政府補助的時候也能夠感受到自己的行為對環境的正面影響\n\n6\n00:01:53,050 --> 00:02:08,904\n同樣隨著市場上節能家電的選擇多樣化選擇更具競爭性這也是鼓勵家電業者產業在節能技術上的創新跟發展可以形成一個良性的市場循環所以財政部這邊一定要大力的支持\n\n7\n00:02:10,785 --> 00:02:36,463\n再請教市長上星期行政院院後記者會我們大家最關心的就是川普川普總統的關稅政策其中官務署副署長有說明汽車零組件還有關稅跟貨物稅是否調降但是都是很空泛的回答我想在談判方面政府應該要聽人民的聲音很多人堅定要將汽車關稅作為談判的籌碼\n\n8\n00:02:39,185 --> 00:02:59,002\n經濟部長郭志輝卻說如果急速地驟降汽車關稅恐讓台灣汽車產業十多萬人大量失業我必須說川普的關稅政策影響的是全國的人民全世界各個產業都被影響政府應該要有所作為\n\n9\n00:03:00,143 --> 00:03:15,181\n對不對沒有行業不被影響的所以這種要做的就是幫民眾幫產業這個找解方嘛如果按照郭部長講的說那我們就雙手一攤什麼都不用做啦對不對什麼都不用有應用措施啊\n\n10\n00:03:16,799 --> 00:03:19,841\n所以我想請教次長對於郭部長這番話是不是可以解讀說政府目前沒有考量要調降汽車關稅\n\n11\n00:03:36,469 --> 00:04:02,647\n基本上其實我們行政院談判經貿談判辦公室其實都有一直在針對未來對美關稅談判的部分要考慮哪些應該可以調整或者是說應該可以提出的籌碼當然關稅跟我們的目前看到的貨物稅汽車貨物稅汽車關稅也是一個可能的因素這個部分我們財政部的立場就是我們都提供我們相關的數據\n\n12\n00:04:04,668 --> 00:04:28,459\n對啦對啦讓國行政經貿台辦公室來做調查汽機車的貨物費調降我認為是勢在必行而且現在就最好的時機啊我們之前就常常跟部長討論而且汽車機車是我們日常生活中不可或缺的它除了是代步工具之外它已經成為必需品了嘛是是剛性需求對不對那我們不是每個城市都像台北市啊\n\n13\n00:04:29,460 --> 00:04:40,933\n有捷運啊這些大眾運輸系統都能夠串連起來其他縣市並沒有辦法這樣子嘛所以汽車機車他是變成日常生活的必需品所以我想\n\n14\n00:04:42,523 --> 00:05:00,478\n我們現在課徵高額的貨物稅是不符合社會的現狀所以希望財政部能夠更加積極的態度優先處理有利於人民的政策然後給出具體的調整方案謝謝委員指教我們會往這個方向來努力\n\n15\n00:05:01,198 --> 00:05:29,354\n市長我再請教就是說民眾聽到說這個要去財政部要研擬小額包裹免稅門檻要調降到一千要降低這個門檻是不是就是說對這部分我就覺得不可思議你們的說法是說要避免稀產地那當然是要避免這個問題的發生但是根據目前的規定兩千年以下包裹半年免稅六次\n\n16\n00:05:30,673 --> 00:05:49,323\n這要怎麼稀產地啊等於是變相用稀產地之名來加稅啊小八國都是普通民眾百姓在購買的對不對而且一千塊一千塊人買多少東西隨便買現在隨便買都超過一千塊啦好都超過一千塊所以這樣的標準實在是太低了所以\n\n17\n00:05:50,023 --> 00:06:03,804\n可以說是對消費者一個過度的負擔我們要保護本地產業這是對的沒有錯但是應該要採取一個精確、正對性的措施不是說把所有的包裹都一視同仁的降低免稅門檻\n\n18\n00:06:05,246 --> 00:06:30,188\n這樣子無助解決問題反而會讓民眾認為說政府只是在找藉口加稅希望次長你們在制定政策的時候會站在民眾的立場去思考報告文聰這部分我們會基本上我們目前並沒有一個既定的方向我們還是在收集相關的意見我是希望就是說在制定政策的時候一定要考慮到民眾的一個實質需要\n\n19\n00:06:31,949 --> 00:06:50,827\n好不好我們不要為了這個其他的政治目的其他的政策操作然後呢犧牲掉民眾的權利好不好不要一味的找理由去增加民眾的負擔啦好不好好謝謝市長謝謝謝謝委員謝謝謝謝顏坤恆委員接著我們請林思敏委員那個小額包裹那個是上個禮拜那個民進黨委員\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n5061\t24607\t市長早市長今天我們要審查貨物稅條例那第十一條之一那有關於鼓勵民眾購買經濟部核定能源效率分級第一級第二級的這些冰箱冷氣除濕機等這些電器用品那美台給予減增貨物稅新台幣兩千\n26047\t44478\t那是因為今年6月14日就要到期是的那為了要達到2050進行排蛋的目標並且延續民眾購買節能型家電的意願所以我們提案延長5年到119年所以請教次長 產業部這邊會不會支持這項提案\n45603\t67332\t當然我們目前已經跟基金部會商同意延長只是目前因為我們也有個行政院的版本現在目前正在行政院審查當中那我們出你的方向是說延長兩年半再加兩年所以我們也希望就是說等院版到立法院的時候我們一起可以跟委員的提案一起討論\n68900\t84969\t兩年再加兩年半就四年半如果實質的話跟委員的提案都還有一小段差距我們是提案是希望延長五年對我知道委員的提案是五年我想簡真的這些部分是減輕民眾的負擔因為當民眾在購買選擇家電的時候會將\n90332\t112210\t經過經濟部核定的這些節能家電作為考量的一個重要指標這樣子這個政策可以幫助政府達到淨零碳排當然也能夠提高民眾對環保意識的認知民眾在享受政府補助的時候也能夠感受到自己的行為對環境的正面影響\n113050\t128904\t同樣隨著市場上節能家電的選擇多樣化選擇更具競爭性這也是鼓勵家電業者產業在節能技術上的創新跟發展可以形成一個良性的市場循環所以財政部這邊一定要大力的支持\n130785\t156463\t再請教市長上星期行政院院後記者會我們大家最關心的就是川普川普總統的關稅政策其中官務署副署長有說明汽車零組件還有關稅跟貨物稅是否調降但是都是很空泛的回答我想在談判方面政府應該要聽人民的聲音很多人堅定要將汽車關稅作為談判的籌碼\n159185\t179002\t經濟部長郭志輝 卻說如果急速地驟降汽車關稅恐讓台灣汽車產業十多萬人大量失業我必須說 川普的關稅政策影響的是全國的人民 全世界各個產業都被影響 政府應該要有所作為\n180143\t195181\t對不對 沒有行業不被影響的所以這種要做的就是幫民眾 幫產業這個找解方嘛如果按照郭部長講的說那我們就雙手一攤什麼都不用做啦對不對 什麼都不用有應用措施啊\n196799\t199841\t所以我想請教次長對於郭部長這番話是不是可以解讀說政府目前沒有考量要調降汽車關稅\n216469\t242647\t基本上其實我們行政院談判 經貿談判辦公室其實都有一直在針對未來對美關稅談判的部分要考慮哪些應該可以調整或者是說應該可以提出的籌碼當然關稅跟我們的目前看到的貨物稅 汽車貨物稅 汽車關稅也是一個可能的因素這個部分我們財政部的立場就是我們都提供我們相關的數據\n244668\t268459\t對啦 對啦讓國行政經貿台辦公室來做調查汽機車的貨物費調降我認為是勢在必行而且現在就最好的時機啊我們之前就常常跟部長討論而且汽車 機車是我們日常生活中不可或缺的它除了是代步工具之外它已經成為必需品了嘛是是剛性需求對不對那我們不是每個城市都像台北市啊\n269460\t280933\t有捷運啊這些大眾運輸系統都能夠串連起來其他縣市並沒有辦法這樣子嘛所以汽車機車他是變成日常生活的必需品所以我想\n282523\t300478\t我們現在課徵高額的貨物稅是不符合社會的現狀所以希望財政部能夠更加積極的態度優先處理有利於人民的政策然後給出具體的調整方案謝謝委員指教 我們會往這個方向來努力\n301198\t329354\t市長我再請教就是說民眾聽到說這個要去財政部要研擬小額包裹免稅門檻要調降到一千要降低這個門檻是不是就是說對這部分我就覺得不可思議你們的說法是說要避免稀產地那當然是要避免這個問題的發生但是根據目前的規定兩千年以下包裹半年免稅六次\n330673\t349323\t這要怎麼稀產地啊等於是變相用稀產地之名來加稅啊小八國都是普通民眾百姓在購買的對不對而且一千塊一千塊人買多少東西隨便買現在隨便買都超過一千塊啦好都超過一千塊所以這樣的標準實在是太低了所以\n350023\t363804\t可以說是對消費者一個過度的負擔我們要保護本地產業這是對的沒有錯但是應該要採取一個精確、正對性的措施不是說把所有的包裹都一視同仁的降低免稅門檻\n365246\t390188\t這樣子無助解決問題反而會讓民眾認為說政府只是在找藉口加稅希望次長你們在制定政策的時候會站在民眾的立場去思考報告文聰這部分我們會基本上我們目前並沒有一個既定的方向我們還是在收集相關的意見我是希望就是說在制定政策的時候一定要考慮到民眾的一個實質需要\n391949\t410827\t好不好我們不要為了這個其他的政治目的其他的政策操作然後呢犧牲掉民眾的權利好不好不要一味的找理由去增加民眾的負擔啦好不好好謝謝市長謝謝謝謝委員謝謝謝謝顏坤恆委員接著我們請林思敏委員那個小額包裹那個是上個禮拜那個民進黨委員\n","txt":"市長早市長今天我們要審查貨物稅條例那第十一條之一那有關於鼓勵民眾購買經濟部核定能源效率分級第一級第二級的這些冰箱冷氣除濕機等這些電器用品那美台給予減增貨物稅新台幣兩千\n那是因為今年6月14日就要到期是的那為了要達到2050進行排蛋的目標並且延續民眾購買節能型家電的意願所以我們提案延長5年到119年所以請教次長 產業部這邊會不會支持這項提案\n當然我們目前已經跟基金部會商同意延長只是目前因為我們也有個行政院的版本現在目前正在行政院審查當中那我們出你的方向是說延長兩年半再加兩年所以我們也希望就是說等院版到立法院的時候我們一起可以跟委員的提案一起討論\n兩年再加兩年半就四年半如果實質的話跟委員的提案都還有一小段差距我們是提案是希望延長五年對我知道委員的提案是五年我想簡真的這些部分是減輕民眾的負擔因為當民眾在購買選擇家電的時候會將\n經過經濟部核定的這些節能家電作為考量的一個重要指標這樣子這個政策可以幫助政府達到淨零碳排當然也能夠提高民眾對環保意識的認知民眾在享受政府補助的時候也能夠感受到自己的行為對環境的正面影響\n同樣隨著市場上節能家電的選擇多樣化選擇更具競爭性這也是鼓勵家電業者產業在節能技術上的創新跟發展可以形成一個良性的市場循環所以財政部這邊一定要大力的支持\n再請教市長上星期行政院院後記者會我們大家最關心的就是川普川普總統的關稅政策其中官務署副署長有說明汽車零組件還有關稅跟貨物稅是否調降但是都是很空泛的回答我想在談判方面政府應該要聽人民的聲音很多人堅定要將汽車關稅作為談判的籌碼\n經濟部長郭志輝 卻說如果急速地驟降汽車關稅恐讓台灣汽車產業十多萬人大量失業我必須說 川普的關稅政策影響的是全國的人民 全世界各個產業都被影響 政府應該要有所作為\n對不對 沒有行業不被影響的所以這種要做的就是幫民眾 幫產業這個找解方嘛如果按照郭部長講的說那我們就雙手一攤什麼都不用做啦對不對 什麼都不用有應用措施啊\n所以我想請教次長對於郭部長這番話是不是可以解讀說政府目前沒有考量要調降汽車關稅\n基本上其實我們行政院談判 經貿談判辦公室其實都有一直在針對未來對美關稅談判的部分要考慮哪些應該可以調整或者是說應該可以提出的籌碼當然關稅跟我們的目前看到的貨物稅 汽車貨物稅 汽車關稅也是一個可能的因素這個部分我們財政部的立場就是我們都提供我們相關的數據\n對啦 對啦讓國行政經貿台辦公室來做調查汽機車的貨物費調降我認為是勢在必行而且現在就最好的時機啊我們之前就常常跟部長討論而且汽車 機車是我們日常生活中不可或缺的它除了是代步工具之外它已經成為必需品了嘛是是剛性需求對不對那我們不是每個城市都像台北市啊\n有捷運啊這些大眾運輸系統都能夠串連起來其他縣市並沒有辦法這樣子嘛所以汽車機車他是變成日常生活的必需品所以我想\n我們現在課徵高額的貨物稅是不符合社會的現狀所以希望財政部能夠更加積極的態度優先處理有利於人民的政策然後給出具體的調整方案謝謝委員指教 我們會往這個方向來努力\n市長我再請教就是說民眾聽到說這個要去財政部要研擬小額包裹免稅門檻要調降到一千要降低這個門檻是不是就是說對這部分我就覺得不可思議你們的說法是說要避免稀產地那當然是要避免這個問題的發生但是根據目前的規定兩千年以下包裹半年免稅六次\n這要怎麼稀產地啊等於是變相用稀產地之名來加稅啊小八國都是普通民眾百姓在購買的對不對而且一千塊一千塊人買多少東西隨便買現在隨便買都超過一千塊啦好都超過一千塊所以這樣的標準實在是太低了所以\n可以說是對消費者一個過度的負擔我們要保護本地產業這是對的沒有錯但是應該要採取一個精確、正對性的措施不是說把所有的包裹都一視同仁的降低免稅門檻\n這樣子無助解決問題反而會讓民眾認為說政府只是在找藉口加稅希望次長你們在制定政策的時候會站在民眾的立場去思考報告文聰這部分我們會基本上我們目前並沒有一個既定的方向我們還是在收集相關的意見我是希望就是說在制定政策的時候一定要考慮到民眾的一個實質需要\n好不好我們不要為了這個其他的政治目的其他的政策操作然後呢犧牲掉民眾的權利好不好不要一味的找理由去增加民眾的負擔啦好不好好謝謝市長謝謝謝謝委員謝謝謝謝顏坤恆委員接著我們請林思敏委員那個小額包裹那個是上個禮拜那個民進黨委員\n","vtt":"WEBVTT\n\n00:05.061 --> 00:24.607\n市長早市長今天我們要審查貨物稅條例那第十一條之一那有關於鼓勵民眾購買經濟部核定能源效率分級第一級第二級的這些冰箱冷氣除濕機等這些電器用品那美台給予減增貨物稅新台幣兩千\n\n00:26.047 --> 00:44.478\n那是因為今年6月14日就要到期是的那為了要達到2050進行排蛋的目標並且延續民眾購買節能型家電的意願所以我們提案延長5年到119年所以請教次長產業部這邊會不會支持這項提案\n\n00:45.603 --> 01:07.332\n當然我們目前已經跟基金部會商同意延長只是目前因為我們也有個行政院的版本現在目前正在行政院審查當中那我們出你的方向是說延長兩年半再加兩年所以我們也希望就是說等院版到立法院的時候我們一起可以跟委員的提案一起討論\n\n01:08.900 --> 01:24.969\n兩年再加兩年半就四年半如果實質的話跟委員的提案都還有一小段差距我們是提案是希望延長五年對我知道委員的提案是五年我想簡真的這些部分是減輕民眾的負擔因為當民眾在購買選擇家電的時候會將\n\n01:30.332 --> 01:52.210\n經過經濟部核定的這些節能家電作為考量的一個重要指標這樣子這個政策可以幫助政府達到淨零碳排當然也能夠提高民眾對環保意識的認知民眾在享受政府補助的時候也能夠感受到自己的行為對環境的正面影響\n\n01:53.050 --> 02:08.904\n同樣隨著市場上節能家電的選擇多樣化選擇更具競爭性這也是鼓勵家電業者產業在節能技術上的創新跟發展可以形成一個良性的市場循環所以財政部這邊一定要大力的支持\n\n02:10.785 --> 02:36.463\n再請教市長上星期行政院院後記者會我們大家最關心的就是川普川普總統的關稅政策其中官務署副署長有說明汽車零組件還有關稅跟貨物稅是否調降但是都是很空泛的回答我想在談判方面政府應該要聽人民的聲音很多人堅定要將汽車關稅作為談判的籌碼\n\n02:39.185 --> 02:59.002\n經濟部長郭志輝卻說如果急速地驟降汽車關稅恐讓台灣汽車產業十多萬人大量失業我必須說川普的關稅政策影響的是全國的人民全世界各個產業都被影響政府應該要有所作為\n\n03:00.143 --> 03:15.181\n對不對沒有行業不被影響的所以這種要做的就是幫民眾幫產業這個找解方嘛如果按照郭部長講的說那我們就雙手一攤什麼都不用做啦對不對什麼都不用有應用措施啊\n\n03:16.799 --> 03:19.841\n所以我想請教次長對於郭部長這番話是不是可以解讀說政府目前沒有考量要調降汽車關稅\n\n03:36.469 --> 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