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00:01:41,187\n那我想現在形式的缺額是目前大概是目前的這個狀況那未來我想就是形式的這個缺額部分我們有幾個面向來做改善第一個就是要再簡化我們\n\n6\n00:01:42,048 --> 00:01:57,181\n非必要的形式的這個業務那第二部分就是要解決目前的這個缺口可能用支援警力來運行警人力的一個缺口那來進度加補這個第一線的這個人力那第三個部分就是我們有對於這個\n\n7\n00:01:58,662 --> 00:02:15,699\n包括警大的各級班或專為警刑警開班的警佐班第三類這個名額我們會再來做提升那另外有兩個面向應該是蠻重要就是在工作上的獎勵不管是在工作的一個鼓勵的部分就是\n\n8\n00:02:16,620 --> 00:02:18,042\n那部長要不要補充\n\n9\n00:02:36,224 --> 00:03:03,771\n我們署長講得非常清楚原則上我們希望能夠從這個簡化非必要的形式勤務先著手然後再來就是增加新進的這個形式的同仁那如果需要警察大學或者是需要考試院來協助的話我們願意一起來努力跨部會加油但是部長跟署長在這邊如果以目前您所答覆的這四項當中第一項在業務上面第二項在\n\n10\n00:03:05,091 --> 00:03:12,914\n人不夠的部分你要有警力來支援這個也會衍生第二個問題那第三個你說從學校我們的名額來增加這非常重要這是長遠的一個規劃跟訓練那最後一項也是很重要的一點你的工作佳績你的待遇所以你研議當中你什麼時候可以研議出來\n\n11\n00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:47,500\n你要的確把你的方案拿出來因為我們目前所缺的就是這麼多人你的預算裡頭你的缺額就是有將近650位那在這樣的情況下本席要請教第四點你們的研議你的待遇以及你的家籍什麼時候方案可以出來\n\n12\n00:03:50,027 --> 00:04:07,713\n那這個部分我們行政局正在規劃當中那我們其實很早就注意到這個問題那我們會把這個方案規劃出來之後再來做預計什麼時候可以公佈那我想這個部分你很早就知道這個問題而且你們也努力在規劃對你看多久時間可以告訴我們你的方案我看行政局\n\n13\n00:04:18,291 --> 00:04:34,830\n那這個部分可能也要學到我們的其他其他其他其他部分就是如此請教因為這個大家都知道非常的需要啊尤其你是組組單位啊我想是不是在三個月裡面呢我們把這個\n\n14\n00:04:35,931 --> 00:04:47,544\n三個月內你提出研議我們刑警的這個加級的待遇這個跟他的薪資你要提出三個月接下來最後一個議題本席請教部長部長\n\n15\n00:04:50,968 --> 00:05:00,633\n我們在112年12月8號修正通過的殯葬管理條例我也感謝總統在我們第35條相關條文的修正總統先生是在112年的12月27號總統公佈\n\n16\n00:05:07,897 --> 00:05:26,687\n當時我很感謝我們朝野的委員大家努力的去研討而且很順利的出了委員會那也在12月27號的時候總統來做公佈那相關的配套執法修正草案還沒有完成公告所以他在新生的這個日期我們尊重行政部門\n\n17\n00:05:27,648 --> 00:05:32,189\n那我也歡喜的聽到你們預計內政部預計要在下個月下旬要開始來做相關條例的執法的修正的配套的新法的一個說明會那現在業者除了感恩之外最重要的這個開始的時間點\n\n18\n00:05:46,914 --> 00:05:52,377\n據聞是有說要7月1號要請業者開始來執行之但是我們接到陳請朝野的委員都接到陳請也就是希望能夠延到9月1號不要在7月1號因為在你5月下中旬或者下旬開始做各地的一個說明會那說明之後或許已經落點\n\n19\n00:06:11,067 --> 00:06:14,510\n這個6月了那7月1號倉促要上路他們不管在他的契約以及他的這個電腦化的這個相關配套都必須業者希望要有一點時間那現在業者是希望他也全力的配合是希望能夠在9月1號正式上路所以我也將業者的這個心聲給部長來了解第一個\n\n20\n00:06:37,011 --> 00:06:46,459\n我希望我們的法好不容易朝野委員這麼努力而且詳實的討論也經過總統的公告那也謝謝內政部你們在這一段時間一直在研擬這個執法那終於在五月下旬開始要到各地去做說明因為本市認為這個業者他們在執行方面是必須希望要能夠落實到\n\n21\n00:07:02,973 --> 00:07:12,739\n所以這個時間的緩衝本行認為是必要的那我也希望第二個希望在整個書名會當中也希望內政部也聆聽了業者的聲音再做一個整體性的一個整合那也就是希望我們要法治化讓業者也有所本而且做的可以達到一個效能\n\n22\n00:07:27,429 --> 00:07:34,678\n所以建議在整個說明會之後凝聚大家的意見也希望將這個執行的時期是不是讓業者有一個緩衝跟設備以上建言請教部長\n\n23\n00:07:42,809 --> 00:08:04,648\n我們來檢討委員都了解我們跟地方政府要開這個說明會分別在5月13、16、21嘛業者也有表達心聲但是我要跟委員報告我們從112年到現在已經超過一年四個月所以他們除非是真正碰到很大的困擾\n\n24\n00:08:05,148 --> 00:08:11,991\n其實我們是每次延三個月以後就會有人說再延三個月所以我們常常聽到這樣的聲音那我想說我們是不是把這三場的這個分區說明會再說明清楚包括我們的這個內政部處理的中理司他們在處理的過程當中會碰到什麼樣子的一個困擾那到時候再跟委員來做這個總結\n\n25\n00:08:27,056 --> 00:08:29,718\n謝謝部長的回答我們總是希望當時因為沒有院版這個法案我超感動的當時行政院內政部的代表來大家也一起好好的在研討所以這個法案當中有很多也就是朝野\n\n26\n00:08:44,648 --> 00:08:50,930\n以及行政院所提出的這個見解大家綜合出來所以可以說是一個非常成功的一個推動的法案那我們也希望推動完之後總統公告公布之後我們希望業者可以落實還有地方政府他們能夠有有充足的時間好好的來達到這個效能那我也希望就成都部長剛剛所說的\n\n27\n00:09:08,757 --> 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