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00:00:08,702\n那我們中午不休息延長開會時間到這個詢答結束好謝謝蔡昭偉我們請郭部長請部長\n\n2\n00:00:18,967 --> 00:00:29,193\n委員好部長好剛剛聽到你在回答中委員的提問的時候我是善意的提醒我覺得任何的回答要做制度上的改變的時候這個真的要先了解研議\n\n3\n00:00:34,396 --> 00:00:49,748\n評估那最後有定案那才公開說啦不然像剛剛你就隨口一句然後後來才急著又要說我們考慮考慮我覺得真的建議部長是不是真的要三思而開口說出\n\n4\n00:00:51,209 --> 00:00:56,753\n我為什麼這麼說息產地這個問題我們全力支持我也曾經跟其他委員開過記者會那這個在對美談判來講是一個非常重要的一個因素那息產地的問題呢我想有很多不同的產業別他有不同的一個狀況那我自己個人對於你們現在貿易法向下所授權的關於這個息產地的一個的審查審認標準那個35%的那個\n\n5\n00:01:21,089 --> 00:01:23,890\n這個%我個人也認為應該提高那至於要提多高我建議啦經濟部真的要好好盤點各個產業裡面到底對於這個息產地的定義這個遊戲規則要定清楚讓我們的各個產業可以有所依循也比較好啦部長你同意嗎謝謝委員\n\n6\n00:01:43,655 --> 00:01:49,500\n謝謝你那第二個我就要開始來講我昨天也有找我們行政院副院長邀請他到台中跟產業界來座談那其中有一個向下大家非常關心美國高關稅這個政府談判的問題\n\n7\n00:01:58,007 --> 00:02:24,253\n那副院長也在現場說目前的談判是順利甚至在4月11號就第一次跟美國線上談判所以這個過程順利進行當中那其中我們賴總統有宣示的一個對策包括現在我們要特別預算880億裡面工業的六大面向700億裡面有一個叫做開拓多元市場這個部分部長應該知道吧\n\n8\n00:02:24,873 --> 00:02:44,352\n是知道知道那你认为要怎么协助协助的部分我想分国外跟国内国外的部分在参加国际的活动我想我们开拓国际的市场有这样的一个计划就是我们台湾Select这样的一套的计划第二个\n\n9\n00:02:45,172 --> 00:03:03,884\n補助這個企業去參加國際的這個展覽第三個協助工協會辦理貿易推廣的活動在海外推廣貿易推廣這個分散市場就是要我們要協助產業要向外去找訂單嘛對不對那所以呢我們要協助那我知道呢以目前在產業界\n\n10\n00:03:06,286 --> 00:03:11,449\n有發生一件事情我也希望我們經濟部可以的來協助我們願意遵守國際規範叫做瓦森納協定部長應該知道吧知道這個總共清單有356頁這裡面在講軍商兩用的貨品或者是技術出口的管制清單\n\n11\n00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:40,194\n那因為呢中部有很多的零組件的製造商那不管了他的軍商糧用貨品裡面不管是系統或者是技術或者是零組件那是不是在這個356頁裡面的清單裡面\n\n12\n00:03:43,237 --> 00:03:53,704\n第一個我碰到的是產業界的聲音是他不太清楚那為什麼不太清楚因為呢很多都是報關的業務那報關的業務呢我請教過國貿署也請教過財政部關務署所以你們都有在宣導但是我們常常碰到一個問題是什麼遵守國際規範我們願意我們願意接受管控但是你要讓我清楚遊戲規則而且希望有效率的來協助為什麼呢來下一頁\n\n13\n00:04:10,914 --> 00:04:16,859\n我們要求我們的產業要拓展市場要拓展市場就要尋求很多國家的一個訂單但是呢政府要幫忙簡化行政啊包括金流的程序要加快台灣廠商國外市場裡面我們在這個瓦瑟納協定裡面有十多個高風險的國家\n\n14\n00:04:30,431 --> 00:04:52,043\n這十多個高風險的國家如果我台商要去台灣的廠商要去拓展市場我願意接受國際規範但是呢當他在申請經濟部貿易署產發署相關的一個審認這個零組件到底是不是在瓦斯納協議裡面的規範清單裡面這個認定第一個我希望能夠快\n\n15\n00:04:53,284 --> 00:05:06,850\n這個是行政程序的簡化跟效率第二個我也希望財政部、關務署也希望經濟部跟財政部講關務署在這方面橫向的聯繫程序也要快再來為什麼會說廠商會complain\n\n16\n00:05:08,611 --> 00:05:12,416\n過去我的經驗接受的程序是這樣子的流程通常要一個多月到兩個月而這個訂單啊對不起這個訂單下單了之後啊這個訂金啊我廠商要準備材料我要準備什麼什麼我這個訂金被押在這個銀行金融機構\n\n17\n00:05:26,254 --> 00:05:28,496\n我覺得這個政府應該要協助第一個協助廠商有效的資訊第二個強化部會的橫向聯繫第三個加速國際合作的訊息透明啦有效率啦就是這兩件事而已啦部長你支持嗎完全支持\n\n18\n00:05:51,776 --> 00:06:07,029\n那可不可以跟財政部跟金管會我們是不是可以跨部會的來聯繫把這個流程把它定的更有效率一點更簡化一點可以嗎是我們會這樣子做而且我們跟這個海關已經有這個平台今年會做18場的這個宣導\n\n19\n00:06:11,166 --> 00:06:36,764\n那我希望不是只有給報關的相關業務或是進出口工會我認為也要有工協會的幹部代表或者是廠商的代表可以嗎這些都會有都會嘛好不好我最後的最後就希望說部長我們要分上市場我們要提供資源資源要下在對的資源要能夠讓更多的產業對政府有信心對政府有感包括現在我們國外參展的這個補助的經費\n\n20\n00:06:39,285 --> 00:07:01,960\n說真的啦是不如日本韓國跟中國啦那甚至呢有很多廠商會抱怨政府到底在我國際參展的時候政府的角色在哪裡政府的資源在哪裡他感受不到那我希望藉由這一次危機就是轉機我們藉由這一次的特別預算好好的大家一起來協助產業讓這個民生經濟共度難關可以嗎部長是拜託啦好不好我們會這樣做謝謝\n\n21\n00:07:11,012 --> 00:07:12,336\n好謝謝何欣淳\n\n","tsv":"start\tend\ttext\n69\t8702\t那我們中午不休息延長開會時間到這個詢答結束好謝謝蔡昭偉我們請郭部長請部長\n18967\t29193\t委員好 部長好 剛剛聽到你在回答中委員的提問的時候我是善意的提醒我覺得任何的回答要做制度上的改變的時候這個真的要先了解研議\n34396\t49748\t評估那最後有定案那才公開說啦不然像剛剛你就隨口一句然後後來才急著又要說我們考慮考慮我覺得真的建議部長是不是真的要三思而開口說出\n51209\t56753\t我為什麼這麼說 息產地這個問題我們全力支持 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審認標準那個35%的那個\n81089\t83890\t這個%我個人也認為應該提高那至於要提多高我建議啦經濟部真的要好好盤點各個產業裡面到底對於這個息產地的定義這個遊戲規則要定清楚讓我們的各個產業可以有所依循也比較好啦部長你同意嗎謝謝委員\n103655\t109500\t謝謝你那第二個我就要開始來講我昨天也有找我們行政院副院長邀請他到台中跟產業界來座談那其中有一個向下大家非常關心美國高關稅這個政府談判的問題\n118007\t144253\t那副院長也在現場說目前的談判是順利甚至在4月11號就第一次跟美國線上談判所以這個過程順利進行當中那其中我們賴總統有宣示的一個對策包括現在我們要特別預算880億裡面工業的六大面向700億裡面有一個叫做開拓多元市場這個部分部長應該知道吧\n144873\t164352\t是知道知道那你认为要怎么协助协助的部分我想分国外跟国内国外的部分在参加国际的活动我想我们开拓国际的市场有这样的一个计划就是我们台湾Select这样的一套的计划第二个\n165172\t183884\t補助這個企業去參加國際的這個展覽第三個協助工協會辦理貿易推廣的活動在海外推廣貿易推廣這個分散市場就是要我們要協助產業要向外去找訂單嘛對不對那所以呢我們要協助那我知道呢以目前在產業界\n186286\t191449\t有發生一件事情我也希望我們經濟部可以的來協助我們願意遵守國際規範叫做瓦森納協定部長應該知道吧知道這個總共清單有356頁這裡面在講軍商兩用的貨品或者是技術出口的管制清單\n208160\t220194\t那因為呢中部有很多的零組件的製造商那不管了他的軍商糧用貨品裡面不管是系統或者是技術或者是零組件那是不是在這個356頁裡面的清單裡面\n223237\t233704\t第一個我碰到的是產業界的聲音是他不太清楚那為什麼不太清楚因為呢很多都是報關的業務那報關的業務呢我請教過國貿署也請教過財政部關務署所以你們都有在宣導但是我們常常碰到一個問題是什麼遵守國際規範我們願意我們願意接受管控但是你要讓我清楚遊戲規則而且希望有效率的來協助為什麼呢來下一頁\n250914\t256859\t我們要求我們的產業要拓展市場要拓展市場就要尋求很多國家的一個訂單但是呢政府要幫忙簡化行政啊包括金流的程序要加快台灣廠商國外市場裡面我們在這個瓦瑟納協定裡面有十多個高風險的國家\n270431\t292043\t這十多個高風險的國家 如果我台商要去 台灣的廠商要去拓展市場我願意接受國際規範但是呢 當他在申請經濟部 貿易署 產發署相關的一個審認這個零組件到底是不是在瓦斯納協議裡面的規範清單裡面這個認定 第一個我希望能夠快\n293284\t306850\t這個是行政程序的簡化跟效率第二個我也希望財政部、關務署也希望經濟部跟財政部講關務署在這方面橫向的聯繫程序也要快再來為什麼會說廠商會complain\n308611\t312416\t過去我的經驗接受的程序是這樣子的流程通常要一個多月到兩個月而這個訂單啊對不起這個訂單下單了之後啊這個訂金啊我廠商要準備材料我要準備什麼什麼我這個訂金被押在這個銀行金融機構\n326254\t328496\t我覺得這個政府應該要協助第一個協助廠商有效的資訊第二個強化部會的橫向聯繫第三個加速國際合作的訊息透明啦有效率啦就是這兩件事而已啦部長你支持嗎完全支持\n351776\t367029\t那可不可以跟財政部跟金管會我們是不是可以跨部會的來聯繫把這個流程把它定的更有效率一點更簡化一點可以嗎是我們會這樣子做而且我們跟這個海關已經有這個平台今年會做18場的這個宣導\n371166\t396764\t那我希望不是只有給報關的相關業務或是進出口工會我認為也要有工協會的幹部代表或者是廠商的代表可以嗎這些都會有都會嘛好不好我最後的最後就希望說部長我們要分上市場我們要提供資源資源要下在對的資源要能夠讓更多的產業對政府有信心對政府有感包括現在我們國外參展的這個補助的經費\n399285\t421960\t說真的啦是不如日本韓國跟中國啦那甚至呢有很多廠商會抱怨政府到底在我國際參展的時候政府的角色在哪裡政府的資源在哪裡他感受不到那我希望藉由這一次危機就是轉機我們藉由這一次的特別預算好好的大家一起來協助產業讓這個民生經濟共度難關可以嗎部長是拜託啦好不好我們會這樣做謝謝\n431012\t432336\t好謝謝何欣淳\n","txt":"那我們中午不休息延長開會時間到這個詢答結束好謝謝蔡昭偉我們請郭部長請部長\n委員好 部長好 剛剛聽到你在回答中委員的提問的時候我是善意的提醒我覺得任何的回答要做制度上的改變的時候這個真的要先了解研議\n評估那最後有定案那才公開說啦不然像剛剛你就隨口一句然後後來才急著又要說我們考慮考慮我覺得真的建議部長是不是真的要三思而開口說出\n我為什麼這麼說 息產地這個問題我們全力支持 我也曾經跟其他委員開過記者會那這個在對美談判來講是一個非常重要的一個因素那息產地的問題呢 我想有很多不同的產業別 他有不同的一個狀況那我自己個人對於你們現在貿易法向下所授權的關於這個息產地的一個的審查 審認標準那個35%的那個\n這個%我個人也認為應該提高那至於要提多高我建議啦經濟部真的要好好盤點各個產業裡面到底對於這個息產地的定義這個遊戲規則要定清楚讓我們的各個產業可以有所依循也比較好啦部長你同意嗎謝謝委員\n謝謝你那第二個我就要開始來講我昨天也有找我們行政院副院長邀請他到台中跟產業界來座談那其中有一個向下大家非常關心美國高關稅這個政府談判的問題\n那副院長也在現場說目前的談判是順利甚至在4月11號就第一次跟美國線上談判所以這個過程順利進行當中那其中我們賴總統有宣示的一個對策包括現在我們要特別預算880億裡面工業的六大面向700億裡面有一個叫做開拓多元市場這個部分部長應該知道吧\n是知道知道那你认为要怎么协助协助的部分我想分国外跟国内国外的部分在参加国际的活动我想我们开拓国际的市场有这样的一个计划就是我们台湾Select这样的一套的计划第二个\n補助這個企業去參加國際的這個展覽第三個協助工協會辦理貿易推廣的活動在海外推廣貿易推廣這個分散市場就是要我們要協助產業要向外去找訂單嘛對不對那所以呢我們要協助那我知道呢以目前在產業界\n有發生一件事情我也希望我們經濟部可以的來協助我們願意遵守國際規範叫做瓦森納協定部長應該知道吧知道這個總共清單有356頁這裡面在講軍商兩用的貨品或者是技術出口的管制清單\n那因為呢中部有很多的零組件的製造商那不管了他的軍商糧用貨品裡面不管是系統或者是技術或者是零組件那是不是在這個356頁裡面的清單裡面\n第一個我碰到的是產業界的聲音是他不太清楚那為什麼不太清楚因為呢很多都是報關的業務那報關的業務呢我請教過國貿署也請教過財政部關務署所以你們都有在宣導但是我們常常碰到一個問題是什麼遵守國際規範我們願意我們願意接受管控但是你要讓我清楚遊戲規則而且希望有效率的來協助為什麼呢來下一頁\n我們要求我們的產業要拓展市場要拓展市場就要尋求很多國家的一個訂單但是呢政府要幫忙簡化行政啊包括金流的程序要加快台灣廠商國外市場裡面我們在這個瓦瑟納協定裡面有十多個高風險的國家\n這十多個高風險的國家 如果我台商要去 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