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00:01:59,656\n順利30分鐘離開是不會被舉牌的啦但是很不幸的他在北檢受訪的時候在外面受訪的時候時間有點耽擱啦所以待的時間久了一點之外呢他又遇到這個南緯率眾暴力破壞鋸馬這個事情所以蔣萬安市長分別被舉牌兩次警告\n\n7\n00:02:00,701 --> 00:02:18,197\n沒有代表什麼就是一個首都市長一個念法律系的首都市長不遵守法律的一個記號啦在這邊我沒有要求警政署說你現在要辦蔣萬安但是我要強調的是蔣萬安市長其實原本已經跟台北市政府警察局巧合啦\n\n8\n00:02:19,264 --> 00:02:31,204\n一個小時內啊就是我在這個空檔進去不會舉到牌啦但是被攔尾破壞了啦但是被這個時間沒有掌控好破壞了所以署長這邊我要是是要讓你知道這個\n\n9\n00:02:34,454 --> 00:03:04,174\n法院北檢外面它其實這個對集會來講這個不是民主這個叫法制這個叫做破壞法制這個叫做藍白不斷要破壞法制來影響司法把它變成日常這個我們還是要跟國人說明清楚這個是在破壞台灣的法制所以警政署的同仁也非常辛苦當天我想收證的應該也不只台北市警局警政署有沒有派員支援\n\n10\n00:03:04,814 --> 00:03:22,779\n我那天沒有支援那邊純粹由台北市這個調查局來處理好謝謝署長今天還要講這個社會秩序維護法那社會秩序維護法其實我難得跟這個牛許廷為員難得跟召集人有一個共同的共識難得真的\n\n11\n00:03:26,547 --> 00:03:34,834\n針對這個運動票券跟藝文票券還有跟稍法已經有其他的相關的法令已經有規定的我覺得這個可以另外再討論\n\n12\n00:03:36,428 --> 00:04:04,920\n但是針對這個噪音事件其實身處都會區大樓區其實我們說警察同仁最難處理的事情其實也是大樓之間的吵雜樓上樓下這個問題那我再強調一次前年在高雄有一個無姓男子跑去殺了樓上的鄰居的一對父母年輕的父母那這一個無姓男子他被判死刑\n\n13\n00:04:05,976 --> 00:04:34,042\n是在這個憲法判決後是被判死刑是一致死刑所以一直有人在說台灣這個憲法法庭宣告死刑無效這個是假的他這是一個死刑的案例但是這一個裡面警方有沒有更大的空間來處理這個事情當然之前有沒有報案這個我不知道警政署這邊有沒有去調查或是市政府警察局有沒有相關的這些紀錄所以說\n\n14\n00:04:36,516 --> 00:05:00,885\n如果這個案例如果警方可以去因為這個公寓大廈管理條例之外那有這種大樓公寓大廈的這些噪音的爭執的時候那警方可以有更大的權力或者是警方可以及時的來制止這一些問題的話我想這個我會比較傾向說讓警方有更大的空間可以來處理這個事情\n\n15\n00:05:01,479 --> 00:05:30,077\n因為在都會局有非常多的這些大樓裡面的糾紛其實是從這裡造成的那警方去也不是說現行法當然就是可以罰六千但是事後當然有很多的這些包含他身負的管道包含這些會造成很多的這些行政程序的繁瑣等等的這個我都理解但是讓警方出面的時候對於這件事情馬上可以解決或者是有更大的約束力我覺得這可以討論署長\n\n16\n00:05:31,981 --> 00:05:47,717\n對那如果說在法律規範的完整性更完整的話有這些法律的依據那我們警方受理這一個報案之後到場去做處理當然是有更完整的保障這個我認同但是又一方面增加警方的這些壓力\n\n17\n00:05:48,377 --> 00:06:15,697\n那有一些就是說可能牽涉到這些法律有限的剛剛有些人有提到的就是說如果說是屬於特別法的話那未來要更完整的話是不是要在這些專法裡面再來做修正是我覺得很多這種鄰居之間的這些吵鬧你說要等到環保局來錄音來監測這個其實都有困難那增加一些可以趕快嚇止這些糾紛的這些權利我覺得是可以討論的好謝謝\n\n18\n00:06:19,767 --> 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